GKPE: General Ramblings thread

[theflyingkiwi]

Sandra's happy, but when do you STOP. I guess you only buy good glass once. My photography has slowed right down to a crawl so do I need the glass.

Well that's it. the stopping is the hard part. I had thought that the 100-300 and I should be all ok. But checking the pictures from last year and the ones this year, it changes everything. One thing you need to think about is what glass will I need in the future.

However in saying that, if you have got something to get you started and you would like to turn this hobby in to making money then you could wait untill you know what you need. then buy the glass you need.

You could buy a 300 F2.8 if you had the money, but why. If you don't have the need then what's the point.

[weka2000]

New topic.. What do people photograph over the winter months? I have been looking into the idea of night shooting around auckland. The night Scott and I went out yealed some good results.

What do you photograph when its raining.

[tim]

During winter i'm going to some theatre photography, some model photography, and i'm going to try shooting in nightclubs.

Xtra DNS is buggered.

[MattL]

Tim, i corrected what appears to be a typo in your last message :
Xtra is buggered.

[MattL]

New topic.. What do people photograph over the winter months?

Let me give you an idea :
http://whakapapa05.nzpages.net/images/CRW_7523-01%20(Medium).jpg

[NordieBoy]

Is Xtra DNS borked for you guys too? Luckily I cached some IP addresses a while back so I have access to my essential sites...

A few customers have been ringing me up complaining and a call to Xtra got an engaged signal.

[weka2000]

I will be 39 next month and ive never touched snow. Mind you I hate the cold may be a reason for never been to the snow :lol:

[MattL]

With the number of 'xtras broken' posts here tonight, I could be mistaken for thinking this is NZNOG, not GKPE!

Tony, whats your excuse? Its not like you have to go very far to find it. Go down to national park - there are some amazing waterfalls!

[tim]

Can someone do me a favour and tell me the IP address of the server below please? Just go to a command prompt, and type "ping sync.avantgo.com", tell me the number that comes back that looks like 10.32.134.2

I need my mobile news fix!

[MattL]

pamela:/etc/ppp# ping sync.avantgo.com
PING sync.avantgo.com (64.157.224.7) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from sync.avantgo.com (64.157.224.7): icmp_seq=1 ttl=51 time=191 ms
64 bytes from sync.avantgo.com (64.157.224.7): icmp_seq=2 ttl=51 time=188 ms
64 bytes from sync.avantgo.com (64.157.224.7): icmp_seq=3 ttl=51 time=184 ms
64 bytes from sync.avantgo.com (64.157.224.7): icmp_seq=4 ttl=51 time=187 ms

--- sync.avantgo.com ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 3022ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 184.969/188.002/191.239/2.286 ms
pamela:/etc/ppp#

[tim]

Thanks Matt, you make a great DNS server, less latency than the Xtra one too :p :)

[NordieBoy]

Who are you with Matt?
I get...
10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 8993ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 209.767/213.179/218.267/2.443 ms

[MattL]

Err, that was sitting a 10meg fiber pipe.. Its probably going to yeild slightly better results than your DSL in nelson, sorry :P

[tim]

My DSL is about as fast as your 10mbps fibre :p

ping sync.avantgo.com

Pinging sync.avantgo.com [64.157.224.7] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 64.157.224.7: bytes=32 time=191ms TTL=47
Reply from 64.157.224.7: bytes=32 time=191ms TTL=47
Reply from 64.157.224.7: bytes=32 time=191ms TTL=47
Reply from 64.157.224.7: bytes=32 time=190ms TTL=47

Ping statistics for 64.157.224.7:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 190ms, Maximum = 191ms, Average = 190ms

[MattL]

thats quite possible. 5mb CIR on it, so it wouldn't be much faster than some peoples DSL here. But the thing is we can put as much as we frickin like down that pipe :D

[tim]

Better than what you had before eh?!

[MattL]

yeah. Its a start anyway. If we keep expanding th network as fast as we are, That will get upgraded in no time :D

[Moppie]

I completely lost my connection around 7pm last night, was down till well after I went to bed. Someone at work said it was still down at 11pm.

The Xtra help line was down for the first hour, simple over loaded, then they managed to get a message up saying they were experianceing a "National Outage".
Stangly enough only the day before someone in 31 Airdale St screwed up and a whole lot of rural phone connections got "disrupted".

Makes you wonder if Telecom is trying to flex some muscle and show what it can do with all its wonderful cable?
Or if the technology is simply so old and out of date its finaly starting to fail.

[NordieBoy]

PING sync.avantgo.com (64.157.224.7) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from sync.avantgo.com (64.157.224.7): icmp_seq=1 ttl=49 time=210 ms
64 bytes from sync.avantgo.com (64.157.224.7): icmp_seq=2 ttl=49 time=213 ms
64 bytes from sync.avantgo.com (64.157.224.7): icmp_seq=3 ttl=49 time=213 ms
64 bytes from sync.avantgo.com (64.157.224.7): icmp_seq=4 ttl=49 time=212 ms

Maybe 52 bytes is making the difference.

PING sync.avantgo.com (64.157.224.7) 32(60) bytes of data.
40 bytes from sync.avantgo.com (64.157.224.7): icmp_seq=1 ttl=49 time=212 ms
40 bytes from sync.avantgo.com (64.157.224.7): icmp_seq=2 ttl=49 time=211 ms
40 bytes from sync.avantgo.com (64.157.224.7): icmp_seq=3 ttl=49 time=213 ms
40 bytes from sync.avantgo.com (64.157.224.7): icmp_seq=4 ttl=49 time=212 ms

Nope, same with 32 bytes.

