[[Unofficial Rumor Thread]] (Merge City)

[Citizensmith]

85 f1.2L Mk II or 50 f1.2L anyone ?

Got to agree, if a 50 f/1.2 L does show up that will be what I'll most upset about not being able to afford.

[sapearl]

So many photos, so many speculations, so many rumors....... sigh :(

What I don't understand though is the advertised pricing at some of these places. I checked out the price of a 5D body at bobatkins.com and he shows it going for $2379. Now that's about $900 off sticker, and about $600 better than the best at other places. I'm always suspicious when I see something that looks too good to be true.

But in all fairness, I know nothing about bobatkins.com and perhaps everything IS included, and he just manages to make good wholesale purchases which he passes along. Anyone have experience there?

I have heard the following from the Bob Atkins Web Site at
http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/digital/canon_eos_35D.html

[chancellor]

sapearl, I would imagine that it's a typo and meant to be $3279. Bob Atkins is one of the respected members of photo.net and runs his own site as well. I don't him or off him, but have read numerous reviews that he wrote.

[Tom W]

So many photos, so many speculations, so many rumors....... sigh :(

What I don't understand though is the advertised pricing at some of these places. I checked out the price of a 5D body at bobatkins.com and he shows it going for $2379. Now that's about $900 off sticker, and about $600 better than the best at other places. I'm always suspicious when I see something that looks too good to be true.

But in all fairness, I know nothing about bobatkins.com and perhaps everything IS included, and he just manages to make good wholesale purchases which he passes along. Anyone have experience there?

Bob Atkins doesn't sell the gear, but he does provide links on his site to retailers. Some are respectable like Adorama (if you can get past the phone call with Meyer trying to upsell your purchase), and perhaps some aren't as reputable. It seems that internet pricing for the 5D at what should be reputable dealers is between 2950 and 3000 or a bit over that right now.

You're right - if it looks too good to be true, it probably is.

[sapearl]

Thanks Chancellor - now I see that the pricing is in fact from THE CAMERAPROS.COM and not Bob; my hasty conclusion. Glad to hear he's a standup guy.

Still that $2379 does show on the page, which is one heckuva "grabber" typo for pulling folks in off the street. :o I'm with you Tom, if it seems "to good to be true..." Whenever I see pricing like that I figure that's because I'm just getting the camera: no battery, no charger, no S/W..... who knows....

In the meantime I'm going to give the folks a call at BestPriceAudioVideo.com and try to get a feel for their operation. Ratings on the web seem good for the most part. They're about 20 miles west of where I work so I'll stop in and see if they have counter operations there. If so, I'll just drive out for a pick-up and not involve UPS in the purchase.

sapearl, I would imagine that it's a typo and meant to be $3279. Bob Atkins is one of the respected members of photo.net and runs his own site as well. I don't him or off him, but have read numerous reviews that he wrote.

[Thomas]

I saw the magic words today:
“UNTIL QUANTITIES LAST”
next to a Canon 20D on sale. It’s happening!


Thomas

[SuzyView]

Doesn't bother me. I love mine. :)

[Citizensmith]

TGlad to hear he's a standup guy.

Bob Atkins is one of the best things about photo.net. Very knowlegable and always puts in a lot of effort. Wonder if we can get him to defect? :) We've got some great pros here, but the more the merrier.

[jporter12]

Doesn't bother me. I love mine. :)

Does me! It's going to be another week or so before I can buy mine! Although, I have no problem buying a used camera from a reputable source..

[JohnnyG]

Who knows??? After they stop selling 20D's, maybe used 20D's will sell for more!!!!

Probably not though but one can dream!:lol: :lol: :lol:

[roanjohn]

I saw the magic words today:
“UNTIL QUANTITIES LAST”
next to a Canon 20D on sale. It’s happening!


Thomas

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah......go get 'em 20D's before they all sold out.

Ro1

[RJCONKLIN]

Thanks Chancellor - now I see that the pricing is in fact from THE CAMERAPROS.COM and not Bob; my hasty conclusion. Glad to hear he's a standup guy.

Still that $2379 does show on the page, which is one heckuva "grabber" typo for pulling folks in off the street. :o I'm with you Tom, if it seems "to good to be true..." Whenever I see pricing like that I figure that's because I'm just getting the camera: no battery, no charger, no S/W..... who knows....

In the meantime I'm going to give the folks a call at BestPriceAudioVideo.com and try to get a feel for their operation. Ratings on the web seem good for the most part. They're about 20 miles west of where I work so I'll stop in and see if they have counter operations there. If so, I'll just drive out for a pick-up and not involve UPS in the purchase.
best price audio video is a good company. i have purchased from them. there is a better price for the 5d at www.buyeretail.com $2896.95 including shipping. resellers 8.18

[roli_bark]

best price audio video is a good company. i have purchased from them. there is a better price for the 5d at www.buyeretail.com (http://www.buyeretail.com) $2896.95 including shipping. resellers 8.18

This is not a big deal. I'd prefer the same 5D from the reputable B&H for $2895...

[Cathpah]

This is not a big deal. I'd prefer the same 5D from the reputable B&H for $2895...

how'd you get that low of a price? when I added it to my cart, I got the price to be $2969....what's your trick?

[roli_bark]

how'd you get that low of a price? when I added it to my cart, I got the price to be $2969....what's your trick?

Look at the Product code...search this forum for the trick !!! ....:) :) :)

BTW the 20D (using same trick) is $1150 ...

