GKPE: General Ramblings thread

[dgcorner]

I just went to my happy place........my camera bag :lol:

Heres what I got

Very nice one Tony.

i know your pain! uni is so hard, let alone with a job :(

Wait till you get out of school into the real world -- the pain of working full time is much more:p

My moonshot tonight.
70-200 F4 L @ 200mm + 2x + 1.4x

Very nice Fran. Makes me want to save up for my teleconverters:p

Education

You are studying to learn how to study... oops I mean teach...:p Hopefully it isn't just Adult Education:lol:

[Nzshrimper]

is it the 10D or the lens that you have problems with?
((200 x 2) x 1.4) x1.6 = approx 900 mm (i think thats how it works) - auto focus stops working at 800mm on the 10 d (again i think thats right)

[theflyingkiwi]

((200 x 2) x 1.4) x1.6 = approx 900 mm (i think thats how it works) - auto focus stops working at 800mm on the 10 d (again i think thats right)

it's F8 the auto focus stops working on the any series but the 1 series cameras.

[Nzshrimper]

it's F8 the auto focus stops working on the any series but the 1 series cameras.
thats it ooppps !

[akiwi]

Well bye for now.
I'm off to Austria for a week of skiing and a bit of holiday with the family.
Have fun & I'll be back on the 10th.

Happy Easter, and don't eat too much chocolate... you'll just get pimples & look even uglier!

[theflyingkiwi]

thats it ooppps !

I did wonder if you had ment that, ohh well at least you had an 8 in it :)

[Nzshrimper]

I did wonder if you had ment that, ohh well at least you had an 8 in it :)
hey two things at once.. - i am a male after all..

[Nzshrimper]

Well bye for now.
I'm off to Austria for a week of skiing and a bit of holiday with the family.
Have fun & I'll be back on the 10th.

Happy Easter, and don't eat too much chocolate... you'll just get pimples & look even uglier!
now dont break anything..

[theflyingkiwi]

Well bye for now.
I'm off to Austria for a week of skiing and a bit of holiday with the family.
Have fun & I'll be back on the 10th.

Happy Easter, and don't eat too much chocolate... you'll just get pimples & look even uglier!

have a good trip, don't forget to take some photos and show us the vista we will be missing :)

[tim]

Too much to read to catch up. If anyone's planning on making an order from B&H any time drop me a PM please, I need a mounting plate for my flash bracket but it's not worth making an order for.

[weka2000]

it's F8 the auto focus stops working on the any series but the 1 series cameras.

Woops forgot that Fritz I knew there was another reason :lol:

[S-S]

it's F8 the auto focus stops working on the any series but the 1 series cameras.

for what zoom?

[theflyingkiwi]

for what zoom?

it doesn't matter which zoom, if you have a lens that's 17mm and it's wide open at F8 then you aren't going to get focus lock, which is the same if you have 800mm zoom and when it's wide open at F8 you aren't going to get zoom lock.

[theflyingkiwi]

Woops forgot that Fritz I knew there was another reason :lol:

and which lens are you needing the 1 series for? unless you stack a 1.4 or 2 on top of the bigma?

[weka2000]

Been spending a lot of time looking at the moon and the reflection of the light (which is reflected anyway from the sun) on to the clouds trying to work out how to capture it.

If you expose for the moon the clouds will be black, if you expose for the clouds the moon will blow out and if you try to blend it is not going to look right due to the radial light on the over expose moon photo so any ideas :lol:

With that im off to sleep

PS in regards to the GKPE and days of worship.... worship is a state not a building or a day

[weka2000]

and which lens are you needing the 1 series for? unless you stack a 1.4 or 2 on top of the bigma?

500mm F4 :p

Oh has anyone used tilt and shift lens for buildings?

http://www.pbase.com/compuminus/cambridge

[Sweedishcarrot01]

Very nice one Tony.


Wait till you get out of school into the real world -- the pain of working full time is much more:p

Worked for 10 years before I started studying. Believe be, study has more pain.



You are studying to learn how to study...

No

((200 x 2) x 1.4) x1.6 = approx 900 mm (i think thats how it works) - auto focus stops working at 800mm on the 10 d (again i think thats right)
Oh, really, huh, how silly, I pity you. Buy a 5D :)

Too much to read to catch up. If anyone's planning on making an order from B&H any time drop me a PM please, I need a mounting plate for my flash bracket but it's not worth making an order for.

Dude, I literally JUST got a BIG order from there. However, I may be placing one again soon, I'll let you know...

[Sweedishcarrot01]

500mm F4 :p

Oh has anyone used tilt and shift lens for buildings?

http://www.pbase.com/compuminus/cambridge

No, but would love to own one. :), more for landscapes, though, not a big building fan...

[tim]

Dude, I literally JUST got a BIG order from there. However, I may be placing one again soon, I'll let you know...

Bugger, but cool if you do let me know. I better work out what part I need.

[Wazza]

Wow that Cambridge photos are fantastic. Some with G2, Some with 300D, and rest with 5D. VERY nice.

Helps with the old architecture. Good night all.

Safe trip akiwi ;)

[Nzshrimper]

haha a friend in aussie has asked me to buy a house for him here.. better go and spend some of his money...

[Wazza]

Been spending a lot of time looking at the moon and the reflection of the light (which is reflected anyway from the sun) on to the clouds trying to work out how to capture it.

