It's Already 2AM: 12th? 14th? Edition... Time to consult your Financial Advisers!!!

[tonyniev]

No went home for nice late lunch at home...Good boy,
we ended a tad too early for drinks.
You think so?

Well, his absence from the forum has cause B&H to lose at least one sale, while Helen's presence and activity here has garnered Adorama lots of my dollars—and, being a parsimonious old git, I don't part with them casually.

B&H and Adorama sell the same stuff at virtually the same prices. What do they have to compete with except service? And ombudsmen are a significant factor in that service, at least to me.

Henry may of may not shoot Nikon, in fact, he may shoot Sony for all I know. Or he may hate photography and shoot nothing at all. I don't care. But he does seem to have a wee bit of a Nikonitude, and about that I care.

did you take a juror out for lunch with the $80 :D

[FJ LOVE]

hahaha I can graphically see Julian in my mind fondling his Ballhead :lol::lol:

Don't paint any pictures please!!:lol:

some how i can see Steven rubbing his new ballhead, for a minute :p

[*sigh*]

Ugh... Well the hardware didn't get shipped until today... late today. So it won't go out until tomorrow... that means I probably won't get it this week. :mad:

[FJ LOVE]

look he rhymes to:lol:

Yup! It Teusday! :)

don't mess with the chicken pad thai ;)

[jdizzle]

I do agree they are awesome :lol: anyway I still have a month or so to decide :D

you at work tonight?
I'm working unfortunately.

[monk3y]

some how i can see Steven rubbing his new ballhead, for a minute :p

unfortunately I don't have a head yet and you guys said I am BALL LESS...sooo there's nothing to rub :( I feel sad hahaha

[jdizzle]

some how i can see Steven rubbing his new ballhead, for a minute :p
That's the first thing he'll do once he gets it in his hands. :lol:;)
don't mess with the chicken pad thai ;)
I always order it with shrimp. Not sure if you like shrimp or not. :)

[FJ LOVE]

Came home to find this box :D

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6145/6003160391_fef9beb835_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/prodigy83/6003160391/)
Garmin Edge 800 Performance Bundle (http://www.flickr.com/photos/prodigy83/6003160391/) by Prodigy83 (http://www.flickr.com/people/prodigy83/), on Flickr

nice looking unit Omar :cool:

[monk3y]

Ugh... Well the hardware didn't get shipped until today... late today. So it won't go out until tomorrow... that means I probably won't get it this week. :mad:
Impatient Americans ;) :lol:

I'm working unfortunately.
hey you are lucky you have work ;) and a good one at that :lol:

[vipergts831]

Hehe! There's a lot of time in your life to get one. ;)

I doubt it will work in landscape mode. Most panos on a specialty head like that is shot in portrait. :)

Yup plus whispers are Mayra might just spring for them for me ;)

Ugh... Well the hardware didn't get shipped until today... late today. So it won't go out until tomorrow... that means I probably won't get it this week. :mad:

Damn Nick that blows! :(

Question which Oakleys did you get? Im really thinking of going to the oakley store saturday and picking up custom Radar Path since they can do them in the stores here in the city.

[jdizzle]

unfortunately I don't have a head yet and you guys said I am BALL LESS...sooo there's nothing to rub :( I feel sad hahaha
Didn't Famous say something like that? :lol:;)

[vipergts831]

nice looking unit Omar :cool:

Thanks Martin. I told them they could keep the pink sunglasses ;)

[jdizzle]

hey you are lucky you have work ;) and a good one at that :lol:
I guess. :)

[*sigh*]

Damn Nick that blows! :(

Question which Oakleys did you get? Im really thinking of going to the oakley store saturday and picking up custom Radar Path since they can do them in the stores here in the city.Custom Radar Path's with G30 lenses.


But yeah it does suck... the day in a half delay in him getting the box out means that I won't get my package until 4 days after it would have come. :( I'm a bit annoyed right now... The deal went through on Thursday, he said Friday was busy and he had to work so he would get it out Monday, and it doesn't go out until late Tuesday :mad:

Ah well.. I did get a good deal...

[jdizzle]

Yup plus whispers are Mayra might just spring for them for me ;)




Nice! Kind of like an engagment ring for men! :cool:

[monk3y]

That's the first thing he'll do once he gets it in his hands. :lol:;)

I always order it with shrimp. Not sure if you like shrimp or not. :)

probably compare it in size to my Balls.... Eyeballs :p

seriously, a shop in Manila (where I got the retro 30) emailed me last night that they are accepting group orders for Markins Ballhead. their price for the Q20 is about $405 at the current conversion rate... but I still have to clarify if its with the lever clamp...if it is then I might get it from him and will probably arrive the same time as my Tripod next week :D

pushing the 16-35mm further :rolleyes: my goodness

[*sigh*]

Well I'll be back later.. I have to go take pictures for work.

[vipergts831]

Custom Radar Path's with G30 lenses.