[Hellashot]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah......go get 'em 20D's before they all sold out.

Ro1

All out? B&H has NEW 10Ds still! :)

[roanjohn]

All out? B&H has NEW 10Ds still! :)

HUH!!!?? I thought the 10D has been out of production. Well.........thats good I guess. The 10D is a very capable camera.

I just saw the invites for the upcoming Canon extravaganza........

FEB 21st..........70 new products!!! WOHHOOOOOO!!!

Ro1

[In2Photos]

HUH!!!?? I thought the 10D has been out of production. Well.........thats good I guess. The 10D is a very capable camera.

I just saw the invites for the upcoming Canon extravaganza........

FEB 21st..........70 new products!!! WOHHOOOOOO!!!

Ro1

69 P&S cameras and a new __D!:D

[Jon]

Nah. 64 redesigned ink cartridges, 4 printers and successors to the A510 and A520.

[sapearl]

Nope.... got it from a reliable source: new color scheme for all the lens caps; dark onyx will replace black.

[RJCONKLIN]

This is not a big deal. I'd prefer the same 5D from the reputable B&H for $2895...
$2969.95 at b&h. www.buyeretail.com is reputable. resellers life time rating 8.18 out of 10.00
the b&h website you list is not available to the general public, it requires a special code to get $2894.95
ps: please learn to read numbers correctly, espically prices!

[Sageg]

dark onyx will replace black

If only we could buy the camera in different colours.

(going back under my rock as everyone throws stones as me. :) )

[Jon]

$2969.95 at b&h. www.buyeretail.com (http://www.buyeretail.com) is reputable. resellers life time rating 8.18 out of 10.00.

ps: please learn to read numbers correctly, espically prices! Did you look at the web screen capture he posted? The post you're quoting is here (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=1184497&postcount=914). Please note that the price, in his cart, is $2894.95.

[I Simonius]

Nope.... got it from a reliable source: new color scheme for all the lens caps; dark onyx will replace black.


Mmmmm...Nice.....:rolleyes:

[I Simonius]

If only we could buy the camera in different colours.

(going back under my rock as everyone throws stones as me. :) )

I have mine custom painted, flames and all, like my Bike!:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[FlyingPete]

I have mine custom painted, flames and all, like my Bike!:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I had a guy suggest painting flames on my 70-200 lens hood a few weeks back, cool :D

[Sageg]

I have mine custom painted, flames and all, like my Bike!

Simon--share a pix!

[Longwatcher]

Today's add to the rumor:

For a few hours Canon's Spanish site had said there would be 70 "launches" and had a countdown to an announcement on 21st. I saw the web page myself before it got changed, but was too busy, luckily someone else had screen captured it before/after.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1000&message=17165864

The removal may indicate a deliberate or accidental leak. I seem to remember last year around this time they did announce 50 for the upcoming year (don't know if they actually released 50 last year) although only a small number were actually announced at PMA itself. So I suspect 70 being an announcement of how many products this year instead of PMA. But looks like I guessed wrong on date by a week and a day. Although in fairness I had forgotten about President's day, but why Canon would care enough about US holiday for international release is beyond me.

Anyway at least we had one small leak today.

[sapearl]

I haven't had a chance to drive out there yet - only about 35 miles from my home - but I did give Bestpriceaudiovideo.com a call. Talked to a very pleasant sales person who explained that they do not have a showroom or any sort of "storefront", but I could drive out there for a customer pickup. This is what I'd been looking for.

The 5D is currently in stock at $2909, which is a pretty decent price. I know it's shown cheaper elsewhere, but I won't quibble over just a few bucks. I'm always just a little wary of some mail order, having been burned by a "grey market" Metz strobe I purchased some time back that could never get fixed, and another place that filed bankruptcy before I got the lens I'd ordered. The courts awarded me 10 cents on the dollar for the lens.

The Metz was not a warranty item - it broke after years of use, but I couldn't even BUY the parts from them since they claimed it was grey.

Another nice thing about BestPrice - the rep said there's a 30 day walk-in replacement if the unit is defective. After 30-days it's standard factory warranty. Dodds claims they will locally price match, but I'm not sure if they'll do this with a place that doesn't have a real "store front." Anyway, it's a strategy I'll try around the time of PMA - I can be patient. :lol:

BTW, the 24-105mm IS L that I want, they don't have, saying it's been pretty popular. I'll probably end up getting that at Dodds unless something more attractive presents itself.

Stu

best price audio video is a good company. i have purchased from them. there is a better price for the 5d at www.buyeretail.com (http://www.buyeretail.com) $2896.95 including shipping. resellers 8.18

[PacAce]

But that leak doesn't do us any good, Tim. I could care less about the 69 other products. I just want to know about ONE! :lol:

[Alpieagle]

Where's a moaning smiley when you need it? :neutral:

[Ariel]

Today's add to the rumor:

For a few hours Canon's Spanish site had said there would be 70 "launches" and had a countdown to an announcement on 21st. I saw the web page myself before it got changed, but was too busy, luckily someone else had screen captured it before/after.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1000&message=17165864

The removal may indicate a deliberate or accidental leak.
It's not removed... If this is what you mean it's still there.

http://www.canon.es/proyectoweb/home.nsf/voTodosId/610DB9C22C312899C1256D42003C79AD/$File/showtime.gif


It says "+ De 70 nuevos productos"

So its more than 70.... 71, 72 70.5 =)

Saludos,
Ariel

[SDK^]

I beginning to think the 30D, 35D or whatever it's called is just going to be a 20D with a 10MP sensor and a 2.5" inch LCD - Not exactly exciting stuff.
I'm more interested in the potential new lenses that might be announced.

