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eddiebrown
14th of October 2005 (Fri), 04:18
newbie wants to know the good bad and ugly truth .


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/eddiebrown192/IMG_0022_2.jpg

paulcheah
14th of October 2005 (Fri), 04:57
good = action shot
bad = er... i feel kinda lame saying this since i'm victim to it as well. bad angle?

Nidz
14th of October 2005 (Fri), 05:03
I dunno.. I feel like i just missed seeing the grind.. But still the picture is sharp and in focus so yeah its good.

kenyc
14th of October 2005 (Fri), 06:33
Nice, I'd like to see it in color though. I kind of agree the cropping makes the angle a bit funny, but doesn't bother me that much.

KAC

eddiebrown
14th of October 2005 (Fri), 14:20
thanks very much for the input . just wondering about the angle thing . what angle would have been better ? should i have been lower or more head on to the skater ? color was pretty blah , black pants , grey shirt , grey concrete , didnt do much for me . he wasnt doing a grind though , just kind of riding along near the coping for awhile . thanks again .

kenyc
14th of October 2005 (Fri), 14:59
Eddie, I personally don't have a problem with the angle, more the tight cropping. I'd perfer to see a bit more space on the top and left so it doesn't feel like the skater is crowded into a corner.
:)

KAC

blue_max
14th of October 2005 (Fri), 15:50
I would say this should be a dynamic shot. However, it is a freeze-frame shot. It does not convey movement or excitement.

Getting the guys face in the shot showing terror would do the trick!

My feeling is a much lower angle, much nearer his feet and maybe with is head out of focus - you need to be there in the thick of it.

Maybe easier said than done though.

Graham

eddiebrown
15th of October 2005 (Sat), 03:19
Eddie, I personally don't have a problem with the angle, more the tight cropping. I'd perfer to see a bit more space on the top and left so it doesn't feel like the skater is crowded into a corner.
:)

KAC

thanks for the input , i will try that .

eddiebrown
15th of October 2005 (Sat), 03:33
I would say this should be a dynamic shot. However, it is a freeze-frame shot. It does not convey movement or excitement.


Graham


do you mean using a slower shutter speed ?

getting in the thick of it is definately easier said than done and would bring out the terror on my face ! :lol: i was just trying to stay out of everyone's way and not get a runaway skateboard in the head . guess i will have to get braver next time .... photography - a nice safe hobby .... ummm maybe not ! ;)

blue_max
15th of October 2005 (Sat), 08:45
do you mean using a slower shutter speed ?

getting in the thick of it is definately easier said than done and would bring out the terror on my face ! :lol: i was just trying to stay out of everyone's way and not get a runaway skateboard in the head . guess i will have to get braver next time .... photography - a nice safe hobby .... ummm maybe not ! ;)


Now I see a skateboard in sharp focus and the guy behind taking a tumble - slightly blurred. The skateboard is in the air and about three feet away.

Once you have been compensated for your camera gear via insurance and come out of hospital, you will have happy memories of that shot!

Or at least try to get the skateboard in focus and the rest of him slightly out of focus, from a low angle. You just have to get creative.

I think if they saw you taking pictures, they would probably get involved.

If you get talking to them, then this hobby is really working for you.

Graham

Mike Smith
15th of October 2005 (Sat), 16:06
The guy looks way too relaxed for someone who is horizontal. Of course that's nothing that you can fix as a photographer.

I think it's a pretty good shot, it's just missing something I can't put my finger on. I know it needs more action, but I'm not sure how you'd get it.

Robert_Lay
15th of October 2005 (Sat), 17:04
I agree with both of the posts by Graham. Either pan with the movement putting the apparent motion into the backgrount or let the subject become blurred (a little) by the motion. Either way you communicate the idea that something is happening.

As it is, the "frozen in mid-ar" effect leads to tremendous tension, as was pointed out by Mike Smith. Tension can grab the eye, but then something else has to satisfy the eye.

eddiebrown
17th of October 2005 (Mon), 00:56
thanks for all the input ! how about these ? give it to me straight , i can take it ! :lol: .......


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/eddiebrown192/IMG_0226_1.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/eddiebrown192/IMG_0218_1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/eddiebrown192/IMG_0222_1.jpg

kenyc
17th of October 2005 (Mon), 05:16
First one is cropped a bit tight, but I like all three. Good job.

KAC

blue_max
18th of October 2005 (Tue), 01:18
thanks for all the input ! how about these ? give it to me straight , i can take it ! :lol: .......


Wow, that's sooooo much better. These are great.

Graham

paulcheah
18th of October 2005 (Tue), 02:49
#2 and #3 are GREAT! Awesome!

eddiebrown
18th of October 2005 (Tue), 21:11
thanks guys . #1 was only cropped a little on the left , i definately missed that one . i wasnt expecting them to both go at the same time , and they scared themselves too much to try it again ! not that i blame them though , i have trouble enough on flat ground . :D

Robert_Lay
18th of October 2005 (Tue), 22:29
Excellent panning on the last two shots. In each case the subjects are sharp as a tack.
Those two shots have tremendous appeal and interest - not to mention that the color, composition, action, etc., are right up there with Photograph of the Year. What if you had to pick between the last two?

Can't say exactly why, but I lean toward the next to last image. For some reason I like the background better, and I also like the fact that he stands on his board, but he holds his board up with his right hand. Maybe it's the fact that he looks more "in control" in that shot than in the very last one.

eddiebrown
19th of October 2005 (Wed), 00:02
thanks very much robert !!

i actually would have chosen the last one myself ... because he looks more out of control ! :lol: to each his own as they say .....

hollow
19th of October 2005 (Wed), 01:42
Much better last three.
Interesting first one too but I think a paning on main subject to suggest somehow movement.

Regards

eddiebrown
25th of October 2005 (Tue), 01:27
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/eddiebrown192/IMG_0581_1.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/eddiebrown192/IMG_0582_2.jpg

Tlee05
25th of October 2005 (Tue), 17:49
This may sound scary but could get a really nice shot by trying to get under the board sort of try and make the shot more extreme, im liking image 2 well done.

and your last image theres a blur on the wall at the front what goes over the back wheels what puts me off but nice contrast. And good action shot.

Nidz
25th of October 2005 (Tue), 18:15
I think the second one is the best of the lot.. Good job keeping the focus

eddiebrown
25th of October 2005 (Tue), 21:01
This may sound scary but could get a really nice shot by trying to get under the board sort of try and make the shot more extreme, im liking image 2 well done.

and your last image theres a blur on the wall at the front what goes over the back wheels what puts me off but nice contrast. And good action shot.


thanks for the input tlee and nidz . here is a pic of the 30 foot full pipe that the guy is getting to about 2 oclock (past vertical) . you have to have some serious speed to get that high , so getting in there would be very dangerous for both of us ! and even if i did , how would i get out ?!?! :lol:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/eddiebrown192/IMG_0035_1.jpg

MattyB
26th of October 2005 (Wed), 11:47
i really like the DOF in the second batch you posted up, not a fan of the first one, love the 3rd and 4th.

keep it up :)

Tlee05
26th of October 2005 (Wed), 20:15
hehe oooh ok thats my idea out the wind.

xstrio
27th of October 2005 (Thu), 18:43
youve got a fantasic backdrop to work with too, very lucky