[weka2000]

Duncan must be out as well, Im sure he would have a lot to say about telecom :)

[dgcorner]

Wow, Xtra being buggered and 4 pages later I catch up with the goss... geez, looks like last night was the busiest considering the "Nation-wide Outage"

Tony, during the wet winter days you might want to try Macro photography. It is amazing what you will find to shoot.

[Wazza]

Yes, I'm on Xtra dialup at home and Xtra DSL at Kirsts, both having some issues last night. Who needs the internet, when you have someone beautiful in your life. :)

- And a photography up-to-date on myself, I got 60 matt frames made, and some acid free backing, tape and have made some nice frames up. All for only $407, for 12x8" pics inside 11x14" frame sizes and 6x4" pics for 6x8" matt frames with holes.

[weka2000]

Who needs the internet, when you have someone beautiful in your life. :)


wazza I never knew you cared that much about us :lol:

[weka2000]

wazza what are your plans this week? I want a day off work to go shooting with you.

[scotttnz]

One of the exchanges in the city was down for a couple of hours yesterday morning too.

It must be all that unbundling work they are doing. You can't expect them to unbundle the local loop without knocking out a few cables here and there, it is a big job you know:)

[dgcorner]

Yes, I'm on Xtra dialup at home and Xtra DSL at Kirsts, both having some issues last night. Who needs the internet, when you have someone beautiful in your life. :)

- And a photography up-to-date on myself, I got 60 matt frames made, and some acid free backing, tape and have made some nice frames up. All for only $407, for 12x8" pics inside 11x14" frame sizes and 6x4" pics for 6x8" matt frames with holes.

Where'd you have them made? Seems like a very good price for 60 matt frames... I need to start framing my pics if I want them to last longer...

[dgcorner]

Pete, do you have a CD of "The Lads" so I can listen to the music? The school sent out the notice re the DVD yesterday... and now I have to work fast to get things moving along... Note that this is for a PTFA fund raising thing so no one is really making a profit... so I hope that the band will allow use of their songs...

[dgcorner]

Manukau City Photo Competition here (http://www.times.co.nz/cms/index_photo_competition.php)

[theflyingkiwi]

Manukau City Photo Competition here (http://www.times.co.nz/cms/index_photo_competition.php)

that's not very good, the camera you could win is only a fuji, gezz they could have gone with a canon at least. :)

[dgcorner]

that's not very good, the camera you could win is only a fuji, gezz they could have gone with a canon at least. :)

Agree... that's why they are looking for happy snappers... have a look at some of the photos -- I give them a "WOW" for having the guts to even think of submitting them...:lol: Have a look at photo 2 & 13 here (http://www.times.co.nz/cms/features/photo_vote/2006/04/art100011302.php) ;) photo 23 here (http://www.times.co.nz/cms/features/photo_vote/2006/04/art100011304.php) isn't even from Manukau (Bastion Point in Auckland City):lol: nor photo 58 here (http://www.times.co.nz/cms/features/photo_vote/2006/04/art100011306.php) -- either I've been to too few places but where in Manukau do these coconut trees grow?

Other than that, there are a few really good ones... and If I do decide to join it will be for the experience rather than the prizes... then again, the Fuji can sell or trade for some accesories ;-)

[Wazza]

I'm a bit busy this week, Tony, in prep for wedding on Saturday (only one left for this year!), and also just went along to Craft World to put up a stall. .120cm long, $135 a month, and have to pay two months in advance. So there goes the last of my money.

Don't want to risk getting a camera in the drink. :o

[Wazza]

Where'd you have them made? Seems like a very good price for 60 matt frames... I need to start framing my pics if I want them to last longer...

Factory Frames.

$1 for 6x4" photos with 6x8" matt. They're just the off cuts.
$1 for the Acid free backing

The 12x8" ones, were in fact 11x14" matts, but the holes just manage to be less than 8" wide, so they photos fit, with a bit of cropping on the lenth.
The acid free backs are $4 for this size

Finally, custom size 12x4" panos, so about a 15"x6" matt, are $5 each custom cut, plus about 4 for the backing.

[weka2000]

I'm a bit busy this week, Tony
Don't want to risk getting a camera in the drink. :o

Thats cool the boss has been told that im taking lessons from a pro photographer.

Thats what the neck straps for so you dont drop it in the water, mind you sliping on rocks well thats different thats what insurance is for ::lol:

[weka2000]

Ok which of you guys brought the Sigma 70-200 on trademe?

[joeseph]

Duncan must be out as well, Im sure he would have a lot to say about telecom :)
Didn't notice any outage - mainly due to the fact that I don't & won't use Xtra. [hear THAT Theresa??]

[weka2000]

Didn't notice any outage - mainly due to the fact that I don't & won't use Xtra. [hear THAT Theresa??]

Ive got xtra and I didnt notice any difference. Mind you wife did with delayed e-mails.

[NordieBoy]

Ok which of you guys brought the Sigma 70-200 on trademe?
Looks like they guy who got it is the one trying to sell a 1D a while ago.
Seems like he jumped in with an $850 buy now right at the end when the bidding was at $655 and the reserve was only $800 :D

[weka2000]

Ok whos up for a night shoot?

[dgcorner]

Factory Frames.

