[[Unofficial Rumor Thread]] (Merge City)

[Alpieagle]

The new model MUST have voice commands.

Nothing beats when you're in a crowd and someone yell, "Shoot NOW", and then you hear the thundering of the shutter sound goes off :D

Should be fun in a crowd of photog's at upcoming events like olympics, world cups or super bowls with all these cams. :D

[GSH]

The new model MUST have voice commands.

Nothing beats when you're in a crowd and someone yell, "Shoot NOW", and then you hear the thundering of the shutter sound goes off :D


Could be interesting at a Whitehouse press conference :lol:

[CyberDyneSystems]

KISS

XXXT!!!

RO1:lol:

Shouldn't that be

XXX

[ijohnson]

Lets do a list with people who will have a heart attack when they realize Canon decided to wait until August to announce their new body. :cool:

EDIT:
Oooops, page 34...

Good idea!

#1: Me

[jporter12]

Heart attack....No......Disappointed...Yes......

Unless it's a BIG improvement, and not much more $$$$, I may buy it, otherwise, I'm looking forward to the market dropping out from under the 20D's while a bunch of people rush to get their new "20D replacement", ikf that's what they release....

[Rumjungle]

No heart attack, but will definately give me direction. Either:

a) new products are great and I rush out like a lemming and buy them, or
b) new products don't do it for me and I go after a 20d or 1dmk2n and some lenses

The amount of funds available for either of these options, however, has yet to be acquired.:p

[amtphoto]

Could be interesting at a Whitehouse press conference :lol:
HAHA, Mr pres would be blinded by all those flashes going off at the same time too:rolleyes: ;)

[.me]

5D dropped another 30 bux today.... interesting... maybe there would be a 5d replacement? :D kidding

[babbo]

i hope Canon read this thread, but i suspect it's too late to change product plans. my wish list:

1) $1600 price point (initially)
2) keep 1.6x crop. i shoot mostly telephoto. 20D has more pixel density than 1Ds Mk II (16MPix/(1.6*1.6) < 8 MP). bump resolution to at least 12MP. if 2Ds has 24MP, then 30D will still have higher density for telephoto with same lens and distance to subject. i'd also be happy with 1.3x or 1.4x crop as a compromise.
3) improve dynamic range and noise - unfortunately this cries out for full-size sensor, but something could probably be done here
4) variable iso with ability to set max iso value
5) larger LCD display and also allow me to zoom in more to check focus
6) ship with split-prism focusing screen so we don't have to buy a Katz Eye screen (but thanks to them for providing it for the 20D)
7) at the same time, improve quality control on AF calibration
8) spot metering

[CyberDyneSystems]

Just leaving this here so we can see who had the frist correct predictions...
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=74105

[ijohnson]

I love this link. The user manual is a great leak. So subtle and mysterious. It got me really excited. If someone photoshop'ed this it is mean and sadistic.

http://www.livingroom.org.au/photolog/reviews/canon/canon_eos_35d.php

Excuse me if I missed this somwhere else in the many many pages. I have been trying to keep up for quite a while however I may have missed it.

YEAH!!! 35D!!

[Steve Parr]

I'd like to see the ISO in the VIEWFINDER. That would be awesome.
Also a bigger viewfinder would be nice.
AND a battery grip that isn't garbage.

The grip for the 20D is garbage?

News to me.

Mine works great...

Steve

[felix21685]

i like this camera the best in canons line up :)

[Rumjungle]

I love this link. The user manual is a great leak. So subtle and mysterious. It got me really excited. If someone photoshop'ed this it is mean and sadistic.

http://www.livingroom.org.au/photolog/reviews/canon/canon_eos_35d.php

Excuse me if I missed this somwhere else in the many many pages. I have been trying to keep up for quite a while however I may have missed it.

YEAH!!! 35D!!
It's been chopped or at least it looks like it. The "35" is brighter than all the other characters. They should have darkened it like this EOS 55D manual:

[dpastern]

From what I know of the 20D and 10D, I'd say:

1. Larger MP -10mp is fine I personally think
2. Much larger viewfinder
3. larger LCD screen
4. ISO displayed in the viewfinder
5. adjustable burst rate
6. deeper buffer (for both raw and jpeg)
7. weatherproofing
8. improved AF system (maybe the same as the eos1d series, but instead of 45 points, make it 25 or so, which would be adequate I think)
9. Drop the AF minimum f ratio to f8 - at the moment all but the 1d series are useless with a long telephoto and TC. This is a MAJOR issue imho
10. Permanent grip would be nice as well.
11. FireWire/iLink/ieee1394 connectivity please.

that's about it!

