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jd_D60
17th of June 2003 (Tue), 16:53
Well just decided to buy 10D mainly because my D60 needed the sensor cleaning (after 5000+ shots), and my first examples are worse that D60.
Is this common are you happy with your dust (I'm in danger of becomes as clinical as Micheal Jackson) I even declined the opportunity of trying tohe 10d in the shop with a lens for fear of dust and have changed lenses in fairly dust free enviroments

example here

http://www.tenbyeight.co.uk/
see "dust" - albeit a very low res web image
thanks
John

CyberDyneSystems
17th of June 2003 (Tue), 18:34
At first I was terrified of the dust,.. then I got a dust spot on day three,.. now there are several,..

But you know what,.? I don't really let it bother me. It shows up in "Sky" shots only to my eye,. and the clone tool will get rid of it pretty quickly. If it gets so bad that it DOES bother me,.. I'll either get it cleaned by Canon,. or figure how to do it myself.

One thing I have learned though;

Don't use a "blower" !

Don't get the little vacuum that B&H sells for $20.00 either! It is useless!

I may try to make an adapter that will attach the camel hair blower attachmanet to a vacuum cleaner,... :D

I'll keep you posted!

AndyDe
18th of June 2003 (Wed), 16:36
I've got into the habit now of always switching the D10 off before taking the lens off & giving the replacement lens base a blast with my hama jumbo blower before putting it on.

Lesmac
18th of June 2003 (Wed), 17:09
Try this link
http://www.pbase.com/copperhill/ccd_cleaning

I've tried it on my 10D and it works a treat, bit anxious at first, but soon became confident.

CyberDyneSystems
18th of June 2003 (Wed), 20:47
This is awesome! :)

I have been thinking to myself,.

"...what I want is a small squeegee.."

.. but worried that no one was doing it this way,...

Thank you Lesmac!!!! :D

tzrider
19th of June 2003 (Thu), 06:38
Hi there,

Did about 30.000 shot's with both D30
and D60, never had to clean the sensor.

I always switch the camera off and
change the lens as quick as possible.

While moving from D60 to 10D the first
shots can be a bit dissapointing, less
sharp and less saturation. You really
have to pump up your parameters to
get the same results as the D60.
Auto-focus and colours are better
though on the 10D.

Best wishes,

Jeroen

AndyDe
19th of June 2003 (Thu), 11:03
I've already got the pec pads & methonal now to find a plastic knife ;-)
Just a thought. The Canon manual suggests using the ac adaptor....what would happen if there was a power cut while the swab was in the camera ?

Lesmac
19th of June 2003 (Thu), 11:06
I'm not sure about a power out, I use a cut up credit card for my 'plastic knife', it works well, although I had to experiment to get the right size.

AndyDe
19th of June 2003 (Thu), 11:10
Cut up credit card ?
Now there's an idea to clean the camera & curtail my wifes spending ;-)

Lesmac
19th of June 2003 (Thu), 11:12
LOL, I had to cut up my card to curtail my spending, 10D, 28-135 lens, 17-35mm lens....the list goes on

Regards

Les (NE England)

gavinuk
21st of June 2003 (Sat), 16:22
AndyDe wrote:
I've already got the pec pads & methonal now to find a plastic knife ;-)
Just a thought. The Canon manual suggests using the ac adaptor....what would happen if there was a power cut while the swab was in the camera ?

This is why I would never use swabs on the sensor, or insert the blower too far inside the camera when cleaning. If there is a power cut, this would be the same as switching off the camera at the end of the cleaning process. The shutter would close on whatever was inside the camera at the time, and the mirror would try and drop down, this would most probably damage the shutter.

I think this is the reason why Canon can't recommend cleaning the sensor, other than using a blower, this way there should be nothing inside the camera if anything goes wrong, like a power cut.

Roger_Cavanagh
22nd of June 2003 (Sun), 05:26
The 10D, unlike the D30, doesn't have to be connceted to the mains for sensor cleaning mode to operate. So a fully charged battery is safer than the mains coupler.

I used to clean my D30 using bulb settings rather than risk a power cut.

Regards,

hmhm
22nd of June 2003 (Sun), 07:34
My D60 requires AC adapter for sensor cleaning mode, it won't allow you to do it with a battery. I have a UPS on one of my computers, so I plug the AC adapter into that for sensor cleaning.

martcol
22nd of June 2003 (Sun), 07:42
CyberDyneSystems wrote:
But you know what,.? I don't really let it bother me. It shows up in "Sky" shots only to my eye,. and the clone tool will get rid of it pretty quickly. If it gets so bad that it DOES bother me,.. I'll either get it cleaned by Canon,. or figure how to do it myself.

CDS

You're rapidly becoming my 10D Guru! This is good advice. I had dust on my sensor and my first zillion attempts (following all advice except don't do it :D) made it worse and at best all I did was move the dust blotches around.

I sent the camera to Canon, who didn't do a much better job than me. Got it back after 3rd attempt (they've had my camera longer than me!) and it still has three tiny blotches. This is now good enough for me. You can only see them after f22 exposure against a really plain backdrop. and I'm fed up with taking photos of sky now anyway!

For me self cleaning's the way forward and contenting myself with getting it as near as I can to clean. I think at first I was driven by an enourmous sense of disappointment and yes, even guilt. Here I had a wonderful, expensive, piece of kit and I had let it get tainted - bugger!

So, FWIW: Self cleaning's possible with great care but you need to find your place of contentment.

MTPujol
23rd of June 2003 (Mon), 17:43
This is a great solution, dust has plagued me and the swabs you buy at the camera store work but run about $5.00 each.