$1 for 6x4" photos with 6x8" matt. They're just the off cuts.
$1 for the Acid free backing

The 12x8" ones, were in fact 11x14" matts, but the holes just manage to be less than 8" wide, so they photos fit, with a bit of cropping on the lenth.
The acid free backs are $4 for this size

Finally, custom size 12x4" panos, so about a 15"x6" matt, are $5 each custom cut, plus about 4 for the backing.

Thanks Warren! Good luck with the stall at Craft World... I'm assuming that this is the one up North rather than the one here out East...

[dgcorner]

Ok whos up for a night shoot?

Pass... have house guests.

[Moppie]

Ok whos up for a night shoot?


Tempting, but I have to be up early tomorrow.

Besides, Boston Legal (great Satire) or frezzing cold..........

Maybe Thursday?

[weka2000]

Pass... have house guests.

And this is why we spend so much time shooting alone :lol:

Im leaving at 7.30ish destination unknow, results will make you wish you were there :)

[scotttnz]

Ok whos up for a night shoot?

Could be a good night to get some "reflections" but i just walked in the door, and I don't think Kerry-Sue would be too impressed if I turned around and walked out again. Plus I think I might be getting a cold, so I will stay home and try to fight it off.

Seems like he jumped in with an $850 buy now right at the end when the bidding was at $655 and the reserve was only $800

Just makes me all the more happy with mine for $700!

[NordieBoy]

Just makes me all the more happy with mine for $700!
If I killed you right now no-one would blame me :D

[weka2000]

If I killed you right now no-one would blame me :D

Dont worry a week after he got his 1 went for $650 and I kicked myself for listening to my wife.

Speaking of which she is not letting me out of the house untill the kids go to bed. By that stage I wont want to go out either.

See some tosser on Trademe got a new import up he recons the RRP is $1995+ feel like sending him a message and tell him to stop guessing at prices.

PS

To late I asked

[Moppie]

PM me your cell phone number Tony, if I get back from the house inspection early on Thursday i might be keen for a night shoot.

[weka2000]

PM me your cell phone number Tony, if I get back from the house inspection early on Thursday i might be keen for a night shoot.

Thursday night Sandras on night shift.

[Moppie]

Bother.

Well Im not working next week, so no early starts.
What nights are you free then?

[scotttnz]

I'm keen for a night shoot to...if I can beat this bug.

Wonders off to get some more freshly squeezed orange juice.....

[weka2000]

Ah now im not in the mood :(
Round 1 for wife.

Got this today so better than nothing

Yeh I know I cant spell :)

[scotttnz]

Nice shot Tony. Is that the same spot we went to that time?

[dgcorner]

Nice one Tony!

[weka2000]

Nice shot Tony. Is that the same spot we went to that time?

Same area different spot, the sun is now setting in a different place

[dgcorner]

Finally got to do some work on stuff I took the other day... Here's one of them from the Japanese maple tree right outside my front door... C&C welcome.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f236/dgcorner/GKPE/AutumnColours-Web.jpg

[scotttnz]

I love the intense colour John! Great work.

[weka2000]

Yes the colours are great. Simple composition but the colouring makes a statement. Nice back ground blur.

[weka2000]

Just makes me wonder I compared my shot to Johns and the better photo for no other reason in my mind is the colour. I think thats what makes my waterfall shots so dull. They lack vibrent colour

[Moppie]

They lack vibrent colour


That comes from 3 things, in order of importance they are:

Subject. If it dosnt have vibrant colour then it will be a flat photo

Exposure. Differnt colours look better when exposed at differnt ends of the histogram, for example Iv found reds look better when a little under exposed.

Post Processing.
Once you get the other two right then you can add small enhancements here.
Levels adjustments, saturation, etc. Use layers.

[NordieBoy]

"Die autumn die!" is German for "The autumn the!"
- Thanks to Sideshow Bob :D

[dgcorner]

Just makes me wonder I compared my shot to Johns and the better photo for no other reason in my mind is the colour. I think thats what makes my waterfall shots so dull. They lack vibrent colour

I noticed that myself, i.e., the lack of colours of the bush or trees (most of them) here in the North Island.

Stark contrast with the SI where autumn/fall colours are just fabulous, especially in Christchurch -- luckily that I've had a key account there which allowed me to visit throughout the year... a shame though that I wasn't really into photography then:(

I can only imagine in my mind's eye how fantastic those scenes would be if I had captured them...:cry:

[dgcorner]

Thanks for the C&C guys. I just had to capture the colour of the leaves before they fell off.

[tim]

Couple of nice photos tonight, Fran yours has potential but isn't quite there. Some post processing could make it really good though. The other guys, those photos are cool :)

I have a wedding this saturday, and last count I have a dozen booked for this and next year. I visited my new mentor today, I found his comments invaluable, more stuff than I could've worked out myself in 6 months. Wazza, if you can find someone to help you out in the same way you'd probably also find it invaluble. I'd do it but i'm in the wrong city. Come down here i'll help you any day of the week :)

[dgcorner]

Couple of nice photos tonight, Fran yours has potential but isn't quite there. Some post processing could make it really good though. The other guys, those photos are cool :)

I have a wedding this saturday, and last count I have a dozen booked for this and next year. I visited my new mentor today, I found his comments invaluable, more stuff than I could've worked out myself in 6 months. Wazza, if you can find someone to help you out in the same way you'd probably also find it invaluble. I'd do it but i'm in the wrong city. Come down here i'll help you any day of the week :)

Thanks, Tim. All the best for your wedding on Saturday! and congratulations with you bookings too.

[Wazza]

Cool Tim,
I'm just taking things slowly for now. Perhaps a little slow.

