GKPE: General Ramblings thread

[dgcorner]

I have hurd alot of comments regarding the 85 1.8 and how great it is. Even Pekka loves this lens. Some even say the 1.4 isn't even worth the price when the 1.8 is suitable.

To replace the 28-135, I was thinking of getting a 24-70 F2.8 and the 85. As the 100+ lens I got is F4. But really I don't think I need to get the 85. Does havinga gap in the lens range really that bad?

Having a gap is not bad if you don't really need the focal length. A prime like the 85mm is just ideal for portraiture shots... and if the general sentiment is to be believed, primes are far superior IQ wise compared to zooms...

[Sweedishcarrot01]

Aaron, was that pic intentionally made to look grainy... or was it because of all the mould, moss, and gunk? ;)

If it were not for the crappy day, I would have to say that lighting was a bit flat... other than that, good effort... especially getting the brain ceels working... there are days like that... and sometimes I cannot be bothered to lift a finger :o

Thanks for your comments, 'tis appreciated. Please also consider the following detail.

The original (and much larger file) shows the moss etc in a little more detail (looking closer helps to determine it is moss and not a poor sensor. Nevertheless, if the result comes across grainy as opposed to detailed moss, then conceivably I failed to acquire my target objective).
The photograph is not supposed to look beautiful, rather, drab and cold. I also wanted to simulate the dullness of the day and knew that the poor overcast lighting would help to give such an effect. From your comments, it seems as though this was achieved. However, do you think that perhaps a soft fill-in flash would have helped with the lighting, or do you think it would have taken away from the desired effect?

I welcome anybodies critique.

[dgcorner]

Thanks for your comments, 'tis appreciated. Please also consider the following detail.

The original (and much larger file) shows the moss etc in a little more detail (looking closer helps to determine it is moss and not a poor sensor. Nevertheless, if the result comes across grainy as opposed to detailed moss, then conceivably I failed to acquire my target objective).
The photograph is not supposed to look beautiful, rather, drab and cold. I also wanted to simulate the dullness of the day and knew that the poor overcast lighting would help to give such an effect. From your comments, it seems as though this was achieved. However, do you think that perhaps a soft fill-in flash would have helped with the lighting, or do you think it would have taken away from the desired effect?

I welcome anybodies critique.

Aaron, now that I have the full story -- I agree that you captured what you set out to do. Fill in flash would have probably given it a different twist. As for the grainy look, I was just stirring the pot... ;)

[weka2000]

NZFritz you will have to forgive our cropped cousins as they dont get the full picture. We been the enlightnened ones can see every detail in full frame, and yes size matters :lol:

[Sweedishcarrot01]

Aaron, now that I have the full story -- I agree that you captured what you set out to do. Fill in flash would have probably given it a different twist. As for the grainy look, I was just stirring the pot... ;)

I must add more explination to the photographs I post on this site. I was beginning to think that perhaps it did just look grainy, you big meany... mind you, a slice of humour is always tasteful. :)

[NordieBoy]

that 200 F2.8 is a nice lens I here :) lucky you. What are you going to be shooting with it ? and when are we going to be seeing some shots with it.
Unfortunately I got it on behalf of a mate ($480 off TM) but I will be borrowing it :D

OK then, a rugby game between Shirley Boys High in ChCh and Nelson Boys...
Just your normal rugby game apparently :D

The lens may be over 10 years old but it still comes up with the goods.

[theflyingkiwi]

NZFritz you will have to forgive our cropped cousins as they dont get the full picture. We been the enlightnened ones can see every detail in full frame, and yes size matters :lol:

Don't make us hurt you! :)

[tim]

I have hurd alot of comments regarding the 85 1.8 and how great it is. Even Pekka loves this lens. Some even say the 1.4 isn't even worth the price when the 1.8 is suitable.

To replace the 28-135, I was thinking of getting a 24-70 F2.8 and the 85. As the 100+ lens I got is F4. But really I don't think I need to get the 85. Does havinga gap in the lens range really that bad?

The 50mm F1.4 isn't very sharp wide open. The 50mmF1.8 just isn't very sharp.

[dgcorner]

Unfortunately I got it on behalf of a mate ($480 off TM) but I will be borrowing it :D

OK then, a rugby game between Shirley Boys High in ChCh and Nelson Boys...
Just your normal rugby game apparently :D

The lens may be over 10 years old but it still comes up with the goods.

That was probably "Shirley" getting the boys high in Chch... :D The goods would have been better if she was running toward you though :lol:

[weka2000]

Tim I dont have the room for the 85mm and full body shots. The 50mm F1.4 maybe better to start with when does it get sharp F2 or F2.8?

[weka2000]

The goods would have been better if she was running toward you though :lol:

Model material by the looks, not shy anyway.

[tim]

Tim I dont have the room for the 85mm and full body shots. The 50mm F1.4 maybe better to start with when does it get sharp F2 or F2.8?

I haven't done any tests sorry, but I would guess by F2.8 it's pretty good. I can have a bit of a play with it and let you know if you're seriously considering the lens. I'm very tempted to get the Sigma 30mm F1.4, and I will get it once I get back into IT.

[weka2000]

Wont be any new lens for a while Im just planning ahead :).

Sandra and girls off to Ausy for a week in Sept. Then a new car for Sandra. We are doing up the house so new wallpaper, paint etc.

As far as glass goes I think Im well off and camera is great. I am always looking out for a 20D for my bigma but still a bit high or they have a bunch of stuff I dont want.

The flue is just about gone so I need to get out and about. This time of year I think the only real challange is the "City at Night"

[dgcorner]

The flue is just about gone so I need to get out and about. This time of year I think the only real challange is the "City at Night"

Is that what the flu is like nearing 39? Jeez, that is taking forever to leave you. Me thinks a couple of shots of good brandy or whisky should sort you out...:D

K Road should be an interesting piece for a "City at Night" shoot... especially if you wander into the bars... ;)

[NordieBoy]

The goods would have been better if she was running toward you though :lol:
She was :D
And what's the start-up time of a 10D again? :(

I even saw her get out of the car and jog down the bank and was thinking "that's odd" and then realised what was happening.