But yeah it does suck... the day in a half delay in him getting the box out means that I won't get my package until 4 days after it would have come. :( I'm a bit annoyed right now... The deal went through on Thursday, he said Friday was busy and he had to work so he would get it out Monday, and it doesn't go out until late Tuesday :mad:

Ah well.. I did get a good deal...

Funny! I didn't remember which one you had purchased. Great minds think alike ;)

Dude i would ask for some reimbursement of some kind. He took a long time regardless of how good the deal was.

[vipergts831]

Nice! Kind of like an engagment ring for men! :cool:

I thought the PS3 she got me last year was that ;) :lol:

[FJ LOVE]

That's the first thing he'll do once he gets it in his hands. :lol:;)

I always order it with shrimp. Not sure if you like shrimp or not. :)

actually today they asked if i wanted chicken, shrimp or both, i didn't know about the options

got overwhelmed and blurted out chicken instinctively, i'll give it more thought next time :lol:

[vipergts831]

actually today they asked if i wanted chicken, shrimp or both, i didn't know about the options

got overwhelmed and blurted out chicken instinctively, i'll give it more thought next time :lol:

:lol: Should have gone both :) Nice surf and turf pad tai :D

[FJ LOVE]

unfortunately I don't have a head yet and you guys said I am BALL LESS...sooo there's nothing to rub :( I feel sad hahaha

Didn't Famous say something like that? :lol:;)


ooooooh ! :oops:

[FJ LOVE]

Thanks Martin. I told them they could keep the pink sunglasses ;)

rofl :lol:

[monk3y]

actually today they asked if i wanted chicken, shrimp or both, i didn't know about the options

got overwhelmed and blurted out chicken instinctively, i'll give it more thought next time :lol:

poor chicken
http://freesmileyface.net/smiley/msn-emoticons/msn-emoticon-chicken-183.gif

[monk3y]

Didn't Famous say something like that? :lol:;)

ooooooh ! :oops:

he!!! she didn't, she has more balls than me :shock:

[jdizzle]

probably compare it in size to my Balls.... Eyeballs :p

seriously, a shop in Manila (where I got the retro 30) emailed me last night that they are accepting group orders for Markins Ballhead. their price for the Q20 is about $405 at the current conversion rate... but I still have to clarify if its with the lever clamp...if it is then I might get it from him and will probably arrive the same time as my Tripod next week :D

pushing the 16-35mm further :rolleyes: my goodness
Very close to what I paid for the Q20. The 16-35 will come sooner or later. :)

[monk3y]

Very close to what I paid for the Q20. The 16-35 will come sooner or later. :)

yeah and shipping from Manila will only cost me like $5 :lol: :D

so 16-35mm will probably come end of September now :( instead of end of august :mad:

[*sigh*]

Funny! I didn't remember which one you had purchased. Great minds think alike ;)

Dude i would ask for some reimbursement of some kind. He took a long time regardless of how good the deal was.Nah its alright, all the stuff I got was well below market value.

It's not really the wait that irritates me (it was only 2-3 business days), it was that he said he would get it out Monday and I didn't hear anything until an hour ago :(

[jdizzle]

I thought the PS3 she got me last year was that ;) :lol:
Hehe! :)
actually today they asked if i wanted chicken, shrimp or both, i didn't know about the options

got overwhelmed and blurted out chicken instinctively, i'll give it more thought next time :lol:
Something about the flavor with shrimp and pad thai make it's more tasty. :)

[FJ LOVE]

he!!! she didn't, she has more balls than me :shock:

i still liked that video you posted of the Filipino chick yelling at the guy you told me sounds like Famous yelling at you :lol:

[jdizzle]

yeah and shipping from Manila will only cost me like $5 :lol: :D

so 16-35mm will probably come end of September now :( instead of end of august :mad:
That's cheap for shipping. Waiting a little longer isn't going to hurt.

[*sigh*]

Hmm... I have two color checkers tonight... I think I shall use both! :lol:

[FJ LOVE]

Hehe! :)

Something about the flavor with shrimp and pad thai make it's more tasty. :)

i'm on it, man cannot live on chicken all the time, i must be more adventurous :rolleyes:

[monk3y]

i still liked that video you posted of the Filipino chick yelling at the guy you told me sounds like Famous yelling at you :lol:
hahaha... :lol: yeah that chick is awesome...speaking of her let me check her other videos... I totally forgot about her

That's cheap for shipping. Waiting a little longer isn't going to hurt.
yeah exactly and better too since if I have problems with the unit I can ship it back very easily than buying it off ebay :D

[FJ LOVE]

Hmm... I have two color checkers tonight... I think I shall use both! :lol:

stereo color checkers FTW! :cool:

[monk3y]

here ya go Martin :lol: this girl is SICK!! :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/user/ashleyslips

[jdizzle]

here ya go Martin :lol: this girl is SICK!! :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/user/ashleyslips
Is that the same chick with the thick accent? :)

