GKPE: General Ramblings thread

[klippe]

and you know your right.

Not sure of the context in which to take your statement. Please clarify.

Not sure if you think I am being harsh, or if in fact you think I am correct in something I've said?

I think there are some here who genuinely want to have a crack at it. Some not. To each his own, I am certainly not in a position to judge anyone for what they want from life.

But if we are keen, we need to "Do" to achieve.

Cliff

[DiscoLizard]

There are certainly issues that would have to be dealt with, as with any business. Tax etc would have to be sorted out prior to any investment.

There would need to be a standard agreement between the website and the photographer regarding rights to sale, etc as well. The idea would be to have the photographer remain a photographer...

- Photographer would need to submit the full size as well as the web size, as accidents can happen (people's home computers may fail)

- There would need to be some sort of limit on how many images each photographer could have up for sale at any one time (a bit contentious, but it makes sense in many ways; it's a communal website - no one photographer should dominate, web space, makes people submit only their best work, etc)

- A variable return to the photographer (say for example, 5% commission on first 10 sales of a particular photo, then 2% thereafter - which would obviously go into paying for the website first, then any excess return after costs from all sales at the end of the month is equally split between the members)


There's a lot of stuff to work out... But it would be silly to work this stuff out without first gauging the interest.

[DiscoLizard]

In short, as a photographer you'd be submitting your best images as you created them, and that would be the end of your involvement, other than getting the money in at the end of the month/payment period.

Communally owned website, so any new members would have to be voted in, or whatever.

This would not be a stock photography website, however. Prints would be the money maker - the website would be responsible for ordering/dispatching prints, not the individual photographer.

[theflyingkiwi]

Not sure of the context in which to take your statement. Please clarify.

Not sure if you think I am being harsh, or if in fact you think I am correct in something I've said?

I think there are some here who genuinely want to have a crack at it. Some not. To each his own, I am certainly not in a position to judge anyone for what they want from life.

But if we are keen, we need to "Do" to achieve.

Cliff

When I say your right that's what I mean. Nothing hidden there. it just means I agree with what you said.

Oh I would love a crack at some other things when it comes to photography, such as models and landscapes. But for the studio stuff, if I knew enough people and in akl I might have put my hand in. As for the stock photography thing again it would be interesting and I would like a way to earn extra $$$.

But for these things to happen someone has to spend a lot of time setting it all up and going on from there. A number of people around here have families and also work full time.

[klippe]

In short, as a photographer you'd be submitting your best images as you created them, and that would be the end of your involvement, other than getting the money in at the end of the month/payment period.

Communally owned website, so any new members would have to be voted in, or whatever.

This would not be a stock photography website, however. Prints would be the money maker - the website would be responsible for ordering/dispatching prints, not the individual photographer.

Is it worth cutting off the possibility of stock sales? Could there be two sections to the site - prints and stock?

[theflyingkiwi]

Is it worth cutting off the possibility of stock sales? Could there be two sections to the site - prints and stock?

that's the thing about stock photography.

Anyway my best photos seem to change each year. and I don't know about you u but I shoot digital so I can always take some more photos. :)

[DiscoLizard]

Is it worth cutting off the possibility of stock sales? Could there be two sections to the site - prints and stock?

Potentially, but the trouble with stock is that it has to be very high volume in order to make any money at all. There are international agencies already in a hugely advantageous position - established market, recognised names, powerful systems to keep up with traffic and storage, very detailed and intelligent database setups, etc.

Stock is hard to do, and low profit until you build up to a certain level, which requires a larger investment than most of us are willing to make.


So basically that would be out, however, the option to sell the rights to a photo would certainly be something that could be considered on a case by case basis. It would just be a judgement call by the group as to whether a photo could earn more as a one-off, or as a series of prints. I think the website would have to take a larger % in this case to cover costs.





Edit: Not to mention that it's confusing for people to log on to a website and see a million photos.

I was thinking 10-15 photos each from 15-20 people would probably be about right, each photographer having 2-3 images and a short profile on the front page, as a very sketch design. Obviously it's all up for debate...

[Moppie]

I like your ideas here, Disco, certianly a step in the right direction.

However, I think the photographer should be allowed to set the price for thier work, with a minimum charge being applied to cover the operating costs of the website, and then a percentage of the sale after that.
Of course what those operating costs are would have to be worked out, and will it be a non-profit organsiation, or does it pay an administrator, printer/despatcher to do the leg work? Then it has to worry about Paye etc as well.

Basicaly I would supply an image, in web size and high res, and put a price on it.
The website would sell it, collect the money, print it, and post it.
I would collect the price I put on it minus the costs to the website.

As soon as you start dividing up money left over at the end, amonst all the members then you get problems with those who sold less getting money made my those who sold more, which will lead to problems.

And as soon as the website starts to show a profit, it becomes a business, and subject to all laws taxes etc.

[Moppie]

With regard to Intent vs action......

I have lots of intent, what I lack is the action.
Things like a full time job and a mortgage have put paid to that for a little while.
Once I have adaptoped to the idea of a more stable life, then I look at more seriously persueing some photography.

[theflyingkiwi]

With regard to Intent vs action......

Trust me your not the only one. I should be looking for work :)

[DiscoLizard]

I like your ideas here, Disco, certianly a step in the right direction.

However, I think the photographer should be allowed to set the price for thier work, with a minimum charge being applied to cover the operating costs of the website, and then a percentage of the sale after that.
Of course what those operating costs are would have to be worked out, and will it be a non-profit organsiation, or does it pay an administrator, printer/despatcher to do the leg work? Then it has to worry about Paye etc as well.

Basicaly I would supply an image, in web size and high res, and put a price on it.
The website would sell it, collect the money, print it, and post it.
I would collect the price I put on it minus the costs to the website.

As soon as you start dividing up money left over at the end, amonst all the members then you get problems with those who sold less getting money made my those who sold more, which will lead to problems.

And as soon as the website starts to show a profit, it becomes a business, and subject to all laws taxes etc.


Yup, all good points. As I say, I haven't fleshed it out at all, just been thinking about it.

A minimum price is a good idea, as the last thing you'd want would be the contributors getting into a price war with each other.

The reason for splitting the profits is to encourage group participation - if you know that you can earn more by helping someone else get a better photo up for sale, you'd be pretty keen to help them, I'd imagine. Perhaps the revenue would be split as follows;

x% (10%?) to website + operating costs
y% (70%?) to submitting photographer
z% (20%?) to group payout pool

The idea is that it's a community of photographers who are incentivised to improve their own, and the rest of the community's standard of photography.

However, if that part isn't possible, it's not possible. Of course, you're always going to wind up with someone contributing more revenue to the running of the website than someone else, if everyone isn't selling at least a certain volume.

I think there'd have to be some sort of incentive to someone to actually organise all of this too, but that depends on the level of participation by everyone.

[Moppie]

Perhaps the revenue would be split as follows;

x% (10%?) to website + operating costs
y% (70%?) to submitting photographer
z% (20%?) to group payout pool

The idea is that it's a community of photographers who are incentivised to improve their own, and the rest of the community's standard of photography.


Its a lovely idea, and just like socialism sadly thats about as far as such things ever get. Ultimatly the reality and ideal never meet.