Wonder if she'll sell her knickers on TradeMe?

[weka2000]

Is that what the flu is like nearing 39? Jeez, that is taking forever to leave you. Me thinks a couple of shots of good brandy or whisky should sort you out...:D

K Road should be an interesting piece for a "City at Night" shoot... especially if you wander into the bars... ;)

Yes a nasty little bug that didnt want to let go. K Road not what I had in mind.

[weka2000]

She was :D
And what's the start-up time of a 10D again? :(

I even saw her get out of the car and jog down the bank and was thinking "that's odd" and then realised what was happening.

Wonder if she'll sell her knickers on TradeMe?

Not getting the big picture and slow startup well a 5D is all you need you will never miss a bounce again :lol:

Oh and its got a big buffer

[Sweedishcarrot01]

This time of year I think the only real challange is the "City at Night"

I'm going to be an ass and suggest that the time of year should not inhibit ones creativity (perhaps with the consideration of those nearing forty who would prefer to stay in the warmth of a house).

O.K, O.K, I know, bold of me since I have not met you yet hey? Despite that, I must say I feel sorry for your poor camera sitting alone all by himself simply because his owner has decided to go all nocturnal for the winter. :)

[NordieBoy]

But it's difficult to wade up waterfalls in the winter :D
I'm not nearing 40 just getting closer :(

[dgcorner]

Hey, what's all this talk about nearing 40?!?!?:lol: I turned 42 last month and I don't feel a day old past 18... that is when I'm sleeping:lol:

Remember, it is all in the mind. Just don't listen to your joints cracking when you bend down to pick up your camera... ignore the failing eyesight... or falling hair...:lol:

But seriously, 40 is a great age to be discovering the joys of digital photography, among other things. In all honesty, that "Dawn at Shelly Park" series last Saturday was the first ever I've done in all my years of photography;)

Like my sig says: Learnign something new each day...

[dgcorner]

I'm going to be an ass and suggest that the time of year should not inhibit ones creativity (perhaps with the consideration of those nearing forty who would prefer to stay in the warmth of a house).

O.K, O.K, I know, bold of me since I have not met you yet hey? Despite that, I must say I feel sorry for your poor camera sitting alone all by himself simply because his owner has decided to go all nocturnal for the winter. :)

Oh boy... you're going to be Tony's favourite pal...:lol:

[joeseph]

I'm going to be an ass and suggest that the time of year should not inhibit ones creativity (perhaps with the consideration of those nearing forty who would prefer to stay in the warmth of a house).
I quite agree - although I'm not nearing 40 anymore... ;)

[NordieBoy]

Oh baby!
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[theflyingkiwi]

I was just reading a post, which was about funny adds for going out and buying a mac. It got me thinking for about a sec. I am not to sure if it has already been asked, but who here works on macs and who works on pc.

Hi, my name is Mark and I am a Windows user.

[weka2000]

I'm going to be an ass and suggest that the time of year should not inhibit ones creativity (perhaps with the consideration of those nearing forty who would prefer to stay in the warmth of a house).

O.K, O.K, I know, bold of me since I have not met you yet hey? Despite that, I must say I feel sorry for your poor camera sitting alone all by himself simply because his owner has decided to go all nocturnal for the winter. :)

Well think about this for a second. Why does a nearly 40yr guy go out and buy $150 worth of sexy lingerie for his wife. I will be getting more than the warmth of my house.

As for the camera sitting by itself I dont think so not with $1500 worth of studio lights.

Older and wiser..... Dont forget to wrap up warm when you go out in to the cold :lol:

[Sweedishcarrot01]

Well think about this for a second. Why does a nearly 40yr guy go out and buy $150 worth of sexy lingerie for his wife. I will be getting more than the warmth of my house.

As for the camera sitting by itself I dont think so not with $1500 worth of studio lights.

Older and wiser..... Dont forget to wrap up warm when you go out in to the cold :lol:
Great, I was hoping for a rebuttal, a bit weak though don't you think. And honestly, please, no more of those intimate details, my innocent ears, my innocent ears...

Glad to hear your getting some studio work in. Meanwhile, I am out in the cold shooting absracts and Parkour.

[NordieBoy]

PC.

Hi, my name is Fran and I am not a Windows user.

[Sweedishcarrot01]

I was just reading a post, which was about funny adds for going out and buying a mac. It got me thinking for about a sec. I am not to sure if it has already been asked, but who here works on macs and who works on pc.

Hi, my name is Mark and I am a Windows user.

Mark, did you watch the adds? There are rather comical, yet true...

I, Fritz, use a Mac... and do check this link out.
http://www.apple.com/aperture/quicktours/ - you'll be blown away... one of the many reason's for you to buy a Mac.

[weka2000]

I use all 3 Macs, Windows and linux at work. But im a windows user at home

[joeseph]

I'm only fluent in IOS
- everthing else I just dabble in...

[scotttnz]

I sold my soul to Bill Gates long ago.....I hear he has since sold it to the Devil on the second hand market for a huge profit.

But in return Microsoft pay my mortgage, and sometimes there is a bit left over for photography kit.

[Moppie]

Im a confirmed PC user.

Bill Gates dosn't yet own my soul though, Iv never purchased a legit copy of any of his software............


uh oh, I think here Black Helicopters and the chatter of lawyers...............

[theflyingkiwi]

Mark, did you watch the adds? There are rather comical, yet true...

I, Fritz, use a Mac... and do check this link out.
http://www.apple.com/aperture/quicktours/ - you'll be blown away... one of the many reason's for you to buy a Mac.

Yea I did watch the ads. They may be comical, but some of them are miss leading. I got myself a new laptop, which is up and running in 1/2 an hour. I didn't have to download new drivers or read manuals.