[I Simonius]

I beginning to think the 30D, 35D or whatever it's called is just going to be a 20D with a 10MP sensor and a 2.5" inch LCD - Not exactly exciting stuff.
I'm more interested in the potential new lenses that might be announced.

I can't see it.
- they HAVE TO beat the 10MP of the D200 just as a matter of pride, it's become a running joke,so I'm sure they will

Which means thery have to shuffler the whole line

That's my prediction any way!

[RJCONKLIN]

I haven't had a chance to drive out there yet - only about 35 miles from my home - but I did give Bestpriceaudiovideo.com a call. Talked to a very pleasant sales person who explained that they do not have a showroom or any sort of "storefront", but I could drive out there for a customer pickup. This is what I'd been looking for.

The 5D is currently in stock at $2909, which is a pretty decent price. I know it's shown cheaper elsewhere, but I won't quibble over just a few bucks. I'm always just a little wary of some mail order, having been burned by a "grey market" Metz strobe I purchased some time back that could never get fixed, and another place that filed bankruptcy before I got the lens I'd ordered. The courts awarded me 10 cents on the dollar for the lens.

The Metz was not a warranty item - it broke after years of use, but I couldn't even BUY the parts from them since they claimed it was grey.

Another nice thing about BestPrice - the rep said there's a 30 day walk-in replacement if the unit is defective. After 30-days it's standard factory warranty. Dodds claims they will locally price match, but I'm not sure if they'll do this with a place that doesn't have a real "store front." Anyway, it's a strategy I'll try around the time of PMA - I can be patient. :lol:

BTW, the 24-105mm IS L that I want, they don't have, saying it's been pretty popular. I'll probably end up getting that at Dodds unless something more attractive presents itself.

Stu
best price audio video is an authorized canon dealer. you will have no problem with them. as far as lenses go ya just can't beat b&h for variety and price.

[p3t3r]

Not sure if you have heard this..but this is what i've just got from my yahoo RSS reader..

http://www.dphotojournal.com/canon-will-launch-70-products-on-feb-21st/

Cheers,

Peter

[Photodawg1]

I'm finding it hard to wait....but that is only next week. I thought they weren't unveiling until a week after that...whooohoo.:lol:

[mrclark321]

Has anyone heard about this?
Note the lense on it!!


http://www.dphotojournal.com/category/rumors/

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y200/mrclark321/canon_eos3da.jpg

[KevC]

Looks really fake. But if it isn't, I'd be more interested in that 40mm f/1.2L :D

[Ariel]

Not sure if you have heard this..but this is what i've just got from my yahoo RSS reader..

http://www.dphotojournal.com/canon-will-launch-70-products-on-feb-21st/

Cheers,

Peter

It's on the Canon website from Spain. http://www.canon.es
Dont know if it's true or not. But it's there. It actually says 70+ more products. Could be 71. :D

[mrclark321]

Looks really fake. But if it isn't, I'd be more interested in that 40mm f/1.2L :D

Ya, the 40L f/1.2 really peaked my curiosity too ;)

[jporter12]

Back to bestpriceaudiovideo.com , they're a few dollars more than B&H's price on the 20D for me, since they charge Ohio sales tax, even though the shipping is free. The "code" price at B&H is even cheaper.

If ya wanna see the Canon countdown yourself, goto http://www.canon.es/ . Click on the rectangular red box in the lower middle of the frame.

[jporter12]

BTW...OT, but does anyone know how long PSJAN will be in effect?

[stupot]

oh yay another rumour thread... hehe:) does look cool though.. especially that lens

[MrChad]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah......go get 'em 20D's before they all sold out.

Ro1

Bhphoto still had 10D a few weeks ago new, give me a break, 20D's will be instock until like June at least...if not longer.

[DavidW]

I expect a mod will probably move this, like all the rumour threads, to the "Canon EOS Digital Cameras" forum - indeed, it'll probably get merged into the big rumour thread over there.


I really don't see what all the excitement is with these rumours. There's a lot of (often not very convincing) Photoshopped images of kit that doesn't exist which we've often seen before, a tremendous number of people commenting on the purported specifications - and it doesn't seem to go anywhere.

I think it's no secret that we're expecting some announcements from Canon at PMA; anyone thinking of new equipment may want to wait until the end of the month to see what is announced and what discounts are available on models that are being discontinued. However, new equipment doesn't make existing equipment obsolete overnight, and most people's photography is more about taking and making pictures than collecting equipment. I'd rather spend time reading threads that help me improve my photography than discuss rumours - but each to their own.


I have my 20D, which I bought six months ago when people were already saying that it was going to be discontinued (in fact, those rumours were for the 5D, which complements rather than supersedes the 20D). The 20D will almost certainly be replaced, but I fully expect to skip this generation and see where we are in 2-3 years time with bodies.

Digital bodies are going to be superseded every couple of years - that's the nature of the game, but the increments are getting smaller between generations now. The body that supersedes the 20D is going to have a crop factor (probably 1.6x to keep EF-S lens compatibility), will probably be somewhat higher resolution than the current 20D (whilst more is always better, gaining another couple of megapixels makes less of a difference than it did when pixel counts were rather lower), is likely to have a bigger LCD, and will probably have other features seen in the 5D, such as RGB histograms. Will I take significantly better pictures if I had one of the new bodies rather than my 20D? I doubt it.