[Jon]

Jon,
Ford are good and even better some classes of vehicles as in trucks F250 or Mustangs than Volvo...to be sure some Gitzo's are better but at additional cost compared to Manfrottos.Yeah. And how many Ford semis are there on the road vs. Volvos? I drive a 17 YO Volvo wagon that's cherry. Never could say that about even 8 year old Fords. Point is, a Lexus is a Toyota with a different badge; like a Pontiac is a Chevy with a different badge. Gitzos aren't clones of Manfrottos.

relax, you still don't have your CPU ;)


Jon, the second link I provided: this one Vertical Rail w/ no end clamp (http://reallyrightstuff.com/ProductDesc.aspx?code=CRD-Rail&type=0&eq=CRD-RAIL-001&desc=CRD-Rail%3a-Vertical-rail-w%2f-on-end-clamp) is described by RRS as follows:


and the other component that I posted: the 192 Precision Plus Package ("Sliding Clamp Package" with Mini-Clamps on MPR-192 Rail. Mini-clamps can be separated and orientation changed 90° to accept quick-release plates with dovetails running left/right and fore/aft,) has clamps that can be adjust from left to right...

except for the rails to be a bit long I don't see why they won't double as an L-bracket if combined together. and yes I am well aware that I still need to get an A-S plate for both :D


yeah there are heavy duty Manfrotto's out there but man are they big hehe


ohh I meant that as a joke :lol:


hmmm... if that's the case I can just buy the head alone and install the clamp


no way am I gonna blowtorch a $400 head haha I don't even have a blowtorch to begin with :lol:


I see, I think I might have been confused, I ordered it on sunday evening here, so its Sunday morning there, but was not picked up until monday evening...Unless and until you see an L bracket in operation, you won't be able to appreciate the difference between that and what you're thinking of. An L bracket all by its self on a ball head will give you what you need those two pieces (at more $US) to do.

[jdizzle]

Gitzos aren't clones of Manfrottos.


I always thought Gitzo was their own manufacturer and distrbiuted by someone else. I can't recall the name of the company. Isn't it Bogen?

[Fricks]

ello guys

[monk3y]

Is that the same chick with the thick accent? :)
yes..the one and only Petra Mahalimuyak (screen name of course hehe)

Yeah. And how many Ford semis are there on the road vs. Volvos? I drive a 17 YO Volvo wagon that's cherry. Never could say that about even 8 year old Fords. Point is, a Lexus is a Toyota with a different badge; like a Pontiac is a Chevy with a different badge. Gitzos aren't clones of Manfrottos.

hey I drive a Ford :oops: and my 5 well 6 year old Pickup truck is still mint ;) and I got myself a second SUV now..yeah Ford again haha


Unless and until you see an L bracket in operation, you won't be able to appreciate the difference between that and what you're thinking of. An L bracket all by its self on a ball head will give you what you need those two pieces (at more $US) to do.

I know that Jon... but I want a Panoramic setup too :D I think its a great compromise...no?

[Jon]

I always thought Gitzo was their own manufacturer and distrbiuted by someone else. I can't recall the name of the company. Isn't it Bogen?
Manfrotto/Bogen - Tony was claiming they were rebadged Manfrottos. Can you say "wrong", boys and girls?

[monk3y]

I always thought Gitzo was their own manufacturer and distrbiuted by someone else. I can't recall the name of the company. Isn't it Bogen?

Vitec owns Gitzo, Manfrotto and Bogen now :D

[monk3y]

Manfrotto/Bogen - Tony was claiming they were rebadged Manfrottos. Can you say "wrong", boys and girls?

on my recent research ;) I say there are no equivalent Manfrotto for Gitzo series 3xxx and 5xxx... so yes you are correct. I think the cost is somewhat justified... again Tony taught us the value of TCO vs. TCA ;)

[jetta-the-hut]

The judge declared a mistrial


This is such horse sh..

[jetta-the-hut]

Came home to find this box :D

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6145/6003160391_fef9beb835_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/prodigy83/6003160391/)
Garmin Edge 800 Performance Bundle (http://www.flickr.com/photos/prodigy83/6003160391/) by Prodigy83 (http://www.flickr.com/people/prodigy83/), on Flickr

Nice Omar

[vipergts831]

stereo color checkers FTW! :cool:

I thought you were going to say send one to Omar :lol: You're getting soft on me Martin ;)

[Fricks]

on my recent research ;) I say there are no equivalent Manfrotto for Gitzo series 3xxx and 5xxx... so yes you are correct. I think the cost is somewhat justified... again Tony taught us the value of TCO vs. TCA ;)

When i went to Sammys i was comparing the manfrotto to the gitzo there is a huge difference but is still a nice tripod

[FJ LOVE]

here ya go Martin :lol: this girl is SICK!! :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/user/ashleyslips

Is that the same chick with the thick accent? :)


that's the one , JD you called it , high maintenance :lol:

[FJ LOVE]

yes..the one and only Petra Mahalimuyak (screen name of course hehe)



Steven when i visit you we'll go find her so i can shoot her :D

[FJ LOVE]

ello guys

hey :p

[Fricks]

hey :p

:p:p

[vipergts831]

Nice Omar

Thanks Man. Just finished installing the cadence sensor. A little picky but its set up now. I have the bontranger speedtrap which goes right into the fork of my bike to give me the speed reading like this:

http://media.bontrager.com/images/features/200909_node/sensors/speedtrap.jpg

Now im just charging up the edge 800. Probably wont be able to test it until saturday though. Packed next three days.