After this weekend, nothing else till the new year. With setting up a stand at Craft World, I'll leave a couple of photos and business cards up for demonstration.

[FlyingPete]

Brrrrr cold! Well had our first frost this morning, air temp according to my inside outside thermometer dropped to 2.8degC :eek:

That sort of temp in May is not a good start, it normally doesn't get really cold until July/August!

GKPE IV - Ice Shoot anyone?

[FlyingPete]

Cool Tim,
I'm just taking things slowly for now. Perhaps a little slow.

After this weekend, nothing else till the new year. With setting up a stand at Craft World, I'll leave a couple of photos and business cards up for demonstration.

Here is another thought, my photography teacher many years ago had a couple of good ideas to get your name and/or prints out there.

First up take nice pictures of peoples houses then put your details on the image and post it too them, they are more than likely to stick it on their fridge.

Second find a restaurant who will display your images at no charge to them, and put little price tags on them so people can buy them if they like them, don't forget to put a margin in for the restaurant! I have seen this quite a bit, especially around tourist destinations.

[NordieBoy]

Couple of nice photos tonight, Fran yours has potential but isn't quite there. Some post processing could make it really good though.
Too much grime on it to bring it out much.
Now if the grime was in the shape of a footprint :D

Just put up my first "Reflections" post.

[weka2000]

Got my quote for 70-200 from Harvey $3999 "what"! I asked for the non IS verson.

Seems the markup is higher than Auckland camera due to the amount they get in.

All the Cafes at Mangere bridge have peoples work on display for sale as well

[CliveyBoy]

Got my quote for 70-200 from Harvey $3999 "what"! I asked for the non IS verson.

My first experience with Canon IS was on binoculars, where the difference is fantastic. No more non-IS lenses after that. My daughter has the 70-200 IS, and was horrified that anyone would consider non-IS. She broke the family's bank to get the lens, but what a difference! (We are helping out with household costs as a consequence.)

Stabilising on zoom, and handheld shutter speeds of 1/10th in low light, are great. Mind you, my stability is nowhere near as good as when I was 20-30! If you're over 45, you too will be increasingly affected. You are unlikely to upgrade to the IS version, and face years of regret and less-than-the-best images. :(

Canon IS rules.

[weka2000]

Thats what a tripod is for. IS is turned off when on a tripod, the lens is a lot heavier and its a lot more expensive. I could get the 17-40 F4 and 70-200 F2.8 for the same price as the 70-200 IS.

$4k is a lot of money for 1 lens, and I cannot justify that to myself

[CliveyBoy]

If you are always shooting in circumstances where a tripod can be used, I agree. My daughter, and her daughter, and I all do shots of performers, and multisporters, and functions, so our needs are different. Not that I will ever have the capacity to purchase L.

It is heavier, and my daughter finds it difficult after several hours of shooting.

As I posted a few days ago, you can get it for $3,239.48, which I was comparing to the 3,999 you referred to for non-IS.

[dgcorner]

Thats what a tripod is for. IS is turned off when on a tripod, the lens is a lot heavier and its a lot more expensive. I could get the 17-40 F4 and 70-200 F2.8 for the same price as the 70-200 IS.

$4k is a lot of money for 1 lens, and I cannot justify that to myself

I have to agree that $4K is a humongous amount for a single lens... unless you are making a living out of it or have the equivalent of 100X the amount in the bank (or winning the Lotto) making the $4k look like change:D

And since I don't fall into any of the two/three categories then I will have to live with non-IS versions for a wee while more... like maybe till the IS version becomes so common-place that it no longer costs an arm and a leg.:rolleyes:

[weka2000]

We need to have a group pool, but we have already been there :)

I just dont want to have to pay $2600 to Harvey when I can get it in from the US for $1700.

Its just that I hate having to wait :(.................. get now pay later :)

Mind you with the move I made to pay back harvey ASAP means in a month I will be free and $1k a month for "L" glass
Personally I would rather get it all in 1 hit and be done with it.

[Wazza]

Have you not seen the exhange rates lately Tony? $1700US is $2600. Plus add on $100 for shipping, and waiting 1-3 weeks. For the same cost or slightly more I'd buy local.. Only reason I bought B&H is coz I paid $6700 instead of 8800 from local.

[weka2000]

That was $1700 NZD converted

[Wazza]

Ok, that's a lot cheaper. Doing studio work, have you thought about something cheap and sharp also, like the 85mm 1.8?

[weka2000]

Ok, that's a lot cheaper. Doing studio work, have you thought about something cheap and sharp also, like the 85mm 1.8?

1 lens at a time. Still unsure about the whole Studio work thing. I need to shoot a stranger to see if its for me or not. At the end of the day I perfer Nature but that dosnt pay.

At this stage its 70-200 then 17-40 then?

Im wondering if its worth keeping the bigma. Canon 70-200 with 2xTC When would I ever use the bigma.

Offers anyone also sell my Kenko Pro 300 TC that works great on it.

[dgcorner]

Tony, IMHO given that you are spending an arm & a leg (and then some) for your studio Warren may have a point regarding the 85mm 1.8 -- you can't find a sharper lens for the money you spend.

If I were in your shoes (which I know I am not in) I would probably ditch the super zooms, retain the mids and shorts for the waterfalls, and invest in pristine primes for your set-up... but that's just me ;-)

Now back to producing the school camp picture DVD... and to call Pete too!!! Where the heck did the morning go?

[weka2000]

Still waiting for quote. Been 2 weeks. Remember its first and formost a garage to park cars but there is an area that could be used as a studio.

