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sharksbite
17th of January 2006 (Tue), 01:31
just wondering when i'll be able to post comment on that elite section? :cool:

saravrose
17th of January 2006 (Tue), 02:02
I think it's either 500 or 1,000 posts... Pekka's call, there's a couple of threads about it... Sari.

defordphoto
17th of January 2006 (Tue), 05:03
just wondering when i'll be able to post comment on that elite section? :cool:

500 posts AND three months membership.

michael88
17th of January 2006 (Tue), 05:30
I think you can also PM Pekka asking for admission.

TongChen
17th of January 2006 (Tue), 16:59
Why anybody want post there? Never there any helpful advise or true critic. As long as lady naked everything just right, nobody complain.

Jaymz
17th of January 2006 (Tue), 18:12
Why anybody want post there? Never there any helpful advise or true critic. As long as lady naked everything just right, nobody complain.

Not everyone that posts in the glamour & nude section wants advice or critique, some just want to share their photo.

adam*
18th of January 2006 (Wed), 11:03
Haha tongchen, so far off!

blue_max
18th of January 2006 (Wed), 12:28
Probably as well that people are required to show at least a passing interest in photograhy.
However, it is by no means pornography. I for one saw an image that I can't get out of my head. It goes back a few months and although shows a breast, is not in the least top-shelf. I keep meaning to try and find it again. It's more like love. Why that shot, why that particular girl, but it was a stunning image. I'll bet that if you met the girl, you would barely notice her, but that's the power of a great photograph.

Graham

CyberDyneSystems
18th of January 2006 (Wed), 12:45
Details on pre-requisites can be found at the top of the forum itself;

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=91084

You can PM Pekka or myself for acces to this forum...

But we grant "early access" ahead of the minimum requirements for those with images to share and either a background in the subject or an eagerness to learn ...

We don't tend to grant early access solely for the porpuse of allowing comments.

So if you ever have something to share drop us a PM.
Otherwise you'll get acces automatically once the required time and posts have passed. :)

sharksbite
18th of January 2006 (Wed), 17:40
ooops! i usualy check before asking for help, sorry i missed the obvious! :oops:
anyway, i'd rather wait til i hit 500 posts and 3 month membership. ability to comment in G&N will be like a present to me for being on the forum that long. thanks for the info!

TongChen
18th of January 2006 (Wed), 22:47
Haha tongchen, so far off!

No. Not off too far. You get better helpful criticism in People section and in Critique than in Glamour and Nude.

"Oh. It so lovely. Oh, lighting so good..." when really basic potrait light technique completely miss. Last I look there all I see is same light technique from same photographers over and over again. One miodel look like she standing in front of steel furnace but no one notice harsh light. It may be matter of taste and style but you break tradition when you know tradition.

But i do not show my nude in forum. Pointless for me. Maybe a matter of style commentation that i do not understand, like cultural thing. People try to save face, but save face not good for learn.

If I post my work I may expect commentation which show some knowledge, not words that flatter, and maybe words to describe technique. I never see any there.

Excuse if offend, but I say how I feel.

adam*
19th of January 2006 (Thu), 15:38
Sure tongchen, thats what the forums are for.. There are some specialists in G+N such as charlesu who offer insights into lighting, techniques and other general information about shots.. its not just useless comments.

TongChen
19th of January 2006 (Thu), 17:50
This discussion become funny and funnier. Look at thread name "Another Emi." Image have major flaw and every boddy say how loverly it is and how pretty her breast but nobody say anything about major problem with lighting that make woman look like caved in on side of head.

Can i have to laugh in this thread not in Nudies and Glamour?

Ha! maybe I not experence to laugh.

Close mind love close mouth so i do not say more about nudie thing.

Jaymz
19th of January 2006 (Thu), 19:18
This discussion become funny and funnier. Look at thread name "Another Emi." Image have major flaw and every boddy say how loverly it is and how pretty her breast but nobody say anything about major problem with lighting that make woman look like caved in on side of head.

Can i have to laugh in this thread not in Nudies and Glamour?

Ha! maybe I not experence to laugh.

Close mind love close mouth so i do not say more about nudie thing.