With a percentage going to a group pay out your relying on pure ulturisim to ensure every one contributes.
Sadly ulturisim is another one of those wonderful ideals.
The reality is it suddenly becomes very easy for one person to contribute mediocare photos, not sell very many, yet still get a nice pay out because the rest of the group or working hard, submitting top quality work, and getting the sales.

While its nice to share in the sucess of others, I would have ethical problems with gaining from someone elses sucess, and I know I would have problems with someone gaining from my own.

[DiscoLizard]

Fair enough, and if that's the prevailing opinion, then the group payout doesn't happen. I'm not really attached to any one idea, other than the money making :)

[scotttnz]

I'm with Moppie on that one. I think it would be better to have 80% going to the photog and 20% going to the website. And the website should pay the people implementing and looking after it.

It would still benefit everyone involved. I would probably put photos on it if it was easy. But I don't want no free lunch. If my photos are good enough, and people pay money for them great, if not, I don't want to take profit that rightfully belongs to people whose photos are better than mine.

[scotttnz]

I could probably contribute on the IT skills(although no shortage of IT nouse around here!) and may even have a server that would be OK for a startup box (but if it took off would probably need to be replaced because it's a bit old and out of warranty!)

[Nzshrimper]

ive just booked all the tier one motorsport weekends flights for $460 (ni events) including hamilton aussie v8s and A1gp... :) now me very happy..

at least 50% off the costs..

2-4 nov pukie (akl)
18 -20 jan taupo (akl)
15-17 feb manfield (welly)
18-20 april hammy.. (akl)

[dgcorner]

Time for a photo?
On Sunday, Tommy my oldest found these & tried to photograph them for me. Actually both boys did a pretty good job cutting the bush back & weeding to get a view, they where only missing the tripod & mirror lockup function.
These where taken with my 17-85 lens. Since it's repair it is taking fantastic pictures.


Do those things have hallucinogenic effects by any chance:p

With regard to Intent vs action......

I have lots of intent, what I lack is the action.

:o:lol:I'm in the same boat then...

[scotttnz]

WOW, the DSLR market is hotting up! Nikon have announced the D3 and D300.....interesting specs over at DPreview....

[dgcorner]

Wahoooooooo! It really pays to get a 2nd, 3rd, and even a 4th opinion on a medical condition that supposedly requires some form of surgery...

Unless I am rushed to the A&E with a ruptured intestine, I don't need an operation!!!! Wheeeeew! The doctor I saw this afternoon says that I should think long and hard if I want to push the system to get an operation that I don't really need... (I wouldn't have been pushing if it were not for the lack of information being given to me by a couple of other doctors!) The actual operation is far worse than "just removing a cancerous growth"!!!

Whew, that felt like a huge thorn being pulled out of me... I can now sleep better at night!

WRC here I come!!!

[scotttnz]

Hmmmmm ISO 25600! yes twenty five thousand, six hundred!!!

[downunder]

Wahoooooooo! It really pays to get a 2nd, 3rd, and even a 4th opinion on a medical condition that supposedly requires some form of surgery...

Unless I am rushed to the A&E with a ruptured intestine, I don't need an operation!!!! Wheeeeew! The doctor I saw this afternoon says that I should think long and hard if I want to push the system to get an operation that I don't really need... (I wouldn't have been pushing if it were not for the lack of information being given to me by a couple of other doctors!) The actual operation is far worse than "just removing a cancerous growth"!!!

Whew, that felt like a huge thorn being pulled out of me... I can now sleep better at night!

WRC here I come!!!

Thats good news John and I'm sure some relief

[Nzshrimper]

WRC here I come!!!

sweet - so thats 8 confimed i think..

[S-S]

hooray john great news :-)

[theflyingkiwi]

WOW, the DSLR market is hotting up! Nikon have announced the D3 and D300.....interesting specs over at DPreview....

well I guess there is going to be a lot of people pixel peeping today then.

and a lot saying that canon has missed the boat

[tag141]

I must have thought setting up a members website to provide access for people to buy prints/images was too easy.

If someone wants a print, the photographer gets an email and has full responsibility of printing it out and sending it off etc.

If someone wants to download an image for editorial use they can do it there and then.

The photographer is personally responsible for declaring their own earnings etc.

The person who administers the site can have their donation waived in lieu of the work done. And $35 per week is a lot different from say $35 a year for hosting.

My thinking for the site would be for someone like me to upload a bunch of images from the local karting. Karting members can then go online and order prints if they want. I can then get hold off magazines and newspapers around the world asking if they are interested in the images.

[DiscoLizard]

There's nothing stopping people doing that on their own websites already tag - it's just that I've heard a lot of people saying that they can't be bothered.

This wouldn't be a place for putting up a whole bunch of images from local karting - you could do that on your own host (ya don't want everyone uploading 200 images from each event, or you'll run out of bandwidth and diskspace pretty quick, not to mention the clutter for anyone actually stumbling onto the website).

This would be a place to upload 10-20 of your greatest hits, and then you leave them, updating them every now and then, as you take better photos. Put em up and forget about em. Prints go local and international, shipping etc is worked out, quality is of a certain standard (in terms of framing/printing).

It's a gallery in the traditional sense of the word, I guess.

[tag141]

There's nothing stopping people doing that on their own websites already tag - it's just that I've heard a lot of people saying that they can't be bothered.

And I'm one of them. My problem is I can't be bothered rejigging my site every time I need to add an image. I see what your aiming at though. Far more professional.

[dgcorner]

Thats good news John and I'm sure some relief

sweet - so thats 8 confimed i think..

hooray john great news :-)

Thanks!!! Indeed, great news!

SS, has the postie dropped the CD off yet? Reason I ask is I've had some problems with NZPost in the past with a few CDs (White Noise) ending up in limbo.

I must have thought setting up a members website to provide access for people to buy prints/images was too easy.


Not easy but not difficult... It just takes time and a set of guidelines for people to follow.

[jasestu]

Hmmm, how's the webtail (or are they called e-tail? anyway), site going to work if one photog uploads stackloads of photos and another only 2 - 3? Probably not really an issue, but I don't think it'd be fair if it was monopolised.

(It's good to see all these issues being discussed and addressed up front before getting down the track of implementation, assuming we do get down the track of implementation at some point)

[akiwi]

I'd be interested in selling photos, though I have about 500 online for stock. I have quite a few of my favourite shots that I haven't put on stock sites.
I have my own website for events, but no sell possibility.

For payments I can recommend paypal
Do those things have hallucinogenic effects by any chance:p



:o:lol:I'm in the same boat then...
No Idea... I was scared to touch them.

Wahoooooooo! It really pays to get a 2nd, 3rd, and even a 4th opinion on a medical condition that supposedly requires some form of surgery...

Unless I am rushed to the A&E with a ruptured intestine, I don't need an operation!!!! Wheeeeew! The doctor I saw this afternoon says that I should think long and hard if I want to push the system to get an operation that I don't really need... (I wouldn't have been pushing if it were not for the lack of information being given to me by a couple of other doctors!) The actual operation is far worse than "just removing a cancerous growth"!!!

Whew, that felt like a huge thorn being pulled out of me... I can now sleep better at night!

WRC here I come!!!