But in all fearness the good thing about mac only having a small percentage in the market, is that they have been forced to make machines that works really easy out of the box, with all the software one ever needs. I do think windows has got a few things to fix. Better than it used to be. However still give me a PC. I can upgrade any part of computer x86 machine with out buying a new computer.

[Moppie]

Iv just realised that in the only orginal part left on my first home built PC from 4 years ago is a 40gig HDD, a 56k modem and a CD-RW drive that no longer gets used.
Everything else has been upgraded and replaced in the last 4 years.
Its still the same PC, only its not.............

[theflyingkiwi]

Iv just realised that in the only orginal part left on my first home built PC from 4 years ago is a 40gig HDD, a 56k modem and a CD-RW drive that no longer gets used.
Everything else has been upgraded and replaced in the last 4 years.
Its still the same PC, only its not.............

I know what ya mean, however the parts of my first machine are long gone. It still feels like the same machine, just had a face lift :)

[dgcorner]

I do the Windows at home :lol:

There used to be a time when the Mac was far superior to Windows when it came to post processing pics and videos... not to mention the fact that Mac pioneered in the real "Windows" system. That is probably why it became a "standard" for those who were very keen in getting the best to process pics they made a living off... plus the fact that it was their way of sticking it back up Bill Gate's backside.

These days, with technology at par, and software just making workflow far easier just compared to 5 years ago it is a matter of what one is accustomed to, or how deep one's pocket is... or how one succumbs to the funny adverts.

Wow, that was hard writing all that before 9am... I need to find a job!!!

[tim]

I'd consider a mac for my next machine, running windows inside MacOS if I needed to. Never had a Mac, and I like PCs just fine because I understand how they work, mostly.

[Wazza]

Duncan, did you find a 580EX?

You're welcome to borrow my gear. I owe you dearly, after the 100-400L loaners..
:)

[dgcorner]

My first attemps with the manual extension tubes here (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1638259#post1638259)

[weka2000]

Duncan, did you find a 580EX?

:)

Thanks for the reminder need to follow up on that issue

[MattL]

Anyone in auckland online and with nothing better to do? I want someone to come take some photos of me ski jumping - sort of like a video analysis.

[joeseph]

Anyone in auckland online and with nothing better to do? I want someone to come take some photos of me ski jumping - sort of like a video analysis.
Could be fun, if I wasn't working that is... maybe the weekend?

[FlyingPete]

I'd hate to have a negative scanner...

"That's a crap photo, you need to learn how to shoot!".
"It's overexposed d1ckhead!"
"My Mum takes better photos than you!"

;) :p


Thats great, after my week so far I needed a good laugh :D

[weka2000]

Anyone in auckland online and with nothing better to do? I want someone to come take some photos of me ski jumping - sort of like a video analysis.

If you were a hot babe I would jump at the chance :lol:

[tim]

Tim I dont have the room for the 85mm and full body shots. The 50mm F1.4 maybe better to start with when does it get sharp F2 or F2.8?

I just found a shot I took with the 50mm F1.4 at F2, using studio lights, and it's very sharp by then. Crop attached. It looks better on the original than compressed for the web, and the DOF is very narrow here.

[FlyingPete]

I'm only fluent in IOS
- everthing else I just dabble in...

Hmmm IOS, how about an IOS based 20D?

EOS20D> sh ver
Canon Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) GS Software (GSR-P-M), Version 2.0.1
Technical Support: http://www.canon.com/techsupport
Copyright (c) 1986-2006 by Canon, Inc.

Camera uptime is 1 hour, 35 minutes

2048Mbytes of Flash card at slot 0
EOS20D>en
Password:
EOS20D#conf t
Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z.
EOS20D(config)#pict mode AP
EOS20D(config-AP)#aperture 2.8
EOS20D(config-AP)#^Z
EOS20D#take pict

Nah I think I prefer the current user interface:rolleyes:

[dgcorner]

Got a laugh out of this one... sent to me by a friend...

How do you know you are flying over Africa?

[theflyingkiwi]

hahaha, now that's funny.

[tim]

lol, nice pic :)

[joeseph]

Hmmm IOS, how about an IOS based 20D?

EOS20D> sh ver
Canon Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) GS Software (GSR-P-M), Version 2.0.1
Technical Support: http://www.canon.com/techsupport
Copyright (c) 1986-2006 by Canon, Inc.

Camera uptime is 1 hour, 35 minutes

2048Mbytes of Flash card at slot 0
EOS20D>en
Password:
EOS20D#conf t
Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z.
EOS20D(config)#pict mode AP
EOS20D(config-AP)#aperture 2.8
EOS20D(config-AP)#^Z
EOS20D#take pict

Nah I think I prefer the current user interface:rolleyes:

nice! or even:

EOS20D> show interface CF 0/0


CF0/0 is up, line protocol is up

Hardware is Canon

MTU 82000 bytes, BW 8.2 Mpixel, DLY 50 usec, rely 255/255, load 1/255

Encapsulation RAW, ISO set 100, Histogram keepalive set (5 sec)

Last input 2 Days, output 2 Days, output hang never

Last clearing of "show interface" counters never

Output queue 0/0, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops

Five minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec

Five minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec

0 packets input, 0 bytes, 0 no buffer

Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants

0 input errors, 0 CRC, 45k frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort

0 packets output, 0 bytes, 0 underruns

0 output errors, 0 lockups, 20k sensor cleans, 0 restarts

[TKRFAN]

She was :D
And what's the start-up time of a 10D again? :(

I even saw her get out of the car and jog down the bank and was thinking "that's odd" and then realised what was happening.

Wonder if she'll sell her knickers on TradeMe?

Hey, the streaker is now famous, she was just on the late news on TVONE, she has been suspended from school - she did it because the game was a bit boring apparently - with much encouragement from her friends :lol: She is 17 (sorry, didn't catch her name - only realised what they were talking about half way through). It will be in some of the papers tomorrow no doubt!