To you that may be a problem with that image, how do you know thats not how Charlesu intended it to look? Where is are the rules that define whats a problem and whats not. Not everyone sees the same "problems" or may even think they are problems. For me photography is an art, open to interpretation by each individual. Most will value your critique or opinion if its given in a constructive manner.

For you to make a blanket statement, "Never there any helpful advise or true critic", about the members who post there is very closed minded opinion.

Just my two cents, if worth even that much. :p

lostdoggy
19th of January 2006 (Thu), 20:05
Maybe it is a cultural difference that TongChen is having. Maybe he just doesn't know how to be discreet on his view. Maybe he just is just so good, no so excellent that he is above us all here. Whatever the reason TongChen has it is his reason to have so long as he plays by the rule. Maybe one day he'll show his color and post a few Glam&Nude for us to C&C and then maybe we will understand how great his work is and then we will know the rules he is talking about.

RandyMN
19th of January 2006 (Thu), 20:16
I hate to say it but TongChen does have some valid points! Funny, but still valid. At the risk of having most of you ridicule me, I tend to agree with him to a limit.

Funniest thing about it is when you do look at the amount that people look at the photo's in this forum, the glamour and nude hits the peak on just about every posting that involves a nude.

Hey, I'm just calling the shots as I see them... I would like to see more technique and how they achieved the results as opposed to just posting for those who choose to admire.

CyberDyneSystems
19th of January 2006 (Thu), 20:26
Just as a general little tidbit to add to this interesting new direction the thread has taken....

Unless someone posts an image in the "critique" forum,. OR they specifically ASK for input and critique in a thread,. they are posting to share, not necesarily asking for anything in return.

Some people even get really bent out of shape when critique is offered where none was asked.

This is a difference here from many other forums,. the fact that merely posting an image does NOT imply a request for critique, so I can see how this could be confusing.

Whether this factoid has any bearing on the current discussion I leave to the reader to decide.

RandyMN
19th of January 2006 (Thu), 20:31
CyberDyne... You do your job well and I like the point you made as it related very clearly to the entire change of direction this post was going.

But it could have been fun! I got a good laugh while still understanding both sides.

Personally, I don't spend a lot of time in that section because no one ever explains what the purpose was for the photo and why they took it the way they did. What makes it art as opposed to just a nude covering certain parts. The shots are great, but what made them great?

Sure, some models you would not recognise as the shots make them look so good. But the models look so perfect and those type of models don't come by every day.

TongChen
19th of January 2006 (Thu), 22:00
This discussion become funny and funnier. Look at thread name "Another Emi." Image have major flaw and every boddy say how loverly it is and how pretty her breast but nobody say anything about major problem with lighting that make woman look like caved in on side of head.

Can i have to laugh in this thread not in Nudies and Glamour?

Ha! maybe I not experence to laugh.

Close mind love close mouth so i do not say more about nudie thing.

;)

RandyMN
19th of January 2006 (Thu), 22:03
TongChen just quoted himself? I do not know, maybe he laugh at me.

TongChen
19th of January 2006 (Thu), 22:04
Just as a general little tidbit to add to this interesting new direction the thread has taken....

Unless someone posts an image in the "critique" forum,. OR they specifically ASK for input and critique in a thread,. they are posting to share, not necesarily asking for anything in return.

Some people even get really bent out of shape when critique is offered where none was asked.

This is a difference here from many other forums,. the fact that merely posting an image does NOT imply a request for critique, so I can see how this could be confusing.

Whether this factoid has any bearing on the current discussion I leave to the reader to decide.

Close mind love close mouth so I say no more, okay, Cyber Dime? ;)

RandyMN
19th of January 2006 (Thu), 22:16
I think my point has been lost also so one has to ask... What's the point? Who's point? I don't know, was there a point to be made here?

RandyMN
19th of January 2006 (Thu), 22:22
No disrespect. I laugh at situation, not you sir. One person ask when he can post comment in Glamour and Nudely. He can not go there to post about it. He have to wait to have so many posts.

But now it seem that nobody can comment about it outside the forum, or inside, so what use having erligibility requirement for posting comment about Nudely and Glamour?

And strange thing that someone get twisty over comment question remark outside that forum.