[weka2000]

If I were in your shoes (which I know I am not in) I would probably ditch the super zooms, retain the mids and shorts for the waterfalls, and invest in pristine primes for your set-up... but that's just me ;-)


Yes your right but the bigma has been like a good faithful freind and the moment I sell it I will want another super telephoto. For the 5D it would be the 300-800 Sigmonster

[FlyingPete]

Now back to producing the school camp picture DVD... and to call Pete too!!! Where the heck did the morning go?

I'm in town now, (in a cafe drinking coffee :D, gotta love mobile broadband :D :D ) just about to head back...

Tony you could keep an eye out for a second hand 70-200, mine was $1200 (TradeMe), only thing wrong with it was a few dings, makes it look well used, and I don't have to worry about it! Optics are perfect though.

[weka2000]

I'm in town now, (in a cafe drinking coffee :D, gotta love mobile broadband :D :D ) just about to head back...

Tony you could keep an eye out for a second hand 70-200, mine was $1200 (TradeMe), only thing wrong with it was a few dings, makes it look well used, and I don't have to worry about it! Optics are perfect though.

They are few and far between, tell you what I will give you 1400 for yours and you can tell Mrs Pete you made a profit

[theflyingkiwi]

...85mm 1.8 -- you can't find a sharper lens for the money you spend.

this might upset a couple of people, but what about the 50 1.8? that's a good little lens for the price ;) not to sure on what it's like a 5D tho.

[dgcorner]

this might upset a couple of people, but what about the 50 1.8? that's a good little lens for the price ;) not to sure on what it's like a 5D tho.

Uh oh... that's like spreading blood to attract a shark... namely TIM :lol: He has his opinions about that one... Oops... here he is jumping in :lol: :lol: :lol:

But, because it is a free world, I still keep my nifty... though it is collecting more and more dust these days...:rolleyes:

[tim]

Don't forget shipping and GST when buying from B&H.

First up take nice pictures of peoples houses then put your details on the image and post it too them, they are more than likely to stick it on their fridge.

I'd be a little freaked out if someone took photos of my house and posted them too me.

[weka2000]

50mm F1.8 is sharp on the 5D, and it has manual foot zoom :)

[downunder]

At the end of last year I was looking at prices for the 70-200is and found it on Jonathons Camera and video's website (christchurch) for $2599 which sounded to good to be true so I ordered it quickly, sure enough it was to good to be true,they had made an error. They were really good about it though and gave it to me for $2899 including delivery. I was a happy chappy even if my credit card balance looked sick.

[weka2000]

At the end of last year I was looking at prices for the 70-200is and found it on Jonathons Camera and video's website (christchurch) for $2599 which sounded to good to be true so I ordered it quickly, sure enough it was to good to be true,they had made an error. They were really good about it though and gave it to me for $2899 including delivery. I was a happy chappy even if my credit card balance looked sick.

Was the IS worth the extra?

[weka2000]

Made offer for a 17-40 F4 and 70-200 F4 + colar for $2100.

Bringing a 70-200 into NZ will be about $1850 total $2200 at Auckland camera
At the end of the day I feel im better getting a 2 for 1 deal.

[NordieBoy]

Offers anyone also sell my Kenko Pro 300 TC that works great on it.
1.4x or 2x?

[weka2000]

1.4x or 2x? 2X

[NordieBoy]

Damn.
I sold my Kenko MC7 2x and am selling a Canon 2x on TradeMe at the moment.
I want a Kenko pro or Sigma 1.4x

[weka2000]

Made offer for a 17-40 F4 and 70-200 F4 + colar for $2100.



Guy accepted.

[joeseph]

am selling a Canon 2x on TradeMe at the moment.

I have a Kenko 2x and it's pretty much unused as it makes everything too dark/soft what's the Canon 2x like by comparison?

[joeseph]

Guy accepted.
Quick! change your signature! :lol: well done Tony...

[CliveyBoy]

Guy accepted.

Congrats on good buy.

[weka2000]

Quick! change your signature! :lol: well done Tony...

The desision came down to needs verses wants verses money. Its a start If I dont like the 70-200 F4 I will sell it and upgrade. For what I do at the moment F4 is fine. I did want a 17-40 anyway.

[FlyingPete]

Guy accepted.

That is a good buy!

[weka2000]

That is a good buy!

Auckland camera would have come to $2680 without collar. The lens are only 6 months old

Pete love the update sig

[downunder]

Was the IS worth the extra?

For me yes, as I use it for sports photography without a tripod, also have used it for candid pics and its great

[downunder]

I have a Kenko 2x and it's pretty much unused as it makes everything too dark/soft what's the Canon 2x like by comparison?

bought one to take to the comm games but didn't use it much as most of the photography was lowish light. You are welcome to try it out if you want.

[theflyingkiwi]

Guy accepted.

Congrats, you love the 17-40. it's a great lens.

[forsaken]

savings are going nicely so soon should have the sigma 70 -200 f2.8 in my hot little hands :)

[Moppie]

My savings for a 30D were going really well, then I had to pay the lawyers.
Total cost was worth a 30D plus 17-85IS kit from Harvey Norman.

[scotttnz]

The desision came down to needs verses wants verses money. Its a start If I dont like the 70-200 F4 I will sell it and upgrade. For what I do at the moment F4 is fine. I did want a 17-40 anyway.

Well done! 17-40 is on my "keep your eyes open for a bargin" list. I don't think I would miss the long end as much as I would mis the short end on say a 24-70. I would probably get a 50 f1.8 to plug the gap.

