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Don Ellis
28th of October 2005 (Fri), 01:26
November 11th is Veterans Day in the United States -- chosen to remember the day the armistice was signed in 1919, formally ending World War One -- and although I haven't lived in the U.S. for 20 years, I was reminded of the holiday by a post in DPreview's Canon Talk Forum by Bob Tucker who asked veterans to post their before-and-after photos.

Vietnam was a time to forget for a lot of reasons, and I almost skipped the post out of reflex, but then I thought, why not? For whatever reasons that men and women go to war, they sacrifice something of themselves... innocence, health, sanity, life.

I once heard or read a quote that remains fragmented in my memory but went something like -- "Why do we send our youth to war?" Answer: "Because they'll never go at any other age." Old people tend to send others to war rather than going themselves. Perhaps Veterans Day would be better known as War and Peace Day, so that there is at least a goal within the remembrance.

Here's to the veterans of all wars on all sides -- and to the day all that comes to an end. Hopefully not with a bang.

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Forty years on... almost to the day.
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19 years old
Marine Corps Recruit Depot, San Diego 1965

http://www.kleptography.com/dl/pro1/don_usmc3.jpg

Vietnam: March 1966 - June 1968
Sergeant, 3rd Battalion, 9th Marines

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59 years old
Bath Spa, England, 2005 (11 days ago)

http://www.kleptography.com/dl/pro1/don_bathspa.jpg

I'm at peace, even if the world isn't. :)

Cheers,

Don

P.S. If nothing else, the "before" photos are often good for a laugh (and mine is so much better than my high school yearbook photo). So root around your foot locker and find a photo and show us the way you were.

Wazza
28th of October 2005 (Fri), 05:03
Nice pic Don. Look forward to seeing some more from others.

There's not much for me to share...

BottomBracket
28th of October 2005 (Fri), 06:11
Great thought provoking post, Don. Thanks for sharing.

Don Ellis
29th of October 2005 (Sat), 08:09
Nice pic Don. Look forward to seeing some more from others.
There's not much for me to share...
Hi... thank you... I owe the pic to Leela and her G5. As for sharing, there's always friends, family, neighbours, and old soldiers wandering around town. :) Doesn't have to be you. If you know any veteran, he or she would be flattered.

Cheers,

Don

KaplanMultimedia
29th of October 2005 (Sat), 09:13
Wonderful, though-provoking post Don. Thanks for posting it.

HJMinard
29th of October 2005 (Sat), 11:13
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Don. And thank you for serving. I was born the year you went to MCRD San Diego ... and then I followed you there 20 years later. Semper Fi.

http://www.pbase.com/hjminard/image/51444419.jpg

Edit: Looks like everyone's adding the "me now" shot ... so here's a (relatively recent) snapshot:

http://www.pbase.com/hjminard/image/39914491.jpg

cmM
29th of October 2005 (Sat), 14:57
excellent thread Don! Nice shots, too.

delinian
29th of October 2005 (Sat), 15:44
As an Airman, around '72, at Pearl Harbor, on my way to "the Rock". (Guam)
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Last week in backyard.
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fslshooter
29th of October 2005 (Sat), 17:27
Me in Vietnam in 1969 and at Jackie Robinson Ballpark, Daytona Beach, Florida in 2005.

http://www.ourcubs.com//potn/beforenafter.jpg

skade
29th of October 2005 (Sat), 20:18
Hey these are great! I would love to see some more!

Balliolman
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 05:32
I agree with your sentiments, Don. Furthermore, I think there is something worse than forgetting the sacrifices of those who fought for just causes and that is to ignore the Veterans who are still alive!