If I do spend money, it will likely be on lenses or lighting; items in which development tends to be much slower than in digital bodies. However, I'm coming to the point where I have pretty much what I want for my photography - there are always more things I would like, but I may well not get enough use from them to justify the expense, storage space and weight. My interest is far more in getting the best to use what I'm fortunate to have.


When I first came into the forums, I spent most of my time in the Equipment Talk sections. When I'd learnt what I needed to, I pretty much stopped following the Canon EOS Digital Cameras forum and the EF and EF-S lens forum, and I spent more time in Talk About Photography and the RAW, Printing and Post-Processing forums.

I may well fade out of the Accessories and Storage forum, as I'm getting to the point where I have most of the equipment I need. I try to keep up with the Small Flash and Studio Lighting forum, as I still have much to learn (and I still need to track down a flash bracket that works for me). I expect I'll head more for the critique forums in the future as I get more confident in what I'm doing.

I wonder if other people make similar journeys through the various forums.



David

[sapearl]

Always improves on the "purchasing Fuzzy Factor" to hear about a good buying experience. It's sometimes hard to separate the good folks from the less reputable enterprises out there. I have purchased form B&H before and have always been pleased. Thanks RJ.

best price audio video is an authorized canon dealer. you will have no problem with them. as far as lenses go ya just can't beat b&h for variety and price.

[sapearl]

Patience Grasshopper - fortune and good favor awaits he who is patient. Or: "Don't be in a hurry to be someone's 'Beta-Tester.'

I'm finding it hard to wait....but that is only next week. I thought they weren't unveiling until a week after that...whooohoo.:lol:

[aam1234]

Heard about it sometime ago, and it is supposed to be between the 5D and 1Ds. I'm waiting for such a camera, but I know my waiting will be long.

[Hellashot]

I can't see it.
- they HAVE TO beat the 10MP of the D200 just as a matter of pride, it's become a running joke,so I'm sure they will

Which means thery have to shuffler the whole line

That's my prediction any way!

You realize that the 30D was finished being designed and was into production probably before the D200 was announced. They aren't going to go back to the drawing board and start over just to add a few pixels.

[Hellashot]

Yes, it's an old fake.

[kawter2]

fake w a 50mm 1.4 cloned out


bad job imo


prepare to be merged

[lost]

You realize that the 30D was finished being designed and was into production probably before the D200 was announced. They aren't going to go back to the drawing board and start over just to add a few pixels.

No but they could dump the current generation and rush developement on the next to get out in time to be competitive. Just a thought. I know this has been done before.

I do expect there to be more than a 2mp jump this time. Consumer cameras will be at 10mp VERY soon. And canon does not want them to compete with their DSLRs. I dont see the 12mp of the 5d as being a ceiling as a lot of people do.

No one buys the 5d for its resolution, lets be real they buy it for the FF sensor. Well I should know better than to deal in absolutes so I will revise that statement to read, most people dont buy it for the 12mp.

[jporter12]

Myself, I'm actually fine with my 6.3 MP on my Drebel. I'm looking into a 20D for other performance reasons. The MP is not a selling point to me anymore, now that I know how important the other stuff is! (now that I'm out of green box mode which was pretty much within the first 50 shots on digital!!!)

[JaertX]

- they HAVE TO beat the 10MP of the D200 just as a matter of pride

hmm...how about if they just make it just like the D200 without the banding :o

[I Simonius]

:lol: You realize that the 30D was finished being designed and was into production probably before the D200 was announced. They aren't going to go back to the drawing board and start over just to add a few pixels.

you reckon?
How about they anticipated the D200 with 10MP and planned from the outset to get one up on it?
If they haven't then they must have completely dozed off.

[chris clements]

No but they could dump the current generation and rush developement on the next to get out in time to be competitive.

Just how much more competitive can Canon get? It has double the market share of the only other credible player, and its dominance helped send #3 to the wall 2 months ago.
Any company, even the Top Dog, ignores the opposition at its peril. But Canon's DSLR roadmap has served them spectacularly well over the last 4 or 5 years - to tear it up just because of incremental improvement from a rival would be madness.

Canon will not alienate their huge existing customer base by introducing a $1000 15mp body - changes will be evolutionary not revolutionary. However much we dream, the 20D replacement will only exhibit the same degree of improvement we've seen within the D60-10D-20D progression.

[Schnauzer]

I never get into the rumor mills so this is a first . From what I have read on the net their could be minor improvements or nipping the heals of the 1DSM11 . Another week will tell for sure . I know what I would like to see done to an all ready very nice camera . I would like to have a viewfinder that I can see in the bright light , ISO in the viewfinder , I can live with the viewing screen but larger would be nice , a little better AF and less noise at higher ISO . Right now it is all speculation . If I see the things I want I will upgrade if not I have a very nice camera already .
The companies making cameras must have spys in each others camps . They always seem to know what the other guy is doing a year ahead of time . With that said I would not be surprised to see 2 new dslr s . 1 a slight improvement on the 20D and an all new camera just a little better than the D200 . If they do that I will be at the head of the line to get the all new camera .
If nothing exciting happens I will just keep working to get better with what I have .

[chris clements]

The companies making cameras must have spys in each others camps
In many cases the 'spy' is their shared sensor provider, Sony. (Canon DSLR's excepted, of course).

There's only a limited number of ways you can dress up the same chip.