If you expose for the moon the clouds will be black, if you expose for the clouds the moon will blow out and if you try to blend it is not going to look right due to the radial light on the over expose moon photo so any ideas :lol:

With that im off to sleep

PS in regards to the GKPE and days of worship.... worship is a state not a building or a day

Have you tried fill flashing the dark sky?
Clive has posted a good guide to fill flash use.

:cool:

[forsaken]

flash, yeah that would come in handy

[TKRFAN]

i am just waiting for the cat to go sailing through the air as the springy cord recoils.. to the sound of meooooooooooowwwwwooowwww !!!

ooops, was that a cat that went through the roof?:D

OK - not quite through the roof - but is this close enough?? :lol: :p BTW the kitten is about 8 weeks old and belongs to my niece - who has in her infinite wisdom named him Popcorn - my brother reckons he won't be calling that out into the street :lol: :lol:

http://www.tkrfan.com/potnpics/tier2saturday387.jpg

[Sweedishcarrot01]

Bugger, but cool if you do let me know. I better work out what part I need.

Yes, you had better make haste...

[NordieBoy]

is it the 10D or the lens that you have problems with?

Size and clarity of the viewfinder when manual focussing on anything over 1 million Km away.

[theflyingkiwi]

haha a friend in aussie has asked me to buy a house for him here.. better go and spend some of his money...

make sure that you get commison, the cost of a mk3 should about cover it :)

[Moppie]

haha a friend in aussie has asked me to buy a house for him here.. better go and spend some of his money...


Sounds like fun, nothing like spending other peoples money :)

[S-S]

PS in regards to the GKPE and days of worship.... worship is a state not a building or a day

indeed - but the associated events usually take place on a day or in a building/set location...such as classes, services, and fellowship activities...

it doesn't matter which zoom, if you have a lens that's 17mm and it's wide open at F8 then you aren't going to get focus lock, which is the same if you have 800mm zoom and when it's wide open at F8 you aren't going to get zoom lock.

um i might be in need of some (more) anti-dumb pills here - but are you saying that beyond f8 - ie f6, f4 etc - i can't actually depend on the camera to indicate correct focus? using any lens? and what do u mean by zoom lock?

OK - not quite through the roof - but is this close enough?? :lol: :p BTW the kitten is about 8 weeks old and belongs to my niece - who has in her infinite wisdom named him Popcorn - my brother reckons he won't be calling that out into the street :lol: :lol:



i once heard of a cat called whoopee - picture that

[S-S]

Have you tried fill flashing the dark sky?
Clive has posted a good guide to fill flash use.

:cool:

or (sensible suggestion follows) take 5 shots in quick succession using manual exposure bracketing (cos auto doesn't give enough variation) and hdr them

[Nzshrimper]

make sure that you get commison, the cost of a mk3 should about cover it :)

He has said we can live there... but i like the idea of commsion .. hmm that 300mm

Sounds like fun, nothing like spending other peoples money :)

He wants a three / four bedder in a nice area of chch.. $350k - and somone to rent it. (if its nice then i will move in untill our house is built)

[Moppie]

He wants a three / four bedder in a nice area of chch.. $350k - and somone to rent it. (if its nice then i will move in untill our house is built)

Sounds even better, so you get to buy a house and live in it, useing someone elses money :D :D :D


Of course you could always buy him a student flat in Invercargil and pocket the change........

[Moppie]

He wants a three / four bedder in a nice area of chch.. $350k - and somone to rent it. (if its nice then i will move in untill our house is built)



Anyway, arn't you supposed to be tickeling photos?
The compitition has thiers up, and they are crap. So is their website actualy, very slooooooow.....

[Nzshrimper]

Sounds even better, so you get to buy a house and live in it, useing someone elses money :D :D :D


Of course you could always buy him a student flat in Invercargil and pocket the change........

hahaha - its not everyday your new landlord asks you to go out buy the house that you want to live in.. :rolleyes:

as for cargill - nah he might notice.

[Nzshrimper]

Anyway, arn't you supposed to be tickeling photos?
The compitition has thiers up, and they are crap. So is their website actualy, very slooooooow.....
auto tickle on at the moment.. captions etc.. should be in bed by 2 am.. :D

[iKirst]

I need to learn to be less fussy in PP of photos. Once upon a time, what I shot was as fussy as I got. No PP at all!. but these wedding shots, I've probably been spending a little too much time on them. (perhaps even far too much)
Bit worried they wont be any good, they seem to be expecting miracles, heh.
Between them, and following 22 or so hens for about 9 hours.. I'm severely sleep deprived.

Oh, Miss Ribena popped on by while we were all at a Cuban dance club. That was fun.. she's freakishly tall though.

[weka2000]

I need to learn to be less fussy in PP of photos. Once upon a time, what I shot was as fussy as I got. No PP at all!. but these wedding shots, I've probably been spending a little too much time on them. (perhaps even far too much)
Bit worried they wont be any good, they seem to be expecting miracles, heh.
Between them, and following 22 or so hens for about 9 hours.. I'm severely sleep deprived.

Oh, Miss Ribena popped on by while we were all at a Cuban dance club. That was fun.. she's freakishly tall though.

Thats what happened to me re model phototgraphy, maybe we feel we are on display and worry that it will not be good enough.
"Oh this is the photo that so an so took"

[weka2000]

Woke up real early which is not like me. Checked bank a/c to find a massive OD. WTF. Panic......checked cheque book seems glam got a LOT for that 300mm. The operator had keyed in the wrong amount on the chq.

I have had to cancel the 1D as I dont know how long it will take to sort mess out. So close yet so far away.
Makes me wonder if its not meant to be.

