Green on Yellow

[TimNYC24]

http://images.fotopic.net/?id=717448&outx=600&oq=0.jpg

since y'all are here just to look, no information needed

[EricvZ]

................................... sorry, just looking...


No, just kidding, I think its a great shot, must have taken an hour or so to wait for this shot, is it?
The little red flower is a bit distracting in my opinion, but i love the contrast between yellow and green. Do send more of these. Its fun to watch (.... sorry, kidding again)
BFN, EricvZ.

[Stoneh]

Good shot, only thing that would have made this perfect if you took it directly infront, the wings on the left are slightly soft, understandable considering the short DOF for these types of shots, and could have eliminated the distracting red flower too!

PS. Im not "ego-stroking" as some people might interpret. Granted, I aint no professional, just saying what I see.

[slejhamer]

since y'all are here just to look, no information needed

A bit of not-so-subtle irony? You know, the critique hit rate is far better here than it is on photo.net!

Okay, first a caveat: I'm not a big fan of bug pics. That's probably because I haven't had much success shooting them, and I think they take more work than they are worth. But an interesting image always catches my eye, and your "You looking at me?" pic did that. The way the eyes pop out, the hint of a bug body in the shallow murky DOF, etc. It's good stuff, dark and brooding.

With this one, while I recognize that it was probably a lot of work, I don't get that sense of wonder. Possibly it's the composition, with the bug headed out of frame. Its back is sharp but the head is fuzzy, so there isn't much for my eyes to lock onto. The colors alone are not enough to carry the pic, in my opinion. (I do like that kiwi green, though the yellow appears to be clipped? )

Keep posting; once in a while a few of us will get our fingers typing and hopefully you'll get what you are looking for.

In the meantime, have a look at THIS SITE (http://www.mplonsky.com/photo/article.htm) for some nifty bug-shooting tips & tricks.

Enjoy,

[pappy]

A good photo, Tim. I agree that the red is distracting but it's also apparent that a lot of effort went into this.

Very well done.

Regards,
Peter

[Leighow]

TIM

THis is a beautiful picture. Great saturated color. The fragility of the wings hits home. I can live with the red -- and live with nature as it is. What if the red was part of the bug. We'd live with it !

I liked this bug -- and all the other little bugs on your extensice web site. You are very productive.

HOWIE

[marie]

Hi tim
lovely clear details, on the gossamer wings especially
but : its much too yellow
and : its much too green.
too blaring
it does not appeal to me at all
but that is my eyes only.
some will love it.

what do YOU think?
THAT IS WHAT MATTERS .

you must have liked it
if you just want reactions thats ok too
(we all usually wait )

about your asking for replys to posts and how you think its rude not to reply etc,
and also talk ......about 'percentages' ,
as regards who gives a reaction and who does not
and about the number of ' hits'

what harm the number of hits ?
who cares ?
its meant to be a forum to 'look and see' and go on about your life.
not 'react' every time, just to dance to everyone's tune

re mentioning percentages and hits , will they not be PART of the very percentage which they are complaining about ? saying about how 'backward we all are in coming forward '
are not they also part of this group ?


it all should be spontaneous
or the whole point of a relaxing forum is completely lost .
pressure enough in daily living without putting it here .

have you any idea what it would be like
if you replied to every post, like you are asking everyone else to do ?
how on earth can everyone reply to everyone all the time ?
its not on.

and if you leave someone out how do you think they will feel ?
look down the list and see who , even you, had to leave out . just in the few sessions since you started this complaint

where does it all start.... and end ?
if you really need someone to critique keep taking the pictures and see what 'you' want from them and go out again and take more and more and more
and more .

everyone's opinions they can be so diverse,
each of us see each picture so differently sometimes.

for one of us to admire something is better then saying nothing at all .
but if there is going to be critique, well, the very best person to see whats wrong with their own pictures is themselves.
another viewpoint or two (if its spontaneous) is very important but be sure you have seen the photographs from that person, pictures which they took,
just to check it out,
see if you like ' their' style or not.

