View Full Version : Which Filter to get?
fatclay
17th of November 2005 (Thu), 23:44
I am looking to buy a filter for outdoor landscapes in bright sunny conditions.
1) What type of filter?
2) Which brand to buy?
3) How much?
Thanks
Tsmith
17th of November 2005 (Thu), 23:47
1) Circular Polarizer
2) Hoya or B&W - multi coated
3) depends on the size and type
fatclay
17th of November 2005 (Thu), 23:49
77mm. What do you mean by type??
Carzee
17th of November 2005 (Thu), 23:57
And a ND maybe..
Carzee
17th of November 2005 (Thu), 23:58
Type of shooting?
Tsmith
17th of November 2005 (Thu), 23:59
77mm. What do you mean by type??
Well Hoya makes a Super HMC Pro1 and new this year the HOYA Pro1D Digital ... both are pretty much equal but the Digital is a little cheaper. I just bought a Pro1 D 77mm.
Visit this place for all your filter needs: http://www.2filter.com/welcometo.html
and remember non coated filters will cause lens flare.
fatclay
18th of November 2005 (Fri), 00:08
Is this the filter??
Hoya 77mm DMC PRO1 Digital Circular Polarizer Glass Filter @ $195
Carzee
18th of November 2005 (Fri), 00:11
Way over priced methinks - you could get a KSM for that I think.
Try http://www.bwfilter.com for the best available CPLs. And B&H too.
Carzee
18th of November 2005 (Fri), 00:14
Here you go...
http://shop.vendio.com/hkd/item/777028329/index.html
Thats a 77mm Kaesemann for $129 plus ship
http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/hk/hkd/77ksm.jpg
Luckie8
18th of November 2005 (Fri), 00:15
Always go with the German made B+W
Tsmith
18th of November 2005 (Fri), 00:15
Is this the filter??
Hoya 77mm DMC PRO1 Digital Circular Polarizer Glass Filter @ $195
Nope ... put it in your cart to see discounted pricing: $161.22 + FREE shipping
What kinda lens are you putting it on?
Tsmith
18th of November 2005 (Fri), 00:18
does the 77mm Kaesemann have the front filter threads?
Carzee
18th of November 2005 (Fri), 00:25
Just re-checked mine for front threads. They do.
fatclay
18th of November 2005 (Fri), 00:29
Nope ... put it in your cart to see discounted pricing: $161.22 + FREE shipping
What kinda lens are you putting it on?
It will be for a 17-40 f4L, or the sigma 10-20
Tsmith
18th of November 2005 (Fri), 00:36
You for sure want the Hoya Pro1 Digital, Super Pro1 HMC or the B&W listed above. The 10-20 will need a thin filter like these to avoid vignetting.
Tsmith
18th of November 2005 (Fri), 00:43
Here you go...
http://shop.vendio.com/hkd/item/777028329/index.html
Thats a 77mm Kaesemann for $129 plus ship
Odd terms on that site in Hong Kong:
100% Satisfaction Guarantee: Money back guarantee if you do not satisfy with the quality of the item. (Full Refund)
Terms & Conditions: All Sales are final
thats kinda contradicting ... :confused:
Bob_A
18th of November 2005 (Fri), 00:49
Way over priced methinks - you could get a KSM for that I think.
Try http://www.bwfilter.com for the best available CPLs. And B&H too.
The KSM is a nice circ pol, but I would think that for most the B+W MRC would do, and it's about $20 cheaper. For me, my 20D and most of my lenses aren't weather sealed anyway, so I won't be using my equipment in bad weather which I believe is the advantage of the KSM.
Carzee
18th of November 2005 (Fri), 00:55
I did 2 separate buys there I think. They take Paypal. So if nothing arrives, its a chargeback.
fatclay
18th of November 2005 (Fri), 00:59
I see Ebay has the Hoya Pro1 Digital for $ 146.95. This looks to be good price!
fatclay
18th of November 2005 (Fri), 03:52
The Hoya Pro 1 Digital, is it specifically for wide angle lenses?? If so, what filter would you use for 70-200 lense?
Tsmith
18th of November 2005 (Fri), 06:43
The Hoya Pro 1 Digital, is it specifically for wide angle lenses?? If so, what filter would you use for 70-200 lense?
It'll work on all lens type, including the wide angle ones. Generally anything that Canon makes in the zoom line up below say 16mm on a 1.6x sensor doesn't necessarily need a wide angle filter the standard multi coated will work without causing vignetting ... the key here is to make sure its multi coated. The thin or slim filters are more expensive.
heffsarmy
18th of November 2005 (Fri), 09:37
If you want too shoot landscape shots, you should invest in a circular polarizer and ND grad filters, a good brand is singh ray but they are expensive around 100$ each, a good one to start out with would be a 2 stop soft nd grad and add what you need after that, I also use a 3 stop nd hard filter these cover most situations...I did'nt bother with the holder as I hold them in place with my hand...try this link out good explanation there use check out his gallery, some excellent shots.
http://www.mountainlight.com/filters.html
this guys use them too excellent shots.
http://wildphoto.smugmug.com/
Jon
18th of November 2005 (Fri), 09:50
The other type of filter to look at for outdoors is a graduated ND. Don't get a round one of these - get a rectangular one as you can adjust where the transition zone falls for best effect. Best ones out there are from Singh-Ray (http://www.singh-ray.com/grndgrads.html)
fatclay
18th of November 2005 (Fri), 23:06
Now Im confused. I finally got my head around the circular polarizer and now you guys hit me up with a ND filter as well! (I have ordered the Hoya Pro1 Digital)
I will initially be taking desert photos in bright light and sunrise/sunsets. Which of the ND filters from Singh-Ray would you recommend for these conditions. I have read the article for the link provided. It's a good read. But a little lost as to what he recommends?
Tsmith
18th of November 2005 (Fri), 23:27
http://www.fredmiranda.com/article_2/index.html
http://www.gimpguru.org/Tutorials/NDFilter/
fatclay
19th of November 2005 (Sat), 00:37
I have decided on ND 2G SS and ND 3G HS. As shipping rate is fairly expensive $65 to Australia, it would make more sense to add another couple of grad filters to the order. What extra filters would be most useful??
Jon
19th of November 2005 (Sat), 12:28
ND 2 soft and ND 3 hard are what I use, sometimes in combination. Maybe a 3 soft as well? Or some of their non-grads. Have you checked out their examples gallery? Very nice work by name photogs. showing with and without the various filters.
heffsarmy
20th of November 2005 (Sun), 03:41
Fatclay I use the same comnination as Jon and they cover most scenarios as they can be used in combination...to give you and idea of which ones to use look at this blokes pictures and in the description of each he tells you which grad he uses, might give you and idea as to what you want
http://www.photosig.com/go/users/userphotos?id=213645
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