Great news. If an op is not necessary, don't do it. I had a simple op go wrong a few years ago.. & it made my life very miserable for about 10 months.

And I'm one of them. My problem is I can't be bothered rejigging my site every time I need to add an image. I see what your aiming at though. Far more professional.
Get a gallery software like Singapore then. I ftp my photos into a directory, & they are there. I can fine tune them afterwards if I want to.

[tag141]

Get a gallery software like Singapore then. I ftp my photos into a directory, & they are there. I can fine tune them afterwards if I want to.

Indeed but I love the challenge of learning new programming languages.

[theflyingkiwi]

Ok here's a question for you guys. I had sent an e-mail off to AC about the price of the 40D. One of the things that I had said was that I had brought the 10D of them, which they said they would be able to use the old camera as a tradein.

Do you think it's worth doing this? At this stage still unsure if I am going to get it. I love the features :) but if I do get it, I don't know about keeping the 10D. It would be nice to have a 2nd body but I don't have any real need for it. BTW I would be trading in the 10D, battery pack for it and 2 canon batterys and 1gb cf card.

so what would you do.

[tag141]

Ok here's a question for you guys. I had sent an e-mail off to AC about the price of the 40D. One of the things that I had said was that I had brought the 10D of them, which they said they would be able to use the old camera as a tradein.

Do you think it's worth doing this? At this stage still unsure if I am going to get it. I love the features :) but if I do get it, I don't know about keeping the 10D. It would be nice to have a 2nd body but I don't have any real need for it. BTW I would be trading in the 10D, battery pack for it and 2 canon batterys and 1gb cf card.

so what would you do.

Depends on what $$$ they can offer. I fostered out my 10D as I didn't need a 2nd body and couldn't be bothered to stick it on TM.

[joeseph]

Ok here's a question for you guys. I had sent an e-mail off to AC about the price of the 40D. One of the things that I had said was that I had brought the 10D of them, which they said they would be able to use the old camera as a tradein.

Do you think it's worth doing this? At this stage still unsure if I am going to get it. I love the features :) but if I do get it, I don't know about keeping the 10D. It would be nice to have a 2nd body but I don't have any real need for it. BTW I would be trading in the 10D, battery pack for it and 2 canon batterys and 1gb cf card.

so what would you do.
You have a trademe account yes? As much as I like AC, their trade in figures are going to be about half the price they can sell gear for, so the only reason you'd do a trade-in was to avoid the hassle of selling privately. When I bought my 20D they bought my old D60 and a couple of odd lenses I'd never use again, hindsight being what it is I would have been much better off financially selling the gear individually on TM.
Have a good look at 10D prices first and see what AC will offer you and don't sell yourself short.

[rabsoft]

Potentially, but the trouble with stock is that it has to be very high volume in order to make any money at all. There are international agencies already in a hugely advantageous position - established market, recognised names, powerful systems to keep up with traffic and storage, very detailed and intelligent database setups, etc.

Stock is hard to do, and low profit until you build up to a certain level, which requires a larger investment than most of us are willing to make.


So basically that would be out, however, the option to sell the rights to a photo would certainly be something that could be considered on a case by case basis. It would just be a judgement call by the group as to whether a photo could earn more as a one-off, or as a series of prints. I think the website would have to take a larger % in this case to cover costs.

Edit: Not to mention that it's confusing for people to log on to a website and see a million photos.

I was thinking 10-15 photos each from 15-20 people would probably be about right, each photographer having 2-3 images and a short profile on the front page, as a very sketch design. Obviously it's all up for debate...


I sorta downloaded some stock site software and installed it it is payware so can't be used for a real site unless we bought it but it does seem like some good software and will give most of the options talked about
If you go to http://stock.photocorner.co.nz/ I have set it up already
It needs a bit of work to make it what we want but it does have more options like the get printed and ship out option, I don't have it turned on at the moment

have a look and tell me what you think

[scotttnz]

Ok here's a question for you guys. I had sent an e-mail off to AC about the price of the 40D. One of the things that I had said was that I had brought the 10D of them, which they said they would be able to use the old camera as a tradein.

Do you think it's worth doing this? At this stage still unsure if I am going to get it. I love the features :) but if I do get it, I don't know about keeping the 10D. It would be nice to have a 2nd body but I don't have any real need for it. BTW I would be trading in the 10D, battery pack for it and 2 canon batterys and 1gb cf card.

so what would you do.

I'd sell it and get a Nikon 300D ;)

Nah......depends what the offer you. But you can guarentee it will be less than you would get selling it on trademe.

With all the new models out, I might pick up a 20D as a second body if I can get one cheap enough. And if there are loads of people dumping Canon for the D300 and D3 like the talk around the various forums indicates it will be the perfect time to get some bargins on secondhand Canon gear.

[theflyingkiwi]

You have a trademe account yes? As much as I like AC, their trade in figures are going to be about half the price they can sell gear for, so the only reason you'd do a trade-in was to avoid the hassle of selling privately. When I bought my 20D they bought my old D60 and a couple of odd lenses I'd never use again, hindsight being what it is I would have been much better off financially selling the gear individually on TM.
Have a good look at 10D prices first and see what AC will offer you and don't sell yourself short.

I do have a trademe account, never used it tho. never brought anything on it and never sold anything.

I am a trademe virgin. never thought about getting the most of it, just getting it out of my hands would be good. :)

[rabsoft]

Ok here's a question for you guys. I had sent an e-mail off to AC about the price of the 40D. One of the things that I had said was that I had brought the 10D of them, which they said they would be able to use the old camera as a tradein.

Do you think it's worth doing this? At this stage still unsure if I am going to get it. I love the features :) but if I do get it, I don't know about keeping the 10D. It would be nice to have a 2nd body but I don't have any real need for it. BTW I would be trading in the 10D, battery pack for it and 2 canon batterys and 1gb cf card.

so what would you do.

I would personally send Glam an email and tell him you are part of this group and he will give you a trade in and a great deal on the new camera

[Mark Vuleta]

Evening all.

Every one is well by the sounds of things, good news on the medical front John.

Duncan, I have a little bit of info on the central heating unit if you want it. I'm not sure if it will be of any benifit to you. PM me a fax number or email address if you want to have a look


Mark

[S-S]

SS, has the postie dropped the CD off yet? Reason I ask is I've had some problems with NZPost in the past with a few CDs (White Noise) ending up in limbo.

hmm no not yet but most of my post has been late this month (come to think of it!) so i wouldnt give up hope yet

[theflyingkiwi]

I would personally send Glam an email and tell him you are part of this group and he will give you a trade in and a great deal on the new camera

hmmm I might do that, anyone got his e-mail address?

just seen one 10D on trademe
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Digital-cameras/Over-6-megapixel/auction-114341757.htm?p=1

buy now for $900

[momentz]

Just a qucky from our new lens. Lost a bit in the compression, but oh well :)

eeek... iso3200 dammit.. forgot AGAIN.