So how does the bank get the extra back of the presenter of the chq?

[Gouba]

Ouch sounds nasty Weka, i did something similar a couple of days ago

Go talk to your bank, ya should be able to get it back in the next two days if you get pushy (always pays to get a little pushy)

Following that go talk to Glam, he should have no issue getting it back to you.

[weka2000]

Ouch sounds nasty Weka, i did something similar a couple of days ago

Go talk to your bank, ya should be able to get it back in the next two days if you get pushy (always pays to get a little pushy)

Following that go talk to Glam, he should have no issue getting it back to you.

In 25yrs of Banking never had that happen before. I have let glam know.
What a shock to the system first thing on a Monday morning :confused:

[Wazza]

I need to learn to be less fussy in PP of photos. Once upon a time, what I shot was as fussy as I got. No PP at all!. but these wedding shots, I've probably been spending a little too much time on them. (perhaps even far too much)
Bit worried they wont be any good, they seem to be expecting miracles, heh.
Between them, and following 22 or so hens for about 9 hours.. I'm severely sleep deprived.

Oh, Miss Ribena popped on by while we were all at a Cuban dance club. That was fun.. she's freakishly tall though.

oo, so 5 photos took 2 hours to edit? I'm guessing you tried to finish most of those 90 images left. Naughty naughty. And I'm guessing you're still sleeping, late for work. :p

Your photos were great without the post processing, so apart from black and white conversions, and adding vignetting to a lot of them, and even selective colouring, I don't know what else. :D

[Wazza]

Tony: You should be able to get that reversed today. Get them to dishonour it, which will change your actual balance overnight, but they can give you a credit hold on the account, looks like a deposit, to make up the difference.

The processing of cheques are done by a sophisticated scanner, not by hand. Scans the amount on the bottom right, and random checks are made by the TOC - Transaction Operations Centre, operators..;)

[weka2000]

Tony: You should be able to get that reversed today. Get them to dishonour it, which will change your actual balance overnight, but they can give you a credit hold on the account, looks like a deposit, to make up the difference.

The processing of cheques are done by a sophisticated scanner, not by hand. Scans the amount on the bottom right, and random checks are made by the TOC - Transaction Operations Centre, operators..;)


Will they reverse the OD fee?
Looks liek I need to learn to write as well as spell :)

[Wazza]

Most definately. $25? Was the cheque drawn from same bank? Your bank should refund the fee, and honour fee which you could get.

[Sweedishcarrot01]

Thinking of selling my 24-105. It is exactly 1 year old. Around $1100? What do you guys think of that price?

[Wazza]

Let me know when you're selling it.

It's an ideal range for travelling and wedding photography. Don't you like it?

[FlyingPete]

Thinking of selling my 24-105. It is exactly 1 year old. Around $1100? What do you guys think of that price?

Hmmm lens on my to do list, but I have spend to much already in the last month :rolleyes:

[FlyingPete]

OK that website of ours, got Marks (theflyingkiwi) request to update, any more profiles to add? I will also update the Avatars.

Life is too busy, sorry I haven't got onto this earlier.

www.gkpe.org.nz

Oh on busy, thanks Mark for picking up GKPE VII, I don't have the brain space for that at the moment!

[Sweedishcarrot01]

Let me know when you're selling it.

It's an ideal range for travelling and wedding photography. Don't you like it?

Yes I like, but thinking of using primes only for sharpeness.

Hmmm lens on my to do list, but I have spend to much already in the last month :rolleyes:

... yep, I know that feeling... just spend 12 k on gear. :( :) :( :) :( :)

[Wazza]

50mm 1.4 is VERYYY sharp, and the 85mm is good too.

Kirst is interested in the lens too. She only has a 18-55, and has my 50mm 1.8, and my broken Sigma 70-300, plus her own Canon 90-300 I think - which should just be sold :p

[weka2000]

Thinking of selling my 24-105. It is exactly 1 year old. Around $1100? What do you guys think of that price?

What thats a great lens on the 5D

[Wazza]

http://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=298427

[Sweedishcarrot01]

What thats a great lens on the 5D

I'd like sharper, though.

[weka2000]

Yes I like, but thinking of using primes only for sharpeness.



... yep, I know that feeling... just spend 12 k on gear. :( :) :( :) :( :)

So what did you buy?
Oh the 50mm F1.4 and 85 F1.8 are sharp on the 5d

[weka2000]

I'd like sharper, though.
Hell you are getting as bad as me

[Wazza]

That's what I said. I'm only guessing those are his choices.

At weddings, I'm only using 50mm or 85mm.
The 85 isn't getting used so much, however comes in handy if Kirst is there second shooting. So I won't sell mine. I'll just keep buying new equipment rather than selling.

[Sweedishcarrot01]

So what did you buy?


a couple of lights.

Oh the 50mm F1.4 and 85 F1.8 are sharp on the 5d[/QUOTE]

What about the 50mm 1.8? as sharp as the 1.4?

Hell you are getting as bad as me

I doubt it. :)

That's what I said. I'm only guessing those are his choices.

At weddings, I'm only using 50mm or 85mm.
The 85 isn't getting used so much, however comes in handy if Kirst is there second shooting. So I won't sell mine. I'll just keep buying new equipment rather than selling.

Am thinking of possibly getting the 85 1.2

[Wazza]

85 1.2 on a 5D would be supreme.

My 50mm 1.8 was second hand, cost only $95 or so. Kirst now has it.