and keep looking hard at what you see in your own pictures and what you wanted to see.
and ask for any help in what you think you need

everyone else sees it different so whats so 'special' about wanting to see what they see ?

and as regards pressing reactions etc
its like with love.
it has to be given freely and unconditional or its useless.
anything forced is short lived .
take the pressure off
people have other lives too
far as I could see there never was any pressure here , and it was doing fine.
for those who need what it offers

if people wanted to react to your pictures they would and will,
believe me.
and if they don't..........
whats the big deal ?
you will have looked at your photographs better yourself by then anyway and come up with your own ideas of what you want to see.
not someone's else vision.

and in the sharing section.
its just that........ sharing
and sometimes shared valuable 'opinions' are there
and its very nice
whether it be a little help or a little compliment.
whats matters is the sharing. nothing else
no pressure.
the different sections are for different needs
'supply and demand'
you are demanding
don't push the supply



best wishes
marie

[TimNYC24]

Thank you all for taking the time to leave a message, I really appreciate it!

The "red" is a bud about to open with another yellow flower.
The green and yellow colors are not retouched, only sharpened.

As far as my being demanding, the Forum header says this:
Critique Corner When you put your photo here you are specifically requesting comments and critique.

If you just want to look, do it in some other forum, that doesn't ask you comment. That's why we post photos here. It isn't a gallery so much as it is a learning forum. You can't learn if people don't respond. If asking a person to leave two sentences after you have taken the time to post in this forum is asking too much, I think you are visiting the wrong forum. :)
I'm not asking for you to respond to each posting here, just the ones you choose to view.

Lol, slej you made me laugh !

again, thanks for looking and responding.

[eland]

Tim
I started reading the comments while the pic was loading.
Then decided to read most but not all of them before
looking at the photo. From this I tried to obtain a
mental image of the worth of your shot.
From the comments I thought "This must be a fairly so-so bug picture."


In fact I was VERY impressed when I finally did look.
My first impression was WOW this is great.
I really do think that it is very very good, Tim.

Your image has much to commend it.

*You have filled the frame very well.
No waste of space. A well taken and well cropped image.
*Angle of taking, from the tail end, is very good.
From the head end, tends to make the head too large
and out of proportion.

*The colors are dramatic and effective.

* The fly is very clearly the center of interest and it grabs
one's attention at once. The tracery of the wings shows well and is most attractive.

*Lighting is diffused and excellent for this type of picture.
Flash or direct sunshine would have wrecked the image by causing unwanted shadows.

On the constructive side I can find very little to grumble about.
Perhaps I would have erased or greatly subdued and
blurred the red flower. Personally I would favor leaving
a little dash of red, but very indistinct and not competing
for attention.
Also,
I might have tried to save some wing detail , top right.
The left wingtips could benefit from a little subtle sharpening too.

The slightly out of focus head didn't bother me, but for those
who commented, it could easily be locally sharpened.

As you claim to be only learning photography, on this image
I would give you the grade of 9/10

Kind regards
eland

[Laziferous]

TimNYC24 wroteIf you just want to look, do it in some other forum, that doesn't ask you comment. That's why we post photos here. It isn't a gallery so much as it is a learning forum. You can't learn if people don't respond. If asking a person to leave two sentences after you have taken the time to post in this forum is asking too much, I think you are visiting the wrong forum. :)
I'm not asking for you to respond to each posting here, just the ones you choose to view.
So, no one's allowed to look at pictures in this forum... unless they leave a comment? I think that's a bit much. I like to look at a lot of pictures in here... to see the skill levels, and to learn from them, and get new ideas. I wouldn't even bother looking, if comments were mandatory. My comments are useless anyway, I don't know very much at this point. I will comment if I have something intelligent to say (wait, does this post count :p). I don't see how you'll enforce a mandatory comment law, but I'll be sure to leave a comment, when viewing your threads in this forum http://photography-on-the.net/forum/images/smile4.gif I'm too laid back for drama like this though.

Oh, the picture... uh, a little bright, but otherwise, very nice.

