GKPE: General Ramblings thread

[Wazza]

Howdy folks
It's been a while ;)

I've been off getting a new job and stuff, so I haven't had a chance to say hi..

If anyone needs any form of commercial vinyl, flooring accessories, adhesives, polyurathenes, epoxies, resin floorings, roofing membranes, building waterproofing, spray cladding, ice and snow guards and wot-not, I'm a one stop shop! (although, I know crap all about what I'm selling at the moment :o )

Hows the camera folks of NZ going? I haven't had much chance to pick up a camera in ages, last attempt was D1NZ round 2... that was forever and a day ago. My pics turned out ok, sold one I think.

Anyhoo, be cool to each other :D

ello, fancy seeing you online here..
A mighty fine selection of shots you did..

http://www.ikirst.com/gallery/d1nz2

[Wazza]

I would put you on my list of people I hate (LOPIH) but I just looked at your avatar pic again and forgave you ;)

Did you just say that out loud? :lol:

Ah shucks, you can be jealous of me :p

And I'll forgive you... you shoot Canon.
I was considering jumping for a while... looking at shooting Fran. ;)

[NordieBoy]

Ah shucks, you can be jealous of me :p
Watch it or I'll put you on the list and your avatar pic won't save you at all :D

[weka2000]

Lets hope she shows up :)

Told her if she dosnt thats the samoan ladys off my list.
One of the other ones I had lined up was sitting there as well.
She gave me a dirty look and said she had no time to which I respond "make time"

[FlyingPete]

Phew what a lot of posts to read, only missed a couple of days :rolleyes:

Shall I summarise?
Weka is buying a new lens (actually I could make that my signature :lol: )
Moppie is thinking of joining the SLR band in October with some Sigma Glass
Wazza is still Wazza
iKirst is Back!
Scott is out new resident 1D Series guru
Duncan is still out ADSL network status man
Mark has put himself up for sale
John and the rest of you guys are doing the running commentary!

[Wazza]

Volcanoes is looking very unlikely for myself and Kirst now. :(

As I had mentioned earlier, have some drifting on the same day, which they've just asked me again if I can make it, and please let them know ASAP.

www.d1nz.com - Notice the new link?

All I asked was for a banner under Pictures
http://www.warrenwilliams.co.nz/warrenwilliams_logo.jpg

Does sound like there will be a few smaller get togethers, including getting my lens back from Tony. ;)

[dgcorner]

Volcanoes is looking very unlikely for myself and Kirst now. :(

As I had mentioned earlier, have some drifting on the same day, which they've just asked me again if I can make it, and please let them know ASAP.

www.d1nz.com (http://www.d1nz.com) - Notice the new link?

All I asked was for a banner under Pictures
http://www.warrenwilliams.co.nz/warrenwilliams_logo.jpg

Does sound like there will be a few smaller get togethers, including getting my lens back from Tony. ;)

Racey Weddings... hmmm ;-)

[weka2000]

Pete my mother invested in glass she told me it was a good investment. the difference is I dont wear it :lol:

[MattL]

Wohoo! I just booked a day of jumping out of a helicopter :lol:

Mt Hutt Heliski here I come :D

http://www.skidealsnz.com/content/images/2644/550x550normal/Mt_Hutt_Heli.JPG
(picture stolen from Mt Hutt Heli)

[mrmeal]

Watch it or I'll put you on the list and your avatar pic won't save you at all :D


lol, funny thing is the Avatar pic was taken by some half ass wally who didn't know what they were even doing. Also taken on a camera that flies under the branding of a foul word round here. Good that it saved the Kirst though, horrible to lose her ;)

[mrmeal]

As I had mentioned earlier, have some drifting on the same day, which they've just asked me again if I can make it, and please let them know ASAP.

www.d1nz.com (http://www.d1nz.com) - Notice the new link?


Congratulations on the link Warren! Kirst mentioned it to me the other day on the phone, well done all good exposure.

[theflyingkiwi]

Matt, We would expect you to take some pictures while you are up there :) no point going all that way and just skiing

[MattL]

oh yeah im sure i'll take a couple shots here and there :P

I need a solid backpack style camera bag for this.

[weka2000]

Dam I hate defeat. Looks like I will just have to manually reduce the vignetting in ARC. I cant justify another camera. I looked at a Canon 1DmkII $5000 or 30D $2300 (ish) and I would rather buy lens with that sort of money.

So I have a new shopping list..... 1.4TC, set of autofocus extension tubes and a remote shutter with timer.

I want to look at a macro lens but first I think the extension tubes will give me a start. Johns manual ones are a pain in the butt for focusing esp with a breeze :lol:

With spring on the way I will focus a bit more time on getting some flower photos and bees.

If its fine this weekend Im going waterfall shooting, I want to see how much I have learnt in the last 3 months. So if any one wants to come out to karekare (4-5hrs) let me know.

wazza when do you want your glass and 1.4 back?

[Wazza]

Congratulations on the link Warren! Kirst mentioned it to me the other day on the phone, well done all good exposure.

I was going to mention this the over day, but not sure if you were still lurking around.. After all Kirsts last post was 2 months ago!

Anyway, our Noink imposter had a birthday yesterday... Happy birthday again.. hopefully we can make a semi nice appreciation to the shooter with the bad camera. :lol:



Tony: I'm not working Friday and Monday. I have to work Saturday. :rolleyes:
No weekend for me. Poor Kirst.

If you're free tonight, and want to unclench your hands off the lens.. I'll be in Parnell from 8:30 tonight till probably 10:30.. That's just as close to you. ;)

[weka2000]

I was going to create a new thread called "Warbird over Mangere"

here are 3 shots with 3 teles at the longest reach.

[weka2000]

Wazza here yours with a 2xTC and autofocus at 600mm. Dam its a nice peice of glass.

Im guess this is my first lot of shooting a moving object these 3 were the best the rest were so dam fuzzy.
Mind you it hang around for 10min. The local school kids must have meet up with another local school. Rumble in the jungle Mangere style :)

wazza PM your cell

[Wazza]

Wow that 600mm looks good.

www.warrenwilliams.co.nz

Cell is on site.