[weka2000]

Went and had a look gave him a deposit, will ring tha bank tommorow and see if the give be a 1 week loan so I can get my new "L's" home. Saterday is waterfall day if weather is fine.

[weka2000]

My savings for a 30D were going really well, then I had to pay the lawyers.
Total cost was worth a 30D plus 17-85IS kit from Harvey Norman.

You know the problem with lawyers is that they take forever to send out the dam bill. So you sit on the money and wait for them to get around to billing you. Then you have no dam idea what the bill is going to be anyway.

[weka2000]

Well done! 17-40 is on my "keep your eyes open for a bargin" list. I don't think I would miss the long end as much as I would mis the short end on say a 24-70. I would probably get a 50 f1.8 to plug the gap.

You already have a wide... oh you waiting for my 17-40 now ;)
well Im going to use this one unlike my 10-20 (note to self find out what else UWA is good for).

[dgcorner]

My savings for a 30D were going really well, then I had to pay the lawyers.
Total cost was worth a 30D plus 17-85IS kit from Harvey Norman.

Eh? The lawyers cost you that much to purchase a house?!?!? Either you purchased a humongous house or hired expensive guns... ;) Then again, the last time I dealt with a lawyer was the other year and for property worth $250K... I was "knocked" off my seat when I got the bill... and so were the owners' of the trust that I was looking after:rolleyes:

[dgcorner]

You already have a wide... oh you waiting for my 17-40 now ;)
well Im going to use this one unlike my 10-20 (note to self find out what else UWA is good for).

Tony, hang on to the 10-20 a little longer... or enough time for me to save up for it:lol: ... or maybe the 70-200?:lol: or maybe the 5D... since I can see you dreaming about the 1Ds MkII:lol:

[weka2000]

Scott brought my 10-20 months ago and now he is eyeing up my 17-40 :)
Frans got his eye on my 50-500.

The 5D's a keeper.

Just been looking through my EF lens works III book working out whats next.

[NordieBoy]

I have a Kenko 2x and it's pretty much unused as it makes everything too dark/soft what's the Canon 2x like by comparison?
I have absolutely no idea.
Neither my friend or I have a lens that will fit the bugger.

I regret selling my Kenko MC7 2x a bit but I got $150 for it and only paid $75.

And I can't see myself shooting anything that needs the distance at the moment.

[Moppie]

Eh? The lawyers cost you that much to purchase a house?!?!?

The house transaction wasn't to bad, it was the agreements Amanda and I have to have between each other to keep the Bank and her Trust happy that jacked the price up.

Unforunatly it does put rather a hold on any decent gear unless I come across and un-expected windfall.
Anyone know this weekends Lotto numbers?

[MattL]

Hey this mayb slightly OT, but I know there are a couple of us here who will be saddend by this news :

We finally have a release date for the new album. The album will be available in all the usual places starting Monday, Jun the 26th.

We will be holding an album release party at '420 K Rd' above rising sun on June the 24th. Sadly this will also be Tadpole's last ever show. We hope you can make it along to celebrate the new album and 12 years of Tadpole!



Door sales only - $20 from 8:00pm.

[weka2000]

The house transaction wasn't to bad, it was the agreements Amanda and I have to have between each other to keep the Bank and her Trust happy that jacked the price up.



True love dosnt come cheap :lol:

[dgcorner]

Hey this mayb slightly OT, but I know there are a couple of us here who will be saddend by this news :

Did the Tadpoles decide to become frogs?:lol: j/k;)

Seriously, it is sad that a group disbands for what ever reason... especially when they have regular "fans" of their music or work.

[dgcorner]

The house transaction wasn't to bad, it was the agreements Amanda and I have to have between each other to keep the Bank and her Trust happy that jacked the price up.

Unforunatly it does put rather a hold on any decent gear unless I come across and un-expected windfall.
Anyone know this weekends Lotto numbers?

Moppie, I can sympathise with you... I had to sign a pre-nup instigated by my father-in-law when Tina and I got married in '91. Tina was horrified that her father made it a condition for giving us a house.

Cutting a long story short, I signed the papers without looking at the details (which left the lawyers horrified and aghast) -- all I told them was that I didn't care what was stipulated on the documents, I was marrying Tina for who she was and not what she had.

Funnily enough, I've become the favored son-in-law after all these years!:lol:

[FlyingPete]

Anyone know this weekends Lotto numbers?

I am sure I have them around here somewhere, I will try and dig them up. I make a habit of sending the numbers back to myself after the draw in my black hole time vortex thingy I have under the house. I never buy a ticket though, just in case I mess with the fabric of time etc... So if you use the numbers and end up not being born or something wierd (or worse become a Nikon owner!), don't blame me.

[weka2000]

My father in law cant stand me. May have something to do with the fact I didnt ask him for his blessing or her hand.

Meet on friday, engaged by following friday married 4 months later. No pre nup

Oh well get over it dad :lol:

[Moppie]

So if you use the numbers and end up not being born or something wierd (or worse become a Nikon owner!), don't blame me.


I could handle the not being born, but I don't know about becoming a Noink Owner. *shudder*

Tell you what, send me the numbers and Ill have a think about it.

[FlyingPete]

I could handle the not being born, but I don't know about becoming a Noink Owner. *shudder*

Tell you what, send me the numbers and Ill have a think about it.

OK, 32 28 40 23 21 7, in that order powerball is 4. If you use it I wouldn't mind a contribution to my wee project, keeping a blackhole contained consumes a lot of power, and we wouldn't want it getting out, in fact it would probably suck up half the solar system, and I am sure everyone will feel quite put out.