[SoCal69]

Tim:

I do like the photo. In terms of critiques, I would agree with much of what Eland stated. However, until I read his post, I don't know if I could have articulated those points on my own... I'm just not experienced enough, so I would not have attempted a critique on my own. I guess it just depends on each person's feelings. My own feelings about this board was that those who posted here were looking for ideas and thoughts to make a photo better, stronger, etc., rather than just looking for mere affirmation that it is a nice photo. I can always say I like or dislike a photo. I just don't feel experienced enough to say "why." However, if a particular photo on this board strikes me in some way, I may leave a simple "good job" type comment.

It seems to me that the post to view ratios seem to hover between 5 and 10 percent, which is not too bad. The ratios are higher when a photo is first posted and dwindle over time. You have to realize that a lot of those views include people returning to view replies to other posts. Those viewers may not have anything more to add (I think this was mentioed earlier somewhere else). Also, I am sure that many people may come back to a thread just to find a piece of information they read there before which has now become relevant to something they are doing or to get ideas on how to shoot a particular subject. All in all, I think most members are pretty good about commenting on photos posted on these boards.

All that being said, I think your photo is wonderful even as it is, particularly the colors. Good Job :)

[marie]

it is a very good picture of an insect like it
and as you say in your reply that the colours are natural tim... I am sorry
it must be 'my' eyes see yellow and green too bright.
and too much blending together in the picture
and I understood pictures on here are for criticism really

I hate doing crit. at the best of times
horrible name anyway 'critique'
maybe should be 'opinions wanted please'
that way its user friendly.
and opinions are welcome always,
it seems nicer saying 'opinions please'

seems I just got annoyed at the mention that
'no one ever replies' etc

it takes me costly hours replying sometimes.
between crashing computer in between those replies and maybe putting on a picture of my own to share
and then others calling me here to look at this and that on tv maybe ...or something

me wanting also to reply to all those lovely galleries where hardly anyone gives their view.
its all a lot of looking
and hopefully taking everyone's feelings into account

I saw one gallery I liked very much.. last week
but because I had not the time to view 'all' of them,
( so not have anyone feel left out or hurt)
I left it and now no one has still replied to that gallery of beautiful photographs and its a shame,

but what can we do, my eyes are bleary
it was 3am when I got to bed last night
and was up early then
and I always want to tell everyone what I think of their pictures as I love them all mostly
(the pictures and the people :)
thats why we all rely on each others view but because one of us does not reply it does not mean we didn't want to.
oh heres the white coat man

good
I'm ready

best wishes
and lotsa love to whoever wants it.
(no good when I'm dead)

:)

marie

[Stoneh]

erm..... so you like the pic marie? ;)

[marie]

I love you
he he he

er......what picture?

marie :) :) :)

[Stoneh]

awwww!!

Hey..... TimNYC24, nice way to get critique... cant complain about the numbers now eh?? ;)

[gandini]

It's easy to critique this photo now that everyone has said what i wanted to say! The red bud is distracting. The color is a little saturated but the exposure is spot on. A little over-sharpened but not annoying--I can live with it since it brings so much detail out in the wings which is great. Overall a successful macro which I would rate 7/10 mainly on interest factor. Good work Tim.

One little gripe: I find the URL splashed your images most distracting. I know the issue of copyright has been discussed many times and people have strong feelings, but personally I cant be bothered to care about, or track down anyone who steals my images. They are all low enough resolution that they are useless for printing so what's being stolen here? And I'm not arrogant enough to think that my photos are special enough to be protected. I make them to view myself and to share with others--quite simply that and I feel I've had some success in this regard.
Anyway, since you are obviously willing to express your feelings Tiim your turn to flame my little niggle. :-)


regards

[TimNYC24]

Thanks y'all for taking the time to comment!

I agree about the fotopic thingy on the photos, but that's the way their site marks them, not my doing.
If THIS SITE had the ability to upload directly from my PC, like many other sites do ( hint,hint,pekka), then that annoying blurb on the bottom wouldn't be there :)