[weka2000]

Yes it is soooooooooooooooooooooooooo much sharper than my bigma. In fact im thinking of getting 1 to replace my bigma. I would sell my bigma and 24-70 to help fund it.

The only down side is the weight. Work me up to the sigmonster :)

I did learn something about my self after those photos.... I hate action photography, I like to take my time to compose. I guess those who have gone anywhere with me know I dont walk slow and everything is a rush to get there. I run around all day and its the only time I slow down long enough to smell the roses :rolleyes:

[weka2000]

wazza here is a 100% crop

[scotttnz]

Scott is out new resident 1D Series guru

WOW.....I got called a guru at something related to photography.....:)

[weka2000]

WOW.....I got called a guru at something related to photography.....:)

I get called all sorts of things everyday and none of them relate to photography :rolleyes:

[dgcorner]

Nice shots Tony!

If the weathermen are to be believed -- Saturday looks like this (http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/businesstraveler/wxdetail/NZXX0003?dayNum=9)

[forsaken]

Volcanoes is looking very unlikely for myself and Kirst now. :(

As I had mentioned earlier, have some drifting on the same day, which they've just asked me again if I can make it, and please let them know ASAP.


Have fun in Taupo Wazza. Seems I'm not needed/wanted for D2NZ

[dgcorner]

Have fun in Taupo Wazza. Seems I'm not needed/wanted for D2NZ

??? I thought that you had nailed a few nice ones Simon...

Did you finally get your camera cleaned?

Sent my BGE2 for "repairs" now they want my camera to possibly tweak the setting to accept the "newer" grips... well, they're not getting it until after GKPE IV ;-)

[tim]

Ok i'm back... anything interesting happen in the past 10/20 pages? :p

[dgcorner]

Welocome back Tim! I think Pete summarised things pretty much in the previous page... ;-) One thing's certain, the lens bug hasn't let go of Tony ;-)

[weka2000]

Weka's planning :lol: Based on the tests of the Sigma 50-500 Sigma 120-300 and the Canon 100-400 I have come to the conclusion that the Sigma 120-300 is the sharpest and an idea replacement for the bigma. 300mm with 2 xTC produces a way sharper photo that the 50-500mm @500mm.

However in order to pay for it I would have to sell the following Sigma 24-70 Sigma 50-500 and the Canon 70-200F4. This would leave me with Canon 17-40mm 50 F1.4 and 85F1.8. Sigma 120-300.

Beside the weight of the 120-300 can anyone thing of any reasons NOT to do this. I dont really want to loose my Canon 70-200F4 but its for the greater good :)

Is there anything of intrest to anyone if I choose to sell PM me.

[weka2000]

One thing's certain, the lens bug hasn't let go of Tony ;-)

If you have an itch scratch it. If you have the money buy it :lol:
Lifes to short to drink crap coffee.

When you have a good camera dont put cheap glass on it.

[dgcorner]

If you have an itch scratch it. If you have the money buy it :lol:
Lifes to short to drink crap coffee.

When you have a good camera dont put cheap glass on it.

The problem with "scratching an itch" is that more places itch... it is like adding petrol to a wee little fire :lol:

Indeed, life is too short to drink crap coffee.

And, if your 70-200mm was a 2.8 I would really consider prying it off your hands... but money doesn't grow on trees:(

[scotttnz]

Weka's planning :lol: Based on the tests of the Sigma 50-500 Sigma 120-300 and the Canon 100-400 I have come to the conclusion that the Sigma 120-300 is the sharpest and an idea replacement for the bigma. 300mm with 2 xTC produces a way sharper photo that the 50-500mm @500mm.

However in order to pay for it I would have to sell the following Sigma 24-70 Sigma 50-500 and the Canon 70-200F4. This would leave me with Canon 17-40mm 50 F1.4 and 85F1.8. Sigma 120-300.

Beside the weight of the 120-300 can anyone thing of any reasons NOT to do this. I dont really want to loose my Canon 70-200F4 but its for the greater good :)

Is there anything of intrest to anyone if I choose to sell PM me.

Thats a big gap between the 17-40 and 120-300. But if you don't use that range go for it. It's better to have 1 lens you use and love than 3 you don't.

Personally I couldn't live without the 24-70 range (on FF), and you probably would only get $500ish for it, so I would keep that. But if you personally don't use that range......

Shame I've got no $$ to help you out....

[weka2000]

I have my 2 primes 50mm and 85mm so im not having a big gap.

17-40mm 50mm 85mm 120-300mm

[scotttnz]

I have my 2 primes 50mm and 85mm so im not having a big gap.

17-40mm 50mm 85mm 120-300mm

Yeah, it's not too bad. I just hate changing lenses. The main reason I would like a 2nd body is so I could have different lenses on each, and swap cameras rather than lenses.

Must remember to buy a lotto ticket.....

[mrmeal]

Yeah, it's not too bad. I just hate changing lenses. The main reason I would like a 2nd body is so I could have different lenses on each, and swap cameras rather than lenses.

Must remember to buy a lotto ticket.....

Well if you do win Lotto, you'll be able to pay someone to caddy all your camera bodies around for your lense selction on the day. Eithor that or instead of a backback camera bag, you will need a little motorized trailor :)

[weka2000]

Yeah, it's not too bad. I just hate changing lenses. The main reason I would like a 2nd body is so I could have different lenses on each, and swap cameras rather than lenses.

Must remember to buy a lotto ticket.....

Honey Scott whois our 1D guru said I am better off getting another body rather than a lens :lol:

Scott I have spoken to Liza yesterday re the 1D Mk2 @$5000. The problem is that the bigma will still produce less than perfect quality compared to 120-300.

[weka2000]

Dam Scott now Im back looking at 1D Mk 11 reviews. I just worked out why my bird photos are no good(includes helichoppers). Its the autofocus and the 8.5 fps.

Umm keep the bigma put it on the 1D MK11 use the 5D for land scape and portrait......dont have to sell a thing and end up with 2 bodies.

Umm whats wrong with this plan :)

[DiscoLizard]

Umm keep the bigma put it on the 1D MK11 use the 5D for land scape and portrait......dont have to sell a thing and end up with 2 bodies.