[Moppie]

Depends which half of the solar system it takes with it.
I understand though, Ill give you 10% how about that?

[weka2000]

Now what would happen if they were in fact the winning numbers. Moppie would be over the moon and Pete well what would your wife say :lol:

[mrmeal]

I could handle the not being born, but I don't know about becoming a Noink Owner. *shudder*

Tell you what, send me the numbers and Ill have a think about it.

Hey hey hey, lol still in the room people :o) Okay I'll be quiet now......
I

[dgcorner]

Hey hey hey, lol still in the room people :o) Okay I'll be quiet now......
I

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[FlyingPete]

Now what would happen if they were in fact the winning numbers. Moppie would be over the moon and Pete well what would your wife say :lol:

Doesn't sound like you believe me, well here is a photo of the old basement:
http://www.flyingpete.nzpages.net/zmachine.jpg

[weka2000]

Couldnt wait till next wednesday to pick up my new canon lens, the bank gave me an advance :lol:

Took the kids to the park had a quick play. ummmm red is becomming my favorite colour.

Im going out to Karekare saterday morning early (8ish) waterfalls and the beach anyone intrested in tagging along let me know

[Moppie]

Would love to come Saturday, but will be the start of cleaning the House.



House Warming This Sat Evening.

Start around 4ish, go till we finnish.

PM if you would like to come and Ill send the address and directions.

[forsaken]

bugger. I've got a game on on Saturady night :(

hope your house warming goes well mr Moppie

[scotttnz]

Doesn't sound like you believe me, well here is a photo of the old basement:

Pete, I'm not sure if that was a good idea. If the CIA are monitoring this forum, they will tell President Bush, and then he will invade New Zealand and say he was looking for weapons of mass destruction.

I think you better go back in time and stop yourself from posting that picture. I know it's a risk, you could disrupt the space time continuim, but the consequence of not doing it could be far greater.

[NordieBoy]

What picture?
Who is Pete?

[weka2000]

Pete, I'm not sure if that was a good idea. If the CIA are monitoring this forum, they will tell President Bush, and then he will invade New Zealand and say he was looking for weapons of mass destruction.

I think you better go back in time and stop yourself from posting that picture. I know it's a risk, you could disrupt the space time continuim, but the consequence of not doing it could be far greater.

huh...is this another movie I missed growing up :confused:

[theflyingkiwi]

huh...is this another movie I missed growing up :confused:

Yep, it's called Back to the future. Or if you are really keen there are a number of star trek episodes I could point ya to. :)

[weka2000]

Yep, it's called Back to the future. Or if you are really keen there are a number of star trek episodes I could point ya to. :)

My wife is the movie fan in our house, she gets all those movies out for our girls. She loves si-fi and musicals. Never watched much TV growing up and even till this day TV is a thing that dosnt really intrest me.

Give me a book with pictures, maps and diagrams and music. I guess TV and movies represent escapeism from the real world in my mind, but hey each to their own.

[joeseph]

Yep, it's called Back to the future. Or if you are really keen there are a number of star trek episodes I could point ya to. :)
Thought it sounded more like enemy of the state... ;)

[theflyingkiwi]

Thought it sounded more like enemy of the state... ;)

yea but that's more big brother wathcing you, unless I am thinking of the wrong movie :)

hmm thinking about it, it's really more like Time Cop.

[FlyingPete]

Its based on sound quantum theory. It goes a bit like this, the gravitational pull of a black hole is so great that it bends light around in a tight spiral circle before it crosses the event horizon (the edge of the black hole or singularity), at this point for various quantum physics reasons slows and finally stops at the event horizon.

So if you can get something in and out of the event horizon of a black hole you can theoretically time travel, but then there is the minor issue of massive gravity and being crushed to a microscopic speck.

Now quantum physicists theorise that they can recreate the event horizon using extremely powerful magnets and really grunty (nice scientific word) lasers, basically they use the magnets to twist the laser light into a vortex, creating the event horizon where time has stopped.

It is highly unlikely that any physical object would survive a trip in such a device, but it may be possible to communicate through it, so messages could be sent back and forward in time across it, but only as far as the machine has been running not further, so if it has been running for a year, you can communicate anytime over that last year, or to however far it remains on in the future.

Of course this sucker requires massive amounts of power and technology that doesn't currently exist (except in my basement of course), but the theory is sound :rolleyes:

[FlyingPete]

Would love to come Saturday, but will be the start of cleaning the House.



House Warming This Sat Evening.

Start around 4ish, go till we finnish.

PM if you would like to come and Ill send the address and directions.

Pencil me in, we can also all sit down and watch Lotto...

[theflyingkiwi]

Give me a book with pictures, maps and diagrams and music. I guess TV and movies represent escapeism from the real world in my mind, but hey each to their own.

Nothing like the pictures in a book :). I tried to ring lord of the rings and got stuck on the 2nd book. ohh well.

All the TV I watch is custom to my viewing habbits, with no ads. It's great :)

[scotttnz]

I guess TV and movies represent escapeism from the real world in my mind

That is exactly what i like about movies.....but on the other hand I find most TV boring....go figure...

[weka2000]

Its based on sound quantum theory. It goes a bit like this, the gravitational pull of a black hole is so great that it bends light around in a tight spiral circle before it crosses the event horizon (the edge of the black hole or singularity), at this point for various quantum physics reasons slows and finally stops at the event horizon.