My 1.4, the focus is very accurate and fast. I've heard the 1.2 L isn't amazingly better than the 1.8 version. It's just money. :)

[FlyingPete]

Am thinking of possibly getting the 85 1.2

I have heard that lens described as 'A cube of glass' :D

[theflyingkiwi]

Hmmm lens on my to do list, but I have spend to much already in the last month :rolleyes:

did ya get your monitor? what do you think of it?

Thinking of selling my 24-105. It is exactly 1 year old. Around $1100? What do you guys think of that price?

I would as it's the first lens on my buy list. however that's a wait till I get a job

I'd like sharper, though.

are you going to go primes?

[Sweedishcarrot01]

85 1.2 on a 5D would be supreme.

My 50mm 1.8 was second hand, cost only $95 or so. Kirst now has it.

My 1.4, the focus is very accurate and fast. I've heard the 1.2 L isn't amazingly better than the 1.8 version. It's just money. :)

True to a point, however, the 1.8 seems to have blue Chromatic Aberrations when shooting wide open outdoors. I am still undersided, though.

I have heard that lens described as 'A cube of glass' :D

It's not actually glass, the 1.2 is made from the highest quality diamond... :)

[Sweedishcarrot01]

I would as it's the first lens on my buy list. however that's a wait till I get a job



good luck


are you going to go primes?

yes

[weka2000]

The 50mm F1.2 is good to F2 after that it gets soft and stoped down F16 is max
There is also a issue the focusing read
http://www.fredmiranda.com/reviews/showproduct.php?product=305&sort=7&cat=2&page=2

Its a nice weight on the 5D.

The 85mm you have to becareful as the back element stick out a long way and can be easly knock. There are a few MK1 but slower focus.

Hell what havnt I tryed out :lol:

[theflyingkiwi]

Hell what havnt I tryed out :lol:

I think you create a little web page (could even put it on gkpe.org.nz) with which lens you have tried etc and your options

[weka2000]

Well seems that not all that giltters is gold. Rang AC this morning re the 1Dmk2N on trademe. Seems that there is some differences to what he is saying about when he brought it and the warrenty and what AC is saying.

Well my bid is removed so maybe I should thank the bank :)

Oh the guys at Auckland camera have voice reconition as they knew who I was with out me saying :rolleyes:

[weka2000]

I think you create a little web page (could even put it on gkpe.org.nz) with which lens you have tried etc and your options

Thats not a bad idea someone will need to check mmy english to make sures it propper :p
Just did a count 14 lens Ive ownd in 2yrs. I own 5 now.

[Sweedishcarrot01]

How sharp is the 24-70?

[weka2000]

How sharp is the 24-70?

Which one Sigma or Canon :p

[Sweedishcarrot01]

Which one Sigma or Canon :p

canon

[FlyingPete]

did ya get your monitor? what do you think of it?


Fantastic! Why didn't I do it earlier? Oh that is right $$$.

Interesting my CRT was pretty stuffed, I didn't realise it until I got the new one, I now have shadow detail, in fact I never noticed the picture of the 1D Series in the top of the DPP window, on the CRT it just looks black!

InDesign is the program that really benefits from the screen, oh and FlightSim :D

On InDesign, will be ordering Adobe CS3 Suite shortly, Photoshop CS3, Indesign CS3 etc, nice. My upgrade rule is only every second version, so I jumped CS2 :)

[Nzshrimper]

Fantastic! Why didn't I do it earlier? Oh that is right $$$.

Interesting my CRT was pretty stuffed, I didn't realise it until I got the new one, I now have shadow detail, in fact I never noticed the picture of the 1D Series in the top of the DPP window, on the CRT it just looks black!

InDesign is the program that really benefits from the screen, oh and FlightSim :D

On InDesign, will be ordering Adobe CS3 Suite shortly, Photoshop CS3, Indesign CS3 etc, nice. My upgrade rule is only every second version, so I jumped CS2 :)

don't forget there are too be two flavors of cs3 - standard and advanced..

[theflyingkiwi]

Thats not a bad idea someone will need to check mmy english to make sures it propper :p
Just did a count 14 lens Ive ownd in 2yrs. I own 5 now.

Well if you wont to type it up I can check it for ya. I am not the best but I do have the time.

don't forget there are too be two flavors of cs3 - standard and advanced..

what's the difference between the two?

[weka2000]

Well if you wont to type it up I can check it for ya. I am not the best but I do have the time.



what's the difference between the two?

Advanced is more 3D orenitated

[FlyingPete]

don't forget there are too be two flavors of cs3 - standard and advanced..

Initially I wasn't sure I needed the features of advanced. Upon closer inspection they have dumbed down some of the tools in standard to create more of a difference, so it is not just some extra 3D and video features. HDR is one of the features to have this happen, not sure if it is the same, better or worse than CS2. I may end up with the premium suite anyway as it has Flash and Dreamweaver, it also has PS CS3 Advanced.

I can probably live with PS CS1, but we really need Indesign as we only have a 'demo' at the moment.

BTW I don't do extended 'demos' of software, if I use it I own it.

[weka2000]

canon I tryed Duncans out for me it seemed a little soft with close up shots but it could have been the lens. My Sigma was way sharper and the only reason I sold was I wanted all my glass to have 77mm filter

At the time I wanted a landscape lens so went to the 24-105. Bit od lightfall off at 24mm but thats when you use the 17-40

[weka2000]

Just had a preview of the MS aggrement with the Min of ED. No surprises just free :lol:

[FlyingPete]

what's the difference between the two?