Dave

[_SBradley_]

It's been chopped or at least it looks like it. The "35" is brighter than all the other characters. They should have darkened it like this EOS 55D manual:

Ah, but now the camera name doesn't match the URL at the bottom. ;)

I can't believe I've finally posted to this thread! :lol:

[In2Photos]

Ah, but now the camera name doesn't match the URL at the bottom. ;)

I can't believe I've finally posted to this thread! :lol:

Well if you couldn't tell by the hundreds of nonsense replies here already, you don't have to have a reply worth anything to post here. And after this post it should be blatently obvious.

[Jon]

i like this camera the best in canons line up :)
Anyone counted how many times this exact picture has showed up in this thread alone? Gotta be one of Pekka's most widely-known images.

[zacker]

This pic looks like its just a "altered" 350D but...
oh yeah, i swiped it off another forum so.... dont shoot the messenger, i know how y'all like rumors of new cams...lol

-zacker-

[Jon]

This pic looks like its just a "altered" 350D but...
oh yeah, i swiped it off another forum so.... dont shoot the messenger, i know how y'all like rumors of new cams...lol

-zacker-
Ho, hum. Another rerun (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=1102531&postcount=176).

[CyberDyneSystems]

Here's the real deal...

http://webbuilder2.asiannet.com/1208/comm/upimage/p_040526_07579.jpg

[Jon]

Hey! Designer colours! Nikon doesn't have those!

[CyberDyneSystems]

The editing platform for it should be upgraded,. Mac and PC alike are not up to the task;

http://www.fluctuat.net/blog/IMG/jpg/andy_warhol_pointe.jpg

[zacker]

lol.... it looks like canon has been pretty busy leaking all these pics out on the net. I hear the new 25D will be out to. and the new version of the 350D / kiss -n- digital will be called the 355D / kiss -n- a h**d job digital...

(now now zacker, that was uncalled for..theyre minors here.)
lol
-zacker-

[I Simonius]

Ah, but now the camera name doesn't match the URL at the bottom. ;)

I can't believe I've finally posted to this thread! :lol:

I refuse to get involved

DOH!
;)

[BTBeilke]

There is someone try to point out that the picture of 35D is fake.

Here is his opinion ... I think he has some point when you consider this 35D's picture as a combination from 20D's body and 5D's hand- and vertical grip.

This may be a fake, but there are definately differences between this "35D" body and the 20D. As for the grip, after all of the problems with the current 20D grip, wouldn't you expect the new camera to use the same grip as the 5D? It would make no sense at all for Canon to have to manufacture a different grip for each DSLR model.

[FlyingPete]

The grip for the 20D is garbage?

News to me.

Mine works great...

Steve

Have a look at the grip for the EOS30 (the film one!), it is considerbally higher quality than the 20D's one, fits the camera much better, no issues with that at all (the grip for the EOS50 needed a small folded piece of paper as a spacer to make it work properly!)

[felix21685]

Anyone counted how many times this exact picture has showed up in this thread alone? Gotta be one of Pekka's most widely-known images.

well sorry, I just found it on some link and don't exactly have the time to read 42 pages of rumors :)

[jlw82]

I have a 35D..will show pictures tomorrow. :)

[Alpieagle]

I have a 35D..will show pictures tomorrow.

Hope you like it. Took me countless hours to design.







:p

[JBF]

Interesting thread over at Canon EU site. follow this link, it has the 35D listed in the URL. Don't know if they refer to the lens, because you cant really see if its a 35mm or not. Looks like a zoom lens to me. Click on the Realplayer file.

http://www.canon.com/technology/d35mm/index.html

[Jon]

Interesting thread over at Canon EU site. follow this link, it has the 35D listed in the URL. Don't know if they refer to the lens, because you cant really see if its a 35mm or not. Looks like a zoom lens to me. Click on the Realplayer file.

http://www.canon.com/technology/d35mm/index.html
I think, since the pictured camera's the 1Ds, they're referring to 35 mm format DSLRs.

[Tom W]

The rumour mill is dry - same old rumors being regurgitated. We need fresh meat!!

[Jon]

well sorry, I just found it on some link and don't exactly have the time to read 42 pages of rumors :)
Not to single you out - if everyone who's posted here had actually read the entire thread before they posted, we'd have half, or fewer, the number of posts that we actually do.

