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dgcorner

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 00:49

Hey Im vocal

Understatement of the year!:p

are you going on about shortland street again? :lol:

More like Sopranos mixed with Heroes and Lost:p And then throw in some Top Gear to get things moving along nicely!

problem exists between keyboard and chair

:lol:

woots i looked at the GKPE website. very nice :) i like the outings idea.

Whereabouts in Auckland are you? You need to constantly keep an eye out for the "minis" with the way this thread is going. Then can happen with as little as 2 hours' notice.

Other than that, GKPE VIII is sometime November... or December when Dave/manipula hits our fair shores...

SS, your experience is reminding me to check when I last backed up my pics... oh... not bad... July was the last time... and nothing much has happened since then... except for the WRC where I didn't get much keepers...

Nzshrimper

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 00:51

hey why dont you come pick us up? :p

If I left now..It would take about 6 months to drive there... and 6 months back. so we could hit the 2009 Oktoberfest!

could you image that drive :rolleyes: - ipod is my friend.

Nzshrimper

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 00:53

then... except for the WRC

I wonder if those people are still waiting for the speeding tickets that they thought they were going to receive. :rolleyes:

:lol:

S-S

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 01:04

SS, your experience is reminding me to check when I last backed up my pics... oh... not bad... July was the last time... and nothing much has happened since then... except for the WRC where I didn't get much keepers...

yup i keep all my work and photos and docs on a separate drive - well drives; and the photos get backed up every time ive got enough to fill a dvd

it used to be a cd, but with raw, not enough images can fit on a cd to be worthwhile

...set up is formatting: 57%
this is going to be a long night
and, im sick today :(

momentz

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 01:04

I wonder if those people are still waiting for the speeding tickets that they thought they were going to receive. :rolleyes:

:lol:

Speaking of tickets... I somehow got a let-off yesterday doing 68 in a 50 :o:o:o Not to mention I didn't have my license or any id whatsoever with me.

dgcorner

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 01:05

there will be a mini first weekend of November - (maybe) - (i will be in Auckland for the weekend again - bloody car racing)

the next GKPE is November 10th - ideas people. (i cant make that one)

i am still keen on a studio shoot workshop ....

Start a thread! Muriwai? Shakespear Regional Park?

We would like to welcome to our family a 580EX MKII and a 77 CPL... oh yay :D i had to resist the other temptations of Auckland Camera :D :P

Congrats - for your purchase and for your control;)

Ooooh... I have a good Idea.
There is a small festival here that starts next week where wvwryone gets dressed up in traditional costumes, and there are lots of lights ... and beer.
It's called the Oktoberfest. We could meet there.

Bier, sausages, saurkraut(?).... yum!

I wonder if those people are still waiting for the speeding tickets that they thought they were going to receive. :rolleyes:

:lol:

:lol:Indeed... some of them are hoping that they are in the bottom 50% of speeders so they don't get a ticket!

The "Dear Motorist" letter might even endorse the 580EX for its superb lighting:lol:

akiwi

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 01:08

Bier, sausages, saurkraut(?).... yum!

Actually you don't see many sausages or sauerkraut at the real Oktoberfest. I think it's often in the copied ones.
Bier yes.

The most popular meal is 1/2 hendl & Brezen.
= 1/2 a roast chicken + Prtzzel.

Or
Duck with red cabbage

or
Schweinebraten mit knödel. Yumm.

weka2000

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 01:09

Speaking of tickets... I somehow got a let-off yesterday doing 68 in a 50 :o:o:o Not to mention I didn't have my license or any id whatsoever with me.

Let me guess you did that hair flick thing to the lady officer and showed some leg and chest :lol:

S-S

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 01:14

Let me guess you did that hair flick thing to the lady officer and showed some leg and chest :lol:

lol was the hair flick thing leg and chest hair? :lol:

momentz

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 01:15

Let me guess you did that hair flick thing to the lady officer and showed some leg and chest :lol:

Nope, no pleading, just admission of guilt. Was an older guy. The reality was a bright sunny sunday afternoon, wide straight road, hardly any traffic, industrial area. No danger. Unless I was driving a ford of course - they have a tendancy to hit the landmines :lol:

weka2000

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 01:18

Understatement of the year!:p

More like Sopranos mixed with Heroes and Lost:p And then throw in some Top Gear to get things moving along nicely!