CS Advanced has the following extra features:
- 3D visualization and texture editing advanced
- Motion graphics and video layers advanced
- Movie Paint
- Measurement and data
- DICOM support advanced
- MATLAB support

And the following feature are advanced rather than basic (what ever that means):
- Adjustable cloning and healing with overlay preview basic advanced
- Enhanced 32-bit HDR support
- Vanishing Point
- Animation
- Ruler and Count tools
- Image Stack processing

[Sweedishcarrot01]

I tryed Duncans out for me it seemed a little soft with close up shots but it could have been the lens. My Sigma was way sharper and the only reason I sold was I wanted all my glass to have 77mm filter

At the time I wanted a landscape lens so went to the 24-105. Bit od lightfall off at 24mm but thats when you use the 17-40

Yes, I'd quite like to have all 77mm too, so will take me a while to decide I think

[weka2000]

Yes, I'd quite like to have all 77mm too, so will take me a while to decide I think

All my 4 Canons are 77mm

[FlyingPete]

All my 4 Canons are 77mm

That is a strange focal length, and what is the point in having four lenses all the same :p

[weka2000]

That is a strange focal length, and what is the point in having four lenses all the same :p

That way when 1 gets wet it can dry off, Im a slow learner so it takes about 3 trys before I get it :p

[scotttnz]

All my 4 Canons are 77mm

Yep, that is one of the reasons I went with the 17-55 f2.8IS. Same 77mm filter size as my 10-20 and 70-200.

[Sweedishcarrot01]

anyone played with the 70-200 2.8 non is? (fyi tony, the canon one. :) )

[weka2000]

anyone played with the 70-200 2.8 non is? (fyi tony, the canon one. :) )

I own one :p Sharper than the IS verson according to reviews. Most of my glamour was done with it. Takes 1.4 TC well with very small IQ loss
With a 2xTC you get light fall off.
The F4 version is just as sharp but 67mm filter

[Sweedishcarrot01]

I own one :p Sharper than the IS verson according to reviews. Most of my glamour was done with it. Takes 1.4 TC well with very small IQ loss
With a 2xTC you get light fall off.
The F4 version is just as sharp but 67mm filter

How sharp is it compared to the 24-105?

And then how sharp compared to the 50mm 1.4?

[weka2000]

How sharp is it compared to the 24-105?

And then how sharp compared to the 50mm 1.4?

the 70-200 is sharper than the 24-104. I would have to do side by side re the 50 and 70-200 but my money would be on the 50mm.

But you need to compare apples with apples they are 2 very different lens.
I used the 50mm for full length body shots in my lounge in old house. I also did some tests with light from a portable gas heater (sorry didnt have a wood burning fire place so had to improvise) handheld with high ISO which I could not have done with a 70-200 F2.8

[Sweedishcarrot01]

the 70-200 is sharper than the 24-104. I would have to do side by side re the 50 and 70-200 but my money would be on the 50mm.

But you need to compare apples with apples they are 2 very different lens

Thanks, I want to compare anything with anything to find the sharpest. And then go from there... :). Is the 70-200 much sharper than the 24-105?

[weka2000]

Thanks, I want to compare anything with anything to find the sharpest. And then go from there... :). Is the 70-200 much sharper than the 24-105?

Noticable. You are welcome to my 70-200 to test for yourself.
Primes will alsways be faster and sharper.
50mm F1.4 85mm F1.2L 135mmL 200mm F1.8L (if you can get 1)
The 85F1.2 is meant to be the "portrait lens"

What you need to remember under studio lights is different to outdoors as far as AV is concerned
as your not trying to blur the background so much most of mine are F8-F11 in studio.

I liked the 70-200 as I could keep distant but zoom in with out distortion. I had my spot in the studio and stayed there.
How many spots do you want to see on a models face, I know they dont want to see any. So you soften the skin anyway.
USM the eyes and hair

[CliveyBoy]

Hell what havnt I tryed out :lol:
EF 16-35,, f2.8L II USM ?

[Sweedishcarrot01]

Noticable. You are welcome to my 70-200 to test for yourself.
Primes will alsways be faster and sharper.
50mm F1.4 85mm F1.2L 135mmL 200mm F1.8L (if you can get 1)
The 85F1.2 is meant to be the "portrait lens"

What you need to remember under studio lights is different to outdoors as far as AV is concerned
as your not trying to blur the background so much most of mine are F8-F11 in studio.

I liked the 70-200 as I could keep distant but zoom in with out distortion. I had my spot in the studio and stayed there.
How many spots do you want to see on a models face, I know they dont want to see any. So you soften the skin anyway.
USM the eyes and hair

Yes, 85 mm gives the correct proportions for a person, hence the reason it is 'named' the portrait lense. I often shoot bewteen f11 and f16 (sometimes higher) in the studio. But would like something I can open right up when I'm shooting with natural light only. I like spots, wrinkles, hairs, scars, e.t.c, the sharper the better. I like realism. So don't care too much for that 'soft' look.

Thanks for your comments on the sharpeness of the lenses, though, I haven't really tried them, so nice talking to someone who has... :), your super. :)

[Sweedishcarrot01]

There is a south auckland lady (not saying what ethnicity, you'll work it out) sitting at the bus stop with one Jandel. Another lady sits next to her and says "hi Tanielou, I see you lost one of your Jandel's". Tanielou replies, "aah, no Meili, I found one". :) LOL

...Yes I'm bored, been studying ALL day!

[weka2000]

EF 16-35,, f2.8L II USM ?