[jfrancho]

Not to single you out - if everyone who's posted here had actually read the entire thread before they posted, we'd have half, or fewer, the number of posts that we actually do.Does that include everytime you've pointed out the duplicates? :)

[chris clements]

If we all pull together with courage and dedication I'm sure we can break the 50-Page Barrier by reposting all this same old guff, before Canon spoil our fun in 10 or 14 days with a genuine pre-PMA 'leak'.

[jacobsen1]

If we all pull together with courage and dedication I'm sure we can break the 50-Page Barrier by reposting all this same old guff, before Canon spoil our fun in 10 or 14 days with a genuine pre-PMA 'leak'.

just set posts per page to 10 and we're already there ;)

[Longwatcher]

I think, since the pictured camera's the 1Ds, they're referring to 35 mm format DSLRs.

It is actually the 1dsMkII artist cut away, just being picky since I have one.

.....
I will add to the rumor mill that I heard last night from someone who heard from a local store that their Canon rep indicated that the new lens will be a 35mm f/something prime. No new rumor on Camera other then wait until Monday 20 Feb.

A 35mm lens was not high on my guess list. And I am still expecting announcement on Monday the 13th as most likely day, but will conceed possibility of 20th, with less likely 6th. but it will be a Monday. Unless its not :P

[Rumjungle]

...I am still expecting announcement on Monday the 13th as most likely day, but will conceed possibility of 20th, with less likely 6th. but it will be a Monday. Unless its not :P

:lol:You're killin' me, man!:lol:

[dpastern]

Well, when I picked up my vertical grip for the D60 on Thursday, the sales guy in the shop that I get on ok with asked me if I'd heard any more rumours on the 20D replacement. Looks like Canon are keeping this one close to their chests!

Dave

edit: It's not uncommon for companies to put the webpages up for new products, they just don't link to them. Sadly, I tried this with both the Canon Australia and US sites, and no luck!

[Rumjungle]

Maybe because there is no replacement for the time being.

[chris clements]

This thread just passed 30k views
We're all mad.

[Jon]

Does that include everytime you've pointed out the duplicates? :)
Yeah. If I hadn't had to do that, there'd be, like, 10 posts.
:{)#

[JaertX]

Inside source tells me the EF 200mm f/1.8 DO IS USM will be the star of the show.

All the other stuff will be ho hum, answers to Nikon's latest few slr's.

[jlw82]

no more info?

[Tom W]

Rumours have dried up. I'm going to throw out my 2-camera rumor again.

A 20D replacement with little changes - bigger LCD, pictures styles, etc. for $1200 or so.
A D200 killer pro 1.6X body with around 10-11 mpx, lots of fps, big buffer, etc. for $2000.

[MALI]

.... I'm sure we can break the 50-Page Barrier ....before Canon spoil our fun in 10 or 14 days ...

I say we all avoid getting the news about the upcoming cameras from PMA and keep rumoring about them.

Or we could now start the rumor thread about the ones after these upcoming cameras.

Or how about taking a poll what we all think Canon will come up in 2010?

:lol:

MALI

[MALI]

On a more serious note, how does Canon keep the upcoming editions of cameras and lenses secret like this?

One of those guys/gals working in the factory should have a loose tongue??? No?

MALI

[Tsmith]

A 20D replacement with little changes - bigger LCD, pictures styles, etc. for $1200 or so.


I might would bite on that ... ;)

[Rumjungle]

On a more serious note, how does Canon keep the upcoming editions of cameras and lenses secret like this?

One of those guys/gals working in the factory should have a loose tongue??? No?

MALI

Doesn't anyone here know anyone at Canon? If you do, call me and well get him or her liquored up and on the receiving end of a few lap dances. The truth will come out in no time.;)

[FlyingPete]

Doesn't anyone here know anyone at Canon? If you do, call me and well get him or her liquored up and on the receiving end of a few lap dances. The truth will come out in no time.;)

Probably won't help, you will probably find out that 90% of Canon staff no nothing about it until the day it is released. I have worked in companies that work like that quite effectively, although they gave us a few days warning. They could keep whole projects secret for almost a year!

[ijohnson]

I talked to my Canon dealer here in Korea. He said, " New camera, maybe 3D, or, uhhh, I not sure, come out 1 month, you buy 2 month."

Later he said, "Anyong Haseyo". I don't know what that was, maybe the succesor to the 1dsmII.

Sounds promising!!!!

[BugEyes]

On a more serious note, how does Canon keep the upcoming editions of cameras and lenses secret like this?

One of those guys/gals working in the factory should have a loose tongue??? No?

MALI

Very easy,

As soon as there is a leak it will be assumed to be a false rumor and lost among the others. A pic will be assumed to be a PS fake. We might already have seen the specs of the next one, but how to tell the real thing apart from the rubbish?