I think Emperor Cyber Dime need new clothes. Christmas three weeks ago! ;)

You do make me laugh! be careful who you pick on though as Empire, oops "Emperor" Cyber Dime might take this personally.

I know my point is moot as too much other entertainment is going on here. My wife will kill me if she she's her face in this thread. Can I delete them now?

CyberDyneSystems
19th of January 2006 (Thu), 22:43
FYI,
There was no discouragement from me,. honestly I thought I was subtly defending your position to an extent.. attempting to clear up any confusion as well. You seemed to be asking why there was not more hard hitting critique in the glamour forum,. I am merely theorizing that perhaps it isn't being asked for.

Please don't take my posting in a thread as a form of discouragement,. I just like to post here too.

Oh well,...

saravrose
19th of January 2006 (Thu), 22:51
its a matter of taste tongchen. And CDS is right when he says that unless you specifically ask for a critique when you post in the glamour and nude or any other place it is just photo sharing. as for your very generalized critizisms perhaps you should wait for your '500' posts or ask pekka or CDS for access so you can comment and post your own work and ask for the kind of critique you find lacking. I doubt you'll be dissapointed. .........Sari.

RandyMN
19th of January 2006 (Thu), 22:58
TongChen, I love hearing your opinions and I can't help notice how good your spelling is compared to the english language. Where are you from? You make me laugh but you spell so perfectly for a person that speaks so foreign. My spelling is actually worse than yours.

TongChen
19th of January 2006 (Thu), 22:58
FYI,
,. honestly I thought I was subtly defending your position to an extent.. attempting to clear up any confusion as well.


I see "SUBTLY" and think something below. Dictionary tell me subtly mean "in a way that is difficult to detect."

Yes. It was very subtly.

And now I am coing to become subtly and quit talking about this. I get mad and maybe say things wrong. So my mouth and fingers in ziplock bag now.

Over out.;)

RandyMN
19th of January 2006 (Thu), 23:09
I see "SUBTLY" and think something below. Dictionary tell me subtly mean "in a way that is difficult to detect."

Yes. It was very subtly.

And now I am going to become subtly and quit talking about this. I get mad and maybe say things wrong. So my mouth and fingers in ziplock bag now.

Over out.;)

And as much as I hate to say it you appear to be one who is not who they claim to be.

Zip lock bag seem too American to me. Sorry, It just seems as funny as you talk and as much as I agree with you, linguistics you show seem too american.

I apologize for questioning your background but for too many reasons you sound like someone just playing with us. I see no sincerity in what you have said and your grammer seems fake.

Oh ****! So if I'm wrong, sue me... But that is the impression I have gotten from you.

saravrose
19th of January 2006 (Thu), 23:44
And as much as I hate to say it you appear to be one who is not who they claim to be.

Zip lock bag seem too American to me. Sorry, It just seems as funny as you talk and as much as I agree with you, linguistics you show seem too american.

I apologize for questioning your background but for too many reasons you sound like someone just playing with us. I see no sincerity in what you have said and your grammer seems fake.

Oh ****! So if I'm wrong, sue me... But that is the impression I have gotten from you.
I was wondering the same thing. his grammer doesn't match his linguistics very well. Don't get me wrong, i'm aware that my accent sometimes shows up in the way I type.. it's not a critisizm... just curious.

Jaymz
19th of January 2006 (Thu), 23:48
And as much as I hate to say it you appear to be one who is not who they claim to be.

Zip lock bag seem too American to me. Sorry, It just seems as funny as you talk and as much as I agree with you, linguistics you show seem too american.

I apologize for questioning your background but for too many reasons you sound like someone just playing with us. I see no sincerity in what you have said and your grammer seems fake.

Oh ****! So if I'm wrong, sue me... But that is the impression I have gotten from you.

This sparked an interest so I went looking at prior posts. The english used in prior posts seems pretty good to me.

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1064439#post1064439

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1012333#post1012333

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1012275#post1012275

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1011774#post1011774

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1012305#post1012305

TongChen
20th of January 2006 (Fri), 00:00
I live in America over twenty year. So what problem? You think I never use zip lock bag? I make lunches every day.

Sorry you dont like way i write. English not so great. In America every boddy from somewhere ealse. Or grand parrents or great grand parrents.