Not yet. It has a 82mm Filter the only downside

[iKirst]

OK that website of ours, got Marks (theflyingkiwi) request to update, any more profiles to add? I will also update the Avatars.
Me! I'll get the guff written up tonight :)

There is a south auckland lady (not saying what ethnicity, you'll work it out) sitting at the bus stop with one Jandel. Another lady sits next to her and says "hi Tanielou, I see you lost one of your Jandel's". Tanielou replies, "aah, no Meili, I found one". :) LOL

...Yes I'm bored, been studying ALL day!
Bwahaha!

Now - about that lens.. ;)

[theflyingkiwi]

Initially I wasn't sure I needed the features of advanced. Upon closer inspection they have dumbed down some of the tools in standard to create more of a difference, so it is not just some extra 3D and video features. HDR is one of the features to have this happen, not sure if it is the same, better or worse than CS2. I may end up with the premium suite anyway as it has Flash and Dreamweaver, it also has PS CS3 Advanced.

I can probably live with PS CS1, but we really need Indesign as we only have a 'demo' at the moment.

BTW I don't do extended 'demos' of software, if I use it I own it.

so how much is that package going to be setting you back?

[FlyingPete]

so how much is that package going to be setting you back?

Not sure for CS3. We are eligible for the education version due to the work Shona does (that is what we need Indesign for anyway), CS2 Premium is under $500, so it is s good deal :cool:

[weka2000]

Not sure for CS3. We are eligible for the education version due to the work Shona does (that is what we need Indesign for anyway), CS2 Premium is under $500, so it is s good deal :cool:

Got to love the education Prices.

[theflyingkiwi]

Not sure for CS3. We are eligible for the education version due to the work Shona does (that is what we need Indesign for anyway), CS2 Premium is under $500, so it is s good deal :cool:

ahh, that's a good price :) lucky

what's with the wings on your avatar?

[TKRFAN]

Hi All

If you are an enrolled student at various institutions you can get GREAT deals on software - I got full office for $125, and just looked up the price for Adobe Creative Suite Premium v2.3 for windows and it is $284 inc freight.

These are full versions of the programs just have no manual (and are genuine) :)

[weka2000]

ahh, that's a good price :) lucky

what's with the wings on your avatar?
So I wasnt the only one who noticed it.
Tryed to sleep when I got home but between the wife, kids and dog.......not a show

[Gouba]

Hi All

If you are an enrolled student at various institutions you can get GREAT deals on software - I got full office for $125, and just looked up the price for Adobe Creative Suite Premium v2.3 for windows and it is $284 inc freight.

These are full versions of the programs just have no manual (and are genuine) :)
Thats pretty cheap, where from?

[lil_miss]

oo, so 5 photos took 2 hours to edit? I'm guessing you tried to finish most of those 90 images left. Naughty naughty. And I'm guessing you're still sleeping, late for work. :p


Geez... when did you become her mother :-P :mrgreen: Give the girl a break - she's just learnin :D

[Wazza]

Just some tongue in cheek.

It's usually me who's the one that's up late every night. So I was being cheeky back.
I'm photoshopping still. Got some good ones I think. May put a gallery online too, if I get around to it.

At least a blog. ;)

[lil_miss]

Your website needs some new images :D

[TKRFAN]

Thats pretty cheap, where from?

Here is the link - tells you which tertiary education providers are involved :)

It was painlessly easy last time to order - adobe creative suite is looking very tempting, so I guess I had better enrol for my semester 2 paper early LOL!!

http://www.lapshop.co.nz/

[Moppie]

anyone played with the 70-200 2.8 non is? (fyi tony, the canon one. :) )


Iv got one I found in my camera bag, really, really, really, really nice lens.
If you read the forums, its regarded as the sharpest zoom canon has ever made.

[FlyingPete]

ahh, that's a good price :) lucky

what's with the wings on your avatar?

Bunny ears actually, it is almost easter, I might have to find some others :rolleyes:

[FlyingPete]

Iv got one I found in my camera bag, really, really, really, really nice lens.
If you read the forums, its regarded as the sharpest zoom canon has ever made.

Really.

[DiscoLizard]

There was a machine with better specs than that laptop being advertised on lapshop.co.nz for sale at Bond and Bond the other day for 2k (inc GST) - be cheaper to buy that and office than to get the deal from lapshop...

Not a Vaio tho.

[iKirst]

Bunny ears actually, it is almost easter, I might have to find some others :rolleyes:
I want ears!
My name is gaelic for easter - according to my mum...

[Sweedishcarrot01]

Iv got one I found in my camera bag, really, really, really, really nice lens.
If you read the forums, its regarded as the sharpest zoom canon has ever made.

fantastic, you beauty. Now, what is the sharpest prime that Canon make?

[iKirst]

Mr Fritzter - about your lense.. ;)

[Nzshrimper]

Here is the link - tells you which tertiary education providers are involved :)

It was painlessly easy last time to order - adobe creative suite is looking very tempting, so I guess I had better enrol for my semester 2 paper early LOL!!

http://www.lapshop.co.nz/
lol they are one of my suppliers.... some nice pc units for good pricing and a 3 year warranty as standard.. - i get the prices at cost... hmm even cheaper.. ;)

[momentz]

Iv got one I found in my camera bag, really, really, really, really nice lens.
If you read the forums, its regarded as the sharpest zoom canon has ever made.