[FJ LOVE]

Manfrotto/Bogen - Tony was claiming they were rebadged Manfrottos. Can you say "wrong", boys and girls?

Jon i think Tony was merely making a comparison that gitzo was the high end version and manfrotto the no frills version :lol:

[vipergts831]

Jon i think Tony was merely making a comparison that gitzo was the high end version and manfrotto the no frills version :lol:

That is how i took it as well :lol:

[FJ LOVE]

:p:p

what's up Jake :)

[Jon]

Jon i think Tony was merely making a comparison that gitzo was the high end version and manfrotto the no frills version :lol:

Well, the analogy was ill-chosen, then. Toyota/Lexus is a few frills added; the Manfrotto and Gitzo lines are totally different.

[Fricks]

what's up Jake :)

just got back from workout and f5ing the my ups tracking page:oops::lol:

[SUB1IM388]

Came home to find this box :D

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6145/6003160391_fef9beb835_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/prodigy83/6003160391/)
Garmin Edge 800 Performance Bundle (http://www.flickr.com/photos/prodigy83/6003160391/) by Prodigy83 (http://www.flickr.com/people/prodigy83/), on Flickr

I to want to know how it works for you! Normally i use the GPS on my phone but for some reason its been acting up.... also whats a good computer to buy?

[FJ LOVE]

Well, the analogy was ill-chosen, then. Toyota/Lexus is a few frills added; the Manfrotto and Gitzo lines are totally different.

nice of you to drop in for a visit, finished your holidays :)

[FJ LOVE]

just got back from workout and f5ing the my ups tracking page:oops::lol:

i know it gets exciting waiting for brown, until he doesn't show up and your tracking says he came and went like what happened to me last week :mad:

[FJ LOVE]

I to want to know how it works for you! Normally i use the GPS on my phone but for some reason its been acting up.... also whats a good computer to buy?

hi Danny :)

[tonyniev]

I always thought Gitzo was their own manufacturer and distrbiuted by someone else. I can't recall the name of the company. Isn't it Bogen?

Manfrotto and Gitzo are both based out of Italy, They all belong to the same group, Vitec group. Manfrotto distributes Gitzo...like a Lexus to a Toyota. Gitzo is the more expensive brands, models, products vs a cheaper Mafrotto's
A Lexus has better parts, features than a regular Toyota, same is true withGitzo's to Manfrottos, but when you belong to the same group, product synergy, or "cloning" in some ways happen...look at MB RS model which are based on the Chrysler Pacifica, this was When Daimler owned Chrysler, in some ways it works for better products, sure Gitzo carbon conposites may be extremely light and if they own some propritary techniques this will flow into Manfrottos.
As I said, Manfrottos models are good enough for me, for richer folks Gitzo's are for them
For Steven who is in Cebu, yes buying the better model once offers a better TCO in the longterm because of difficulty, cost to ship than geeting first and resell a lower priced Manfrotto would cst mre in the longer term.

[Fricks]

i know it gets exciting waiting for brown, until he doesn't show up and your tracking says he came and went like what happened to me last week :mad:

ya probably luckily the ups place is like 10 min form my house so if the require a signature then we can just go pick it up at night. I hope they just leave it at the door tho.

[Jon]

nice of you to drop in for a visit, finished your holidays :)

Brief intrusion of the job into reality. Only 388 days more to endure . . .

[Fricks]

Brief intrusion of the job into reality. Only 388 days more to endure . . .

only 1 more year!

[Jon]

. . . and 3 weeks (one of which, at least, will be in paradise).

[Fricks]

. . . and 3 weeks (one of which, at least, will be in paradise).

nice:cool: Going to hawaii?

[monk3y]

When i went to Sammys i was comparing the manfrotto to the gitzo there is a huge difference but is still a nice tripod
I have already seen the Manfrotto 055xprob and the 190cxpro3 I think... and they are fine pieces IMHO, the weight capacity and specs are what's putting me off them..