Umm whats wrong with this plan :)

It makes me jealous? :D

Might go down to the waterfront and grab some photos of the Mexican ship tonight... They won't be as good as joesephs, but it should be interesting. Any suggestions/tips for settings?

[tag141]

However in order to pay for it I would have to sell the following Sigma 24-70 Sigma 50-500 and the Canon 70-200F4.

That's good news...you get to keep both your kidneys. You do have all your internal organs don't you? With all this talk of extra bodies and lenses it might not be long before you don't !!!

[dgcorner]

Whew, I'm glad that whatever Tony's got isn't contagious:lol: I'd end up with a 2nd or 3rd mortgage, get on my wife's bad side, and booted out of the house!:lol:

Scott, if Tony pushes through with the 1Ds Sandra might keep the welcome mat for good...:lol:

[scotttnz]

Scott I have spoken to Liza yesterday re the 1D Mk2 @$5000. The problem is that the bigma will still produce less than perfect quality compared to 120-300.


I can go and check her out for you if you like.....I mean check it out, the camera that is.

[DiscoLizard]

Dam Scott now Im back looking at 1D Mk 11 reviews. I just worked out why my bird photos are no good(includes helichoppers). Its the autofocus and the 8.5 fps.

Umm keep the bigma put it on the 1D MK11 use the 5D for land scape and portrait......dont have to sell a thing and end up with 2 bodies.

Umm whats wrong with this plan :)
You could even let Mrs Weka have a go with one of them?

[IainB]

I wonder if Centrebet will offer odds on which plan Weka will go with.... The topic is becoming quite absorbing!

[weka2000]

I can go and check her out for you if you like.....I mean check it out, the camera that is.

If you are going in we can go togather. There is another 1 on trademe.

Im better off with a 1DMK2 than a 30D. I wont sell my 5D :lol:


........6 months later hay honey did you know that now I can get a 1Ds MK2 I will sell my 5D to help fund it.
No we can sell both other wise I will be back to where I was 6 months ago :rolleyes:

[weka2000]

You could even let Mrs Weka have a go with one of them?
Tryed that didnt work. All I get now is "well if you really need it" talk about putting a guilt trip on me :lol:

Model update...She forgot, but she gave me her cell and said to ring for Sunday for Karekare. Glad I didnt blow my fuse :)

[Wazza]

Who told you it's the autofocus and 8.5fps?

The 5D is exceptional focus ability due to a 35mm full frame sensor.. I was reading up on it too...
You only ever need 8.5 fps for capturing a big accident or something. Anything else, if you're firing away, the focus will be slightly askew..Much better to compose click, refocus compose click... Lately, I'm getting 95% of shots nicely framed and sharp... A year ago it was 60-80%.

[weka2000]

Who told you it's the autofocus and 8.5fps?

The 5D is exceptional focus ability due to a 35mm full frame sensor.. I was reading up on it too...
You only ever need 8.5 fps for capturing a big accident or something. Anything else, if you're firing away, the focus will be slightly askew..Much better to compose click, refocus compose click... Lately, I'm getting 95% of shots nicely framed and sharp... A year ago it was 60-80%.

I didnt use servo mode yesterday or multi shot. Dont use that side much for either landscape or portrait.

The reason for going to a 1D MK11 is weather sealed and 1.3 crop second body and tele. No use getting it and selling 5D as then I wont have full frame and UWA.

Why do you think sports people us this camera 45point focus system things move.
I was looking back on some photos of the 20D and bigma. There is nothing wrong with the quality.

Im thinking out aloud and as my wife dosnt know anything about cameras you guys as helping me :)

[Wazza]

You've got to look at what's best for your interests.

Personally in your position, I'd definately keep the 5D.. Ignore temptations of a 1DII and also the 120-300

And instead save for 6 months, buy a 30D, and use a 2nd body for 1.6 crop and 70-200 + 50-500.. And 5D with 17-40, 50 1.4 and 85 1.4, knowing DOF is incredibly tighter on FF compared to 1.6x crop.

[weka2000]

You've got to look at what's best for your interests.

Personally in your position, I'd definately keep the 5D.. Ignore temptations of a 1DII and also the 120-300

And instead save for 6 months, buy a 30D, and use a 2nd body for 1.6 crop and 70-200 + 50-500.. And 5D with 17-40, 50 1.4 and 85 1.4, knowing DOF is incredibly tighter on FF compared to 1.6x crop.

Sandra would love your advice and its cheaper than my ideas :)

[mrmeal]

Wazza...aren't you supposed to be talking people into spending more money with the line of work you are in? lol

[weka2000]

Sandra "I like that wazza guy" :rolleyes:

[Wazza]

I've made mistakes in my own choices.. I'm repaying it now...

I still NEED a 1DIII for the fact, I need more megapixel for larger prints.. A2 doesn't cut it.. Also need weather sealing for dust, such as motorsports and rain..

The 120-300 has done me well, but possibly too soon to buy it, when I didn't have the money. Still, I'm not selling it, maybe just hire. :p

[forsaken]

Did you finally get your camera cleaned?



yeah gave it a clean myself and all seems to be good. So thats some money saved that I can spend on a new fuel pump for may car :rolleyes: if its not one thing its another

[weka2000]

I've made mistakes in my own choices.. I'm repaying it now...

I still NEED a 1DIII for the fact, I need more megapixel for larger prints.. A2 doesn't cut it.. Also need weather sealing for dust, such as motorsports and rain..

The 120-300 has done me well, but possibly too soon to buy it, when I didn't have the money. Still, I'm not selling it, maybe just hire. :p

Sometimes we need to over commit in order to make a real commitment. You can tell how seroius people are about their photography by the amount they spend :lol:

Dont forget wazza your talking to someone who meet his wife on a Friday night, got engaged a 2 weeks later and married in 4 months. That was 12.5 yrs ago. Marring Sandra was the best desison I ever made.

When I do something its all or nothing.

[DiscoLizard]

Sometimes we need to over commit in order to make a real commitment. You can tell how seroius people are about their photography by the amount they spend :lol:

Dont forget wazza your talking to someone who meet his wife on a Friday night, got engaged a 2 weeks later and married in 4 months. That was 12.5 yrs ago. Marring Sandra was the best desison I ever made.