And I am American as much as any boddy from Boise. Maybe you want me bend waist and keep face low.

This turn ugly. Not worth a fight. :evil:

My English bad at night. It very late and tired.

Another thing. Messages come too fast for me to write good grammar. (I spelled GRAMMAR right, no boddy ealse did. So maybe people who spell wrong not who they say they are. Is that how?).

RandyMN
20th of January 2006 (Fri), 00:09
Sorry Tong, I enjoyed your views and agree with them, I even thought you were funny, just sorry that you apparently aren't who you claim to be. I feel like I wasted my points of view in agreeing with someone who I should not have taken sides with. I would delete my pictures as they seem pointless, but maybe somewhere in this thread a point was made.

Over-out

Ballen Photo
20th of January 2006 (Fri), 00:10
I live in America over twenty year. So what problem? You think I never use zip lock bag? I make lunches every day.

Sorry you dont like way i write. English not so great. In America every boddy from somewhere ealse. Or grand parrents or great grand parrents.

And I am American as much as any boddy from Boise. Maybe you want me bend waist and keep face low.

This turn ugly. Not worth a fight. :evil:With all due respect Mr Chen, I have to wonder just how you know what goes on in the G&N forum if you dont have access yourself, considering you're lacking the required post count as well as membership time.
I suspect there is more to you than meets the eye. ;)
-Bruce

saravrose
20th of January 2006 (Fri), 01:14
I live in America over twenty year. So what problem? You think I never use zip lock bag? I make lunches every day.

Sorry you dont like way i write. English not so great. In America every boddy from somewhere ealse. Or grand parrents or great grand parrents.

And I am American as much as any boddy from Boise. Maybe you want me bend waist and keep face low.

This turn ugly. Not worth a fight. :evil:

My English bad at night. It very late and tired.

Another thing. Messages come too fast for me to write good grammar. (I spelled GRAMMAR right, no boddy ealse did. So maybe people who spell wrong not who they say they are. Is that how?).
okay, I do believe that I stated that I wasn't critisizing you. hypersensitivity is exhausing no matter where your from. and for the record I may be from Boise, but i'm only second generation in this country. My language skills are perfect, but i'm often accused of not being American enough myself I would never inturn do that to somebody else, regardless of what you interpreted me saying. So, one more time let me clarify I wasn't critisizing you, merely stating a curiosity. I'm very sorry if I offended you.

RandyMN
20th of January 2006 (Fri), 02:16
Hey, I enjoyed Mr Chen. Lots of personality and I like his views. Funny, but if not real then who's laughing at who? I believed in him enough to take sides but in the end there become no point to this thread. I tried to make a point agreeable to his, but as the point became lost, there was no one legimate enough to back it up other than myself. Hopefully someone listened beyond the bull**** and actually saw the reasoning behind what both he and I agreed on. My only hope is that somehow the point was not wasted.

RandyMN
20th of January 2006 (Fri), 02:19
And the point is????

We'll let you figure that one out.

Ballen Photo
20th of January 2006 (Fri), 09:56
Why you are so suspicious?Just my analytical nature. ;)
-Bruce

RossW
20th of January 2006 (Fri), 22:32
Whats the problem? Why you are so suspicious?

I'm not sure ladies and gents, but I think we may be in the presence of a genius. Google the text on his (her?) avatar.

"member/troll" ?? LOL :lol:

saravrose
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 00:33
Hey, I enjoyed Mr Chen. Lots of personality and I like his views. Funny, but if not real then who's laughing at who? I believed in him enough to take sides but in the end there become no point to this thread. I tried to make a point agreeable to his, but as the point became lost, there was no one legimate enough to back it up other than myself. Hopefully someone listened beyond the bull**** and actually saw the reasoning behind what both he and I agreed on. My only hope is that somehow the point was not wasted.
Yes, somewhere within the misconceptions I understood the opinion you were striving to convey. Sari.

saravrose
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 12:50
Changing avatar is harass. Somebody is harass me. Who ? I want to know.