[tim]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3707511a11,00.html

[MattL]

Could be fun, if I wasn't working that is... maybe the weekend? Hmm this weekend is pretty full on for me. I'm considering a day trip to ruapehu so I guess you could come along but it may be a bit far for your likings :P
and working sunday.

Nevermind i'll try again next week sometime.

[MattL]

Shes quite a goodlooking girl too. Where is this nelson college for girls?

[dgcorner]

Shes quite a goodlooking girl too. Where is this nelson college for girls?

:lol::lol:

[dgcorner]

nice! or even:

EOS20D> show interface CF 0/0


CF0/0 is up, line protocol is up

Hardware is Canon

MTU 82000 bytes, BW 8.2 Mpixel, DLY 50 usec, rely 255/255, load 1/255

Encapsulation RAW, ISO set 100, Histogram keepalive set (5 sec)

Last input 2 Days, output 2 Days, output hang never

Last clearing of "show interface" counters never

Output queue 0/0, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops

Five minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec

Five minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec

0 packets input, 0 bytes, 0 no buffer

Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants

0 input errors, 0 CRC, 45k frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort

0 packets output, 0 bytes, 0 underruns

0 output errors, 0 lockups, 20k sensor cleans, 0 restarts

:lol: Help, someone throw me a life-vest!!! This one's way over my head:lol:

[NordieBoy]

More from the (ahem) rugby game :D over here...
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=182930

[mrmeal]

Shes quite a goodlooking girl too. Where is this nelson college for girls?
Where ever it be, wanna car pool?

[joeseph]

:lol: Help, someone throw me a life-vest!!! This one's way over my head:lol:

sorry, it's a very small minority language spoken by fewer & fewer natives. [I've just deleted what I was going to type due to it bordering on a political statement.] :o

[MattL]

sorry, it's a very small minority language spoken by fewer & fewer natives. [I've just deleted what I was going to type due to it bordering on a political statement.] :o

LOL I could see where that was going..

I point you towards this TM auction (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=59927118), which (will make you laugh) was asking $11,000 for a crap email address. My point is, read the Q&A.

[NordieBoy]

Hey Tony!

TradeMe: 20D + 50mm 1.4 for $1600 (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=60741463&key=112901)

[weka2000]

Hey Tony!

TradeMe: 20D + 50mm 1.4 for $1600 (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=60741463&key=112901)

Saw that as well as the 85 F1.8 $350

I think I will wait untill the new year. Too much on at the moment with trips and cars and house renovations.

[joeseph]

bump... and Fiona... :D

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=1643551&postcount=377

[Elyse]

Hey Aucklanders
Have any of you done the Diploma in Contemporary Photography at unitec? Or do you know anyone that has...good/bad?

I've been wanting to do it for ages but thought full time study was out of the question...but we're moving west so I may as well see if I can get in.

I now have to go get a portfolio done. Ideas on prime sites to see in AKL would be great!!!!!!!

Any advice for a portfolio?

Thanks all ur pix are so inspiring.

[Sweedishcarrot01]

Hey Aucklanders
Have any of you done the Diploma in Contemporary Photography at unitec? Or do you know anyone that has...good/bad?

I've been wanting to do it for ages but thought full time study was out of the question...but we're moving west so I may as well see if I can get in.

I now have to go get a portfolio done. Ideas on prime sites to see in AKL would be great!!!!!!!

Any advice for a portfolio?

Thanks all ur pix are so inspiring.

So many places to photograph in Auckland, yet so many styles. Any preferred style, or, do you plan on a range as to show some ability in diversity?

[MattL]

Did anyone else notice last nights CBD power outage? Sure, it was not quite as large as the last one. I was at work, and at 2006 the power cut out for two seconds. The console[1] I was operating at the time stayed up thanks to the wonders of UPS. But two of our three buildings went into evac.

That makes for an interesting night for the security team. Our buildings have one of the largest access control systems in the country. around 400 doors individually controlled - and they all unlock and open automatically on evac.

I've never seen them run so fast!

[1] Console = Strand 550i :
http://www.strandlighting.com/images/controls/550%20Ang%20with%20WYG.jpg

[joeseph]

I did notice the lights went a little dim about that time. Didn't shut down anything though.
[memo to self: carefully check the 250Gb backup drive that was in mirroring mode at the time... ]

[Wazza]

No power cuts at my work either, and I was there till just after 8pm, and then went into Parnell.

Elyse: I'm not too sure on courses. I don't think any Kiwi on these forums has done a course. We've all self taught, and gained knowledge through this forum.
As for capturing Auckland, I like the domain/winter gardens/and capturing Auckland in its night atmosphere, and dawn/dusk, where the sun can give nice effects. I'm working downtown now, and walking past the viaduct, there's always some awesome uniquely Auckland views, whether it's some boats with the city skyline in the background, or imagery of Americas' cup yachts.

[dgcorner]

bump... and Fiona... :D

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=1643551&postcount=377

Duncan, nice one of Fiona. Yes, the flash is next on my list... especially that I've gotten hooked on macro.

[dgcorner]

Hey Aucklanders
Have any of you done the Diploma in Contemporary Photography at unitec? Or do you know anyone that has...good/bad?

I've been wanting to do it for ages but thought full time study was out of the question...but we're moving west so I may as well see if I can get in.

I now have to go get a portfolio done. Ideas on prime sites to see in AKL would be great!!!!!!!

Any advice for a portfolio?

Thanks all ur pix are so inspiring.

Elyse, as Warren says, probably all of us are self taught, and, speaking for myself, have learned more from the forum and chatting with the guys during the mini or full GKPEs. It helps too when you have heaps of books to borrow from the local library (something that some Kiwis take for granted I should say -- it is a fantastic "free" resource)

If you are looking to add the certification into your CV then possibly... but if it is just to learn to shoot digital is the most fun you can have learning to shoot. But that's just me at 815 in the morning ;-)

[Moppie]

Uh oh....