...

Hey I like Tony Soprano...I like how he deals with pain in the a$$ people.

Anyway I shoot my mouth off as Im not allowed real bullets

dgcorner

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 01:23

Let me guess you did that hair flick thing to the lady officer and showed some leg and chest :lol:

:eek::lol::lol:

Hey I like Tony Soprano...I like how he deals with pain in the a$$ people.

Anyway I shoot my mouth off as Im not allowed real bullets

hear, hear! Better to shoot off your mouth rather than bullets;) Then again, not a good idea to shoot off your mouth if the guy on the other end has the bullets:lol:

Mediation

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 01:31

Whereabouts in Auckland are you? You need to constantly keep an eye out for the "minis" with the way this thread is going. Then can happen with as little as 2 hours' notice.

Hi i live in St Heliers. Would love to come out. I will have my first 70-200 F4 L by the 27th hopefully. So thats going to be a huge step up. There is a member over in Gameplanet forums that had taken some nice rally shots.

"orion"
http://www.gpforums.co.nz/showthread.php?s=&threadid=283075&perpage=25&pagenumber=1

momentz

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 02:28

Hi i live in St Heliers. Would love to come out. I will have my first 70-200 F4 L by the 27th hopefully. So thats going to be a huge step up. There is a member over in Gameplanet forums that had taken some nice rally shots.

"orion"
http://www.gpforums.co.nz/showthread.php?s=&threadid=283075&perpage=25&pagenumber=1

Don't take this the wrong way, but have you looked at a photography course rather than spending money on expensive glass right off the bat?

The rally pics are pretty ordinary. Have a look at NZShrimper's pics if you want some good ones :)

Nzshrimper

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 02:33

The rally pics are pretty ordinary. Have a look at NZShrimper's pics if you want some good ones :)
:oops: stop it

weka2000

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 02:40

Don't take this the wrong way, but have you looked at a photography course rather than spending money on expensive glass right off the bat?

Where were you with that advice a year ago :lol:
So does that mean I still have to do a course.

I thought it was the glass Chris used :)

Right all studio lights and remote trigger now working.

Moppie

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 02:43

Right all studio lights and remote trigger now working.

Yay!

Did John replace the unit, or was he able to fix it?

Nzshrimper

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 02:44

Momentz
whens your good wife down here... she PM' ed me last week.

might try and catch up with her for a shoot in chch..

momentz

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 02:46

Momentz
whens your good wife down here... she PM' ed me last week.

might try and catch up with her for a shoot in chch..

Ummm.. pm her back. She leaves tomorrow :)

momentz

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 02:53

Where were you with that advice a year ago :lol:
So does that mean I still have to do a course.

No, you need to do a marketing course :p:D

Nzshrimper

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 02:56

No, you need to do a marketing course :p:D
funny i thought the same thing too..

naqs

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 03:11

No, you need to do a marketing course :p:D

Marketing course aye? can you recommend any?

Moppie

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 03:13

There must be something about Tony's Gear.

His 300 2.8 does wonderful things for Chris's motorsport shots and his lights to great things for my portraits:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/Moppie/IMG_1634converted.jpg

manipula

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 03:17

Moppie

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 03:25

She looks like a very proud mother to be, nice shot.

Appreciate your car related post the other Moppie, but I'd better not blight the forum with any further car nerd talk so soon. A lot of what you said was new info on me, details about that particular project are hard to come by from specialists here.

Photo related question: I've a shoot next weekend, and amongst many other things I wanted to try a dusk shot down an alleyway, using heavy fill flash. Have any of you done this? Are you using single flash? Diffusers? And do any of you have any experience on how you use Speedlights together so more than one's going off at once, as I've absolutely none. How do you set it up on the flashes?

Ta.

Cheers, shes a potential future sister in law :)

There are a LOT of used import Nissans here, and NZ has a long history of being quite heavy Nissan buyers, and Nissan NZ has a long history of providing feed back to Nissan on how to make them faster. The SSS badge for example comes from NZ.
So, of course, there is a large knowledge base here, that I've been able to tap from time to time.