So if you can get something in and out of the event horizon of a black hole you can theoretically time travel, but then there is the minor issue of massive gravity and being crushed to a microscopic speck.

Now quantum physicists theorise that they can recreate the event horizon using extremely powerful magnets and really grunty (nice scientific word) lasers, basically they use the magnets to twist the laser light into a vortex, creating the event horizon where time has stopped.

It is highly unlikely that any physical object would survive a trip in such a device, but it may be possible to communicate through it, so messages could be sent back and forward in time across it, but only as far as the machine has been running not further, so if it has been running for a year, you can communicate anytime over that last year, or to however far it remains on in the future.

Of course this sucker requires massive amounts of power and technology that doesn't currently exist (except in my basement of course), but the theory is sound :rolleyes:

Man thats way to much for this simple southern boy. You eastern lads watch way to much TV :lol:

Man that reminds me of the day by boss (ex english teacher) gave me a compliament took me a day to get it. I will stick with small words like yes and no, no been my favorite :)

[dgcorner]

Its based on sound quantum theory. It goes a bit like this, the gravitational pull of a black hole is so great that it bends light around in a tight spiral circle before it crosses the event horizon (the edge of the black hole or singularity), at this point for various quantum physics reasons slows and finally stops at the event horizon.

So if you can get something in and out of the event horizon of a black hole you can theoretically time travel, but then there is the minor issue of massive gravity and being crushed to a microscopic speck.

Now quantum physicists theorise that they can recreate the event horizon using extremely powerful magnets and really grunty (nice scientific word) lasers, basically they use the magnets to twist the laser light into a vortex, creating the event horizon where time has stopped.

It is highly unlikely that any physical object would survive a trip in such a device, but it may be possible to communicate through it, so messages could be sent back and forward in time across it, but only as far as the machine has been running not further, so if it has been running for a year, you can communicate anytime over that last year, or to however far it remains on in the future.

Of course this sucker requires massive amounts of power and technology that doesn't currently exist (except in my basement of course), but the theory is sound :rolleyes:

Crickey, deja vu... where have I "heard" all this before... Star Trek, Back to the Future 1,2,3,; The Time Machine, Time Cop, That movie where the aircraft carrier went back in time to WWII... The One, Terminator :lol:

Mind you I've done my fair share of time travel... hopped on a few planes to the USA and arrived the same day... left the USA came back and lost 2 days in the process... :lol:

[theflyingkiwi]

Its based on sound quantum theory. It goes a bit like this, the gravitational pull of a black hole is so great that it bends light around in a tight spiral circle before it crosses the event horizon (the edge of the black hole or singularity), at this point for various quantum physics reasons slows and finally stops at the event horizon.

So if you can get something in and out of the event horizon of a black hole you can theoretically time travel, but then there is the minor issue of massive gravity and being crushed to a microscopic speck.

Now quantum physicists theorise that they can recreate the event horizon using extremely powerful magnets and really grunty (nice scientific word) lasers, basically they use the magnets to twist the laser light into a vortex, creating the event horizon where time has stopped.

It is highly unlikely that any physical object would survive a trip in such a device, but it may be possible to communicate through it, so messages could be sent back and forward in time across it, but only as far as the machine has been running not further, so if it has been running for a year, you can communicate anytime over that last year, or to however far it remains on in the future.

Of course this sucker requires massive amounts of power and technology that doesn't currently exist (except in my basement of course), but the theory is sound :rolleyes:

You know there are special room for people like you, which normal involve white clothing and a rubber room. :)

[dgcorner]

Here's one for you IT geeks :p -- what is a good webcam? I'm looking to purchase one and I'm seeing these 480K & 1300K pixel ones on TradeMe and I'm just getting more confused:rolleyes: There are the cheapos with high specs (1300K pixel) and then there are the flash-priced ones that only offer 480K or lower pixels...

I'm also thinking of buying a USB Voip phone that I can use to save on calls to my folks in Manila... I've seen these RJ11 boxes but the technology is way beyond me:lol:

[Moppie]

Its based on sound quantum theory. ..............
....Of course this sucker requires massive amounts of power and technology that doesn't currently exist (except in my basement of course), but the theory is sound :rolleyes:


Iv been doing that with my Microwave, never thought of useing it to send messages though.


You know the black Helicopters are comeing for you now don't you?

[theflyingkiwi]

well I weka is not the only one buying things this week. I just brought myself a 1.4x sigma adaptor, give me some reach and a cable for the flash thing, @ for $454

All from the camera shop in CHCH.

now the problem is I know there are some other stuff that I would like to buy. I just don't have the need yet. :)

[NordieBoy]

That movie where the aircraft carrier went back in time to WWII...
Final Countdown

:oops:

[dgcorner]

Gosh, all the sci-fi movie buffs are out tonight!:lol:

[Moppie]

Final Countdown

:oops:


Thats a great movie, F14s trying to shoot down Zeros!

[tim]

Here's one for you IT geeks :p -- what is a good webcam? I'm looking to purchase one and I'm seeing these 480K & 1300K pixel ones on TradeMe and I'm just getting more confused:rolleyes: There are the cheapos with high specs (1300K pixel) and then there are the flash-priced ones that only offer 480K or lower pixels...

I'm also thinking of buying a USB Voip phone that I can use to save on calls to my folks in Manila... I've seen these RJ11 boxes but the technology is way beyond me:lol:

I have one of there (http://www.ascent.co.nz/ProductSpecification.aspx?ItemID=345818), it works well, and it's only $40 with free shipping.