[Nzshrimper]

I sorta downloaded some stock site software and installed it it is payware so can't be used for a real site unless we bought it but it does seem like some good software and will give most of the options talked about
If you go to http://stock.photocorner.co.nz/ I have set it up already
It needs a bit of work to make it what we want but it does have more options like the get printed and ship out option, I don't have it turned on at the moment

have a look and tell me what you think


look at joomla

http://www.joomla.org/

[wakko]

Evening all you GKPE'ers :D

Just thought I'd share this with you all ;)

GO ALL BLACKS!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://stuff.planetslackers.com/imageshare/private/jessica/20070823_goallblacks-0001.jpg

[rabsoft]

look at joomla

http://www.joomla.org/

I already run joomla on a couple of sites but am not really happy with it, the admin interface is rather cumbersum and not easy to use, I have tried a few CMS websites but haven't found anything that would suit what we would want out of it they would all require too much work to even get close to what I put up at http://stock.photocorner.co.nz/

[DiscoLizard]

Hmmm, how's the webtail (or are they called e-tail? anyway), site going to work if one photog uploads stackloads of photos and another only 2 - 3? Probably not really an issue, but I don't think it'd be fair if it was monopolised.

(It's good to see all these issues being discussed and addressed up front before getting down the track of implementation, assuming we do get down the track of implementation at some point)

Yup, exactly, so there'd be a limit on how many each person could upload, this should also keep the quality up.

I sorta downloaded some stock site software and installed it it is payware so can't be used for a real site unless we bought it but it does seem like some good software and will give most of the options talked about
If you go to http://stock.photocorner.co.nz/ I have set it up already
It needs a bit of work to make it what we want but it does have more options like the get printed and ship out option, I don't have it turned on at the moment

have a look and tell me what you think

It looks like it has all the required features, but it's not cheap!

[S-S]

Evening all you GKPE'ers :D Just thought I'd share this with you all ;)
GO ALL BLACKS!!!!!!!!!!!!

thats a really cool shot, i wouldnt be surprised if you were able to sell that to their publicity people? have you looked into it?

[wakko]

thats a really cool shot, i wouldnt be surprised if you were able to sell that to their publicity people? have you looked into it?

Thanks :) She's growing up WAY too fast! :)

Hrmm... no I haven't... just via allblacks.co.nz?

[tongmaster]

Originally Posted by rabsoft http://photography-on-the.net/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=3779459#post3779459)
I sorta downloaded some stock site software and installed it it is payware so can't be used for a real site unless we bought it but it does seem like some good software and will give most of the options talked about
If you go to http://stock.photocorner.co.nz/ I have set it up already
It needs a bit of work to make it what we want but it does have more options like the get printed and ship out option, I don't have it turned on at the moment

have a look and tell me what you think


Great idea and I think it definitely has possibilities. I would be keen to aspire to be part of it.

I do web stuff too but am trying to get out of it and replace it with photography.

[iKirst]

Hi folks :)
My nets runs out tomorrow (took old flatty 2 weeks to remove it, ha)
So Orcon is hooking me up again on Monday.

As usual - I haven't read back (tsk tsk), but I'm sure you are all getting along swimmingly.

The flat is amazing these days. New flatty is anal with cleaning, like me. (Well, I wouldn't consider liking tidy to be anal). He loves to cook and wont let me do any of it!.
And every night, when I walk in the door, theres a wine or a Woody, or a Wild Turkey waiting for me. *hic*
He has already changed locks. Has barked at one of the ex flatties when he came to get the last of his things, and let him know that he had absolutely no time for him (hehe - the other ex flatty is alright).

And to thank him for being so fab as a domestic god, and also for encouraging my inner bogan freedom at Guns n Roses (he shouted me), I took him to see my favourite Scots Comedian. Danny Bhoy.

I have since spoken to Danny Bhoy and he gave me a kiss :lol: :oops:
And he mentioned hoping to see me again
He probably says that to all the girls :lol:

[S-S]

Thanks :) She's growing up WAY too fast! :)
Hrmm... no I haven't... just via allblacks.co.nz?

um... *blank stare* i dont follow sports at all but that might be a place to start... or ask some of the sports shooters in here for tips? good luck!

I do web stuff too but am trying to get out of it and replace it with photography.

lol, 'snap' !
got a web portfolio? *interested*

And to thank him for being so fab as a domestic god, and also for encouraging my inner bogan freedom at Guns n Roses (he shouted me), I took him to see my favourite Scots Comedian. Danny Bhoy.

I have since spoken to Danny Bhoy and he gave me a kiss :lol: :oops:
And he mentioned hoping to see me again
He probably says that to all the girls :lol:

:eek: kirst! oh my lol i am shocked!

(dont listen to me lol im just jealous - he's quite the hottie ;) )

[tag141]

New flatty is anal with cleaning,

Does he have a broom up his a**e and can sweep while he walks?

... or a Woody waiting for me.

the images that conjures up :shock:.

[iKirst]

:eek: kirst! oh my lol i am shocked!

(dont listen to me lol im just jealous - he's quite the hottie ;) )
Back off, Sistah! :lol:


Does he have a broom up his a**e and can sweep while he walks?
How on earth did you know that? have you planted cameras? :shock: :lol:



the images that conjures up :shock:.
Bourbon, ya nut. Woodstock - also my other online nickname from way back in the dark ages of the net

[tag141]

How on earth did you know that? have you planted cameras? :shock: :lol:

No, the cameras have been placed strategically around the residence. The Ficus was planted.

[downunder]

No, the cameras have been placed strategically around the residence. The Ficus was planted.

What the Fic!

[dgcorner]

so what would you do.

Mark, as long as you understand and accept that the camera becomes obsolete in 12-18 months, and a newer model will come out with more bells and whistles and at a lower price, and think of keeping it for at least 2-3 years then I would say GO FOT IT!

If you don't see yourself using the 10D, sell on TM. I agree with the others that AC will give you far less than fair market value... I probably would to considering that I might not be able to end up on-selling half of what I buy as 2nd hand.

Selling on TM may take a little more of your time but you will be able to get more $$ to off-set the purchase of the 40D. You might even get enough to buy a couple of 4gb cards...


Evening all.

Every one is well by the sounds of things, good news on the medical front John.

Mark

Thanks Mark!


Just a qucky from our new lens. Lost a bit in the compression, but oh well :)

eeek... iso3200 dammit.. forgot AGAIN.

Compresssed or not that is a really good pic.


Evening all you GKPE'ers :D



Very nice!

The flat is amazing these days. New flatty is anal with cleaning, like me. (Well, I wouldn't consider liking tidy to be anal). He loves to cook and wont let me do any of it!.
And every night, when I walk in the door, theres a wine or a Woody, or a Wild Turkey waiting for me. *hic*
He has already changed locks. Has barked at one of the ex flatties when he came to get the last of his things, and let him know that he had absolutely no time for him (hehe - the other ex flatty is alright).

And to thank him for being so fab as a domestic god, and also for encouraging my inner bogan freedom at Guns n Roses (he shouted me),...

Beware a flatty who is too good to be true... and who has a broom or woody stuck up his bottom...:lol: then again, he may just be one of the girls:p

[theflyingkiwi]

Mark, as long as you understand and accept that the camera becomes obsolete in 12-18 months, and a newer model will come out with more bells and whistles and at a lower price, and think of keeping it for at least 2-3 years then I would say GO FOT IT!

If you don't see yourself using the 10D, sell on TM. I agree with the others that AC will give you far less than fair market value... I probably would to considering that I might not be able to end up on-selling half of what I buy as 2nd hand.