Steven when i visit you we'll go find her so i can shoot her :D
I think she's in Vegas Martin... not sure

Manfrotto and Gitzo are both based out of Italy, They all belong to the same group, Vitec group. Manfrotto distributes Gitzo...like a Lexus to a Toyota. Gitzo is the more expensive brands, models, products vs a cheaper Mafrotto's
A Lexus has better parts, features than a regular Toyota, same is true withGitzo's to Manfrottos, but when you belong to the same group, product synergy, or "cloning" in some ways happen...look at MB RS model which are based on the Chrysler Pacifica, this was When Daimler owned Chrysler, in some ways it works for better products, sure Gitzo carbon conposites may be extremely light and if they own some propritary techniques this will flow into Manfrottos.
As I said, Manfrottos models are good enough for me, for richer folks Gitzo's are for them
For Steven who is in Cebu, yes buying the better model once offers a better TCO in the longterm because of difficulty, cost to ship than geeting first and resell a lower priced Manfrotto would cst mre in the longer term.
I see my decision made sense ;) :D

. . . and 3 weeks (one of which, at least, will be in paradise).
I would love to go to Africa with Condyk... did you ever go with him there? I see a few Mods that have gone with him. I am not even aware what you usually shoot though :oops:

[FJ LOVE]

. . . and 3 weeks (one of which, at least, will be in paradise).

nice:cool: Going to hawaii?

nope coming to Canada ;)

[Fricks]

nope coming to Canada ;)

He said paradise ;):lol::lol:


My markins is coming from richmond thats close to our place up there.

[Jon]

nice:cool: Going to hawaii?

nope coming to Canada ;)

Both wrong. Although Nova Scotia wouldn't be a bad second or third choice.

[monk3y]

nope coming to Canada ;)

He said paradise ;):lol::lol:


My markins is coming from richmond thats close to our place up there.

Paradise is where I am at... I doubt Jon will be coming here :lol:

[Fricks]

Paradise is where I am at... I doubt Jon will be coming here :lol:

when i get older i want to travel some of the islands there:cool:

[monk3y]

when i get older i want to travel some of the islands there:cool:

sure just PM me or 500px or flickr or whatever and I'll tour you around the country :lol: of course you have to pay for all the expenses ;) :p :lol:

[Fricks]

sure just PM me or 500px or flickr or whatever and I'll tour you around the country :lol: of course you have to pay for all the expenses ;) :p :lol:

Haha I want to do something like that when i move out as like a get away with me and my camera:lol::lol:

[Harm]

Paradise...\
Ye Olde England
Great Barrier Reef
Maldives
Seychelles
Bora Bora Islands

[Fricks]

Paradise...\
Ye Olde England
Great Barrier Reef
Maldives
Seychelles
Bora Bora Islands

going there next summer along with australia :D

[Harm]

Funny, Steven, I was doing research for a project in Cepu, Indonesia....

I kept thinking Cebu, Phillipines!

[Harm]

going there next summer along with australia :D

pipe dream, or reality?

[Fricks]

pipe dream, or reality?

No for real.

[Jon]

Paradise is where I am at... I doubt Jon will be coming here :lol:
Nope. Anywhere the mean daily temp. gets above 77 F is out of the running.

[monk3y]

Haha I want to do something like that when i move out as like a get away with me and my camera:lol::lol:

Paradise...\
Ye Olde England
Great Barrier Reef
Maldives
Seychelles
Bora Bora Islands

these three are great... :lol: there's actually a lot out there, its money and time that we don't have :(

[Fricks]

Nope. Anywhere the mean daily temp. gets above 77 F is out of the running.

Maybe you should try Antarctica?

[Harm]

Nope. Anywhere the mean daily temp. gets above 77 F is out of the running.

Tiksi, Russia?

[jdizzle]

Manfrotto/Bogen - Tony was claiming they were rebadged Manfrottos. Can you say "wrong", boys and girls?
That I have to agree with.

[monk3y]

Funny, Steven, I was doing research for a project in Cepu, Indonesia....

I kept thinking Cebu, Phillipines!
hehe yeah you mentioned that a while ago...I doubt you will be doing any project research here as there are currently no development of any kind for any energy generation here...

Nope. Anywhere the mean daily temp. gets above 77 F is out of the running.
ohhh.... you hate the tropics then? :(

I really don't like to travel to exotic places right now, I wanna be good at photography first before I go to places that I know would be difficult to go back to :lol:

[jdizzle]

on my recent research ;) I say there are no equivalent Manfrotto for Gitzo series 3xxx and 5xxx... so yes you are correct. I think the cost is somewhat justified... again Tony taught us the value of TCO vs. TCA ;)
There's nothing wrong with Bogen/Manfrotto quality but, as you said the cost is justifiable with Gitzo.

[jdizzle]

that's the one , JD you called it , high maintenance :lol:
Ah yes! I remember now. ;)

[Jon]

Maybe you should try Antarctica?It's on the list. Girl I grew up with settled on Baffin Island.

Tiksi, Russia?What have they got beyond the temp?

hehe yeah you mentioned that a while ago...I doubt you will be doing any project research here as there are currently no development of any kind for any energy generation here...


ohhh.... you hate the tropics then? :(

I really don't like to travel to exotic places right now, I wanna be good at photography first before I go to places that I know would be difficult to go back to :lol:So head west a couple of hours - Wool's too far South. Asheville gets hot. Banner Elk stays reasonable.