"# You will not "stalk" or otherwise harass other members."
I didn't know that other people can change your avatar... Yours doesn't seem to be that big of a deal???? change it back if you don't like it... Sari.

wrphhi
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 13:01
I suspect that her concern is over the member designation as "member/troll" rather than the Avatar.

saravrose
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 13:03
yeah, I noticed that later... It would suck to be considered a troll that's for sure. I wonder if there's anything he/she can do about it?? Sari.

saravrose
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 14:10
I can keep face low short time and I quit laughing when no modelraters answer my pm. They remove posts but they look other way at compplaint.

Board full of modelraters but no return PM. Who runs board?

SHAME ON ALL OF THEM.

I will find out who. I have last haha you watch.
ummm... Where to start. Perhaps, just perhaps you should attempt to give folks the benefit of the doubt. there are a lot of people who work very hard to keep this forum going and to keep it a friendly place to learn and share. Give them some credit, there are actual people behind this website! As to who is going to have the last laugh... I personally think that if you find yourself banned you maybe laughing but nobody's going to know about it. As to your avatar getting changed to troll. Maybe you should consider that somebody thought you deserved it.

saravrose
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 14:12
ooppss. that wasn't very friendly. sorry if I sounded harsh or if anything I said was off base.. Sari.

condyk
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 14:14
TongChen is fun ... I mainly agree with his/her glam/nudie oriented critique to be honest. There is more to him/her than may meet the eye and he/she is most certainly taking the p*ss. I love his/her ModelRaters - genius.

Ronald S. Jr.
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 14:38
TongChen has sent me a few pretty rude PM's. That's fine to agree with what she says, but I'd govern my tongue if I were her. That kind of behaviour will get you knocked out of this forum pretty quick.

Ronald S. Jr.
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 14:39
Who runs board?

Pekka runs the forum. His name is in the section I mentioned in our pm conversation.

saravrose
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 15:14
TongChen has sent me a few pretty rude PM's. That's fine to agree with what she says, but I'd govern my tongue if I were her. That kind of behaviour will get you knocked out of this forum pretty quick.
Good point Ron, nobody comes here to be insulted or treated poorly. Manners exist everywhere. They shouldn't be turned off because you're online. .....Sari.

Jaymz
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 15:29
Just curious, Tongchen, what does the oriental symbol mean, on your avatar image? and what does the text below that say? I know what it looks like it says to me but I wanted to task first before I make myself look like an idiot :)

Moppie
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 15:43
I know what it looks like it says to me but I wanted to task first before I make myself look like an idiot :)



If it says what I think it says, then it is truely sad and pathetic, assuming of course it is who it says what I think it is.


It always amazes me that people with so much talent, knowledge, and a love of helping others can become so closed and ignorant, and effectivily militant just because they don't agree with someone elses opinion. :(

This would be the 3 or 4th time Iv seen it happen on this scale in the last few years, the first time it destroyed a whole forum as it was a mod who went off the rails after being made an Admin. This time I think the individual is a bit better controlled by the mods here.
It is still tough haveing to deal with someone like this, especialy when in the past they were such a highly valued member.

tommykjensen
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 15:46
If it says what I think it says, then it is truely sad and pathetic, assuming of course it is who it says what I think it is.


Hint: http://photography-on-the.net/forum/member.php?u=46078

saravrose
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 15:46
If it says what I think it says, then it is truely sad and pathetic, assuming of course it is who it says what I think it is.


It always amazes me that people with so much talent, knowledge, and a love of helping others can become so closed and ignorant, and effectivily militant just because they don't agree with someone elses opinion. :(

This would be the 3 or 4th time Iv seen it happen on this scale in the last few years, the first time it destroyed a whole forum as it was a mod who went off the rails after being made an Admin. This time I think the individual is a bit better controlled by the mods here.
It is still tough haveing to deal with someone like this, especialy when in the past they were such a highly valued member.
now i'm curious, what does his/her avatar say??

RandyMN
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 15:48
Just curious, Tongchen, what does the oriental symbol mean, on your avatar image? and what does the text below that say? I know what it looks like it says to me but I wanted to task first before I make myself look like an idiot :)

I've been sort of foolish here so don't worry about looking like an idiot, and sorry TongChen for assuming you were a man. I do read but that line where you made that comment about my misconception just slipped past me.