Indeed, and if you read the forums the sigma is arguably sharper :)

[Sweedishcarrot01]

Mr Fritzter - about your lense.. ;)

Well, I need to think hard first, but it should happen. Is $1100 super cheap is it? It's just a number I pulled from the air. Maybe it should be $1400? :)

[iKirst]

Well, I need to think hard first, but it should happen. Is $1100 super cheap is it? It's just a number I pulled from the air. Maybe it should be $1400? :)
I'll leave the thinking to you :)
It's a bit of an impulse buy on my behalf.. I could be patient and wait till I was in NY next year. Price wise, I haven't researched to know :)

[Moppie]

Indeed, and if you read the forums the sigma is arguably sharper :)


Such hearsy! :evil::evil::evil::evil:

;)

[Nzshrimper]

right decision time.. jet boating in timaru this weekend or wanaka and the race for the skys... bugger i need to clone myself..

[Moppie]

Are you kidding?
Race for sky beats anything but possibly, ummm, ummmmm.......................

Of course you need only pay for my air fare and you can go and watch all the jet boating you like.

[Sweedishcarrot01]

I'll leave the thinking to you :)
It's a bit of an impulse buy on my behalf.. I could be patient and wait till I was in NY next year. Price wise, I haven't researched to know :)

O.K, well I am just guessing at the price. I do remember now, though, that it is not the original lens I bought. I didn't think the orignal 24-105 was sharp enough, so, I took it back to Canon, and they replaced it. Think that was in like July or something, so the lens isn't that old really.

The first thing I need to do is make up my mind what lens I want to replace it with. It'll be hard to part with it...

[Nzshrimper]

Are you kidding?
Race for sky beats anything but possibly, ummm, ummmmm.......................

Of course you need only pay for my air fare and you can go and watch all the jet boating you like.

Of course you are correct but that means a weekend camping with no kids .. ermm its sounding better already.. :D and Jim could cover the jet boats.. :lol:

I think it over tonight.. as for your airfare sure.. check your email for the confirmation.. :rolleyes:

Yeah Right...

are you and tony coming down still.. or has tony spent all his money.. if you are i have a 4 wheel drive you can borrow (thats if you guys fly into chch... ) and if you want you could borrow my camping gear..

[Moppie]

Hmmmmmmm, this is sounding very tempting.

Might bring my own tent though, I hear tony isn't much fun to sleep with...........

I need a proper holiday, and airfares are pretty good at the moment to.
I also have a pretty good idea of my way around the SI, you haven't added any more roads in the last 10 years have you?

[S-S]

hey all

can i get a bit of constructive critique on the following pic(s) - remembering this is my first portrait shoot with 580ex (or any other flash unit for that matter) and my backdrops consisted of a white sheet and a black sheet LOL

thanks all

[Nzshrimper]

Hmmmmmmm, this is sounding very tempting.

Might bring my own tent though, I hear tony isn't much fun to sleep with...........

I need a proper holiday, and airfares are pretty good at the moment to.
I also have a pretty good idea of my way around the SI, you haven't added any more roads in the last 10 years have you?
let me know when i and i will escape work for the week too.. (if thats ok)

if you make May onwards i could get a campervan for 30 - 40 bucks a night each.. (6 berth based on 3 people...)

[Sweedishcarrot01]

hey all

can i get a bit of constructive critique on the following pic(s) - remembering this is my first portrait shoot with 580ex (or any other flash unit for that matter) and my backdrops consisted of a white sheet and a black sheet LOL

thanks all

The second is nice. I think the first could do with a little more light, though. Looks like fun huh

[S-S]

The second is nice. I think the first could do with a little more light, though. Looks like fun huh

yeah i only had the one light source and it was raining outside, which was where the shoot was originally meant to be - it was fun, took about 80 shots all different poses and angles but dont be scared i wont post them all LOL

[lil_miss]

They are awesome - great poses and awesome for your first try. What was lighting the background? Just your flash? I have a maternity shoot on Saturday :) Im bouncing ideas

[Moppie]

let me know when i and i will escape work for the week too.. (if thats ok)

if you make May onwards i could get a campervan for 30 - 40 bucks a night each.. (6 berth based on 3 people...)


We might be onto something here.
I was going to take all of March off, then got a promotion to a position I couldn't leave right away.
But, Iv let the boss know I will be going for 2-3 weeks in may, and he has no say in the matter :)

I have a class 2 licence if that helps with camper van rental.

[Nzshrimper]

We might be onto something here.
I was going to take all of March off, then got a promotion to a position I couldn't leave right away.
But, Iv let the boss know I will be going for 2-3 weeks in may, and he has no say in the matter :)

I have a class 2 licence if that helps with camper van rental.
i can drive anything up to a tank.. b trains road trains etc ( i kid you not).. and you can drive a camper on a normal car licence

[theflyingkiwi]

i can drive anything up to a tank.. b trains road trains etc ( i kid you not).. and you can drive a camper on a normal car licence

been to the race to the sky, a few years ago was down for the easter weekend for warbirds over wanaka. Had two days of the airshow and figured spend the sunday with the race to the sky.

just new to photography back then.

that's where this shot comes from

http://cuthbert.net.nz/2004/img_4571.jpg

there was a guy there shooting with the 100-400 following the winner, who happened to be from japan. I forget his name.