Selling on TM may take a little more of your time but you will be able to get more $$ to off-set the purchase of the 40D. You might even get enough to buy a couple of 4gb cards...


Yea I kinda know that everything moves on regardless of what I would like to do. Lets not forget I had the 10D for 4 years, and it's been around the clock a few times. While it still takes good photos, I look at it and think I want a newer one :)

While I like taking photos I also like the gear :) However I wouldn't mind seeing what the replacement to the 5D looks like. + I do have to wait till I got a job.

[Nzshrimper]

pc rebuild time. --- just scored 320gb sata drives for $99 each

[Nzshrimper]

does someone have glams contacts - ie email - i want him to price up a 40d and 50mm 1.4 for me. - mark has answered this one for me - cheers mark.

Harvey n's have the pay feck all until jan 09 and no interest until then as well - so thats tempting me too.

[naqs]

does someone have glams contacts - ie email - i want him to price up a 40d and 50mm 1.4 for me. - mark has answered this one for me - cheers mark.

Harvey n's have the pay feck all until jan 09 and no interest until then as well - so thats tempting me too.

Just use the email on the website... you will most likely get Paul but still

[momentz]

pc rebuild time. --- just scored 320gb sata drives for $99 each

Any more avail at that price? :D

[theflyingkiwi]

Any more avail at that price? :D

i'll 2nd that :)

[Nzshrimper]

ill check - if so how many do you want.. ? i will get them and bring them up with me. pm a mobile number ill texted you with the latest price i can drive them down too.

If anyone else wants any pm me. if i have a lot to get then the price may just go down...

[Moppie]

ill check - if so how many do you want.. ? i will get them and bring them up with me. pm a mobile number ill texted you with the latest price i can drive them down too.

If anyone else wants any pm me. if i have a lot to get then the price may just go down...


What brand are they?
The "supplier" that some of us have access to has Seagate 320gb SATA drivers for $127

[theflyingkiwi]

What brand are they?
The "supplier" that some of us have access to has Seagate 320gb SATA drivers for $127

that's a good question.

[Mark Vuleta]

Evening all

Chris
I've just been talking to my brother in Hamilton, apparantly grandstand tickets for the V8's have almost all gone, Gold stand sold out almost immediatly, Silver stands in very limited supply.

Would also be interested in HD's if there are any further available at the price point.

Mark

[MHP]

good evening... where's Tony? he not on here anymore?

Wazza, great to see you're on the other side of the world ;-) and congrats on the done deal

yo shrimper, whats up!

[Nzshrimper]

drives are wd....

72000 320gb sata2 - i forgot to check ingrams (tech pak)

[Nzshrimper]

evening mark - the usual humdrum with the hoy paloi..

Tony has gone on a break from us. long story -

so how are you..

[Mark Vuleta]

WD's are ok, I'd be interested in 2 if you can wrangle it.

[Nzshrimper]

Evening all

Chris
I've just been talking to my brother in Hamilton, apparantly grandstand tickets for the V8's have almost all gone, Gold stand sold out almost immediatly, Silver stands in very limited supply.

Would also be interested in HD's if there are any further available at the price point.

Mark

nice.. good to see tickets are going well. I have GA to fall back on to - media application is well underway.. (i have some backing this year - so fingers crossed) however not to worried - GA - allowed myself and moppie to get some good shoots last round - a bit of hard work and some walking around will always reward you. ;)

[MHP]

how am I? awesome :-) plugin away as ya do! sliding back into reality nicely have been off net for a while and seem to have a million things to do these days with little time. dug the cam out for first time in a few months last week, that was kinda fun eh. so yeah all good. have just seen the images on your myspace... some cooking images. whats u with the other 2 sites, they were at that stage last november!!.

well have a good day tomorrow everybody.

[Mark Vuleta]

Accomodation is another consideration, most motels/hotels were booked out befor the tickets went on sale.

My brother & his wife have a business (Lollypops Playground) that is about 100m from the track. They will be open on the Friday (last day of school holidays) but are thinking of doing parking/strecher type accomodation for the Saturday/Sunday.

[theflyingkiwi]

Accomodation is another consideration, most motels/hotels were booked out befor the tickets went on sale.

My brother & his wife have a business (Lollypops Playground) that is about 100m from the track. They will be open on the Friday (last day of school holidays) but are thinking of doing parking/strecher type accomodation for the Saturday/Sunday.

You got to be quick for the V8's. it's going to be the main event next year for hammy. it will be interesting to see the street race happening here. Ohh well I will get to see it on TV

[Mark Vuleta]

Ohh well I will get to see it on TV

You must be going to have a look Mark ..... surely.

Certainly a big thing for Hamilton, I believe that they will do it well, much better than Auckland could have and better than the old Wellington street races.

[theflyingkiwi]

You must be going to have a look Mark ..... surely.

Certainly a big thing for Hamilton, I believe that they will do it well, much better than Auckland could have and better than the old Wellington street races.

well I would think that by the time it arrives, I would be more than likely living in AKL.

I found last year that I really didn't have an interest in it anyway.

[Mark Vuleta]

Hamilton will be like Auckland next weekend as well, there's the rally on and the possibility of a Ranfurly Sheild challange between Canty & Waikato (if Waikato can lift it off North Harbour tomorrow night).

The race itself will be a totally different kettle of fish from the track race and the orgainisers are planning on interest for everyone. Im looking forward to it.

[TKRFAN]

Evening all

Chris
I've just been talking to my brother in Hamilton, apparantly grandstand tickets for the V8's have almost all gone, Gold stand sold out almost immediatly, Silver stands in very limited supply.

Would also be interested in HD's if there are any further available at the price point.

Mark

You have NO idea how much it sucks to hear that :( Can't believe they didn't put a cap on the tickets sold before the rest of the country gets a chance :evil:

Yes I am one very p'd off v8 fan :p

[Mark Vuleta]

Apparantly, tickets available on line from Monday, does seem a bit unfair to have the locals an opportunity to get in first. I would imagine that the locals will be on-selling them or buying for out-of-towners. Bummer

[TKRFAN]

If we can't get stand tickets I doubt we will bother going, guess we will put more money into the aussie economy instead!

Sorry, I am just damn annoyed, we have been to every round at Pukekohe, and were planning on continuing at Hamilton, but it seems like out of towners are an inconvenience rather than something to be attracted :(

[Mark Vuleta]

Tracey, dont abandon hope yet!! It really depends upon what they have been holding back. I think that a lot of the Gold Stand tickets were purchased through locals for out of towners. I have had a drive arround the track layout and had a look at the plans for the GA areas and its going to be reasonable viewing, stands can be a pain in the butt for taking photo's a lot of the time anyway.

[Mark Vuleta]

Anyway, more related to photography, though not a photo. I picked up my new bag (Tamrac Expedition 8 ) and 8G of CF cards today (thanks to Glam & Mastertrade). Now I have something decent to carry my cameras & should not run out of memory next weekend!

[Nzshrimper]

have just seen the images on your myspace... some cooking images. whats u with the other 2 sites, they were at that stage last november!!.

yep i am very slack.. i did have it running briefly then pulled it cause i was not happy with it..

but it is a mission of mine now to get it done. it will be done..