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Moppie

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mippie

[weka2000]

We would rather buy glass than pay for someone to teach us. We can all read and ask stupid questions :)

Looking back on some of the questions ive asked :o but hey thats how we learn.

Duncan nice work. You should do 1 a month. Ive seen a photo of a time lapse full term the interesting thing was it was done by a window and outside you can see the seasons change as the months go on.

[dgcorner]

Uh oh....

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Moppie

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mippie

Uh oh indeed... Does that mean you're a fruit, but a great one at that?:lol:

[Moppie]

I think it means I spend far to much time online!
And that my online alias is becoming a part of internet history.

[dgcorner]

Did anyone else notice last nights CBD power outage? Sure, it was not quite as large as the last one. I was at work, and at 2006 the power cut out for two seconds. The console[1] I was operating at the time stayed up thanks to the wonders of UPS. But two of our three buildings went into evac.

That makes for an interesting night for the security team. Our buildings have one of the largest access control systems in the country. around 400 doors individually controlled - and they all unlock and open automatically on evac.

I've never seen them run so fast!

[1] Console = Strand 550i :


Matt -- that console looks really hi-tech...

[dgcorner]

I think it means I spend far to much time online!
And that my online alias is becoming a part of internet history.

:lol:

[mrmeal]

Our buildings have one of the largest access control systems in the country. around 400 doors individually controlled - and they all unlock and open automatically on evac.

I've never seen them run so fast!


Please tell me you don't work in the Prison system :) lol

[weka2000]

Please tell me you don't work in the Prison system :) lol

LOL thats good.

[Elyse]

Thanks to all of you who came back to me.

I was thinking of having as much variety as possible just to show I can do a bit of everything. I cant say I know how to do all the fancy techniques yet but isn't that what a course is for afterall?!

I'm really itching to get back into study and itching to do photography. Office work just doesn't cut it. IT can get so predictable :(

I really suck at being self taught and do well with a bit of structure/guidance.

Also in terms of a tripod, what would you recommend. I'm wondering if I'm out and about doing landscape shots and want to get them as sharp as poss maybe I should just get a monopod to save the hassle.

The viaduct sounds really interesting. I may just try it out during the day sometime. When it isn't crappy weather.

What do you all take pictures of when its raining? Or is that time for editing etc.

See ya!
(20 questions)

[dgcorner]

Thanks to all of you who came back to me.

I was thinking of having as much variety as possible just to show I can do a bit of everything. I cant say I know how to do all the fancy techniques yet but isn't that what a course is for afterall?!

I'm really itching to get back into study and itching to do photography. Office work just doesn't cut it. IT can get so predictable :(

I really suck at being self taught and do well with a bit of structure/guidance.

Also in terms of a tripod, what would you recommend. I'm wondering if I'm out and about doing landscape shots and want to get them as sharp as poss maybe I should just get a monopod to save the hassle.

The viaduct sounds really interesting. I may just try it out during the day sometime. When it isn't crappy weather.

What do you all take pictures of when its raining? Or is that time for editing etc.

See ya!
(20 questions)

Suggest you get a very good tripod. And depending on your budget there is a good range to choose from. Due to my budget constraints I stuck with the tried and true Manfrotto 3021BPRO (though I would have liked the magfibre version;) ) + a 468MGRC2 ball head -- a combination that I am quite happy with especially when the wind is blowing. As long as you level the camera properly, landscape panning won't be an issue since the base swivels. Some will find a pano heads more appealing.

You might want to get Weka2000/Tony's opinion on his tripod set-up which is sturdy + the centre column converts into a monopod. If I remember correctly he purchased this from someone on TradeMe.

Regarding variety -- that is a good approach, and then you can focus on what you really like to do. I'm beginning to have a real liking for macro but am still learning to maximise the tubes and limited DOF.

[Wazza]

I use a Manfrotto 055PROB, which not sure how it compares, but it was the bulkiest one they had at Auckland Camera at the time. It cost $360, but the centre rail, can be taken out and put horizontally to do macros or something putting downwards.
The tripod mount won't connect straight to a camera, the screw is too big, so need a ballhead or something, another $145....
Monopods aren't that great, they are annoying to shoot with, but do take the load off a very heavy lens, such as my Sigma 120-300. Recently at D1NZ, I found myself shooting without the monopod, and hand holding everything again.

[weka2000]

You might want to get Weka2000/Tony's opinion on his tripod set-up which is sturdy + the centre column converts into a monopod. If I remember correctly he purchased this from someone on TradeMe.

.

"The importer". They are a soild tripod with ball head handle grip type thingy :lol: but has a built in monopod. It comes with 2 attachements so for me 1 is always on my camera and the other always on my Sigma 50-500 so I dont have to unscrew and swap over all the time.

Its heavy but solid, the highest its goes is about 6ft which is great for moon shots. Legs fold out to 90 deg $200 comes with carry bag

I agree with wazza monopods are a waste of time.

I tripod all my landscape work. One of the big reasons is AEB I cant afford to have movement.

[tim]

I have this set (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=353324&is=REG&addedTroughType=search). It's very good, but if you need fine control and have heavy camera/lens i'd get a different head - with that one I set it, let the pistol grip go, and gravity tugs it down a bit of a way. It was a lot cheaper to buy from B&H than in Wellington, but Auckland camera has some great prices sometimes.

[NordieBoy]

"The importer". They are a soild tripod with ball head handle grip type thingy :lol: but has a built in monopod. It comes with 2 attachements so for me 1 is always on my camera and the other always on my Sigma 50-500 so I dont have to unscrew and swap over all the time.

I agree with wazza monopods are a waste of time.
I got my WT3570 cheapie tripod from him as well ($28 + postage) 1.65m extension, 4.5Kg load.