When I do something its all or nothing.

So did you say that aloud as you wrote it? Have you got permission for the new gear yet? :D

[dgcorner]

I've made mistakes in my own choices.. I'm repaying it now...

I still NEED a 1DIII for the fact, I need more megapixel for larger prints.. A2 doesn't cut it.. Also need weather sealing for dust, such as motorsports and rain..

The 120-300 has done me well, but possibly too soon to buy it, when I didn't have the money. Still, I'm not selling it, maybe just hire. :p

If it is enlargements you are after I've read that Genuine Fractals is able to enlarge something from a 3.2MP file into a poster sized one... larger still from an 8MP file. This might be the short-term plug while you are saving up for the 1D.

[dgcorner]

yeah gave it a clean myself and all seems to be good. So thats some money saved that I can spend on a new fuel pump for may car :rolleyes: if its not one thing its another

The expenses never end. At least it isn't like you're buning the money up in smoke.;)

[DiscoLizard]

Oh, I think we're in for the GKPE Volcano trip, if you don't mind a couple of real beginners...

We can bring another car if needed? Am I posting this in the right place?

[weka2000]

So did you say that aloud as you wrote it? Have you got permission for the new gear yet? :D

Sandra knows that Im commited to make photography an income. She also know how much I enjoy it....she is still pissed that I want to photgraph other woman and make that our income (sunsets dont pay) ;)

I say everything out loud and as for permission thats not an issue we will work out a deal.

[weka2000]

I see someone in our group is bidding on a 20D :)
FBI?

[DiscoLizard]

Sandra knows that Im commited to make photography an income. She also know how much I enjoy it....she is still pissed that I want to photgraph other woman and make that our income (sunsets dont pay) ;)

I say everything out loud and as for permission thats not an issue we will work out a deal.

Well, from an amateur's point of view, I like your photos, and I'm sure you'll make it to the point where you're earning a good income. I'm looking forward to your portrait shots, I'm pretty keen on portraits myself, so it will be good to see how you go. I find it hard to take photos of Liz that portray her as I see her, I imagine it would be easier to take photos of a model because there is no embarassment and less pressure. I haven't said to her that I want to take photographs of other women tho... Perhaps when I get a decent flash.

[weka2000]

Well, from an amateur's point of view, I like your photos, and I'm sure you'll make it to the point where you're earning a good income. I'm looking forward to your portrait shots, I'm pretty keen on portraits myself, so it will be good to see how you go. I find it hard to take photos of Liz that portray her as I see her, I imagine it would be easier to take photos of a model because there is no embarassment and less pressure. I haven't said to her that I want to take photographs of other women tho... Perhaps when I get a decent flash.

Would she be willing to let someone take her portrait? I have studio lights and softboxes etc

[DiscoLizard]

Would she be willing to let someone take her portrait? I have studio lights and softboxes etc

I can't guarantee it, but probably. I'll ask her when I get home.

[weka2000]

I can't guarantee it, but probably. I'll ask her when I get home.

I have a heap of books on the subject of photographing woman and stuff on post processing if you wish to have a read. Here is a link that may help you get started.

http://tips.romanzolin.com/index/index_studio.shtml

[DiscoLizard]

That's a good link! I've been looking for this stuff for ages! Thanks :)

On that note, I've had enough of working for today, so I'm going home. The plans for taking shots of the tall ship have fallen through in favour of losing some money playing poker.

I'll let you know what Liz says probably tomorrow weka.

[weka2000]

This may intrest most of us. http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials.htm

[forsaken]

I see someone in our group is bidding on a 20D :)
FBI?

FBI = Fran:cool:

[forsaken]

cheers for that link tony.


bookmarked

[weka2000]

cheers for that link tony.
bookmarked

Yes I think a lot will benfit from it I know I will.

[forsaken]

just need to get an oportunity to be able to go through it all, theres alot of info there

[scotttnz]

While we are on this topic, does anybody have a 580EX I can borrow for Friday 11th - Sunday 13th of August. Kerry-Sue has tentatively agreed to let me take some portraits of her on our weekend away. (It's our 10th anniversary!) I'm not sure how much I will use flash, but I would like to experiment with 2 flashes etc.

[NordieBoy]

I see someone in our group is bidding on a 20D :)
FBI?

Several of them :D
Hopefully I'll get one for a decent (cheap) price with or without grip.

[weka2000]

While we are on this topic, does anybody have a 580EX I can borrow for Friday 11th - Sunday 13th of August. Kerry-Sue has tentatively agreed to let me take some portraits of her on our weekend away. (It's our 10th anniversary!) I'm not sure how much I will use flash, but I would like to experiment with 2 flashes etc.

yep let me know when you want to pick up. I also have studio lights, stands umbrellas soft boxes etc.

Dam I have spent a lot :lol:

Hey honey I could start to hire my stuff to pay for the 1DmkII and Sigma 120-300:rolleyes:

[weka2000]

Just found a thread where the bigma is used as a macro :lol:

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=196916&page=3

[theflyingkiwi]

there you go, you can save some money, insteed of buying a macro lens you can just get some ext tubes and use your bigma :)

[weka2000]

I think extension tubes may very well do what I need.

Im off to inspect a 1DMKII this afternoon reserve $4300 take the bigma and see what I get. Mind you for half the price I can get a new 30D. Wekas got an itch and it needs scratching.

Sandra and I have reached an agreement over the 1DMKII :lol:

With wazza and my wife saying the same thing I now know Im on the right track :p

[dgcorner]

Pete -- there goes your answer... Tony will be the first one in the group (at least in Auckland I think) to have a 1 series!

Tony -- when you get the 1-series you will start needing L lenses :lol: We are all eagerly anticipating a lens sale sometime soon:lol: :lol: :lol: sesnel L yub, sesnel L yub, sesnel L yub, sesnel L yub

DiscoLizard -- See you on the 5th. Wherabouts are you at?

Fran - good luck on the 20D. I've just bought myself 2 77mm filters for my coming lenses... and one CP for my 24-70. Can't wait to get the bloody IRD cheque!