The other mark...

as for the accomadtion in hamilton - aucklands not that far away and i have some leads on places to stay there :p .. plus dont forget its summer - tents and camping is great fun.. :lol:

[joeseph]

yep i am very slack..
You're slack? I've just posted some pics I took in 2004...

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=366232

[Moppie]

drives are wd....

72000 320gb sata2 - i forgot to check ingrams (tech pak)

113 at the "supplier" for 8mb and 133 for 16mb :)

Sounds like your mate is getting rid of some at next to cost price :cool:

[Wazza]

Hi folks :)
My nets runs out tomorrow (took old flatty 2 weeks to remove it, ha)
So Orcon is hooking me up again on Monday.

my favourite Scots Comedian. Danny Bhoy.

I have since spoken to Danny Bhoy and he gave me a kiss :lol: :oops:
And he mentioned hoping to see me again
He probably says that to all the girls :lol:

How did you manage that one? :lol:

DB is a great talent - was thinking of getting tickets before I left. But saw the date was August. Maybe I'll go see him in Edinburgh.

Glad to hear Steve is the perfect flatmate, and god. :lol:
I'll take a female version - oh wait, I got my nan.

good evening... where's Tony? he not on here anymore?

Wazza, great to see you're on the other side of the world - and congrats on the done deal

yo shrimper, whats up!

Cheers mate, must have been a while already since you've been. NOt exactly saving money. I think the only way I can do that, is ban the internet, hide B&H catalogues, and pretend 1D series camera never exist.
Still got the cruise ship stuff in the back of my mind, I'll let you know when I want to go ;)

how am I? awesome - plugin away as ya do! sliding back into reality nicely have been off net for a while and seem to have a million things to do these days with little time. dug the cam out for first time in a few months last week, that was kinda fun eh. so yeah all good. have just seen the images on your myspace... some cooking images. whats u with the other 2 sites, they were at that stage last november!!.

well have a good day tomorrow everybody.

What are you doing now if you're not doing photography? I gues had plenty saved from the travels.

If I don't do the cruise ship, I realy must travel Europe this time around, whilst I can - looking into global train passes, 30 days for almost £400. Or 10 days travel, during 22 day period for maybe 2/3 that.
Really would like to visit France, Germany, Italy, Austria (visit a POTN/gaming friend/photographer), so could even just fly to each

My week has almost ended. After tomorrow, I would have worked 55 hours, and paid for only 35 hours. I hear this is the sole reason why staffing turnover is ridiculously high. The longest staff member after next month when the next goes, is 5 months. I think I may last 2-3 more weeks at this rate. :mad:

[akiwi]

How did you manage that one? :lol:



If I don't do the cruise ship, I realy must travel Europe this time around, whilst I can - looking into global train passes, 30 days for almost £400. Or 10 days travel, during 22 day period for maybe 2/3 that.
Really would like to visit France, Germany, Italy, Austria (visit a POTN/gaming friend/photographer), so could even just fly to each

My week has almost ended. After tomorrow, I would have worked 55 hours, and paid for only 35 hours. I hear this is the sole reason why staffing turnover is ridiculously high. The longest staff member after next month when the next goes, is 5 months. I think I may last 2-3 more weeks at this rate. :mad:
Those work conditions sound pretty crap.
5 months is absolutely ridiculous! I don't know how any company could possibly survive with that sort of staff turnover.

I have had a pretty heavy week. Our team have all banded together & gone to the company boss to say that we don't like our boss & he should stop messing with the project we are doing. Caused some big waves. Don't know what the result will be.

I am off to Italy on Sunday for a weeks holiday. I hope to get some good windsurfing, mountainbiking and photographing in.

[Nzshrimper]

peter how do always seem to be traveling and going on holiday.. :)

right off to photos some hoons doing skids around the track... (Stil Vodka drift series is in town)

[Nzshrimper]

warren thous hours suck man... its time to move on and find a better job.. i remember a company i worked for in the UK while i was at Uni. They ran the same sort of crap... more staff turn over than a small country...

I left after i finally snapped and punch the manager over a table. :) one of the most satisfying moments of my working history....

[akiwi]

peter how do always seem to be traveling and going on holiday.. :)

right off to photos some hoons doing skids around the track... (Stil Vodka drift series is in town)
It's mid summer here, and instead of taking my holiday all at once, I have taken several shorter breaks.
Also in Europe 28 days holiday is standard

[Wazza]

Yeah I've only been here 2 weeks.

I question it to the others, why don't they bring it up, or point out their contract is for 35 hours, but can be between hours of 8:30 to 8:30 Monday to Saturday - which is what I was told, and happy for that - others said it will all be worth it once they hit target for 3 months straight in the set quarter period (nearing end of 2nd month of 3 now.) - and they get their bonus.. up to about £2500 - but I quickly pointed out, if we were fairly paid out for our overtime, we'd get that much anyway!

But the fact I'm working literally those hours, practically non stop, little break times, I'm extremely drained. The boss snapped me yawning today, and said I don't expect to see you ever doing that again, I quickly snapped back, fine, I'll leave at 5pm and get some rest

I'd like to do photography work in London. Some bits going, but seems they fill up so fast!

[momentz]

But the fact I'm working literally those hours, practically non stop, little break times, I'm extremely drained. The boss snapped me yawning today, and said I don't expect to see you ever doing that again, I quickly snapped back, fine, I'll leave at 5pm and get some rest

I don't get it... what happens if you just up and leave after your 7 hours are up? It's what I do over here, world crisis/company collapsing or whatever be damned.. it's work, not life.

[lil_miss]

Thats just what theyre like over there.. most of them just put up with it and plod along... they never seem to question anything. Im \sure its not uncommon for them to do the same job on the same pay for their whole life... we've got friends who have been over there for 2 years and say the same thing.. most of the companys are run by temps who are from overseas.

[Wazza]

YEah I know. But everyone puts in the hours, coz they feel they have to, and the boss says they have to. Can only go home once you've finished your accounts, cannot leave with a queue remaining. And it's not an individual bonus but a group, so if you're not pulling your weight, you won't have any friends. It's a difficult situation really, I'm already telling the others it's not acceptable, and only standing up to this now coz I'm new and will point out contractual hours etc. I don't know employment law here, but I'm guessing it's like NZ. Maybe I could force them to fire me, then get 6 months paid settlement in court, and travel. Dreams. Night.

[Wazza]

And my final rant..

Ask what time we will leave. Just after 5pm I'm told.
Then it becomes 6pm. Then another guy is slow and it becomes 6:30pm. Around the time I'm packing up and getting excited to finally be out. A phone call from another account manager comes through to the boss, who was out doing a field call on a customer - needed urgent docs/passport, otherwise guy wasn't paying. Had to drive all the way to Woolwich in the most disturbing neighbourhoods, as my boss said, he's going home, and I can do it. Arrived home just after 7:30pm. Another 11 hour day.

All I can really do is look elsewhere, but with these hours, will be a joke trying to find time for another interview.

[momentz]

YEah I know. But everyone puts in the hours, coz they feel they have to, and the boss says they have to. Can only go home once you've finished your accounts, cannot leave with a queue remaining. And it's not an individual bonus but a group, so if you're not pulling your weight, you won't have any friends. It's a difficult situation really, I'm already telling the others it's not acceptable, and only standing up to this now coz I'm new and will point out contractual hours etc. I don't know employment law here, but I'm guessing it's like NZ. Maybe I could force them to fire me, then get 6 months paid settlement in court, and travel. Dreams. Night.