With regard to the flashes, there are LOTS of different ways to trigger more than one.
The simplest is to have a 550 or 580EX flash on camera, and 1 or more EX flashes off camera.

But you would be best reading some of the FAQ threads in the Flash forum, lots of really good info there :)

S-S

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 03:29

There must be something about Tony's Gear.

His 300 2.8 does wonderful things for Chris's motorsport shots and his lights to great things for my portraits:

thats a beautiful shot moppie

well im at the windows update stage now... got all my security running but no other software yet
everythings going smoothly, looks like all the issues were software related which is good
computer is FAST when its empty lol, will soon change that tho

akiwi

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 03:34

Where were you with that advice a year ago :lol:
So does that mean I still have to do a course.

I thought it was the glass Chris used :)

Right all studio lights and remote trigger now working.

Excellent... How many have you got?

There must be something about Tony's Gear.

His 300 2.8 does wonderful things for Chris's motorsport shots and his lights to great things for my portraits:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/Moppie/IMG_1634converted.jpg

That is beautifull. Great lighting.
Did you need to isolate the BG at all, or was it OK in the original picture. I love it when I can take a highkey like that and post it without having to spend ages getting it right in PS.

thats a beautiful shot moppie

well im at the windows update stage now... got all my security running but no other software yet
everythings going smoothly, looks like all the issues were software related which is good
computer is FAST when its empty lol, will soon change that tho

Leave it empty then... so it stays fast.;)

NordieBoy

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 03:36

Unless I was driving a ford of course - they have a tendancy to hit the landmines :lol:

Only on corners though.

theflyingkiwi

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 03:36

nice shot Moppie

just a quick question for those that can follow prices of CF cards.

what's the fast CF card that can be brought?

joeseph

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 03:41

just a quick question for those that can follow prices of CF cards.

what's the fast CF card that can be brought?
sounds like a trick question. Are you after the fastest CF card that can be bought? any particular size in mind?

NordieBoy

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 03:41

looks like all the issues were software related which is good
computer is FAST when its empty lol, will soon change that tho

Should be fast when it's full too.

momentz

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 03:46

nice shot Moppie

just a quick question for those that can follow prices of CF cards.

what's the fast CF card that can be brought?

I haven't done any research, but the sandisk extreme IV should take some beating.

lance v

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 03:52

nice shot Moppie

just a quick question for those that can follow prices of CF cards.

what's the fast CF card that can be brought?

im sure wen i was watching utube when they were testing burst rates of Mkiii that they had a 300x card

theflyingkiwi

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 03:55

sounds like a trick question. Are you after the fastest CF card that can be bought? any particular size in mind?

I am not sure about size, I would say either 2gb or 4gb. I am thinking of another card for the 40D. I not no idea what the data transfer rates for the 40D. If I get the fastest card out then I should be fine. :)

Moppie

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 03:56

That is beautifull. Great lighting.
Did you need to isolate the BG at all, or was it OK in the original picture. I love it when I can take a highkey like that and post it without having to spend ages getting it right in PS.

Its Hayems favorite, and possible mine to from the shoot, although there are a few others I'm still PPing.

The BG is a large drop of white cloth, that has not been ironed, and Tony's only got a single light in a basic dish reflector to light it with, which is about half as powerful as it needs to be.
Its enough to separate the model and the BG, but I have had to isolate and PP all of them to get the high key look :)

joeseph

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 04:08

I am not sure about size, I would say either 2gb or 4gb. I am thinking of another card for the 40D. I not no idea what the data transfer rates for the 40D. If I get the fastest card out then I should be fine. :)
Can't say for the 40D without doing a bit of googling, but this rogergalbraith report has Sandisk Extreme IV's at the top of the list with a 30D: http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=6007-8478

I'd expect in reality you'll see most cards being "faster" than the 40D can write at, so the real benefit in getting a fast card is seen when reading shots off on a cardreader

theflyingkiwi

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 04:12

well the largest RAW file that I have seen so far is 17mb, so faster reading on the card reader would be nice :)

lil_miss

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 04:20

That maternity photo is great Moppie :) i like it a lot

lance v

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 04:25

Just wondering what sorts of jobs people did to get into the photography buisness?