[monk3y]

There's nothing wrong with Bogen/Manfrotto quality but, as you said the cost is justifiable with Gitzo.

somebody will argue though that with the weight of the current gear we have we really don't need those legs though... but I feel like for tripods, overkill is always a good thing hehe

[jdizzle]

Manfrotto and Gitzo are both based out of Italy, They all belong to the same group, Vitec group. Manfrotto distributes Gitzo...like a Lexus to a Toyota. Gitzo is the more expensive brands, models, products vs a cheaper Mafrotto's
A Lexus has better parts, features than a regular Toyota, same is true withGitzo's to Manfrottos, but when you belong to the same group, product synergy, or "cloning" in some ways happen...look at MB RS model which are based on the Chrysler Pacifica, this was When Daimler owned Chrysler, in some ways it works for better products, sure Gitzo carbon conposites may be extremely light and if they own some propritary techniques this will flow into Manfrottos.
As I said, Manfrottos models are good enough for me, for richer folks Gitzo's are for them
For Steven who is in Cebu, yes buying the better model once offers a better TCO in the longterm because of difficulty, cost to ship than geeting first and resell a lower priced Manfrotto would cst mre in the longer term.
You also have to understand that Gitzo is an ultra light material plus the processs of manufacturing/engineering in the material itself is what you pay for. If you're carrying 20-30 lbs of gear in the bag plus a tripod, it helps in saving weight. CF is best at dampening vibration while aluminum is not. I'm not telling you to buy one but, I'm sold on the way Gitzo does the job. :)

[jetta-the-hut]

It's on the list. Girl I grew up with settled on Baffin Island.

What have they got beyond the temp?

So head west a couple of hours - Wool's too far South. Asheville gets hot. Banner Elk stays reasonable.


dont come here you'll melt!

[jdizzle]

somebody will argue though that with the weight of the current gear we have we really don't need those legs though... but I feel like for tripods, overkill is always a good thing hehe
When I have my Lowepro backpack loaded with camera,filters, lenses, etc., it gets pretty heavy. I barely feel the weight with the Gitzo when it's on there along for the ride. Just my experience. :)

[Harm]

hehe yeah you mentioned that a while ago...I doubt you will be doing any project research here as there are currently no development of any kind for any energy generation here...

Yeah, but petrochemical companies want oil, extract it, crack it, fractional distillate it, etc.. Which means they need power....LOTS of power :D:D:D

[Fricks]

dont come here you'll melt!

This weeks it's suppose to rain but I'm going to Hawaii where it will 90:p

[monk3y]

dont come here you'll melt!

:lol::lol::lol:

[Harm]

What have they got beyond the temp?

trains, planes, ships, snow, snow, snow, snow, snow, snow and more snow....



Did australia last year, wouldn't mind moving there next year. Next juicy trip...Argentina or New Zealand :D

Would love a long break in the Bora-Bora islands.

[SUB1IM388]

hi Danny :)

Hi!!!

[monk3y]

Yeah, but petrochemical companies want oil, extract it, crack it, fractional distillate it, etc.. Which means they need power....LOTS of power :D:D:D

yeah but I am not aware of any Oil reserve here either :lol: I think the only Oil/Gas reserve here that has a probability to become your next project is the disputed Spratly islands :lol:

how I wish the Philippines have oil reserves :rolleyes::lol:

[monk3y]

trains, planes, ships, snow, snow, snow, snow, snow, snow and more snow....



Did australia last year, wouldn't mind moving there next year. Next juicy trip...Argentina or New Zealand :D

Would love a long break in the Bora-Bora islands.

if you wanna spend your money for longer periods at probably the same cost as you'd spend in Bora Bora...come to here and spend a good month or two in locations like Boracay and El Nido Palawan :D

[jdizzle]

My dinner tonite is pesto pasta with shrimp!! Yummy!!

[jetta-the-hut]

This weeks it's suppose to rain but I'm going to Hawaii where it will 90:p


NICE!

trains, planes, ships, snow, snow, snow, snow, snow, snow and more snow....



Did australia last year, wouldn't mind moving there next year. Next juicy trip...Argentina or New Zealand :D

Would love a long break in the Bora-Bora islands.

Got a friend who vacations here for the summer, hes from Melbourn but hes talking about letting me stay at his place in Melbourn for a few weeks next summer,rent free.

[jdizzle]

Hi Aren and Harm!

[Jill-of-all-Trades]

What have they got beyond the temp?


Dark Russian Chocolate :D

I'd go!