[Tom W]

Ya, the 40L f/1.2 really peaked my curiosity too ;)

Me too - I'm really needing to fill that gap between 35 and 50. ;)

[lost]

In many cases the 'spy' is their shared sensor provider, Sony. (Canon DSLR's excepted, of course).

There's only a limited number of ways you can dress up the same chip.

Uhhm, I was under the impression that canon made their own sensors. It has been stated on this forum many times with no one contradicting it.


Edit: Duhhh read ALLthe message next time. " (Canon DSLR's excepted, of course)." My names not lost for no reason.

[chris clements]

I was under the impression that canon made their own sensors.
DSLR's - yes .
But don't forget that Canon are in the same boat outside the DSLR arena.
The Pro1 halved in price and has sold in single figures because, however well packaged by Canon, under the hood is the same noisy Sony chip that has hamstrung all of the bridge cameras.

[spencer87]

glad to see we've got an official forum for this now- dont have to do a search to find the good gossip ;)

[jporter12]

Getting close to the 1000 mark!

No new rumors today?

[Tom W]

Getting close to the 1000 mark!

No new rumors today?

Rumor mill's been quiet. Mostly regurgitating old rumors. 30D, 35D, 3000D, 3D, 18-55/2.8 EF-S etc.

I haven't heard the 200-400 f/4 L DO IS rumor in a while, nor the 15-60 f/4 EF-S rumor either. Perhaps these should be in the new lens rumor forum.

[dpastern]

mmm what about the newly rumoured 28-800 f2.8 DO IS lens!

:P

Dave

[Tom W]

Hot off the presses, from Fred Miranda's site, no less....

I think the title says it all for itself. I've come into information suggesting the following. Whether Canon will choose to release them all during Photokina remains unknown. However, the following is what I've found out so far.

30D: Digic 3, 10mpx

3D: Digic 3, looks similar to 5D on the outside, FF, priced between 5D and 1DS RS

1DS RS: Pellicle system, reminiscent of the 1N RS. 3/5fps custom, 10fps (with 3stop light loss), 18mpx, not built as well as the 1DS Mk2, Digic 3, priced somewhere in the $6,000+ range.

Italicized parts = not 100%

Here is a link to the film-equivalent of the upcoming 1DS RS. Go figure.

What is interesting about this piece of news is that if true, Canon has now a complete set of FF cameras, from 5D, to 3D and 1DS RS. This mimics their film series of EOS-5, EOS-3 and EOS-1 series. VERY VERY interesting. This could tempt a significant segment of film shooters to move to (more) affordable FF. The decision to retain a 30D/350XT pro-/consumer series will also bring in most of the moolah for Canon.

And before you start flaming me, my source has actually handled the 1DS RS himself. Just thought I'd share it with the larger community.


I don't write 'em, I just report 'em.

[jporter12]

Very interesting indeed. My patience is still with me however.... We'll see Monday, on at least part of that, I'm sure.

[Tom W]

Very interesting indeed. My patience is still with me however.... We'll see Monday, on at least part of that, I'm sure.

I'm much more concerned about glass than bodies right now. Too bad that there's no definitive information in that area either....

[Wazza]

I really like that new info. :)

[picture-this]

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=56962&stc=1&d=1140005374

[spencer87]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Jon]

glad to see we've got an official forum for this now- dont have to do a search to find the good gossip ;)
. . . or to avoid it!

[SuzyView]

Amen!

But love that Dummies thing. How funny is that? :)

[amtphoto]

mmm what about the newly rumoured 28-800 f2.8 DO IS lens!
Dave
Doesnt Canon has a 28-300mm? Im still looking foward to Canon release something like a 200-800 f4-5.6 (kinda like the 100-400 and 2x tcon stack). Of course it would cost around 10k.

[Alpieagle]

3D: Digic 3, looks similar to 5D on the outside, FF, priced between 5D and 1DS RS

Now that sounds great - not believing it before it's on the CPS newsletter though.

[Cathpah]

Now that sounds great - not believing it before it's on the CPS newsletter though.

might be a dumb question...probably is, but what is the "CPS newsletter" and where/how did you get it? screenshot/scan?

edit: oops, thought you had a comma in there saying "not believing it before, it's on the the CPS newsletter though."
commas sure do make a big difference.

[farrukh]

The local Canon dealer here was saying that 350d replacement is coming with the name of 355d.
Now this sounds strange to me.

[felix21685]

they are already replacing the 350D ? seems like the 20D is roughly do for an upgrade since its a year older than the XT..
hm interesting

[Citizensmith]

What date does the camera show actually start. I know its soon, I was just wondering when these rumours will finally solidify.

[Longwatcher]

What date does the camera show actually start. I know its soon, I was just wondering when these rumours will finally solidify.

The convention (PMA 2006) technically starts on 26 Feb, but related activities start as early as 6am on 24 Feb. And Canon has scheduled a press release for 21 Feb.

And Photokina 2006 starts 26 Sep?

[chris clements]

Canon has scheduled a press release for 21 Feb.

Do they synch this worldwide, or will our Antipodean members get the guff first?

[Citizensmith]

The convention (PMA 2006) technically starts on 26 Feb, but related activities start as early as 6am on 24 Feb. And Canon has scheduled a press release for 21 Feb.

And Photokina 2006 starts 26 Sep?

Thanks, PMA was the one I was wondering about. So basically February 22nd is when everyone gets the shots of the new cameras and photoshops them to start rumours about what gets released at the september show.