The next day my brother and I was waiting to catch out flight back, he started small chat with the guys mother of all things, she didn't speak a great deal of english :)

[S-S]

They are awesome - great poses and awesome for your first try. What was lighting the background? Just your flash? I have a maternity shoot on Saturday :) Im bouncing ideas

thanks :) yeah i only had the flash and a joe demb diffuser pro on top, and a reflector disc (but not in those shots)

i suggest you search google for pregnancy photographers and make a contact sheet of some of your favourite shots to take along with, you can show the clients and see what they like too

for the white background i ended up having to gradient-photoshop it out to a flat #eee grey cos the sheet was creased and distracting - also in some the guy was so tall his head was poking out the top of the backdrop LOL

for the black i just left it how it was, it really was much darker than i expected, i thought the sheet would reflect light and look messy but it was great

[Moppie]

It depends on the camper :)

I never took it further than a class 2, but Iv driven things bigger than I shouldn't have :)

[Sweedishcarrot01]

yeah i only had the one light source and it was raining outside, which was where the shoot was originally meant to be - it was fun, took about 80 shots all different poses and angles but dont be scared i wont post them all LOL

Well good effort anyways. Lighting is one of the hardest things to grasp. The more diffused it is, the more natural it will appear.

[scotttnz]

Such hearsy! :evil::evil::evil::evil:

;)

The general consensus I have read seems to be that the Sigma is sharper at the 70 end, but the Canon is better at the 200 end.

I'm happy with mine, but I haven't done any comparisions. (Comparisons are dangerous if you are already happy with what you have got. They can cause you to become unnecesarily unhappy!):o

[tim]

Great photos for a single light source and your first time!

Just writing the resignation letter for my IT job right now, i'm too busy with photography and working 70+ hours per week is running me into the ground.

[theflyingkiwi]

bla bla bla, posted above.

f**king windows

[S-S]

thanks every1 for your encouraging comments and advice :)

[S-S]

I was down that way a few years ago, went to warbirds over wanaka, 2 days of airshows and deiced to go to race to the sky, in fact that is where this shot comes from

the winner was some guy from japan, who had some photographer following him around, using I think a 1Ds and a 100-400.

My brother even had a small chat with the winners mother, who also had come out from japan to watch. Very hard tho when her english wasn't very good. :)

is there an echo in here? LOL
cool shot - both times LOL

[Moppie]

The general consensus I have read seems to be that the Sigma is sharper at the 70 end, but the Canon is better at the 200 end.



Having just made very good use of Petes 70-200, I realise Im going to need a 70-200 2.8 of some type in the future. I really have no idea which one to pick, all i know is I currently can't afford either.



Just writing the resignation letter for my IT job right now, i'm too busy with photography and working 70+ hours per week is running me into the ground.


Congrats!
I guess that means you have finnaly made it as a full time pro photog!
Not bad considering how long ago you started, but expected given the amout of effort you have put in :cool:

[TKRFAN]

Hi All

somethingsimple - for the awwwwwwwe gooey factor I can't go past number 1 - it is very cool to include the family pet in the photos :)

Can't offer any technical help as I wouldn't have the first idea how to start myself!

[S-S]

Just writing the resignation letter for my IT job right now, i'm too busy with photography and working 70+ hours per week is running me into the ground.

how cool i would love to be in that position myself, where i can quit everythign else im doing and just BE a photographer

[Nzshrimper]

It depends on the camper :)

I never took it further than a class 2, but Iv driven things bigger than I shouldn't have :)
the biggest units here you can rent (without getting a house bus) is the 6 berth units .. can drive them on a car ..

Royal Mail paid for most of my truck driving.. great student job that.. stayed for an extra year..

[Nzshrimper]

there was a guy there shooting with the 100-400 following the winner, who happened to be from japan. I forget his name.

The next day my brother and I was waiting to catch out flight back, he started small chat with the guys mother of all things, she didn't speak a great deal of english :)

Nobuhiro 'Monster' Tajima is the winners name,.,

the photog dont have a scoobie.. just call him 'Nick'

[theflyingkiwi]

Nobuhiro 'Monster' Tajima is the winners name,.,

the photog dont have a scoobie.. just call him 'Nick'

yea that's the guy, got a photo of him somewhere.

scoobie? that's lost on me. but then most things are lost on me.

[Nzshrimper]

yea that's the guy, got a photo of him somewhere.

scoobie? that's lost on me. but then most things are lost on me.

scoobie doo = clue
(rhyming slang...)

[theflyingkiwi]

scoobie doo = clue
(rhyming slang...)

yep, something like that :rolleyes: :lol:

[tim]

Congrats!
I guess that means you have finnaly made it as a full time pro photog!
Not bad considering how long ago you started, but expected given the amout of effort you have put in :cool:

how cool i would love to be in that position myself, where i can quit everythign else im doing and just BE a photographer

Thanks! I've actually been able to live on my photography for the past two summers, not easily last summer, but this summer no problem. I did live on it for a few month late last year. I have a mortgage though so IT is necessary, plus I enjoy it. Winter isn't a good time for wedding photographers, I can't live on it in winter, but i've made enough to take a couple of months off to finish a half dozen albums, rest, and recuperate. The 80 hour weeks are starting to take their toll on my health, in 2 months i'd be completely burned out so sorting it now before that happens.

[Sweedishcarrot01]

So, who here has a 17-40 and has compared sharpness with a 24-105?

[Sweedishcarrot01]

bla bla bla, posted above.

f**king windows

That's why I don't use windows :)

[Wazza]

I like all the comments on trademe for that 1D IIN. How Tony made some lame excuse? :lol:

[tim]

So, who here has a 17-40 and has compared sharpness with a 24-105?

Um... they're both L lenses, you'll gain far more with good lighting, posing, and technique than pixel peeping. They're quite different lenses too.

A friend has a 24-105L on a 5D, he gets amazingly sharp photos.