[Tom W]

Very easy,

As soon as there is a leak it will be assumed to be a false rumor and lost among the others. A pic will be assumed to be a PS fake. We might already have seen the specs of the next one, but how to tell the real thing apart from the rubbish?

I'm sure that some of the rumored specs are real. The problem is finding which set of specs is the real leak and which is not.

[I Simonius]

I'm sure that some of the rumored specs are real. The problem is finding which set of specs is the real leak and which is not.

My specs are leaky?
Hell, and I thought I was crying!

:lol: :lol:

[Tom W]

My specs are leaky?
Hell, and I thought I was crying!

:lol: :lol:

No sense crying over spilled beans.....
:)

[hemuni]

OK - to keep this thread alive, I will ad to the speculations.

The 5D Canon is a semipro equivalent to the 1Ds.
I think the 20D replacement will continue to be a semipro equivalent to the 1D

We will definatly see some nice improvements, but none revolutionary.

To get the obvious out of the way, the layout will be almost identical to the current, except for a bigger screen and a pictbridge button.
(Canon philosophy: why change what works)

It will have:
- 10.2 mp (Still 1.6x)
- larger buffer (but only to compensate for larger sensor - still 24jpeg/6raw)
- larger screen (2,5")
- iso in the viewfinder (like 5D)
- spotmetering (metering like 5D)
- picture styles (it will still have basic zones)
- and, a pictbridge button.

And thats about it. No weather sealing, no mirror lockup button.

I hear a lot of people wanting to get rid of the basic zone modes, not me, Its great for letting other people use your camera, the only reason i dont use it is the lack of raw support (this will never happen, I know).

I dont think there will be a direct answer to the D200. Im more convinced about a D50 killer, like the rumored 3000D.

[puttick]

OMG not a pictbridge button ... unless they make it a programmable button, now that would be useful.

[Rumjungle]

I like those specs. What I would LIKE to see is a stripped down version of the 1dmk2n in the way that the 5d is like a stripped down 1dsmk2. Lower res but faster continuous, improved AF and all the other specs that hemuni said. I can live without the built-in flash, but it'll probably still be threre.

[jlw82]

i wonder what the price will be, and when its possible to buy,

[JaertX]

I talked to my Canon dealer here in Korea. He said, " New camera, maybe 3D, or, uhhh, I not sure, come out 1 month, you buy 2 month."

Later he said, "Anyong Haseyo". I don't know what that was, maybe the succesor to the 1dsmII.

Sounds promising!!!!

LOL...sounds like you have a good relationship with your dealer!

[willg]

i wonder what the price will be, and when its possible to buy,

lets hope under $1500 and soon

[EOSAddict]

LOL...sounds like you have a good relationship with your dealer!


JaertX,

I just noticed where you live. You will of course know the way to Amarillo, in-joke for the UK members ;)

[jfrancho]

I just hope the announcement floods the used market with 20Ds.

[ssim]

I spoke with my dealer here in Canada which I have a very good relationship with. He is going to the show this year. According to him, any announcements will hit the net long before they have the official data from Canon. If history repeats itself then this will be true. There have always been quasi-official rumors out there before the actual info is available from the dealers.

I'm bracing myself to spend some more money when the annoucements come out.

[hemuni]

I spoke with my dealer here in Canada...

Do you call him dr. feelgood? :D :D ;)

[red hot sheep]

Jfranco: I too hope that the market becomes saturated with 20ds! I'm looking to pick one up for not too much money!

EOSAddict: na na na na na na na na CLAP CLAP na na na na na na na na na every night I've been huggin my pillow...

[EOSAddict]

;) someone took the bait

[BugEyes]

I hope it comes in catchy colors, tired of the boring black lumps.

[shiato storm]

JaertX,

I just noticed where you live. You will of course know the way to Amarillo, in-joke for the UK members ;)
can you show us the way?

[Cathpah]

i REALLY hope they don't clutter the camera with some silly pictbridge button....is there THAT much need to print directly with out the use of a computer or any pp?
sounds silly to me....that belongs on a rebel, not a 20d-equivalent

[I Simonius]

can you show us the way?

ROTFL!:lol: :lol: :lol:

[JaertX]

JaertX,

I just noticed where you live. You will of course know the way to Amarillo, in-joke for the UK members ;)
I've heard the song...don't get me wrong, I like it here, but the song is much more exciting that the town.:neutral:

[jlw82]

i wonder if its worth tp upgrade from a 350d...?