The troll means that Administrators feel TongChen is a member but posts to get reactions from others. I'm not sure about the symbol. I don't know even half the story so I'll just let my open mind make closed mouth. From looking at other posts going on at the same time I think that's being pretty opened minded because it's getting to a point where banning is looking like a good next step.

It's too bad because I do like TongChen. Anyone put in this situation would normally try to remedy it as opposed to adding more fuel to the fire.

saravrose
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 15:48
Hint: http://photography-on-the.net/forum/member.php?u=46078
I haven't been around very long, who is 'bloo dog'??

tommykjensen
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 15:51
I haven't been around very long, who is 'bloo dog'??

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/member.php?u=19478

Moppie
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 15:51
Well at least he hasn't lost his ablity to entertain :D


But I really thought a man of his experiance would be more mature.
Im just glad I don't have to deal with :)

condyk
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 15:52
This would be the 3 or 4th time Iv seen it happen on this scale in the last few years, the first time it destroyed a whole forum as it was a mod who went off the rails after being made an Admin.

:lol: :lol: :lol: I think this is called over-exaggeration. But the exciting tale about an 'off the rails' Mod with power to destroy sound like the plot of a James Bond movie ... and where is Belmondo these days anyway?

saravrose
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 15:54
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/member.php?u=19478
okay, I get it. thanks.... sari.

Moppie
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 16:01
:lol: :lol: :lol: I think this is called over-exaggeration.


;)



As for the mod with the power to destroy a forum, well once upon a time a young guy living in the Carribean bought himself a Used Japanese Honda Civic, he loved it so much that he decieded to start a little online comunitiy so other Honda owners could talk about thier passion...........


I think thats enough for now.
Look out for an exciting Part II next week, featureing the OOTF (owner of the forum) the OM (old moderator) the NM (new moderator) and the TWBM (the Troll who became a moderator)

Blue Deuce
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 16:02
I believe he was an antagonist who was at one point a respected and insightful member. He made some unflattering remarks and altered some shots in the Glamour section. A bright mind who cant seem to walk down the right path.

But as usual those who think they are smarter then the rest of us usually outsmart themselves in the end.

I know if I lived in a foreign country for 20 years as the troll has said he has my mastery of the language would be alot better then his is of english. Mr. Troll, please enter some remedial classes in your local community college.

Jaymz
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 16:10
If Tongchen is Bloo Dog I suspect he/she will be banned again, this is only based off a post of Pekka's here. http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=112336&page=3

neil_r
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 16:11
I know if I lived in a foreign country for 20 years as the troll has said he has my mastery of the language would be alot better then his is of english.

Yours perhaps, but that would not be true for many ;)

Hello Mr Boo how are the weddings going ;)

This has brightened up a dull Saturday night. Many thanks guys:lol:

N

Jon
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 16:22
... and where is Belmondo these days anyway?
El Belmondo and his wife of 44 years (as of last Thursday) are off celebrating said anniversary. But as another (transplanted) Californian has been heard to say "Ayle Be Back!"

PacAce
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 16:46
I believe he was an antagonist who was at one point a respected and insightful member. He made some unflattering remarks and altered some shots in the Glamour section. A bright mind who cant seem to walk down the right path.

But as usual those who think they are smarter then the rest of us usually outsmart themselves in the end.

I know if I lived in a foreign country for 20 years as the troll has said he has my mastery of the language would be alot better then his is of english. Mr. Troll, please enter some remedial classes in your local community college.
One just has to wonder how someone who created posts in perfectly good English only a couple of weeks ago, such as those below:


Thats what Scotland looks like most of the time, no? Ireland the same. I get sunburn in London when I go for visit, tho.

There's a saying: If you think everything you do stinks, check your shoes. You may not be one at fault.

and


WuWei, the gas meter is a knockout. Straight solarization doesn't usually impress too many people (probably because they've never done it in a dark room -- or never had good results). As stated earlier, this pic has so much going for it. Great balance, interesting color manipulation, interesting composition. And all that from a rusty gas meter.

In other word: nice.



..is, all of a sudden, in desperate need of an English remedial class at a local community college. :confused:

Wazza
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 17:03
This topic is all so amusing.