[Citizensmith]

Do they synch this worldwide, or will our Antipodean members get the guff first?

It doesn't get synched. It's in Florida so all announcements are based on that time zone.

[Cathpah]

this forum is really slowing down....and just days before PMA.
who woulda thunk it?

[JohnnyG]

The best change to the 20D would be that it would come with all "L" lens!!!:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

That's the only way I would ever get one.:(

[Rumjungle]

Can you blame us? 9-months and 987 posts later (and still counting), the subject is pretty much talked out. Speculation upon speculation have been announced and discussed and rehashed time and again. Perhaps due to the proximity of the official announcements, now is the calm before the storm of I KNEW ITs, I TOLD YOU SOs, and WTF?!?'s.:)

[jporter12]

I think everyone's given up on PS'ing "the new model", as they get shot down pretty quickly, in fact, some of what we've seen may be leaks, but I think they've all been shot down! Anybody with new questions get's the response "nobody know's, you'll have to wait and see!"
I agree though, that there's no need for repeating the same questions, the same answers, and the same guess of what will be released beyond the first couple hundred posts that were basically everyone's wishlist's. That was actually quite intersting, along with hearing some of the reasoning of why Canon probably won't do certain things.

Monday is going to be an interesting day for this thread, to say the least! I know reading this thread will likely be the first thing I do when I get home, if I don't check it throughout the day at work!

One more post to get us within 10 of 1000!!!! Looks like we're gonna make 1000 posts of speculation and rumors!!!!

[chris clements]

It doesn't get synched. It's in Florida so all announcements are based on that time zone.
Then it does get synched (confused- moi?).

[ijohnson]

Yeah but Canon is in Japan and I'm in that time zone so I'll be clicking refresh every 10 seconds while you are still sleeping regardless of how irrational it is.

HAHAHAHAH!! Aren't you jealous!!!!

I didn't think so.

[Citizensmith]

Then it does get synched (confused- moi?).

Depends on what you mean by that. If they make the announcement at 10.00AM in Florida that would effectively be 4.00PM London time, or 5.00AM in New Zealand (but the following day, if I'm getting my time zones correct).

So, basically it just occurs at a given time. They will not be making repeated announcements on the hour every hour for each time zone.

[Citizensmith]

Yeah but Canon is in Japan and I'm in that time zone so I'll be clicking refresh every 10 seconds while you are still sleeping regardless of how irrational it is.

HAHAHAHAH!! Aren't you jealous!!!!

I didn't think so.

Canon is a company with Headquarters in Japan but the conference they are showing stuff off at is in Florida. It all depends where the announcement comes from. If it is from the Canon HQ then you are absolutely correct. If it is from an office or representative at the conference then you'd be waiting a while.

Me, I think I'll just check here and let someone else do the mad clicking. :)

[Citizensmith]

I think everyone's given up on PS'ing "the new model", as they get shot down pretty quickly,

I don't know about that, I just finished making some upgrades to Pekka's original artwork. :)

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=138610

[Citizensmith]

Oh yeah, and 5 posts till we hit 1000. Who wants to push it over the edge.

And it better be with decent info, not complete wastes of space like this one. :)

[DDA]

Come on guys! A little effort to get to the 1000 mark! :D

Was this post useful??? mmmmmhhhhhhhh... I don't think so! SORRY!! :o

[In2Photos]

We would have hit 1000 already but the threads stopped being merged. I think it was sabotage by the mods.;)

[DDA]

well, it seems we need a little bit of help

[DDA]

Oh yeah, and 5 posts till we hit 1000. Who wants to push it over the edge.

And it better be with decent info, not complete wastes of space like this one. :)

I think I'll do it

[DDA]

So, for the 1000th post, finally the truth. Canon will announce that they stop making digital cameras and go back to film. A whole new line of film SLRs will be presented :lol:

PS. With a little effort, we could even get to the 50'000 views!!!!!

[In2Photos]

So, for the 1000th post, finally the truth. Canon will announce that they stop making digital cameras and go back to film. A whole new line of film SLRs will be presented :lol:

PS. With a little effort, we could even get to the 50'000 views!!!!!

Cheesy way to do it but I guess it worked.

EDIT: Well I have the 1000 reply.

[JBF]

Dang it, I wanted to be the 1000th post, I guess I just don't type fast enough. I heard a rumor that CANON was going to come out with a new format for its camera's. It's radical I know but here she goe's. You will actually open the back of this camera and put in a roll of something called "film" (I'm sorry but I just can't hold back my enthusiasm) A single roll will be like $3-6. Then you will take the film to a One Hour Kiosk and they will develop those into pictures. CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS!! You will be able to get 4x6's 5x7's or 8x10's. I myself will get all three. This is going to set Nikon back years, I hear they are doing digital (hahahahaha) I predict that won't last. Anyway, I guess we will know in a few days what Canon is going to do. The film thing sounds awesome! What will they think of next?

[DDA]

Dang it, I wanted to be the 1000th post, I guess I just don't type fast enough. I heard a rumor that CANON was going to come out with a new format for its camera's. It's radical I know but here she goe's. You will actually open the back of this camera and put in a roll of something called "film" (I'm sorry but I just can't hold back my enthusiasm) A single roll will be like $3-6. Then you will take the film to a One Hour Kiosk and they will develop those into pictures. CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS!! You will be able to get 4x6's 5x7's or 8x10's. I myself will get all three. This is going to set Nikon back years, I hear they are doing digital (hahahahaha) I predict that won't last. Anyway, I guess we will know in a few days what Canon is going to do. The film thing sounds awesome! What will they think of next?

it seems that our sources hint in the same direction ;-)

[Citizensmith]

it seems that our sources hint in the same direction ;-)

If that new fangled film idea takes off maybe they could later try something like a smaller, easy load cartridge. Maybe one that even lets you take photos in a choice of formats. Some kind of Advanced Photography System. I'm sure it would sell amazingly well.