[FJ LOVE]

Paradise is where I am at... I doubt Jon will be coming here :lol:

he thought about it, but then realized you would be there :p

[FJ LOVE]

when i get older i want to travel some of the islands there:cool:

sure just PM me or 500px or flickr or whatever and I'll tour you around the country :lol: of course you have to pay for all the expenses ;) :p :lol:

we want diplomatic flags on your SUV while you chauffeur us around ;)

[FJ LOVE]

There's nothing wrong with Bogen/Manfrotto quality but, as you said the cost is justifiable with Gitzo.

plus the box ;)

[Fricks]

we want diplomatic flags on your SUV while you chauffeur us around ;)

Rofl!!! Agreed!

[jdizzle]

plus the box ;)
The box is da sexy!! :)

[monk3y]

he thought about it, but then realized you would be there :p
haha :p actually I am the reason why this place is paradise :p


we want diplomatic flags on your SUV while you chauffeur us around ;)
oh sure... I'll put all the flags if you want :lol:

[Fricks]

haha :p actually I am the reason why this place is paradise :p



oh sure... I'll put all the flags if you want :lol:

1 Canadian 1 American:D

[FJ LOVE]

Dark Russian Chocolate :D

I'd go!

hey Melody have you heard any updates :lol:

[Fricks]

2am meet up at Stevens house!!!

[FJ LOVE]

Rofl!!! Agreed!

make Steven wear a hat too :lol:

[FJ LOVE]

The box is da sexy!! :)

it's a high maintenance box :lol:

[Fricks]

make Steven wear a hat too :lol:

With a suit and tinted glasses. Don't forget the limo and bring drinks lots of them!

[Fricks]

it's a high maintenance box :lol:

I'm going to hang it in my room and dust once a week

[monk3y]

I am currently evaluating how many years am I gonna use the D700 :lol:

if I think I'll be using it for 2-3 years more I would buy the L-bracket :o cheapskate I know :lol:

[monk3y]

1 Canadian 1 American:D
sure!! Flip Flag in the middle of course :p

2am meet up at Stevens house!!!

make Steven wear a hat too :lol:
ohh I'll do whatever you guys want... want me to dress like a drag queen? :lol:

With a suit and tinted glasses. Don't forget the limo and bring drinks lots of them!

there ain't no limo around where I am haha you'll be disappointed

[Fricks]

I am currently evaluating how many years am I gonna use the D700 :lol:

if I think I'll be using it for 2-3 years more I would buy the L-bracket :o cheapskate I know :lol:

I plan to keep my 7D then for my birthday get a 1dsIII or 5dIII/II

[jdizzle]

it's a high maintenance box :lol:
When I first got my 3531s, all I did was caress the box. :lol::lol:;)

[jdizzle]

I am currently evaluating how many years am I gonna use the D700 :lol:

if I think I'll be using it for 2-3 years more I would buy the L-bracket :o cheapskate I know :lol:
I think your camera is rated at 100,000 actuations. So, it should last you a while before you can upgrade. Do you know how many you have?

[Harm]

yeah but I am not aware of any Oil reserve here either :lol: I think the only Oil/Gas reserve here that has a probability to become your next project is the disputed Spratly islands :lol:

Heh, that is what you think :D:D



if you wanna spend your money for longer periods at probably the same cost as you'd spend in Bora Bora...come to here and spend a good month or two in locations like Boracay and El Nido Palawan :D

Yeah, but like you have to take Famous into consideration, I have to take the wife and future Bond in to consideration too.


Got a friend who vacations here for the summer, hes from Melbourn but hes talking about letting me stay at his place in Melbourn for a few weeks next summer,rent free.

Melbourne, is an absolutely fantastic place.

http://harm.smugmug.com/Australia/Melbourne/IMG4675/1134026077_iYTiS-XL.jpg

If you get a chance, just go. Don't think about it :D


Hi Aren and Harm!

Hi Julian.

[jdizzle]

Hey Harm. How many more months for the baby?

[Fricks]

sure!! Flip Flag in the middle of course :p




ohh I'll do whatever you guys want... want me to dress like a drag queen? :lol:



there ain't no limo around where I am haha you'll be disappointed

Well you better order a limo now then

[Harm]

right now, wife is 23 weeks pregnant today.

[vipergts831]

I to want to know how it works for you! Normally i use the GPS on my phone but for some reason its been acting up.... also whats a good computer to buy?

Will let you know Danny. Most all computers do a good job of giving you data like speed and cadence. You really cant go wrong. I know Julian has a good computer which can give you speed information not sure on cadence as i have never asked him.

One thing to be on the look out is to make sure it is ANT+ compatible. This is the wireless communication standard used by wireless sensors.

[jdizzle]

right now, wife is 23 weeks pregnant today.
I see. Seventeen more weeks to go! :)

[monk3y]

I plan to keep my 7D then for my birthday get a 1dsIII or 5dIII/II
hehe I plan to keep it for 3 years at least

When I first got my 3531s, all I did was caress the box. :lol:
:lol: now I am scared to see the box even more hahaha

I think your camera is rated at 100,000 actuations. So, it should last you a while before you can upgrade. Do you know how many you have?
2 months ago I checked and it was like 21,000 something... I am in no hurry to upgrade so I think the L bracket and one of those panoramic plates will be a good choice, just take the hit and enjoy the bracket :D

[jdizzle]

Will let you know Danny. Most all computers do a good job of giving you data like speed and cadence. You really cant go wrong. I know Julian has a good computer which can give you speed information not sure on cadence as i have never asked him.