[Jackal]

If your 350D does everything you want it to then it's not worth it. =)

[celsus]

Between gear fantasizing, lens and camera collecting, forum participations, and your hopefully gainful employment, how do you folks manage to find any time for photo taking ?;)

[ijohnson]

OpenRAW survey needs your help!!!

HAHAHAHAHA!! I've looked at dpreview.com so many times that I have totally memorized everything on their first page. I hope the next update is whatever Canon is announcing at PMA or I might go crazy. By the way, ignore their hit counter, 1.2 million of those hits are just me refreshing.

Kodak's digital sales overtake film.

[I Simonius]

I've heard the song...don't get me wrong, I like it here, but the song is much more exciting that the town.:neutral:

yeah but aren't they way crunchy?
Oh Sorry that's Armadilloes!;)

[EOSAddict]

but only on the outside Simon ;)

[I Simonius]

but only on the outside Simon ;)

Mmmm those soft centres!

I wonder if you could make a camera with an Armadillo shell? ( even with teeth marks) :lol:

Now then now then now then.....

I think the 20D upgrade wil have to BEAT the Noink with 10MP, which means that it will have to be 11MP as 12 would detract from 5D sales ( for those who look to buy cheapest per MP) because if it goes to 12 MP the 5D will slump in sales unless they also up that to above 12MP (16 PLEASE) :drool:

[RichardtheSane]

Well, I have just read through this entire thread. What have I been missing out on :D :D :D

It has left me with one single thought on my mind though

crunchy on the outside soft in the middle:
AAAAAAAAAAAAarmaDILLOOOOO!!!

and for that, I think I don't thankyou :confused:

:D :D :D

[I Simonius]

Well, I have just read through this entire thread. What have I been missing out on :D :D :D

It has left me with one single thought on my mind though

crunchy on the outside soft in the middle:
AAAAAAAAAAAAarmaDILLOOOOO!!!

and for that, I think I don't thankyou :confused:

:D :D :D

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Hellashot]

OK - to keep this thread alive, I will ad to the speculations.

It will have:
- 10.2 mp (Still 1.6x)
- larger buffer (but only to compensate for larger sensor - still 24jpeg/6raw)

I dont think there will be a direct answer to the D200. Im more convinced about a D50 killer, like the rumored 3000D.

Larger sensor? Wrong. 1.6x would be same size sensor. Larger buffer to deal with more pixels. It'll do more in a burst than before.

Why a 3000D? All they have to do is just re-release the Drebel because where new it sells for $500 without lens! That's all they'd do is repackage it.

[hemuni]

Larger sensor? Wrong. 1.6x would be same size sensor. Larger buffer to deal with more pixels. It'll do more in a burst than before.

Why a 3000D? All they have to do is just re-release the Drebel because where new it sells for $500 without lens! That's all they'd do is repackage it.

10.2/1.6x just means denser pixels.

[Ikinaa]

I'm too lazy to look if this has already been posted... (but as several pictures have been posted dozens of times in this thread, one more double-post surely won't be the opening of the apocalype...)
http://www.infodigitalcamera.com/EOS3000D.pdf

[In2Photos]

I'm too lazy to look if this has already been posted... (but as several pictures have been posted dozens of times in this thread, one more double-post surely won't be the opening of the apocalype...)
http://www.infodigitalcamera.com/EOS3000D.pdf

That is an obvious fake. Look at the second page of the PDF and zoom in. Only half of the page is legible.

[Tom W]

That is an obvious fake. Look at the second page of the PDF and zoom in. Only half of the page is legible.

Looks reasonably realistic to me, but I wonder why Canon would even make such a camera. Are there some 6.3 mpx chips laying about that they want to use up?

[jfrancho]

That is an obvious fake. Look at the second page of the PDF and zoom in. Only half of the page is legible.Reads fine on my monitor.

[In2Photos]

Looks reasonably realistic to me, but I wonder why Canon would even make such a camera. Are there some 6.3 mpx chips laying about that they want to use up?


Reads fine on my monitor.




Well, I guess it is just my monitor then. Weird!

[Longwatcher]

I am relieved, less then a month to go and I was worried that there would be no leaks.
The PDF for the 3000D looks like it is a good one. About time.

Now if we can just get the leaker for the expected 20D upgrade. Maybe later this week.

As to format/pixels. They already have the costs of the sensor focal plane array paid for so all they have to do is produce more, the rest is probably reduction in costs.
It looks like how low cost can we make a DSLR camera people will still want.
It should come in under $500 retail with kit lens, which is cheaper then some P&S cameras. But that is only a guess on my part.