If it truly is this person, hello, I'm a fan of your work... ;)

Sorry, what was this topic about ? Glamour? Mm

Let's hope the mods can sort this out in a fair way. :confused:

RandyMN
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 17:06
TongChen, did mods change your signature also? I would assume that for you do do that would be sort of arrogant. And I am not trying to pick on you at all... Just trying to decypher between what the true facts are.

RandyMN
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 17:18
And from my perception, it appears as though if you are who everyone seems to think you are, then you are a legend that went wrong. I don't know of any work you did, and I don't even know who any aliases are that are being referred to here.

But if you are good at what you do, then why waste time playing with us? Just come back and show us because I am always looking for a mentor.

I'm not sure what "This Person"
is referring to. But if you are that person it seems like you have both respect and a sort of following that shows you to be the instigator of many problems within this forum.

So I am curious why you choose the route you do to express your opinions.

Maureen Souza
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 17:23
IMHO, Bloo has never been up front with the members here on the forum. He's very creative but his Chinese accent stinks.

Blue Deuce
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 17:25
I say let the dog/troll stay on a short leash and if he strays kick him to the curb.

RandyMN
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 17:31
I guess mr/ms/mrs TongChen whoever this person might be simply lacks respect from the moderators. I can't imagine what happened but it must of been one hell of a party!

It appears all the senior members have the same opinion, so I have to come to the conclusion that this Bloo person created a lot of problems.

I just haven't been able to sort out the facts, but I assume that he/she was a member in good standing at some point, that he/she had many talents, but he/she created some major problems that this forum does not want to deal with again.

Sorry I was not here to understand what happened but at this point I will leave it alone and stop giving this person the recognition/or turbulence that they apparently are seeking.

condyk
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 17:40
... his Chinese accent stinks.

That could just be excessive use of Ginger, Garlic and Oyster sauce and no good reason to critique. However, if you are referring to the comedy sing song verbals then we must encourage him/her. I found it charmingly comic! S/he clearly has well honed critical perception too and a humour only hardened by painful past encounters.

All this fuss is surely just the attention seeking of a hurt child in need of a loving family. Perhaps s/he needs some time nested within a maternal mod bosom?

RandyMN
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 17:50
That could just be excessive use of Ginger, Garlic and Oyster sauce and no good reason to critique. However, if you are referring to the comedy sing song verbals then we must encourage him/her. I found it charmingly comic! S/he clearly has well honed critical perception too and a humour only hardened by painful past encounters.

All this fuss is surely just the attention seeking of a hurt child in need of a loving family. Perhaps s/he needs some time nested within a maternal mod bosom?

I think we all just need a BIG group hug!

Pekka
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 18:49
Tong Chen is Bloo Dog in disguise - we have proof of that. He is a banned user and he knows why he was banned and agreed to it. Now it appears that he either enjoys this forum so much he has to be here under false identity (which is worth banning, by the rules) or that he _again_ needs to prove his point that Glamour & nude forum contains bad photography which is something he can not tolerate and he wants it shut. Bloo is a sad case, a nice guy who went totally haywire because of G&N forum. I wish things were different and I have offered him solutions, but he chooses this way.

RandyMN
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 18:56
LOL... Kind of like GOD just spoke but I guess that means he/she is banned?

Sorry Pekka, I have to laugh at the whole situation. It's been very entertaining and funny so unless we are looking for votes, just strike that mighty lightening rod and remove the user. No need explaining anything as this entire thread has already done that for you.

Maureen Souza
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 19:00
That could just be excessive use of Ginger, Garlic and Oyster sauce and no good reason to critique. However, if you are referring to the comedy sing song verbals then we must encourage him/her. I found it charmingly comic! S/he clearly has well honed critical perception too and a humour only hardened by painful past encounters.

All this fuss is surely just the attention seeking of a hurt child in need of a loving family. Perhaps s/he needs some time nested within a maternal mod bosom?

More like a naughty, spoiled child who needs a firm hand and a sit in the corner.

Pekka
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 19:01
LOL... Kind of like GOD just spoke but I guess that means he/she is banned?

Yes, he is now.

RandyMN
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 20:19
I think the ground just shook here in Minnesota...