I love my monopod :D

But when the shutter speeds come right down :(

Took THIS (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=1646902&postcount=92) shot this evening walking home.

[weka2000]

Well I got out tonight and froze my a$$ off but here the result.

3 images stiched in CS2, now thats a first :) Yes I know he horizon is not right

[joeseph]

Thanks Tony, I was hoping someone had gotten a shot at it. I was still at work when I noticed one hell'va good sunset. well done!

[dgcorner]

I use a Manfrotto 055PROB, which not sure how it compares, but it was the bulkiest one they had at Auckland Camera at the time. It cost $360, but the centre rail, can be taken out and put horizontally to do macros or something putting downwards.
The tripod mount won't connect straight to a camera, the screw is too big, so need a ballhead or something, another $145....
Monopods aren't that great, they are annoying to shoot with, but do take the load off a very heavy lens, such as my Sigma 120-300. Recently at D1NZ, I found myself shooting without the monopod, and hand holding everything again.

Elyse: the 055PROB is exactly the same as the 3021BPRO -- one is the American code, the other is the European one.

Warren, ouch -- $360 just for the tripod:( ... I got it from Einstein Products (highly recommended in the forum) on eBay for around $275 including the ballhead.

[dgcorner]

Tony -- awesome shot! Like Duncan, I was driving home and was wondering who of you would get to take the spectacular shot home.

[weka2000]

Tony -- awesome shot! Like Duncan, I was driving home and was wondering who of you would get to take the spectacular shot home.

I will have a play soon as there is another image that can go on either end.
I do wonder about what focal length I should be using to keep the horizon straight

[dgcorner]

I will have a play soon as there is another image that can go on either end.
I do wonder about what focal length I should be using to keep the horizon straight

Jessop's hot shoe double bubble level -- around $45 from Auckland Camera

[Sweedishcarrot01]

Jessop's hot shoe double bubble level -- around $45 from Auckland Camera

yes, have just acquired one. $45 for a piece of plastic though! freakin aye.

Anyone here do any portrait shooting (on location, not studio)?

[MattL]

I dont like the idea of a setup like Tony has. The only time when you should be using a monopod is when its not convenient / practicle to carry around a tripod. Having a Tripod/Monopod two in one means that you always have to carry around the tripod anyway!

Buy a tripod, and a monopod, then spend the time getting used to shooting with a monopod.

[NordieBoy]

Means you always have to carry around the monopod.

I think...

:confused:

[tag141]

Guys, it's waaaaay past your bedtime. What are you lot still doing up?

[weka2000]

I dont like the idea of a setup like Tony has. The only time when you should be using a monopod is when its not convenient / practicle to carry around a tripod. Having a Tripod/Monopod two in one means that you always have to carry around the tripod anyway!

Buy a tripod, and a monopod, then spend the time getting used to shooting with a monopod.

The monopod thas the head on it. It just means you can slide the monopod out if you want to.

MattL when doing panos what is your focal length.

[weka2000]

Anyone wanting a Canon 50mm f1.8 as im upgrading to 50mm F1.4
Its prime time :)

[MattL]

Focal length is different each pano Tony, depending what I'm trying to achieve. Generally I like telephoto panos tho, much less distortion and much easier to stitch!

[Sweedishcarrot01]

Anyone wanting a Canon 50mm f1.8 as im upgrading to 50mm F1.4
Its prime time :)

how much? condition? age? sharpness?

[weka2000]

how much? condition? age? sharpness?

Condition = Perfect, original box etc
Age = Bit over a year
Price= 120 with Hoya UV filter and a Jessop 52mm to 58mm stepping ring
Sharpness= Fine but I want the sharpest I can get. Thats why Im upgrading

You pick up.

[NordieBoy]

Finally got some fantail flying shots...

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1650013#post1650013

[scotttnz]

Tony, how about this for a great price on a 50 1.4

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Camera-accessories/Lenses/Canon/auction-61034490.htm

[NordieBoy]

Cool!
I'd expect it to come with a 20D + Grip for that price though.

[weka2000]

Tony, how about this for a great price on a 50 1.4

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Camera-accessories/Lenses/Canon/auction-61034490.htm

A guy offered 400 so Im picking up 1 in a couple of hrs for 500. Also put in a bid for 85 F1.8 as well find out if I win that tommorow
Edit been out bid on the 85mm

[theflyingkiwi]

Tony,. are you going to do any comparable shots between the 1.4 and the 1.8

[tim]

The sharpness of the 1.8 isn't an issue - it's not too bad if you can get it to focus correctly. The 1.4 is a bit sharper at F1.8 I think, but the main issue is that the 1.8 doesn't focus accurately.

[tim]

Tony,. are you going to do any comparable shots between the 1.4 and the 1.8

btw some of the photos on the front page of your website are underexposed - half a stop perhaps, or a little more.

[weka2000]

Tony,. are you going to do any comparable shots between the 1.4 and the 1.8

Can do if you want.
I got this lens for my portraits 85mm would be fine for head and shoulders that may come next :)

Whatsmore interesting is the guy I got it from. Brings stuff in from USA well under AC prices.

Duncan 580ex $550 +GST new. He didnt want me to go to his house I put this down to security not him been dishonest Told me what ever I was after let him know and he would get a price.

[weka2000]

The sharpness of the 1.8 isn't an issue - it's not too bad if you can get it to focus correctly. The 1.4 is a bit sharper at F1.8 I think, but the main issue is that the 1.8 doesn't focus accurately.

Its a totaly different lens. Size, weight and quality.

[theflyingkiwi]

btw some of the photos on the front page of your website are underexposed - half a stop perhaps, or a little more.

are they? which ones?

[theflyingkiwi]

Can do if you want.
I got this lens for my portraits 85mm would be fine for head and shoulders that may come next :)

Whatsmore interesting is the guy I got it from. Brings stuff in from USA well under AC prices.

Duncan 580ex $550 +GST new. He didnt want me to go to his house I put this down to security not him been dishonest Told me what ever I was after let him know and he would get a price.