One thing to be on the look out is to make sure it is ANT+ compatible. This is the wireless communication standard used by wireless sensors.
Mine doesn't have cadence bulit in. I'm fine with distance and time. :)

[jdizzle]

hehe I plan to keep it for 3 years at least


:lol: now I am scared to see the box even more hahaha


2 months ago I checked and it was like 21,000 something... I am in no hurry to upgrade so I think the L bracket and one of those panoramic plates will be a good choice, just take the hit and enjoy the bracket :D
I would. The convenience of an L bracekt is worth the cost. :)

[Harm]

I see. Seventeen more weeks to go! :)

That is what she said (literally so)..due date is just after thanksgiving. If it is born on thanksgiving, at least I have the day off work, and the day after too...bonus :D

Black friday too, I could get something to celebrate...:rolleyes: now hurry the **** up, canon and get the new camera out!

[jdizzle]

That is what she said (literally so)
Is she having any cravings?

[Jill-of-all-Trades]

hey Melody have you heard any updates :lol:

Updates from the FBI? No. It takes them a long time to get to the next step :)

[monk3y]

Heh, that is what you think :D:D
Yeah, but like you have to take Famous into consideration, I have to take the wife and future Bond in to consideration too.
Melbourne, is an absolutely fantastic place.

http://harm.smugmug.com/Australia/Melbourne/IMG4675/1134026077_iYTiS-XL.jpg
Hi Julian.

do you like it better than Sydney? I would love to migrate there if I could find a good job or have my own business :D such a beautiful place

Well you better order a limo now then
ok I'll order 3 :lol:
http://www.derbylimo.co.uk/toylimo.gif

[Harm]

Is she having any cravings?

nothing ridiculously stupid, yet. I am constantly forcing to put her feet up on the sofa and chill out.

[Fricks]

I would. The convenience of an L bracekt is worth the cost. :)

That will be the only thing I will buy between now and christmas I might get filters instead tho

[jetta-the-hut]

Hi Aren and Harm!

whats up- J

[monk3y]

I would. The convenience of an L bracekt is worth the cost. :)

That is what she said (literally so)..due date is just after thanksgiving. If it is born on thanksgiving, at least I have the day off work, and the day after too...bonus :D

Black friday too, I could get something to celebrate...:rolleyes: now hurry the **** up, canon and get the new camera out!


when's black friday? would RRS and B&H have sales on Black friday too? haha

[vipergts831]

Is she having any cravings?

Wanting to smack Harm is just natural and not a craving ;) :lol:

[Harm]

do you like it better than Sydney? I would love to migrate there if I could find a good job or have my own business :D such a beautiful place

No, I loved Sydney. And should I get another offer next year from my guys, we will move.

At least I have the option of:

Sydney
Brisbane
Melbourne
Perth
Adelaide
Wellington (NZ)
Auckland (NZ)

for the kind of work I do :D:D

The big, big, big, mining industry in Australia keeps the power industry afloat down there :D

[vipergts831]

when's black friday? would RRS and B&H have sales on Black friday too? haha

Friday after thanksgiving. Sounds like a good time for them to have a sale but i wouldn't hold my breath.

[jetta-the-hut]

Melbourne would be awesome i'm checking on plane tickets now, so much for those wheels i was talking about Omar.

[Fricks]

do you like it better than Sydney? I would love to migrate there if I could find a good job or have my own business :D such a beautiful place


ok I'll order 3 :lol:
http://www.derbylimo.co.uk/toylimo.gif

Just the black one will do. We don't want to stand out to much.

[Fricks]

when's black friday? would RRS and B&H have sales on Black friday too? haha

I hope so :D

[vipergts831]

Melbourne would be awesome i'm checking on plane tickets now, so much for those wheels i was talking about Omar.

:lol::lol::lol: You gottah do what you gots to do!

[jetta-the-hut]

i actually had a map brought up of Melbourne then went and look at all the little beachs and island off the coast, i'd rather rent a sail boat and just go from island to island & ports for like 2 months. Its just taking a leave of absence from work to do it.

[jdizzle]

That is what she said (literally so)..due date is just after thanksgiving. If it is born on thanksgiving, at least I have the day off work, and the day after too...bonus :D

Black friday too, I could get something to celebrate...:rolleyes: now hurry the **** up, canon and get the new camera out!
It will come. Just be patient. ;)

[vipergts831]

i actually had a map brought up of Melbourne then went and look at all the little beachs and island off the coast, i'd rather rent a sail boat and just go from island to island & ports for like 2 months. Its just taking a leave of absence from work to do it.

Sounds like a good trip :cool: