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JJ360
21st of May 2011 (Sat), 23:12
So tomorrow I have to take pictures of 2 show dogs and I was wondering if anyone had any tips on taking pictures of dogs. Im pretty new to photography so any help would be appreciate it. Its going to be a cloudy day no sun so from what i hear thats the best time to take pics outside is this true??? I will be using my new Canon 60D and 70-200 2.8 is is. Also I keep hearing people talk about White balance not sure what it does or in what situation I would be using it. well all help will be appreciated Thanks

kuma1212
22nd of May 2011 (Sun), 01:56
What type of pictures do you need to take? Are they for a fun, pet portrait style? Or more of a documentation of the show dogs size, proportions, etc? Will they be still or running around? A cloudy day can be ok for shooting. The clouds can act like a giant diffuser for the sun and eliminate harsh lighting. Since you'll be outside, your 60D will likely do a decent job of white balance if you put it to auto white balance. If you shoot in RAW, you can always adjust the balance later by yourself.

I would bring your 50 also in case you want some shots with shallower depth of field. It's harder to get the focus right on if you're not used to it though, so don't be afraid to take a lot of frames. If the dogs are moving a lot, go to AI servo focus mode, and that can help.

Show dogs are usually pretty well behaved and that makes your job tons easier. Have fun!!

bayberry
23rd of May 2011 (Mon), 10:11
Yes clouds are nice to diffuse the light, but I like to add my own lighting to give the image some life. Your lens choice is good, especially when you do shots where the dog(s) are facing you or partially facing you. You want to be well away from the dog in this case and zoom in to where you want to be or you will have a distorted pooch with the huge head and small body. Be sure to get down on the ground and shoot either up or directly across, never look down on your subject. Also make sure you have an assistant to bait the dogs and get their attention and ears up for the shot. And backgrounds backgrounds backgrounds. No matter how well you adjust your settings and how great the dog looks in the picture, it's still not a good picture if it doesn't have a pleasing background.

Todd Lambert
23rd of May 2011 (Mon), 10:22
Use a reflector and put the dog in direct light. Then use the reflector to get light into the nooks and crannies of it's face. Obviously, don't shoot at noon... somewhere in the late afternoon works much better.

These were shot exactly as I described above. I used a simple silver reflector (use can use big sheets of white cardboard or foamboard, if you don't have a reflector.) It was partly cloudy, so I shot them mostly under trees where the sun was coming through nearby... used the reflector to re-purpose the light and get their faces to show up.

http://lambertphotography.com/forums/dogs/boxers-4.jpg

http://lambertphotography.com/forums/dogs/boxers-2.jpg

http://lambertphotography.com/forums/dogs/boxers-5.jpg

http://lambertphotography.com/forums/dogs/boxers-1.jpg

JJ360
23rd of May 2011 (Mon), 13:19
Great pics todd what lens did you use?

Todd Lambert
23rd of May 2011 (Mon), 13:26
Thanks! These were shot with the 85L mostly.

Get or make yourself a reflector, it will work wonders if you have any sun at all. Of course a flash will work too, but it's harder to get right and in my opinion, can look fake in a lot of instances. Natural light is always best, in my opinion.

Oh, and shoot your images in RAW format. This will allow you much more latitude in lifting underexposure and dealing with overexposure. You'll also be able change your white balance after the fact, so then you don't need to worry about it during the shoot.

bayberry
23rd of May 2011 (Mon), 13:39
Right at the dogs eye level, very strongly back-lit by harsh late afternoon sun, considerable amount of flash power in softbox to overcome ambient light and get pleasing balance, fairly long focal length to avoid distortion:

Nikon D700
lens 80-200 2.8
SB-900 in lastolite ezbox camera right
ISO 200, f/4.5, 1/400, focal length 145mm
http://www.juliewardphotography.com/Dogs/Debi-2-19-11/05/1193116203_JKKcJ-XL-3.jpg

Taken in the shade with just a reflector camera right to add a little fill and balance
ISO 200, f/5, 1/250, focal length 155mm
http://www.juliewardphotography.com/Dogs/Debi-2-19-11/32/1193137818_t9KzJ-XL-3.jpg

In the full direct sun with a scrim to diffuse the light on his face
ISO 200, f/5.6, 1/200, focal length 185mm
http://www.juliewardphotography.com/Dogs/Debi-2-19-11/25/1193130553_duR5A-XL-3.jpg

JJ360
23rd of May 2011 (Mon), 13:42
That lens takes awesome pics... So where do you place the reflector?? I'm new to photography so sorry if I ask dumb questions

JJ360
23rd of May 2011 (Mon), 13:44
Wow bayberry now that's the type of pictures I want to take

Todd Lambert
23rd of May 2011 (Mon), 13:46
No such things as dumb questions!