I not really to worried, if you happened to be doing some then I would be interested. I have found that with my shooting style I don't really need a 50mm, either 1.4 or a 1.8. So if anyone is interested I would be happy to sale my 50 1.8 for a price to get rid of it :)

That could be dangerous, knowing someone that can get camera gear in for a good price. One could end up spending more than what one should :)

[theflyingkiwi]

Tony, other quick question, where was this http://www.pbase.com/weka2000/image/57240476
taken?

I like it a great deal, very peaceful.

[NordieBoy]

Whatsmore interesting is the guy I got it from. Brings stuff in from USA well under AC prices.
Warranty?

Canon and Sigma?

[weka2000]

Tony, other quick question, where was this http://www.pbase.com/weka2000/image/57240476
taken?

I like it a great deal, very peaceful.

Upper Ni... what ever dam. I have the correct name on the other pics.
Its on the way to Piha 10 min walk from where you park the car

There is story behind that photo.... Walked into my bosses office and told him I was going out to do some photography I will be back later. He looked at me and said fine. I guess he knew I needed some time out.

[weka2000]

Warranty?

Canon and Sigma?

International. Will check on the Sigma. You after a Sigma 120-300 F2.8 or 50-500 :lol:

I just realised how much gear I have brought this year......holy hell no wonder we live in Mangere and not Mangere Bridge.

[NordieBoy]

70-200 2.8 :D
Need to sell the 300D first though :(

[tim]

are they? which ones?

Bottom one most, top one next, middle one slightly. Since they're saved as one image I can't check precisely in photoshop, but if they're raw i'd increase the top by maybe a stop, the middle by half a stop, the bottom by two stops.

[Moppie]

are they? which ones?


I agree with Tim, just had a general look at you site, and some really nice photos, but there seems to be a general trend towards them looking a bit dark.
Wonder if the brightness on your monitor is turned up a little bit to much?

[joeseph]

Duncan 580ex $550 +GST new.
best price I've seen yet - put me down for one please. Can you pm or e-mail me some details?
cheers.
having borrowed a Wazza's 580 specificly for a friends birthday party, find there's so many people there I couldn't hardly move let alone take any decent photo's and I wasn't about to elbow his rellies out of the way to get shots so didn't take any! there seemed to be thousands of P&S flashes going off so just hope between them they got something decent. One of those "better to be part of an event than record it" times.
never mind, I think tomorrow's going to be a better day photographicly.

[weka2000]

best price I've seen yet - put me down for one please. Can you pm or e-mail me some details?
cheers.
having borrowed a Wazza's 580 specificly for a friends birthday party, find there's so many people there I couldn't hardly move let alone take any decent photo's and I wasn't about to elbow his rellies out of the way to get shots so didn't take any! there seemed to be thousands of P&S flashes going off so just hope between them they got something decent. One of those "better to be part of an event than record it" times.
never mind, I think tomorrow's going to be a better day photographicly.

Hes in Ausy untill Thursday. I will send you his e-mail.I told him about our group. I havnt heard back from my other contact re the flash but I would say about the same.

I got the 50mm F1.4 for less than he paid, but I guess he will make up for it with new clients.

[FlyingPete]

A quick way off topic post for the morning, a new cold record this morning, my coldest in the last 7-8 years of recording:

-1.1degC

Shona said it was bl*dy frezzing, I said she was right!

[weka2000]

A quick way off topic post for the morning, a new cold record this morning, my coldest in the last 7-8 years of recording:

-1.1degC

Shona said it was bl*dy frezzing, I said she was right!

Well put the heater on :lol:

[scotttnz]

Anyone keen for a sunset shoot tonight? I'm thinking out west, Piha or something. Bring the family.....fish and chips on the.....oh hang on....-1.1 you say......

OK maybe not bring the family.

I might find a spot closer to home, but if anyone else is keen we can see what we can organise.

[weka2000]

Anyone keen for a sunset shoot tonight? I'm thinking out west, Piha or something. Bring the family.....fish and chips on the.....oh hang on....-1.1 you say......

OK maybe not bring the family.

I might find a spot closer to home, but if anyone else is keen we can see what we can organise.

If anything like last night there wont be a cloud in sight.Im keen on a trip out west. We would need to be out there about 3 ish to make it worth it. I worked out it costs me $30 to karakare and back. So I go out for a while. Waterfalls, the beach and then sunset.

[scotttnz]

If anything like last night there wont be a cloud in sight.Im keen on a trip out west. We would need to be out there about 3 ish to make it worth it. I worked out it costs me $30 to karakare and back. So I go out for a while. Waterfalls, the beach and then sunset.

If anybody else is keen post here, or give me a call on 027 2123769.

I'm going out with the family for the morning, but I will check back here early this afternoon.

[weka2000]

If anybody else is keen post here, or give me a call on 027 2123769.

I'm going out with the family for the morning, but I will check back here early this afternoon.

Sandras asleep so after 2 pm will be good for me.

[Moppie]

I was told yesterday I should go and shoot the sunset, get out of the house. I had a head ach and gerneral felt like crap. Going out was no an option.
Today, as soon as I looked outside my first thought, mmmm, great day for photography.
Unfortunatly I have to have dinner on the table for Amandas family at 6pm. :(

[weka2000]

Just dug out all my 58mm filters (Canon 50mm F1.4 has 58mm thread) Had a play with my closeup filters and IR. The front dosnt turn so they screw on without changing the focus.

IR is best done on still days with full sunlight.....umm just like today :lol:

Edit.. First IR didnt work out :(

[weka2000]

IR first atempt. There seems to be a center hot spot. Can be seen in other photos.
Need some clouds. Different tress produce better whites than others.

Canon 50mm F1.4 IR 780 10sec iso 800 F8

[scotttnz]

I have decided I have better things to spend my money on than driving all the way to Piha. I'm going to find somewhere local to shoot the sunset.