weka2000

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 04:44

Just wondering what sorts of jobs people did to get into the photography buisness?

ok

Weddings
Glamour
Sports
Aircraft/cars
nature/landscapes
stock photos
events
magazines

Take your pic
Havnt seen any one with macro yet

We have 1 pro photograher (Tim) Several part timers a bunch of wannabees and one chap who keeps going around in circles :rolleyes:

Personally Ive spent 30K and Made $230 however I didnt bank the $30 cheque as it was the first money I made and I learnt alot of lessons from it

lance v

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 04:48

ok

Weddings
Glamour
Sports
Aircraft/cars
nature/landscapes
stock photos
events
magazines

Take your pic
Havnt seen any one with macro yet

We have 1 pro photograher (Tim) Several part timers a bunch of wannabees and one chap who keeps going around in circles :rolleyes:

lol circles sounds like me :p

and how do u sell ur photos and who to?

theflyingkiwi

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 04:49

lol circles sounds like me :p

and how do u sell ur photos and who to?

he is the one going around in circles :) he doesn't know yet :)

lance v

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 04:50

Id love to go to the international and state cricket games to shoot for some1

lance v

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 04:50

he is the one going around in circles :) he doesn't know yet :)

haha o rite ;)ill pretend i dnt no:D

weka2000

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 04:56

lol circles sounds like me :p

and how do u sell ur photos and who to?

I made my money from shooting sexy woman in lingerie :D

I have 2 models this Friday night however I forgot to charge them :(

I do lend out stuff and get paid in bottles of Baileys does that count.

Blessed are those who go around in circles...for they shall be called wheels...wheels is what moves everything in this world :)

lance v

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 04:57

I made my money from shooting sexy woman in lingerie :D

WHERE DO I SIGN!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!

weka2000

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 05:01

WHERE DO I SIGN!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!

www.starnow.co.nz (http://www.starnow.co.nz) just advertise there are 3 members on there now.
Oh do it before you get married as wifes can have a reaction to young woman turning up everynight and been taken out into the studio for 2hrs

Nzshrimper

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 05:03

Id love to go to the international and state cricket games to shoot for some1
state i can help with .... internationals hmm work in progress..

lance v

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 05:14

www.starnow.co.nz (http://www.starnow.co.nz) just advertise there are 3 members on there now.
Oh do it before you get married as wifes can have a reaction to young woman turning up everynight and been taken out into the studio for 2hrs

haha cheers for the link. and i can imagine about the girls :p cheers weka

state i can help with .... internationals hmm work in progress..

could you actually help with state?

i got these at caketin last season 20 rows back in the crowd. what do ya rekon are they any good?

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1234/1395582957_cb66bf715c.jpg (http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1234/1395582957_34d5933f8a_o.jpg)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1021/1395579939_a272a2be47.jpg (http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1021/1395579939_c7be956ac3_o.jpg)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1404/1396470284_26e166af8c.jpg (http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1404/1396470284_4d56c06041_o.jpg)

lance v

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 05:14

o by the way u can click them for bigger pics:D

Nzshrimper

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 05:30

lance v

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 05:36

i like the last one. good timing. Definitely some talent there - exposers a little strong and you may need to shooter a bit wider (aperture) however checking your lens collection out i assuming this is the 100 - 400 .. its good.

i do hate the backs of players thou unless its key to the action.

and state yep i should be able to help .. Pm for further info.. I am as said working on the test and one day access - esp with the Pohms coming here early next year.

Cheers mate. yea i hate backs aswell but these were the sharp ones haha
yep done with 100-400

and yea the exposures were a bit off because i didnt no how to do it properly yet. i had it in manual mode shutter 500 f8 and iso 400 and kept it like that. the sun came in and went away again.

but id love to get into it CAN ONLY GET BETER WITH PRACTICE:D

akiwi

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 05:44

Its Hayems favorite, and possible mine to from the shoot, although there are a few others I'm still PPing.