[chris clements]

Are we saying that, 690 posts into the thread, something genuine has finally been unearthed? Were's my medication?

[In2Photos]

I am relieved, less then a month to go and I was worried that there would be no leaks.
The PDF for the 3000D looks like it is a good one. About time.

Now if we can just get the leaker for the expected 20D upgrade. Maybe later this week.

As to format/pixels. They already have the costs of the sensor focal plane array paid for so all they have to do is produce more, the rest is probably reduction in costs.
It looks like how low cost can we make a DSLR camera people will still want.
It should come in under $500 retail with kit lens, which is cheaper then some P&S cameras. But that is only a guess on my part.

At that price I might have to get my wife one so I can have the XT for me only.:D

[Jon]

Definitely a shocker, isn't it. Some reasonably credible evidence for something new and exciting(?). Actually, cheap enough and I might think about picking up one to leave at the office.

[jerrythesnake]

Reads fine on my monitor.in the second half of the page it says 350d instead of the new model!!!

[In2Photos]

in the second half of the page it says 350d instead of the new model!!!

Haha, I couldn't read it the first time, but now I see it. Good catch.

[Tom W]

Still leaves the question of the 20D, though. Rumours are abound as to whether there'll be a minor "20Dn" upgrade, or a significant upgrade, or the minor upgrade and another camera.

And then there's the lens department. What's going to come out there?

[Jon]

Take a look at the grip, and note the placement of the IR sensor - distinctly different from the existing DRs. Red-eye reduction lamp's missing, too. Also note the rocker switch instead of the 4 separate switches for the "QC" functions of the 300D/350D. Missing one button (direct print/white balance?) from the 350D, although that might be a little smudgey from a PS edit. Mode control dial's slightly recessed into the body. If this one's a fake, it's certainly one of the best to date. Rememberthe 5D sheet from Canon Italy? ISTR similar points coming up on that. Anyone in Australia/NZ who can compare this sheet to the relevant paper for a 350D or 300D?

[Tom W]

Haha, I couldn't read it the first time, but now I see it. Good catch.

Whoops - another rumour bites the dust! :)

[_SBradley_]

It's also says 6.0MP (bottom of page 1) and 6.3MP (page 2).

I wouldn't discount it, though: I've seen copy/paste errors in Canon documents before. ;)

[JBF]

FAAAAKE!!! 3000D but in the paragraph that is talking about speed 2 to 4 frames it says 350D. And yes PDF files read a lot better than this one does. At 100 percent there are sentences I can't read. Some people just can't stand it!!! It reminds me of Jerry Seinfeld and Elaine talking about faking orgasms. When Jerry says what about the time? and Elaine goes fake fake fake fake and fake.

[Longwatcher]

I don't think it is a fake, But I have been wrong before.
I seem to remember the 1DM2N PDF that came out of a Spanish site had errors in it as well and turned out to be the real thing.

The frame rate on the 350D (AKA Rebel XT) is 3 FPS with 14 burst. So 2 FPS with 4 frame burst is a difference that means they probably copied the 350D brochure over as a starting point and missed a couple things before it leaked (or for the conspiracy theorist they deliberately left some mistakes in to make you think it was a fake, but otherwise leak it to get the rumors going).

At least if nothing else it is closer then most of the other rumor pictures/info I have seen leading up to PMA 2006. And rumors have remained consistant on possibility of 3000D announced at PMA 2006 along with 20D upgrade.

Just a couple more weeks to go.

[FlyingPete]

I don't think it is a fake, But I have been wrong before.
I seem to remember the 1DM2N PDF that came out of a Spanish site had errors in it as well and turned out to be the real thing.

I can guarantee you all with 100% certainty that this PDF is a fake, as I know the guy who did it. It was actually done around the time of the 5D rumors, the image "leaked" onto a couple of sites, but it didn't really get anywhere, six or so months later a bit more spare time, and he produced this and leaked it to someones photo blog thingy.

I will try and seek proof to put this myth to an end. What I can say for sure is the images are a Photoshop of a 350D and 300v film camera.

As fun as it seems to speculate on this one, I don't really want to see people waste their time on it, if there is really a 3000D, this ain't it!

[red hot sheep]

Like flyingpete said, I'm sure the 3000D was a rumour long ago (months), proven to be a complete fake.

[quiksilver]

Has anyone heard of the new 30D and any specs on it.Dont know if I should wait for it or buy a 5D.