[weka2000]

I have decided I have better things to spend my money on than driving all the way to Piha. I'm going to find somewhere local to shoot the sunset.

:(

[scotttnz]

Here is my best effort from yesterday:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a310/scotttnz/IMG_9365.jpg

Can someone with a properly calibrated monitor tell me what they think of the colour etc. I think this 21" I got might be a bit out.

[tim]

I'm calibrated - it looks a little orange but not too much so, like it's a late afternoon photo. The lake is a nice blue, the grass on the left a bright but not too saturated green. The bench is blown out quite a bit.

[scotttnz]

I'm calibrated - it looks a little orange but not too much so, like it's a late afternoon photo. The lake is a nice blue, the grass on the left a bright but not too saturated green. The bench is blown out quite a bit.

Cool, sounds like the monitor is not too far out then. One of these days I will have to buy a screen calibration thingy.....
I noticed the bench was blown out. Shame, would have been a good pic otherwise. I really like the contrasting colours.

[theflyingkiwi]

I agree with Tim, just had a general look at you site, and some really nice photos, but there seems to be a general trend towards them looking a bit dark.
Wonder if the brightness on your monitor is turned up a little bit to much?

Thanks guys for the comments, it looks like I should get my monitor calabrated. How much are those devices for getting the monitor setup right and do they work on a LCD?

I went to havey normans today as my brother is looking at for a camera. He almost brought a 30D. However they had a 5D there, hmmm it's a shame I didn't take my CF card. It's a nice camera and love the big LCD on the back. I didn't know how bright the view finder was untill I look at thru a 30D, or how wide 17mm. Gee that's a nice camera.

They also had a Fujifilm S3 Pro. Even tho I am sure it's a nice camera but it just felt wrong. When in portrat mode the shutter release felt in the wrong place. The sales guy seem know what he was talking about too when it came to cameras. I was supprised, but then he was using a nikon D200 so how much I can trust him, not to sure.

[CliveyBoy]

Thanks guys for the comments, it looks like I should get my monitor calabrated. How much are those devices for getting the monitor setup right and do they work on a LCD?

I like the photo. Lake Rotoroa? I am looking at it on a Spyder-calibrated AOC 17" LCD monitor. I feel that the lake is a little too blue, more than one would expect from the white sky visible through the trees. The colour palette is great. You didn't ask about composition, but I wonder if a better balance could have been achieved by moving a little to the left to place the seat in the "golden" 1/3 spot.

My spyder I bought new for NZ$280 CIF when they were selling out that particular pack. I demonstrated this and the Huey (loaned by Colour Management Ltd) to our local photo society. The Huey is NZ $280 also. The reaction was that the Huey is great where the ambient lighting changes through the day, but the spyder gave a more thorough calibration, taking 3 times as long, and many more colour steps. They huey remains connected via USB, and has monitors to actively adjust for lighting changes.

One member found that he could by the Huey from elsewhere at $180, and ended up with two. He may still have the second one for sale.

Both work equally on CRT or LCD monitors.

[tim]

You should've used my Optrix while it was floating around in Auckland! Oh well. Mine was US$200 odd from B&H and seems to work well. I have to get around to reading that massive Bruce Fraser color management book I bought.

[CliveyBoy]

Another helpful book is Sybex: Color Confidence - the digital photographer's guide to colour management; Tim Grey 2004.

Chapters: Foundations. Photoshop Setup. Display. Scanning. Digital Capture. Optimization. Output. Workflow.

[theflyingkiwi]

one of the things that I am concered most abou tis the fact that I am slighly colour blind. I wonder if that has any effect on the result.

Otherwise colour management does my head in. Trying to understand the relationship between monitor, photoshop and the printer is almost impossible. for me anyway.

[joeseph]

So what's everyone been photographing today? here's probably one of my better ones from a nice winter's day...
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1653270#post1653270

[scotttnz]

Nothing spectacular from last nights sunset. I kinda like this one though:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a310/scotttnz/IMG_9421.jpg

[Wazza]

Pete: A new temp record today as well?

It was 1-2 * cooler air temp, and ground temp would have been in negatives with ice everywhere today.

[FlyingPete]

Pete: A new temp record today as well?

It was 1-2 * cooler air temp, and ground temp would have been in negatives with ice everywhere today.

Yep my new record, a day after setting the last one:

-2.3degC

And that was air temp, approx 2.5m above the ground.

[theflyingkiwi]

Yep my new record, a day after setting the last one:

-2.3degC

And that was air temp, approx 2.5m above the ground.

What time is that taken? rather cold even for akl

[weka2000]

Ah get out with your camera. So what if its cold think of the photos that could be had.

New challange for this week post your best frost shots :lol:

[tim]

Great photo Scott :)

[CliveyBoy]

Nothing spectacular from last nights sunset. I kinda like this one though

I like the shot, Scott. Was the sky naturally graded like that, or was a CP filter or other filter used?

[weka2000]

I have a 50mm 1.8 and remote RS-80N3 for sale on trade me if anyones intrested.

[scotttnz]

Great photo Scott

I like the shot, Scott. Was the sky naturally graded like that, or was a CP filter or other filter used?

Thanks guys.

This was taken with the 10-20 @ 10mm, with a cokin P ND grad. I think it was the ND8 I was using. The grad on that filter is a hard grad, and was set at the horizon. So the colour graduation you can see in the sky is natural. I just used the ND grad to try to balance the foreground with the sky.

Unfortunately it resulted in the water being a little more overexposed than I would have liked. Setting the grad at the shoreline may have worked better.

[FlyingPete]

What time is that taken? rather cold even for akl

Just after 7am, it seems coldest just before the sun starts shinning on stuff after actual sunrise.

[weka2000]

Dam someones offering me a Canon 85mm F1.8 for $450 umm what to do :rolleyes:

Wife said yes so whats a man to do but say thank you honey XXXOOOXXX