The BG is a large drop of white cloth, that has not been ironed, and Tony's only got a single light in a basic dish reflector to light it with, which is about half as powerful as it needs to be.
Its enough to separate the model and the BG, but I have had to isolate and PP all of them to get the high key look :)

I use white paper... Well worth the investment.
I also have 3 lights (& a light trigger for my 580 if I need a hair light).
= 2 x 400 WS and 1 x 230 WS.
When I want a white BG I use the paper (No creases and no need to iron :D) + 2 lights, one left & 1 right.
Then Use my 3rd light as a key.

I made my money from shooting sexy woman in lingerie

I have 2 models this Friday night however I forgot to charge them

I do lend out stuff and get paid in bottles of Baileys does that count.

Blessed are those who go around in circles...for they shall be called wheels...wheels is what moves everything in this world

Tony... I love your Blessed quote.

How you feeling by the way?

www.starnow.co.nz (http://www.starnow.co.nz) just advertise there are 3 members on there now.
Oh do it before you get married as wifes can have a reaction to young woman turning up everynight and been taken out into the studio for 2hrs
My wife chooses to dissapear when I hae a photo shoot with naked or 1/2 naked pretties.
On the other hand... I have never given her any reason not to trust me.
Other difference is that our living room gets converted into a studio. Furnature out on the terrace.:lol:

haha cheers for the link. and i can imagine about the girls :p cheers weka

could you actually help with state?

i got these at caketin last season 20 rows back in the crowd. what do ya rekon are they any good?

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1234/1395582957_cb66bf715c.jpg (http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1234/1395582957_34d5933f8a_o.jpg)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1021/1395579939_a272a2be47.jpg (http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1021/1395579939_c7be956ac3_o.jpg)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1404/1396470284_26e166af8c.jpg (http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1404/1396470284_4d56c06041_o.jpg)
That last one is excellent!

Moppie

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 05:52

I use white paper... Well worth the investment.
I also have 3 lights (& a light trigger for my 580 if I need a hair light).
= 2 x 400 WS and 1 x 230 WS.
When I want a white BG I use the paper (No creases and no need to iron :D) + 2 lights, one left & 1 right.
Then Use my 3rd light as a key.

I've used paper before for some light box work, it definitely works better :)

Tony has a hair light with a grid on it mounted just to the side of the BG just above head height. Worked really well.
I used his two other lights with softboxs left and right, one twice as big as the other.
Sadly the fill light (which I wasn't going to use) never worked, fortunately he's got it fixed, but it shows how handy it can be to have a back up.

lance v

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 05:57

That last one is excellent!

cheers akiwi

Belmondo

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 10:55

I'm locking these extremely long threads. This one is continued here (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=3947690#post3947690).

Glenn Wolsey

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 13:48

i like the last one. good timing. Definitely some talent there - exposers a little strong and you may need to shooter a bit wider (aperture) however checking your lens collection out i assuming this is the 100 - 400 .. its good.

i do hate the backs of players thou unless its key to the action.

and state yep i should be able to help .. Pm for further info.. I am as said working on the test and one day access - esp with the Pohms coming here early next year.

I'd love to really get into shooting cricket too, being a Northern Districts representative player myself. Please let me know how the test and one day access goes - I'd love to shoot some cricket this year.

Wazza

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 14:12

*makes the last post of this long thread* Goodbye Kiwi friends. ;)

downunder

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 14:44

*makes the last post of this long thread* Goodbye Kiwi friends. ;)
night Wazza....when you are next on, can u tell me what daypack you use.

Nzshrimper

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 14:52

huh... whats the point ... oh well..

Nzshrimper

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 15:25

So we are now homeless - i wonder if we could the Maroi on board and get them to fight to get our land back.. ;)

weka2000

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 15:33

I'm locking these extremely long threads. This one is continued here (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=3947690#post3947690).

May we ask why?

Wazza

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 15:35

He says so in the new thread... Server under a lot of strain

weka2000

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 15:38

Ok the main people are in the new one shut the gate :p

theflyingkiwi

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 15:39

May we ask why?

this isn't the first thread that this has happened too. it's also been done with the TPBM chat thread and the RRTP chat thread. it just proves that we talk to much :)

weka2000

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 15:40

Ok let the last post here be a whos posted amount stat page :lol:

Nzshrimper

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 15:43

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turns off the lights *

Nzshrimper

17th of September 2007 (Mon), 15:45

do i have to edit the post count again... hummmm

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