[weka2000]

[quote=dgcorner]Pete -- there goes your answer... Tony will be the first one in the group (at least in Auckland I think) to have a 1 series!

Tony -- when you get the 1-series you will start needing L lenses :lol: We are all eagerly anticipating a lens sale sometime soon:lol: :lol: :lol: sesnel L yub, sesnel L yub, sesnel L yub, sesnel L yub

quote]

I havnt got it yet, today is only looking and testing. Mind you when I looked at the 5D and tested I brought it 2 hrs later :lol:

Im not selling any glass just yet. I have got all my glass but I want a bettter sharper bigma (Sigma 120-300 F2.8 with 2xTC)

Do I need a 1D or will a 30D do what I need, these are all things I have to work out. All I do know is that the 5D will not be sold (ummmmm 1DsMKII upgrade)

Im window shopping but I better leave the wallet at home :lol:

[theflyingkiwi]

so this begs the question, who in this little group of photographers is going to get a 1 series first?

[Sweedishcarrot01]

so this begs the question, who in this little group of photographers is going to get a 1 series first?

It won't be me, I don't care much for them.

Upon the release of the MK111, my outlook may change.

I personally think the 5D is the best for image quality (not including phase one, mamiya, hassleblad etc of course)

[weka2000]

so this begs the question, who in this little group of photographers is going to get a 1 series first?

I went, I saw, I touched, I took photos, and I.................. fill in the gap lads :lol:

[tag141]

You came away $5K lighter? I did...

http://tph1.orcon.net.nz/mine.jpg

f*****happy :lol: ...but skint :cry: .

Steep, steep, steep learning curve from a 10D

[forsaken]

no buying anything for me. Wallet goes walkies, 2 x cashflow cards cancelled 2 x visa cards cancelled and me with $0 at my disposal until Thursday at the earliest. But the worst part was the $100 sitting in the note pocket :(

I have my hopes up for there actually being some decent people in the world but I won't hold my breath.

on the plus side we won our inline game 12 - 1

[forsaken]

YouI came away $5K lighter? I did...

http://tph1.orcon.net.nz/mine.jpg

f*****happy :lol: ...but skint :cry: .

Steep, steep, steep learning curve from a 10D



enjoy.




can't wait to see some piccies from your new toy

[DiscoLizard]

Weka - Liz says portraits are fine - I'm guessing she'll want to talk about what you want her to wear etc.

John - the 5th it is! We're in Glenfield, so it's a bit of a drive to the volcanoes, but we'll make it :D

[Wazza]

You could have taken a shot WITH the new beast.. take one into the mirror, that will work.

Enjoy..
Almost as pretty as my 1DIIIN twin turbo

[Wazza]

Simon, that truely sucks.

I've got little money also.. It's been the life ever since I left Westpac. :lol:

Wish I had a bit of spare $$ to share...
Kirst is my own bank manager.

[joeseph]

I went, I saw, I touched, I took photos, and I.................. fill in the gap lads :lol:
Feel free to hang onto the 100-400 for a few days then - I'm not going to have any time spare to be using it. (busy doing stuff like rewiring the lights in our house in the next few dayz) and yes, we want to see your postings from it!

[weka2000]

I came home with a brand new........................ outlook on my 5D and photography. I got vignetting with the bigma on a 1.3 crop. It was nice, solid and had some advantages but not $4300 worth.

Well done tag141 I got to play with both the 1Dn as well.

Ah that feels better I dont itch any more for the 1D. If I was into sports I would have without question.

DiscoLizard get her to PM we can have a chat. Does she have any ideas?

[tag141]

Initial findings (Only driven it round the block) compared to 10D. Review screen is HUGE. It's almost as big as my TV. Startup time is non existent as is the time to chimp (TTC). 10D is click, make a cuppa, look at picture. TTC now, barely get time to move the camera before the pic is there. First time I pressed the shutter I took 5 photos in a row. That button is very sensitive. The 15-30 is even better than before. I think I'm gonna like 1.3.

Gotta work the rest of the weekend so time will be limited. Plus there is no motorsports going down here either. Look forward to Aussie next week.

I think I going to get Weka disease. The one where you want every lens in the catalogue. Now, who doesn't want their shift and call...?

[weka2000]

Yes I found the shutter very different to the 5D. Talk about quick. Wait untill you shoot off 8.5fps sound like a machine gun.

Tag do you have a f4 lens and a 2xTC if you do you shold still get autofocus at F8.
The first thing I do is look at all the add-ons I can buy. Focusing screens etc.

I was tempted, very tempted. What was your reasoning for the 1D?

Weka's bug, hell you dont want that unless you have a wife who earns 2.5x what you do :lol:

[dgcorner]

Tag -- congratulations!!!

Tony -- my hat's off to your self-control ;-)

[tag141]

Why the 1D. Well, when I bought the 10D I wanted a 1d2 but didn't have the funds. I put forward a business proposal to my funding manager but my mother turned me down :rolleyes: !! I decided to learn the camera and take photos better and save. Here I am 2 years later tag141...skint !! Plus I love motorsport and enjoy attending meets.

F4 lens? Ummm, don't know I'm afraid but I'll have a play.

Two things have come out of this. My missus always has a problem buying xmas pressies. Not any longer. Anything with an L love. Plus I told her not to let me upgrade for at least 5 years so she gets the holidays, furniture, kitchen...they're so not practical.

[weka2000]

Yes John I was very controlled. Now about that Sigma 120-300mm. Oh honey I saved us heaps by NOT buying the 1DmkII so pretty please can I have a new lens :lol:

[theflyingkiwi]

hmmm 1DMK2n, droll. oh well I have to get a car first :( otherwise it would be nice to have. even for bragging rights.

so who is the store that has these things in stock, I would guess auckland camera center.

[Sweedishcarrot01]

Anyone know where I can buy things such as this in New Zealand?

http://www.pbase.com/copperhill/ccd_cleaning

[dgcorner]

Anyone know where I can buy things such as this in New Zealand?

http://www.pbase.com/copperhill/ccd_cleaning

Aaron, this might be the closest: http://www.photo.co.nz/newprods/newccd_clean.htm

There's this retailer in Oz who sells them -- around $70 landed NZ. Now I just have to find the bookmark:confused: Will get back to you

[joeseph]

Got my last lot of pec-pad/eclipse from Wellington photographic http://www.wps.net.nz/ read my sig for the results...
system works well, just be careful of stuff that doesn't move easily! you have been warned.