[Doom1701e]

APS SUCKS!!!

[jlacoy82]

A whole roll of film sounds confusing, I'd rather just load a single 4x5" sheet of film, one at a time into my camera, all while using a small glass magnifier to check the focus on the composure. SOOOO much easier than digital. :D

[Tom W]

Anyone familiar with London Camera Exchange? According to one DPRumour poster, there is an advert for a 30D. Quote from the advert is "new EOS Digital SLRs coming in March 06, call for details..."

Just reporting what I've seen....

[JaertX]

Hmmm...aren't we due for someone to post a 35D picture again?

[Citizensmith]

Hmmm...aren't we due for someone to post a 35D picture again?

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=138610

The 35D pictures are just so last week. :)

[jporter12]

I don't know about that, I just finished making some upgrades to Pekka's original artwork. :)

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=138610

I love it! It's POTN enabled! ;) I take it that's on a wireless broadband connection?

[Jimrob]

Just been for a walk up town on my lunch, the advert for London Camera Exchange (reasonable UK company, with dozen or so branches, including one by me!) and the picture of the 30D was very poor, very dark, no detail, nothing like any of the 'real' pictures of current models.
It certainly is not am official photo.

As soon as I know the specs / price, it is time for my 1st SLR, either 20D or the new one, ready to move on from my G5.

[Rumjungle]

I truly am amazed that Canon has been so tight lipped. No mention of anything on their websites and none of their dealers have reported anything solid or have production samples. Are they this good? Or perhaps there's nothing to report?:eek:

[roanjohn]

Just been for a walk up town on my lunch, the advert for London Camera Exchange (reasonable UK company, with dozen or so branches, including one by me!) and the picture of the 30D was very poor, very dark, no detail, nothing like any of the 'real' pictures of current models.
It certainly is not am official photo.

As soon as I know the specs / price, it is time for my 1st SLR, either 20D or the new one, ready to move on from my G5.

:confused: :confused: HUH>>? You saw a pic of the 30D???

Ro1

[sapearl]

Could be something really significant (or not), or maybe they've just tightened their security better than in the past.

Corporations are getting more and more tight-lipped and draconian with their intellectual property agreements and proprietary information disclosure statements with employees. It's a lot easier to lose your job these days than before for breaching a secret. Maybe employees are being more discrete.

"Loose Lips Sink Ships!"

I truly am amazed that Canon has been so tight lipped. No mention of anything on their websites and none of their dealers have reported anything solid or have production samples. Are they this good? Or perhaps there's nothing to report?:eek:

[Jimrob]

:confused: :confused: HUH>>? You saw a pic of the 30D???

Ro1


Yes, the advert has a pic, but it doesnt look like an offical one.

[Rumjungle]

Could be something really significant (or not), or maybe they've just tightened their security better than in the past.

Corporations are getting more and more tight-lipped and draconian with their intellectual property agreements and proprietary information disclosure statements with employees. It's a lot easier to lose your job these days than before for breaching a secret. Maybe employees are being more discrete.

"Loose Lips Sink Ships!"

If this is the case, then I applaud them. I expected much looser lips than this. If I worked for Canon marketing...well, let's just say this thread wouldn't have reached 1000 posts.:lol:

[DDA]

If this is the case, then I applaud them. I expected much looser lips than this. If I worked for Canon marketing...well, let's just say this thread wouldn't have reached 1000 posts.:lol:

Well, that's maybe why you don't work for Canon marketing :rolleyes: :o

[sapearl]

Nah..... I'll bet they love seeing us generate our own rabid hype for their products. Cheapest advertising they could ever get. Walk into the crowded hall, plant a few initial rumors, whip up the populace. It's a tried and true tactic that politicians, marketing managers and carny huksters know quite well. :)

If this is the case, then I applaud them. I expected much looser lips than this. If I worked for Canon marketing...well, let's just say this thread wouldn't have reached 1000 posts.:lol:

[Rumjungle]

My point exactly. I'm a generous kind of a guy and I like to share...especially when I see a thread of x-thousand people wishing/hoping/wondering about the next DSLR for 9 months. I'd be a terrible marketing guy...and spy for that matter.;)

[sapearl]

I embrace your sentiment. I've been as hyped and wishful as the next guy.

My point exactly. I'm a generous kind of a guy and I like to share...especially when I see a thread of x-thousand people wishing/hoping/wondering about the next DSLR for 9 months. I'd be a terrible marketing guy...and spy for that matter.;)

[hemuni]

I love this thread, makes me remember, as a child, the exitement and how hard it was to wait for christmas, only this year christmas is on the 21. :D

[felix21685]

haha hemuni i like ur signature lol

[hemuni]

haha hemuni i like ur signature lol

yeah, i wish!

[roanjohn]

The leaks are starting to surface..........!!!

30D, 17-55 EF-S (2.8???) and a new 85 mm lens.........(L???).

............Ro1...............

[pyterps]

Where did you see the leaks?????