RandyMN
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 20:28
Pekka, I admire your ability to keep this sight straight. I know it's not easy but I do have to laugh at the same time. Nothing personal, just hanging here.

saravrose
21st of January 2006 (Sat), 23:58
And I had to leave my pc and go to work tonight! good call Pekka and mods, i'm almost sorry that I missed out on the 'bloo dog' time, but I most definately did not enjoy Tongcheng. I personally find it admirable that you can keep this forum running as smoothly and nicely as you do. Sari.

condyk
22nd of January 2006 (Sun), 03:55
More like a naughty, spoiled child who needs a firm hand and a sit in the corner.

:lol: :lol: I think s/he has now been sent to the garden, doors shut and curtains closed. Bad Dog. I suspect parenting can be much harder than photography.

Moppie
22nd of January 2006 (Sun), 03:59
:lol: :lol: I think s/he has now been sent to the garden, doors shut and curtains closed. Bad Dog.


Lets just hope he dosn't come back and pee all over the carpet. :lol: :lol: <img>

tommykjensen
22nd of January 2006 (Sun), 04:03
Lets just hope he dosn't come back and pee all over the carpet. :lol: :lol: <img>

We are quite sure he will. It is just a matter of time. Maybe he already have an account ready which we have not discovered yet. But Pekka and CDS are masters in uncovering that.

Moppie
22nd of January 2006 (Sun), 04:30
No, the I.P. trace is master of that :)

Im just troll hunting on another forum at the moment, its amazing how much control they think they have, when in reality they are nothing more than puppets on the end of a good mods strings :)

Im sure Peka and CDS are having fun.

tommykjensen
22nd of January 2006 (Sun), 04:35
Im sure Peka and CDS are having fun.

You bet http://photo.klein-jensen.dk/smilies/pound.gif I had many laughs yesterday.

Wazza
22nd of January 2006 (Sun), 04:47
All I can say is the mods are doing a great job. I know personally of the hassles involved, being an administrator and moderator for a couple gaming websites, and trying to keep the hackers at bay. :rolleyes:

Just a bit different here, but when a member is banned.. And they keep trolling, well it can be a pain.

Jaymz
22nd of January 2006 (Sun), 08:46
When someone is banned here are they able to browse the forums as a guest?

Pekka
22nd of January 2006 (Sun), 08:49
When someone is banned here are they able to browse the forums as a guest?

Yes.

I also have tools to refuse certain IP's from the forum. I can also block certain IP's for the whole site. That is what repeated offenders will get.

Jaymz
22nd of January 2006 (Sun), 09:02
Yes.

I also have tools to refuse certain IP's from the forum. I can also block certain IP's for the whole site. That is what repeated offenders will get.

Cool. Its just too bad that some people can't/won't learn from their mistakes the first time. They are learning intolerant. :p

Ronald S. Jr.
22nd of January 2006 (Sun), 09:03
Now...hopefully I won't get banned again. I've been working on my attitude. ;-) However, for the week that I was banned, I couldn't browse as a guest. Everytime I'd type in simply www.photography-on-the.net, that awful message would come up (You have been banned...etc.) How would I have gotten around that?

Ronald S. Jr.
22nd of January 2006 (Sun), 09:04
Also, if someone were to use some type of IP blocker (so you can't see their IP), are you able to find out what it is anyway? Is that a CDS special? ;-)


Just things I'm curious about. don't have to answer if you don't want to. :-)

Pekka
22nd of January 2006 (Sun), 09:11
Now...hopefully I won't get banned again. I've been working on my attitude. ;-) However, for the week that I was banned, I couldn't browse as a guest. Everytime I'd type in simply www.photography-on-the.net, that awful message would come up (You have been banned...etc.) How would I have gotten around that?

You had autologin on so the Cookie in your browser logged you in.

Ronald S. Jr.
22nd of January 2006 (Sun), 09:13
Hmm...I see. thanks.

Juliapassion
22nd of January 2006 (Sun), 13:12
Sheshh this thread is crazy ! LOL with Maureen ..if you are so hard- up too post upon a forum of nudity than go someplace else .

This "C" persona is some sorta .." rikers island thang " or of Bellview in NYC hospital ?
Please be carefull ppl .

WOW I havent been here for a -while and I am suprised .
Julia

Pekka
22nd of January 2006 (Sun), 13:14
I think this issue is now clear :) Topic closed.