[Sweedishcarrot01]

So seen as most of you have met each other in person, thought I would get a little more personal and post a self portrait so you all know what I look like. Took it just now in my room, held the flash in my had and fired it several times on a 6 second exposure... just for fun.

Thanks for the sensor cleaning tips guys.

[weka2000]

NZfritz did you ever get the red light issue sorted out in your long exposures?

Intresting photo, I think about things but never try them out.

[dgcorner]

Aaron, here's the official distributor from CopperHill themselves: www.qualitycamera.com.au

[weka2000]

Well looks like another know show AGAIN :evil:

Did some nudes yesterday and they came out really well, best Ive done. Sandra was pleased with the result but sorry cant post. The funny thing was I end up with condensation on the lens and it gave a ghost like feel to my photos. The camera and lens were cold but the heater was on in the lounge, took me a while to work it out.

I setup the lounge and just use natural light. I would have done a bit better if I had a reflecter but there is always next time :lol:

The next stage is to get skin colours correct in CS2 and learn the PP side a lot more with out over doing it.

[dgcorner]

. . .The funny thing was I end up with condensation on the lens and it gave a ghost like feel to my photos. The camera and lens were cold but the heater was on in the lounge, took me a while to work it out.


Me thinks that you were just breathing too hard.:lol:

[weka2000]

Me thinks that you were just breathing too hard.:lol:

Only 1 way to find out John :p

[IainB]

Can't wait to get the bloody IRD cheque!

Shouldn't be long now....I've not long paid them a big lump of provisional tax so they should be flush! :evil:

[IainB]

Rang Auckland Camera yesterday about a sigma 10-20 and was told "I think we have just one left." I quizzed them and it turns out it is a demo model - but no discount thank you very much! I've had this response before - "just one left" - on other gear I've asked about. What's the experience among the group? I don't think I'll ever buy the 'last one' from them based on this revelation.
Another matter...
I've bought most of my gear from them over a couple of years and spent a pretty reasonable sum. On the matter of price, I've asked them, in person, if they considered customer spend and loyalty, but it seems to receive a discount I should have spent it all at once! I'm keen to know how you have been treated in this regard by AC, and who gets a good deal there. Has anyone scored a discount there?

[tim]

Anyone know where I can buy things such as this in New Zealand?

http://www.pbase.com/copperhill/ccd_cleaning

I think htp://www.nulab.com.au sells them too, I got my fluid from there and the copperhill kit directly from the us, sans fluid.

[Sweedishcarrot01]

[QUOTE=weka2000]NZfritz did you ever get the red light issue sorted out in your long exposures?


No, not as yet, need to give canon a call when I get a spare moment during the week. Still yet to try a long exposure with the lens cap on, the view finder covered and a dense cloth over the camera.

[Sweedishcarrot01]

I think htp://www.nulab.com.au sells them too, I got my fluid from there and the copperhill kit directly from the us, sans fluid.

Thanks guys for all your help with the sensor cleaning kits.

[weka2000]

I have found Auckland Camera to be helpful and freindly. Cheap no, trademe hasnt helped and either has imports. They are cheaper than camera and camera and Harvey Norman.

We as a group could start our own camera shop :lol:

Oh the "model" rang me had to pospone due to a issue with a sick person.

[Sweedishcarrot01]

Anyone else use pro gear? They usually hook me up o.k.

[scotttnz]

Rang Auckland Camera yesterday about a sigma 10-20 and was told "I think we have just one left." I quizzed them and it turns out it is a demo model - but no discount thank you very much! I've had this response before - "just one left" - on other gear I've asked about. What's the experience among the group? I don't think I'll ever buy the 'last one' from them based on this revelation.
Another matter...
I've bought most of my gear from them over a couple of years and spent a pretty reasonable sum. On the matter of price, I've asked them, in person, if they considered customer spend and loyalty, but it seems to receive a discount I should have spent it all at once! I'm keen to know how you have been treated in this regard by AC, and who gets a good deal there. Has anyone scored a discount there?

Iain, I don't think I would be too worried about a lens that had been on display, and demoed, but would not be so keen on a camera body, depending on the shutter release count. Auckland camera's prices are pretty sharp for most things too, not far off the NZ online retailers, and in some cases cheaper. I guess I see it as a trade-off. You can buy from an online retailer, and not have the opportunity to see and try these things, or you can see and try them at a real store, but as a result of that there is a chance that other people have played with the lens you buy. I know I have played with plenty of lenses at AC that have gone back in the cabinet afterwards, and no doubt others have bought and taken home with them. Swings and Roundabouts.......Call it karma if you like. (But I am also happy to buy second hand lenses, which others are not!)

I would consider AC my first port of call if I want to buy something new, but I wouldn't say I hold any loyalty to them, it's just that they treat me well, and prices are good. I don't hesitate to buy elsewhere if I can get a better deal(trademe is a more likely option for me these days.)

We all spend a fair bit on our photography, but compared to a full on pro it is probably not that much, and I don't imagine that their margins are good enough to give a discount to anyone who ever spent a few thousand dollars with them.

My $0.02

[weka2000]

Anyone else use pro gear? They usually hook me up o.k.

Been there once, had a play but didnt spend.

[IainB]

I would consider AC my first port of call if I want to buy something new, but I wouldn't say I hold any loyalty to them, it's just that they treat me well, and prices are good. I don't hesitate to buy elsewhere if I can get a better deal(trademe is a more likely option for me these days.)

We all spend a fair bit on our photography, but compared to a full on pro it is probably not that much, and I don't imagine that their margins are good enough to give a discount to anyone who ever spent a few thousand dollars with them.

My $0.02

An appreciated 2c too, Scott! I've certainly no complaint about their being helpful, and prices pretty good for a face to face retailer. I wouldn't have gone back time and time again if it were otherwise. Good to hear your views on the lens thing - you make a fair point.