You basically place the reflector wherever you need to, in order to bounce the sunlight onto the dog. Think of it as using a mirror as a spotlight. You aim the reflector towards the bright light, and then tilt it in order to make it bounce onto your subject. It takes a bit of practice and with moving light, it can be a bit of a task, but generally it's easy enough to do that I've let complete novices assist and do the lighting. Once they "get" the concept of where the light is bouncing, it's really easy and they have no problems with it.

JJ360
23rd of May 2011 (Mon), 14:19
The dogs don't get distracted by the reflector? Also what types of things do you to get their attention?? Todd look at my other post titled what did I do wrong my pics look like crap LOL I posted some pics of the dog.

Bayberry did you do anything to the pics in Photoshop or lightroom??? I love them

Todd Lambert
23rd of May 2011 (Mon), 14:31
I actually saw your other post. It looked like you simply had too slow of a shutter speed. For a long lens, you need to be at least 125/sec and with dogs, it's best to be at least 1/200 sec.

The dogs will be distracted by the reflector, yes. But, they'll be distracted by popping flashes too. At least with a reflector, they're not as intimidated as with a Flash. It's slow and constant... so once they're used to it being there.. they're fine. Some dogs never get used to a Flash (or people for that matter!)

kuma1212
23rd of May 2011 (Mon), 14:35
Beautiful pics Bayberry!

bayberry
23rd of May 2011 (Mon), 14:53
The dogs don't get distracted by the reflector? Also what types of things do you to get their attention?? Todd look at my other post titled what did I do wrong my pics look like crap LOL I posted some pics of the dog.

Bayberry did you do anything to the pics in Photoshop or lightroom??? I love them

No, I have never had a dog be distracted by a reflector or flash. And to get their attention the handler uses food and/or toys. I also will make ridiculous noises if I want them to look directly at me with an engaging expression. Both of the dogs in the photos above are puppies and even they weren't distracted. People freak out about what they think flash might do much worse than the actual animals do.

And yes, I process my raw files using Capture NX2 mostly and some in Photoshop CS5. I try to get each image exactly as I picture it in my mind and do as little as possible in post.

JJ360
23rd of May 2011 (Mon), 21:37
Do you guys use the center focus point or toggle from focus point to focus point?

Todd Lambert
23rd of May 2011 (Mon), 21:40
I typically use the point nearest my desired object.

bayberry
23rd of May 2011 (Mon), 21:57
Do you guys use the center focus point or toggle from focus point to focus point?

I always use the center as it's the most sensitive. I set the focus where I want it then recompose my shot as needed.

JJ360
23rd of May 2011 (Mon), 22:54
Thank you

Jose72388
25th of May 2011 (Wed), 19:44
You guys must own very tame obedient dogs....because I know for sure the best tip for my dog is obviously to have a bag full of tasty treats.. so she obeys my every command

FreeSoul1987
13th of December 2012 (Thu), 14:17
You guys must own very tame obedient dogs....because I know for sure the best tip for my dog is obviously to have a bag full of tasty treats.. so she obeys my every command

I have to ask, with those... Whippets (I think) it looks like there was a leash around it's neck. Did you have to photoshop the leashes out Bayberry?

bayberry
17th of December 2012 (Mon), 23:14
I have to ask, with those... Whippets (I think) it looks like there was a leash around it's neck. Did you have to photoshop the leashes out Bayberry?

Yes. the leads are removed in post. These are show dogs and to get the proper carriage and clean lines required for most breeds they have to have a lead right up under their jawline to tighten the skin there. Show leads are quite thin though, not like a regular lead, so it's a breeze getting rid of them in post.

Here are some more show dog portraits and the last one a candid:

For this one I was laying flat on my stomach with the camera as low as I could hold it to the ground to get the angle I wanted. (in freezing temperatures on hard, frigid cement I might add LOL)
http://www.juliewardphotography.com/photos/i-H2RqxPC/0/XL/i-H2RqxPC-XL.jpg

Again, laying flat on my stomach, this time in the wet road though and holding up traffic briefly in between shots:
http://www.juliewardphotography.com/Dogs/Dog-Shows/Rose-City-Cluster-January-2012/i-fhK9PFK/0/XL/DSC_0118-XL.jpg

I think if I remember right this one I was crouched/sitting on the edge of the curb because I was starting to get nervous I was going to be run over.
http://www.juliewardphotography.com/Dogs/Published-Work/i-kQ3Tm8v/0/XL/oliver%20ad-XL.jpg

Sitting on the floor at the edge of the show ring:
http://www.juliewardphotography.com/Dogs/Published-Work/i-pdwCjVN/1/XL/fifi%20ad-XL.jpg

Again, be the same height or lower than the dog. To add even more of a presence to your subject get really low and shoot slightly up at them.