Ahh... guilt trip by boss and peer pressure. Once you get a new job lined up, before you hand in your notice, just start up and leaving when your hours are up. My money's on other people following your lead, and the company getting royally fscked up. Management are needing a kick in the pants for worker abuse.

[Wazza]

There's like 4000 staff over 400 branches.
Two "branches" in my office, but funnily enough the other one, they mostly leave at 5pm on the dot. Yet still achieving some good targets. I've also jumped straight into the top of the pay scale, so I don't exactly have any career progression if I was to stay around. £20K + 44% bonus is nice, if we achieved the targets, and NO overtime.
Effectively I'm probably earning nearer McDonalds wages of around £6 an hour, with unpaid work

[theflyingkiwi]

Warren, Your boss sounds like a bully. you know the type that you get at school. However for the work place it's different. He may not be using his fists do the work, but he is manipulate people to get what they wont. And you know the bad part is he is getting away with it.

[Wazza]

Yep, he does. I dispise the way he talks at a couple of staff members. Like swearing, and calling them complete idiots. He's a funny person, but all the guys in both teams including bosses are sleazy and use derogatory comments to the younger couple of girls. But they don't seem to mind it. Weird work really, and considering I'm saying this on a forum, I really must hate this job ;)

[joeseph]

so if you're not pulling your weight, you won't have any friends.
There's a difference between not pulling weight, and not taken advantage of.
I wouldn't be suprised if the other workers quietly want to head home at 5pm also, so start yourself a trend & bog off at clocking off time.
They're effectively stealing portions of your life you could otherwise be usefully living. If the other leemings feel they need to waste theirs, thats their perogitave.

[theflyingkiwi]

Yep, he does. I dispise the way he talks at a couple of staff members. Like swearing, and calling them complete idiots. He's a funny person, but all the guys in both teams including bosses are sleazy and use derogatory comments to the younger couple of girls. But they don't seem to mind it. Weird work really, and considering I'm saying this on a forum, I really must hate this job ;)

also if you like being taking advantaged off then stick around. :lol:

[MHP]

Yep, he does. I dispise the way he talks at a couple of staff members. Like swearing, and calling them complete idiots. He's a funny person, but all the guys in both teams including bosses are sleazy and use derogatory comments to the younger couple of girls. But they don't seem to mind it. Weird work really, and considering I'm saying this on a forum, I really must hate this job ;)

dont take #hit off em, they'll take the piss over there if they can and it looks like this ones been getting away with it a long time, you've just got the wrong boss or company, there's loads of jobs over there so get on it! I don't ever think its a good idea to stay where i don't want otherwise it leaves a sour taste in your mouth of your journey for years to come. if you're there long enough and have enough dosh to pull a big company through the wringers then see a hot lawyer who jumps on this crap, otherwise get on the move to get outa there and create yourself a memorable, good time :-). you could be working for some awsome people who have a great attitude to life!

This kinda thing is why so many English love NZ, there's a certain level of trust and self reservation here that you dont see in places that are 'dog eat dog' like London & New York etc.

anyway, enjoy bruv, yeah twas March when i was last there, as much as i love London I'm super glad to be home living by the beach in the Naki!. get photos in Uk man, there are just soooooo many opportunities. oh and if you want a photography job, dont worry about the papers, find out where the photography companies are through the yellow pages or something and go door knocking, kiwis have a good name, you''ll have a job in a day for sure if you walk enough miles.

[Nzshrimper]

well that was nice to get back to the smell of burning rubber and oil...
given me a real taster for next week..

[Nzshrimper]

haha took 3.5 gb of photos. oops. 506 pics.. should have at least one or two to keep..

dam now i have to pp them ..

i can see this place has died a little since the other week... ho hum..

[rabsoft]

But it is easier to keep up with now ;)

[Nzshrimper]

But it is easier to keep up with now ;)


very true there... very true :D

[theflyingkiwi]

haha took 3.5 gb of photos. oops. 506 pics.. should have at least one or two to keep..

dam now i have to pp them ..

i can see this place has died a little since the other week... ho hum..

well come on then, start chatting :)

while this place has slowed, I have noticed that we have an increase of other people posting.

[MHP]

died, na man, just getting started!! ;-) soups on, and I been smell'n the oil and rubber too, from me wrx :-) bring on the rally :-)

[Nzshrimper]

so hows your plans for the 40d coming on - i have yet to hear from glam..

[S-S]

...The boss snapped me yawning today, and said I don't expect to see you ever doing that again, I quickly snapped back, fine, I'll leave at 5pm and get some rest...

:shock: thats mental! what kind of job are you doing that YAWNING isnt permitted??? are you a newsreader on telly for goodness sake?

doesnt he know that yawning is a biological mechanism which helps you wake up? maybe you should just slip into a coma and fall down asleep next time! :confused:

well come on then, start chatting :)

i think as the weather gets better and warmer there might be a drop in the number of daytime weekend posts - and maybe more photos as more and more people get out away from the screen and get behind the viewfinder ;)

[Nzshrimper]

died, na man, just getting started!! ;-) soups on, and I been smell'n the oil and rubber too, from me wrx :-) bring on the rally :-)
you coming over to meet up next week.. a few of us are going..

[Wazza]

Thanks everyone. Yeah I'm looking elsewhere. Once I have something secured I will be out. I've yet to return my contract, as I don't have an open bank account (which has caused much frustration, as they only accept very specific proof of address, and how else am I to have that? Looks like I got one now.. Opened one online with HSBC, and took in my car insurance docs, which weren't accepted elsewhere - only BT/Gas Bill/Other power.. Or driving licence...)

Off to work again, better be a 3 hour shift, wait. I can just leave at 12pm. What can they really do.

[MHP]

well, looks like one of those nights, misses is going out on the town, so i might as well p&p some of me travel shots, has been a bit of a mission, and takes sooo long, am starting from scratch, from all the ones from previous trips, have done 1 dvd's worth in a week doing it every night, this is going to take me a looooong time I feel. I realized this so jumped ahead to antarctica as i reckon I could do something with them in a gallery or something, anyway. what I'm say'n is I'll be around so we can maybe throw a couple of pix up over the night or something for a laugh eh.... bbers cold too, but nice in front of the fire. ahh life in NZ :-D

[jasestu]

As I mentioned earlier, since 'the other week' this place has become less of a monologue, it's great. :)

[theflyingkiwi]

died, na man, just getting started!! ;-) soups on, and I been smell'n the oil and rubber too, from me wrx :-) bring on the rally :-)

you know they really don't try and burn rubber at a rally.

oh well never mind

the plans for the 40D are still in the air. I have heard a peep from Glam yet.

I wonder if canon is going to release a replacement to the 5D at the start of next year.

oh yea I am reading the thread in the EOS section, titled "who cancelled their 40D pre-order?" Hmm it's really interesting what some people come out with. Like the 40D is basicly a 30D with XTi features. who knew huh.