[Mike K]

Given the pace at which Canon dSLRs are updated, the 20D is due for a successor at the PMA in a month. No one even knows what it would be called, so 30D is speculation, especially since they already have a D30. Half reliable details are non existant, so make a decision without them. Even if one is announced at the end of this month, it will probably be another month or two until they are delivered.
Mike K

[In2Photos]

Has anyone heard of the new 30D and any specs on it.Dont know if I should wait for it or buy a 5D.

Did you read ANY of this thread?

[Jon]

Result of yet another merge. That's why this thread's subtitled (Merge City). We're trying to keep new "Rumor" threads from driving all other content onto page 16.

[FlyingPete]

Result of yet another merge. That's why this thread's subtitled (Merge City). We're trying to keep new "Rumor" threads from driving all other content onto page 16.

Is there a way of indicating posts that have been merged from other threads?

[jfrancho]

The titles of each post are a somewhat unreliable clue as to whether it was merged or not.

[Jon]

Yeah. We don't edit titles on merged posts. You can (fairly) safely assume that if a post doesn't start with "Re: " it's a likely candidate to have been the start of another thread before we pounced.

[Travis F]

I told myself I wasn't going to do this, but here I go. I am posting to this thread.:o

I have, I think, a legitimate question.

I am wondering, if the 20D is in fact replaced, does anyone think the 20Da also would get a replacement at the same time?

Just thought that I would ask. I haven't seen it come up before.

Travis

[Tom W]

I told myself I wasn't going to do this, but here I go. I am posting to this thread.:o

I have, I think, a legitimate question.

I am wondering, if the 20D is in fact replaced, does anyone think the 20Da also would get a replacement at the same time?

Just thought that I would ask. I haven't seen it come up before.

Travis

That's a real good question. I do wish that the 20Da were about the same price as the 20D, though (a wish that is totally irrelevent to the subject, but I still wish it).

[CyberDyneSystems]

I suppose when they stop making the 20D,. the "A" will also be stopped,. but who knows at what rate the sales would deplete existing stock.

Whether the "A" was enough of a success to warrant Canon repeating the idea in a future model is also a question we can only guess at ..

[Tom W]

I suspect that the 20Da was a very low-volume seller, which is why the price was/is so high. It isn't all that different from the 20D, but has the features that make the astrophotogs happy, apparently. If they can do the same with the replacement for the 20D (assuming there is one), it would be well-received.

[jporter12]

I suppose when they stop making the 20D,. the "A" will also be stopped,. but who knows at what rate the sales would deplete existing stock.

Whether the "A" was enough of a success to warrant Canon repeating the idea in a future model is also a question we can only guess at ..

I couldn't imagine it was all THAT expensive to produce the "A" version. Biggest part of the cost of it was the R&D into making the changes to it, and of course being a low volume model, the additional cost of making small runs of them....

I'm sure they could do it on the new model, but they could also do the "A" conversion on a 5D or a 1 series.... I'm sure that since they started it, they'll keep an "A" model in the lineup, unless it has completely flopped in sales!!!

[steved110]

I've just seen this posted on another forum, it is a link to a rumour about the 20D replacement. We've seen the photo of the camera before on another thread, but there is another pic of an instruction manual. Hoax or not?
http://www.livingroom.org.au/photolog/reviews/canon/canon_eos_35d.php

[PaulB]

Actually 35D would fit the numbering system very well.

5D - current prosumer FF
35D - 20D replacement
350D - current amateur body
3500D - rumoured entry level body

[Ikinaa]

look here : http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=129278
hundreds of posts of the same subject...

[Jon]

It's not called "Merge City" for nothing.

[Hellashot]

I've just seen this posted on another forum, it is a link to a rumour about the 20D replacement. We've seen the photo of the camera before on another thread, but there is another pic of an instruction manual. Hoax or not?
http://www.livingroom.org.au/photolog/reviews/canon/canon_eos_35d.php

Fake. It's been around for a few weeks.

Actually 35D would fit the numbering system very well.

5D - current prosumer FF
35D - 20D replacement
350D - current amateur body
3500D - rumoured entry level body

3500D? Never heard that rumor. Rumor is 3000D. It'll be 30D anyways, because Canon on 1/21 (1 month before expected announcement) that they sold their 30,000,000th EF lens. Why else would they announce such a peculiar milestone so close to the replacement? :)

[Cathpah]

3500D? Never heard that rumor. Rumor is 3000D. It'll be 30D anyways, because Canon on 1/21 (1 month before expected announcement) that they sold their 30,000,000th EF lens. Why else would they announce such a peculiar milestone so close to the replacement? :)

Interesting idea about the 30,000,000 lens announcement.....i LIKE it!
I just wonder if its true....which only time will tell.