Astrelis
18th of December 2012 (Tue), 06:17
Yes. the leads are removed in post. These are show dogs and to get the proper carriage and clean lines required for most breeds they have to have a lead right up under their jawline to tighten the skin there. Show leads are quite thin though, not like a regular lead, so it's a breeze getting rid of them in post.

Here are some more show dog portraits and the last one a candid:

For this one I was laying flat on my stomach with the camera as low as I could hold it to the ground to get the angle I wanted. (in freezing temperatures on hard, frigid cement I might add LOL)

Again, laying flat on my stomach, this time in the wet road though and holding up traffic briefly in between shots:

I think if I remember right this one I was crouched/sitting on the edge of the curb because I was starting to get nervous I was going to be run over.

Again, be the same height or lower than the dog. To add even more of a presence to your subject get really low and shoot slightly up at them.


I LOVE your work!!! It must be cool getting to meet all the 'celebrity' dogs :lol:

Laying on your stomach has to be one of the best ways to shoot dogs! This photo of my girl has to be one of my favs and I was lying on my stomach (I have heaps of others taken at that angle too!)

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8296/7757975512_53111b0cfd.jpg

kady05
18th of December 2012 (Tue), 19:47
Yes. the leads are removed in post. These are show dogs and to get the proper carriage and clean lines required for most breeds they have to have a lead right up under their jawline to tighten the skin there. Show leads are quite thin though, not like a regular lead, so it's a breeze getting rid of them in post.

Here are some more show dog portraits and the last one a candid:

For this one I was laying flat on my stomach with the camera as low as I could hold it to the ground to get the angle I wanted. (in freezing temperatures on hard, frigid cement I might add LOL)


Again, laying flat on my stomach, this time in the wet road though and holding up traffic briefly in between shots:


I think if I remember right this one I was crouched/sitting on the edge of the curb because I was starting to get nervous I was going to be run over.

Sitting on the floor at the edge of the show ring:


Again, be the same height or lower than the dog. To add even more of a presence to your subject get really low and shoot slightly up at them.

Aw you got to take pictures of Fifi! She is just gorgeous.

I seriously love your work, always gorgeous. What lens do you use for your ring shots? That's something I'd like to improve on since I show my dog.

bayberry
18th of December 2012 (Tue), 21:53
Aw you got to take pictures of Fifi! She is just gorgeous.

I seriously love your work, always gorgeous. What lens do you use for your ring shots? That's something I'd like to improve on since I show my dog.

Well, actually I just photograph whoever pays me to photograph them. It's just a bonus when it happens to be one of my breeds.

These were taken with a D700 and an 80-200 2.8. Those are now my back ups, now I'm using a D3s and a 70-200 2.8.

kady05
19th of December 2012 (Wed), 08:16
Well, actually I just photograph whoever pays me to photograph them. It's just a bonus when it happens to be one of my breeds.

These were taken with a D700 and an 80-200 2.8. Those are now my back ups, now I'm using a D3s and a 70-200 2.8.

I love Dobe's, two of my trainer have them, gorgeous dogs. Fifi is something else!

I debate all the time about selling my f/4 version of the 70-200 to get the f/2.8 version.. some day I'll probably take the plunge and do it!

bayberry
19th of December 2012 (Wed), 12:48
I love Dobe's, two of my trainer have them, gorgeous dogs. Fifi is something else!

I debate all the time about selling my f/4 version of the 70-200 to get the f/2.8 version.. some day I'll probably take the plunge and do it!

I have owned dobermans for 40 years now, never been without one. I currently have two (one is a half brother to Fifi).

lovemypups
28th of December 2012 (Fri), 22:11
These are simply beautiful!!!!!!

tdierikx
31st of December 2012 (Mon), 01:41
One of my jobs as a rescue volunteer is to help take photos of the dogs available for adoption... and let me tell you, it can be frustrating at times... lol!

My fave tactic is to just sit around in the big exercise yard we use for photo shoots, and wait for the dog to lose interest in jumping all over you for cuddles, and when it goes off to do it's own thing, then is the best time for candid shots that really show off the personality of the dog in question.

It's amazing how much more interest we get in dogs that have nice photos of them doing what dogs do, as opposed to staged photos...

A couple to demonstrate... excuse the non-professional feel to the photos - I'm more of a "happy snapper"...

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/tdierikx/IMG_9951.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/tdierikx/EOS2009_09_14_pups_2006.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/tdierikx/EOS2009_06_26_JakeDex049.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/tdierikx/IMG_0384.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/tdierikx/IMG_2355.jpg

T.

Immaculens
31st of December 2012 (Mon), 01:50
'Like'

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heem6
10th of January 2013 (Thu), 21:03
Thanks for the tip on the reflectors. I have trouble trying to capture a good shot of a certain black lab's face and will try the reflectors. It worked very well in your shots. I also wanted to comment on the background bokeh - beautiful.