Thanks too, Weka for your input. Reckon if we started a shop we'd quickly end up sampling the stock as they say!

[weka2000]

Thanks too, Weka for your input. Reckon if we started a shop we'd quickly end up sampling the stock as they say!

Well we have to test it so we know what we are talking about

[tag141]

We all spend a fair bit on our photography
Another reason I splashed out. A quick poll around my work colleagues made me realise I didn't spend an awful lot. One has to have the latest boat and engine, another spends all their money on horses. Me/we, probably have a fairly cheap hobby.

Auckland Camera Center were kind enough to offer a 30D or a 5D until I got my 1D. Kudos to them as no-one did. Pro Gear, didn't have a single problem when I first bought my D30. I am, however, someone who wants a few $ off if the goods have been handled.

[dgcorner]

Shouldn't be long now....I've not long paid them a big lump of provisional tax so they should be flush! :evil:

This provisional tax thing really has got me scratching my head... why should we advance tax when we haven't earned anything yet...

You're after the 10-20mm at Auckland Camera too!!! Oh boy, looks like I may have long to wait for the replacement stocks to come...

Aaron - btw, that Aussie retailer of the CopperHill stuff happens to be a Kiwi too! He emailed me to confirm that they ship to NZ.

[Sweedishcarrot01]

Aaron - btw, that Aussie retailer of the CopperHill stuff happens to be a Kiwi too! He emailed me to confirm that they ship to NZ.[/QUOTE]

Great, thanks dg

[IainB]

Aaron - btw, that Aussie retailer of the CopperHill stuff happens to be a Kiwi too! He emailed me to confirm that they ship to NZ.

Great, thanks dg[/quote]

I bought it from him - no problems.

[IainB]

This provisional tax thing really has got me scratching my head... why should we advance tax when we haven't earned anything yet...

You're after the 10-20mm at Auckland Camera too!!! Oh boy, looks like I may have long to wait for the replacement stocks to come...



With prov tax, you earn for 4 months :) , then pay tax on third of year's estimated earnings:confused: ....another 4 months, do the same:( .....and again a third time! :evil:
Re the 10-20 - I can wait :cool: I think....:confused:

[scotttnz]

Not much photography happening around here....I took 11 shots all weekend!

I think this is the best one:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a310/scotttnz/IMG_0016.jpg

[theflyingkiwi]

grrrrr don't ya just hate that. I was just browsing the directory where my pictures are stored and I was shocked. The folder that I used to store the photos taken at raglan beach a few weeks ago was missing. the strange thing is I don't know how.

I don't remember deleting them and I did a serch for a file that should be there on all my drives and zip, nada. :confused:

The good news is a data recovery program for NTFS has just about to finish so I hope to get them back.

[Sweedishcarrot01]

grrrrr don't ya just hate that. I was just browsing the directory where my pictures are stored and I was shocked. The folder that I used to store the photos taken at raglan beach a few weeks ago was missing. the strange thing is I don't know how.

I don't remember deleting them and I did a serch for a file that should be there on all my drives and zip, nada. :confused:

The good news is a data recovery program for NTFS has just about to finish so I hope to get them back.

we'll hang out soon hey?

[IainB]

Re Edge of Darkness - Nice work Scott.

[OiPaz]

At last yesterday I went to the Zoo in Auckland.
Good weather (until mid afternoon), but lots of lots of lots of children everywhere. Never again during weekend! ;)
Now I have to check more that 400 RAWs. But I am happy I was able to shot a parrot, at long last. Two of them, actually. Kissing each other! :)

[dgcorner]

Scott -- nice pics.

Mark -- I hope you find the pics.

Mario -- cool parrots.

[FlyingPete]

With prov tax, you earn for 4 months :) , then pay tax on third of year's estimated earnings:confused: ....another 4 months, do the same:( .....and again a third time! :evil:
Re the 10-20 - I can wait :cool: I think....:confused:

Near enough, or you pay a third for your years estimated earnings but have only earnt 1/6th, that is the bit I hate :evil: (why a 1/6, billing cycles, leave and a rate increase in the later part of the finacial year).

[Moppie]

Well I got up really early this morning in the hope of getting a sunrise.
Iv seen some nice on lately on the way to work, so Iv taken the day off work.
Unforuntatly the camera never even left the camera bag, there was just lots of ugly grey cloud.

[theflyingkiwi]

Mark -- I hope you find the pics.

Funny you should say that. The card that I was using I had removed and put aside after transfering the files. Today when I was doing a spot of cleaning I thought, I just put the card back in the camera and format it. Lucky I checked the contents before doing so. My pictures are still on it :) yay

I was havinga bad computer day yesterday. a disk that had a bunch of media files on I can't read it any more. :(

I am sure there is a moral to the story somewhere.

Nice sunset and some pretty birds :)

[weka2000]

Scott great photo. Well now that I have stopped itching over a 1DmkII I have discovered that part of what I wanted it for I could do with the 5D.....Birds in flight.

Same princapals apply as fast motorsports. So a Sigma 120-300 F2.8 is now on my list. I will also be upgrading my 70-200F4 to a 70-200 F2.8 before to long.

Scott you are right about selling the Sigma 24-70 I used it a lot on Saterday in my lounge so its a keeper.

[Wazza]

LMAO.

Can't keep up.

I shot a few over the weekend, and I have today off, as I worked both Saturday and Sunday. :(

Look out for couple of landscapes, and maybe a yacht or two

[Moppie]

I shot a few over the weekend, and I have today off, as I worked both Saturday and Sunday. :(



Looks like we both choose exactly the wrong to have off work.
This weather is crap.

[Wazza]

Yeah. I was covering another staff member who had a birthday to attend on Saturday. I owed her anyway, as she covered me 2 weeks ago, when I had to do the drifting at Pukekohe. :)
Finished my 10 shots, now just to make a simple page.

[mrmeal]

yes this weather is ass. Was going to take the day off myself, just to do a few things that remained loose ends over the weekend. Stupidly I decided against it and came to work to find the building roof leaks directly above my head. It might as well be raining inside!

[Wazza]

Lmao Hayden.

Busy weekend?