[Tom W]

Maybe it will be the 30MD. :)

[Citizensmith]

It'll be 30D anyways, because Canon on 1/21 (1 month before expected announcement) that they sold their 30,000,000th EF lens. Why else would they announce such a peculiar milestone so close to the replacement? :)

Based on that it could be the 30,000,000D. :)

[MiG82]

I have decided that it's time for Canon to release a new flagship line - the 0. First cab of the rank will be the 0D.
It makes perfect sense. It must be true.

[Rumjungle]

I'm cool with it. Sign me up for a Zero!

[CyberDyneSystems]

Hmmm..

Zero and Looser... I'm seeing a trend in Canon's marketing...

[mfunnell]

Zero and Looser... I'm seeing a trend in Canon's marketing...Hey! I resemble that remark.

...Mike

[celter]

At least we now have a date for the release: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=17086260

[Ikinaa]

At least we now have a date for the release: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=17086260

and a lecture in norvegian plural forms :lol:

[Tom W]

At least we now have a date for the release: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=17086260

You folks are way too fast for me!! I was just about to post this.

So we know that something is coming. Camera or Cameras. DSLR or DSLRs. Lenses!!

[roanjohn]

So Feb 21 is the day...............can't wait!!!

PREDICTION: A page about the new camera and lenses will be posted accidentaly in the Canon website a week before..............

:-) FUN!!!! Ro1

[celter]

Finally. here are the pics of the new 35D. ( I won !!!)
http://www.fotografi.no/

[EOSAddict]

New website, same pic ;)

[In2Photos]

Finally. here are the pics of the new 35D. ( I won !!!)
http://www.fotografi.no/

Those have been posted already, nice try.

[celter]

Well, maybee, but I haven't seen these pics before. Where did you see them?

[roanjohn]

Finally. here are the pics of the new 35D. ( I won !!!)
http://www.fotografi.no/

I wonder what you get as a prize..........maybe a 35D?? ;)

Ro1

[In2Photos]

Well, maybee, but I haven't seen these pics before. Where did you see them?

Check in the 40+ pages here, you will see them.

[In2Photos]

Well, maybee, but I haven't seen these pics before. Where did you see them?

Here you go.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=16766111
seems like the body will be smaller than the 20D?
Camera body will also feature smooth curves like the 5D.
Specs still unknown.

[D113]

The grip in that pic looks a little small, while the body looks bigger... I wonder if the 20d grip will be compatible with it along with the Batteries!?

D

[celter]

Well, I guess I had seen them before... No first price for me after all :(

[Tom W]

Those have been posted already, nice try.

Doesn't mean the image is wrong. Or right. The fact that it's on a more legit web site holds some promise, but I would really have to brush up on my Norwegian to understand things. :)

[In2Photos]

Doesn't mean the image is wrong. Or right. The fact that it's on a more legit web site holds some promise, but I would really have to brush up on my Norwegian to understand things. :)

I never said they were wrong. I only said that he wasn't the first to post it.

[Tom W]

OK, from DPR, a supposedly direct translation of the text of one of the pages on the Norwegian web site:

This is the text written by Morten M. Løberg. (maybe some wrong English grammar...)

Once more, we can as the first magazine in Norway announce a new camera. Canons new dSLR will officially be released the 21. of February and it will be named 35D. Finally we got a picture of the new camera, and we hope to get specifications during the day.

Torbjoern

[Tom W]

The grip in that pic looks a little small, while the body looks bigger... I wonder if the 20d grip will be compatible with it along with the Batteries!?

D

More importantly (to me anyway), would the 5D's grip fit....

[Alpieagle]

The grip in that pic looks a little small, while the body looks bigger...

I know it was said before, but just because of that UGLY grip I'd wait another year until upgrading anything if I would need to. :confused:

Hopefully the new grip isn't even close to this one.

[spencer87]

woohoo we made it to 50 pages! lets see if we can get to 100 before PMA..... ;)

[roanjohn]

woohoo we made it to 50 pages! lets see if we can get to 100 before PMA..... ;)

Why am I only on 38?? :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

Ro1

[jfrancho]

You can define how many posts per page are displayed in the CP. This makes the "page stat" irrelevent. I only have 15 pages. What counts is yours is post #748.

[chris clements]

Why am I only on 38??
Just be grateful that you've lost 12 pages of smoke, mirrors and reposts.

[Tom W]

Why am I only on 38?? :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

Ro1

Depends on how many "posts per page" you have selected. I'm only on page 25.

EDIT - make that 26. :)