[Wazza]

Yeah Mark Harris, really looking forward to your "processed" Antarctica shots. Can you send me there please.. I will fit into the smallest of parcels

[MHP]

you coming over to meet up next week.. a few of us are going..

where and when?? I saw a little bit on this but kinda missed it, got caught up in the goings on that was straight from Coro St!

[MHP]

Yeah Mark Harris, really looking forward to your "processed" Antarctica shots. Can you send me there please.. I will fit into the smallest of parcels

mate, this season is the last time that ship goes there as it has been sold. and as far as i know they have a photog on there already, but if they get caught up and need someone I'll let ya know!!

[jasestu]

the plans for the 40D are still in the air. I have heard a peep from Glam yet.


I emailed him earlier in the week too, still waiting for some news. Perhaps he's still negotiating a supply before presenting pricing...

[Nzshrimper]

where and when?? I saw a little bit on this but kinda missed it, got caught up in the goings on that was straight from Coro St!

here .... http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=347754

i think we are going to be at Saturdays stages - stage 1 3 and the last one but who knows.

Its deff Saturday we are to be there, and we are not doing the mystery creek super stage.

[MHP]

k, whats the deal, i click on the 'add image' and I can only do it from a url? is this corect? i ave to load it to a server first?

[Nzshrimper]

k, whats the deal, i click on the 'add image' and I can only do it from a url? is this corect? i ave to load it to a server first?


huh ??

[jasestu]

k, whats the deal, i click on the 'add image' and I can only do it from a url? is this corect? i ave to load it to a server first?

Use the 'go advanced' or full posting mode, then select 'Manage Attachments'

[jasestu]

huh ??

Probably clicking the little picture icon above the quick or advanced post.

[Nzshrimper]

arhhh i see.....

[MHP]

Tahnks for that!!, yeah did use the little pik there, never really taken much notice before eh. ha, woo it's all coming back to me, just had to resize again to fit the bill, hope it looks ok, anyway. first image of Antarctica....

[klippe]

Tahnks for that!!, yeah did use the little pik there, never really taken much notice before eh. ha, woo it's all coming back to me, just had to resize again to fit the bill, hope it looks ok, anyway. first image of Antarctica....

Love it!

Cliff

[theflyingkiwi]

Tahnks for that!!, yeah did use the little pik there, never really taken much notice before eh. ha, woo it's all coming back to me, just had to resize again to fit the bill, hope it looks ok, anyway. first image of Antarctica....

wow, cool

[theflyingkiwi]

I emailed him earlier in the week too, still waiting for some news. Perhaps he's still negotiating a supply before presenting pricing...

could be, the camera hasn't been released yet. I guess we should be a bit patience :lol:

[MHP]

Its a sad fact that, regardless of effort, talent and skill, second place means you are first of a long line of losers.


Chris, there is no such thing as a loser, as long as one is doing something to the best of their ability they are a winner.... there are no losers, only learners who are on their path to winning or winners who are on the path of learning

I'm sure it is a totally unserious quote by the way.... umm maybe I'd bettr make this the last beer :-D

[theflyingkiwi]

Its a sad fact that, regardless of effort, talent and skill, second place means you are first of a long line of losers.


Chris, there is no such thing as a loser, as long as one is doing something to the best of their ability they are a winner.... there are no losers, only learners who are on their path to winning or winners who are on the path of learning

I'm sure it is a totally unserious quote by the way.... umm maybe I'd bettr make this the last beer :-D

wow, that's a zen like moment :)

[MHP]

#2, hard at work filming this crazy place..... notice that the camera body is white, so the ice is infact blue, at first glance the imae looks too blue as the ice is blue, but it is reflection from the sky and the fact that the older the ice, the bluer it gets becuase it has the oxygen pressed out of it...

[Nzshrimper]

Its a sad fact that, regardless of effort, talent and skill, second place means you are first of a long line of losers.


Chris, there is no such thing as a loser, as long as one is doing something to the best of their ability they are a winner.... there are no losers, only learners who are on their path to winning or winners who are on the path of learning

I'm sure it is a totally unserious quote by the way.... umm maybe I'd bettr make this the last beer :-D

ok who came second then in this years us golf open.. :rolleyes:

[MHP]

ok who came second then in this years us golf open.. :rolleyes:

no eyed deer mate, but whoever it was I'd say he learnt from the experience and in other instances and/or circles he was/is a winner :-D

[tag141]

Woods and Furyk. Tied for second place.

[theflyingkiwi]

well for those that are interested in the noise levels on the 40D, check out this

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=ja_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.photo-cafe.jp%2fscoop%2farchives%2f2007%2f08%2feos_40d_i so.html

[Nzshrimper]

google is such a great tool.. hey tag

[tag141]

google is such a great tool.. hey tag

I'm sorry, I have no idea what you are on about!:o

[Nzshrimper]

one from todays piss poor effort..

1.
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u185/nzshrimper/FangaDan.jpg

2.
make mine a double please.....
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u185/nzshrimper/vodkagirly.jpg

[akiwi]

one from todays piss poor effort..

1.
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u185/nzshrimper/FangaDan.jpg

2.
make mine a double please.....
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u185/nzshrimper/FangaDan.jpg
Errr.. They look pretty identical to me.

[Nzshrimper]

a photobucket foobar... fixed now..

[MHP]

and certainly NOT piss poor!

[theflyingkiwi]

if anyone is interested a translated web site for a review of the 40D
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=ja_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.photo-cafe.jp%2fscoop%2farchives%2f2007%2f08%2feos_40d_0 1.html

Chris, if I was interested in drifting then I would comment. :)

[tag141]

well that was nice to get back to the smell of burning rubber and oil...

2.
make mine a double please.....


So what you really meant was the smell of burning silicone and baby oil ?

[Mark Vuleta]

Evening all
Good game of rugby, going to be a big weekend in Hamilton next Saturday!!
Weather is looking good too which is a suprise.
http://www.metvuw.com/forecast/forecast.php?type=rain&region=nz

Update on POTN book, had an email this morning saying that the production had been delayed by a couple of working days, a couple of hours latter, get a UPS tracking email:lol:
Dont quite understand it, weather it's here or on its way?

[theflyingkiwi]

Evening all
Good game of rugby, going to be a big weekend in Hamilton next Saturday!!
Weather is looking good too which is a suprise.
http://www.metvuw.com/forecast/forecast/forecast.php?type=rain&region=nz

Update on POTN book, had an email this morning saying that the production had been delayed by a couple of working days, a couple of hours latter, get a UPS tracking email:lol:
Dont quite understand it, weather it's here or on its way?

cool :)

[Mark Vuleta]

Sorry, fixed weather forecast address

[S-S]

Tahnks for that!!, yeah did use the little pik there, never really taken much notice before eh. ha, woo it's all coming back to me, just had to resize again to fit the bill, hope it looks ok, anyway. first image of Antarctica....

wow cool - lets see more!

[Nzshrimper]

tag i can honestly say they are real.. no silicone there... or here...

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u185/nzshrimper/stilvodkaad.jpg

[Nzshrimper]

and certainly NOT piss poor!

the reason i say piss poor - is that they are not to what i would call acceptable.

lots of blur in the shots - crap on the sensor - blown highlights

out 500 shots i have just deleted 402 on the first pass. :(
Not good at all.

the shot of fanga looks crap in colour - hence the pp.