Yeah, so I had work, then sports watching in the evening.. you can probably tell....

Kirst was enjoying herself :lol:

[mrmeal]

She seemed to be keeping busy, we asked her out yesterday afternoon, but she had other stuff on.

[::John::]

.....Birds in flight.

Same princapals apply as fast motorsports. So a Sigma 120-300 F2.8 is now on my list. I will also be upgrading my 70-200F4 to a 70-200 F2.8 before to long.


Goodluck with them in flight - they have a tendancy to suddenly shift off into another direction when they are being tracked - or skimming behind a branch just as you press the shutter...

I have been 'attacking' them with the 100-400 and am often finding it is just not long enough.

On another note, how is your 17-40 going on the 5D? I am picking up the 16-35 today and am hoping for a good sharp one.

Sorry about the weather over there chaps - lovely day here :)

[weka2000]

You see rain, I see photo oppotunitys. Ummm thats right I have got to work to pay for my new toys.

Wazza I think the 1D Mk 3 will be for you with the type of photography you do. I hope it will drive the others down in price. That way I can get a 1DnMkII

[weka2000]

On another note, how is your 17-40 going on the 5D? I am picking up the 16-35 today and am hoping for a good sharp one.
:)

The 17-40 is perfect on my 5D. I love FF. The birding should be a great learning curve. I am a nature person and with spring comming all the Tuis, wood pigeons and the flowers, bees etc.

[::John::]

The 17-40 is perfect on my 5D. I love FF. The birding should be a great learning curve. I am a nature person and with spring comming all the Tuis, wood pigeons and the flowers, bees etc.

Cool - thanks for that.

As for the birds - I imagine the Tui will present a challenge with its colouring scheme (and I know you love a challenge). Over here, they tend to 'cheat' and just present multi-coloured birds :)

Wood Pigeons - yeah, the 'illegal tegel' - cool bird and nice to get

[CliveyBoy]

I thought of the Aucklanders when I read this in the EOS-Magazine newsletter:
Canon has beaten its own profit forecast for the second quarter of 2006. Gross profit totalled $4.37 billion, 0.7 percent higher than forecast. Compared to last year, net sales increased by 13 percent, gross profit by 16 percent, operating profit by 33 percent and net income by 29 percent.

Well done for your contribution!:D

[Wazza]

Holy damn. That's some large profits..

Well, my company makes $40billion a year, maybe was mistaken. :lol:

[Wazza]

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=197886
Some landscapes...

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=197874
And some Canon sailing.

[scotttnz]

Had a little play with the new Sony SLR this morning. One of the guys at work has got one (He had a KM film SLR & lenses). I haven't got any test shots but my impressions are. Build quility is OK, probably better than the 350D, but not as good as a 20D. I didn't like the handling. I'm no big fan of the 350D handling (although the battery grip helps a lot!) but the Sony felt awkward in my hand, and I couldn't get a comfortable grip on it. The shutter button felt too far back to me and hard to reach. The other controls seemed OK, but obviously unfamliar.
The kit lens seemed to be better than the canon kit lens. Although I can't coment on the optics, build quality, focus speed, and general feel of the lens was better than mine.
It was kind of strange only having one LCD. All the settings etc are displayed on the chimping screen.....not sure what that will do for battery life! It was a nice big screen though.
Overall my impression is that it is a very nice CONSUMER level camera. It looks nice, and has lots of good marketable features (Anti shake, 10MP, SONY name on it, KM accessories support and heritage). I'm not sure if the handling issue was just because I am unfamiliar with it, but I have not had the same issue when handling 20D, 5D, and some Nikons.
I'm sure it will sell well, but I won't be jumping ship. Hopefully it will have a positive effect on the market, it will be interesting to see what Canon's response will be....

[theflyingkiwi]

Overall my impression is that it is a very nice CONSUMER level camera. It looks nice, and has lots of good marketable features (Anti shake, 10MP, SONY name on it, KM accessories support and heritage). I'm not sure if the handling issue was just because I am unfamiliar with it, but I have not had the same issue when handling 20D, 5D, and some Nikons.
I'm sure it will sell well, but I won't be jumping ship. Hopefully it will have a positive effect on the market, it will be interesting to see what Canon's response will be....

That's interesting. I am sure Canon got there hands on it quickly and are pulling it apart as we type words on a keyboard.

The good thing about the sony is going to make the big players for SLR cameras to better there product. Also dropping the price :)

I guess in a month or 2 we will find out what canon is going to do.

[FlyingPete]

...I'm sure it will sell well, but I won't be jumping ship. Hopefully it will have a positive effect on the market, it will be interesting to see what Canon's response will be....

Hmmm, I think they will have to respond to the Megapixel war soon, those of us "in the know" know that the difference between 8 and 10MP is net really that much of a big deal, but those marketing people it is everything.

Noink are releasing a 10MP replacement for the D70 in the next few weeks, Canon will be feeling the presure now...

[dgcorner]

Hey guys, give this guy a warm welcome -- Tim_bo (http://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=196508&highlight=GKPE) -- posted 4 days ago and no one else has said hello ;-)

[dgcorner]

Hmm... I have this feeling that my IRD cheque is arriving soon -- there aren't any 70-200mm EX DGs being advertised in TradeMe... and it looks like Mattoron's sales are being pulled out by TradeMe customer service... I should give Auckland Camera a call and check on availability and updated pricing...

[weka2000]

Cool 12mp 1Dmk3, wazzas dreams are comming true :lol:

Mattoron's just another one, they come they go. Give it a week and he will get a new name
B&H is my choice

[tim]

Welcome to Tim_bo!

Unless Canon come up with some improvements in their physical sensor design i'm not sure i'd want a 1.6X crop camera with 10MP. A 12MP 1DMk3 would be interesting though. The only thing that's good for really is cropping, since you won't get a signficant amount more detail. I wouldn't even have a 5D, because the lens has to bend the light further you get much more distortion. I've asked the guy who works for me shooting weddings to use the 20D for group shots unless he can use 50mm+ on his 5D.

B&H is worth checking out, but Auckland Camera can be cheaper than B&H once you take shipping and GST into account.

[Wazza]

12Mp? where are you reading that