[sapearl]

Almost sounds like the same circular threads getting rehashed..... most likely by ourselves.

The leaks are starting to surface..........!!!

30D, 17-55 EF-S (2.8???) and a new 85 mm lens.........(L???).

............Ro1...............

[In2Photos]

Where did you see the leaks?????

I saw these at FM about an hour ago, but who is to say they are leaks and not rumors.

[Citizensmith]

Yeah, at this stage we are so close to the official release that I really couldn't care less about any more rumours/leaks. A lot of it likely is the same crap thats been recycled for a while. I want to see listings on the Canon websites and photos from the show. Not bad photoshop jobs and blind guess work based on a posting from some guy who heard something from somebody that drive past a camera shop and had a vision.

The rumour threads are entertaining, sure, but I'm not going to get excited about a leak/rumour when I'll see the real thing in about 3 days. :)

[roanjohn]

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=17226403

ENJOY!!!

[puttick]

300 Euro rebate on the 5D, now you're talking. My chequebook is ready.
Nigel

[Alpieagle]

17-55 and 85(L)? upgrade?

Why would Canon not add designations like 'L' or apertures of new lenses???

As already mentioned, there even are typos in the "new" products list...
Looks quite fake to me.

Wait and see... only 3 days to go.

[Tom W]

For your perusal, while it lasts. Some of the links on the page work. No details or images that I can find.

http://213.4.104.210/showtime/live/index.html

[JaertX]

Could be something really significant (or not), or maybe they've just tightened their security better than in the past.

Corporations are getting more and more tight-lipped and draconian with their intellectual property agreements and proprietary information disclosure statements with employees. It's a lot easier to lose your job these days than before for breaching a secret. Maybe employees are being more discrete.

"Loose Lips Sink Ships!"

heh heh...you said draconian...heh heh heh...

[Tom W]

And then there's this (again with no guarantee of authenticity): :)

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/3619/lce1uw.jpg

[CyberDyneSystems]

The leaks are starting to surface..........!!!

30D, 17-55 EF-S (2.8???)

............Ro1...............

That looks remarkably like what somone guessed at in June of 2005...

[Cathpah]

why the hell would they release a EF-S 17-55 when the kit lens is 18-55. just for a larger aperture? Seems a bit redundant to me, unless they made it an EF lens which would work with a full frame sensor.....weird

[Alpieagle]

Again, why would Canon announce "new lenses" without designations like L or apertures listed?

Still saying it's fake... maybe I just don't want to believe it though.

[stevefossimages]

Just downloaded the updated Camera Raw plug-in and DNG 3.3 from the Adobe site. And under the Camera Raw update, they list, among the cameras the update includes, drum roll please . . . . the 20Da. Now, is this a 20D I haven't heard of, or is it what we've all been waiting for Canon to announce?

[roanjohn]

Just downloaded the updated Camera Raw plug-in and DNG 3.3 from the Adobe site. And under the Camera Raw update, they list, among the cameras the update includes, drum roll please . . . . the 20Da. Now, is this a 20D I haven't heard of, or is it what we've all been waiting for Canon to announce?


http://www.dpreview.com/news/0506/05060101canon20da.asp

Ro1

[stevefossimages]

Thanks roanjohn. And on another note, the RAW plug-in I just downloaded, which includes the 5D and MarkIIN, isn't backward compatible to Photoshop versions before CS2. I have CS. So if I want to shoot RAW and use photoshop to process those cameras' images, I'll have to upgrade! :mad:

[JBF]

The 20Da was released about 3-5 months after the 20D. It is for astronomy. Has a filter over the sensor for better night shooting. It is not a new upcoming camera. I would think the 20Da would still be produced since it is a specialty camera. However, I have been wrong several times in my life, this could be the third time.

Just downloaded the updated Camera Raw plug-in and DNG 3.3 from the Adobe site. And under the Camera Raw update, they list, among the cameras the update includes, drum roll please . . . . the 20Da. Now, is this a 20D I haven't heard of, or is it what we've all been waiting for Canon to announce?

[hemuni]

...I have been wrong several times in my life, this could be the third time.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

[I Simonius]

Is it Tuesday yet?

[EOSAddict]

Have patience my good man :)

I say, is it Tuesday yet ?

[chris clements]

Since Tuesday is 'launch', surely Monday will be 'oops, didn't mean to put that page up temporarily on the Canon website' day.

[jerrythesnake]

i dont think there will be much of an upgrade to 20d (if any) cos surely if anything good was coming out there would have been a few leaks way before now!

[I Simonius]

i dont think there will be much of an upgrade to 20d (if any) cos surely if anything good was coming out there would have been a few leaks way before now!

yes strange - that unless the dreadful ones that have been going round actually ARE the leaks!:(

[condyk]

So if I want to shoot RAW and use photoshop to process those cameras' images, I'll have to upgrade! :mad:

I was in the same camp but then just decided to go over to RawShooter Premium which I much prefer and it does a great job ... better AFAIC.

[hemuni]

I second that, the workflow of this program is also top notch.

[spencer87]

However, I have been wrong several times in my life, this could be the third time.

lol :lol:

[Citizensmith]

yes strange - that unless the dreadful ones that have been going round actually ARE the leaks!:(

Yeah somewhere there is a Canon marketing exec all pleased with themself after they came up with the idea of starting to do press releases as blurry photos with obvious PS artifacts. We all spend our time saying "Hey dumbass its a PS job" and then it turns out the 1701D (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=138610) actually IS the new camera.