GKPE: General Ramblings thread

[NordieBoy]

That has got to be one of the best q & e on trade me I've ever seen!
Question & Elucidation?

[weka2000]

New entertainment if nothings on TV read trademe sure to get a laugh.

[forsaken]

I'll do my best to avoid giving any proof of my lack of dancing ability :oops: unless there are significant amounts of alcohol involved. If only I was a big fan of deathmetal or grunge, then I could just jump up and down...



I resemble that remark :)





wheres the jumping_up_and_down_like_a_mad_man smilie???

[weka2000]

Moppie check out Glams prices 30D

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Digital-cameras/Over-6-megapixel/auction-66700268.htm

- the trade me fees maybe worth a ask

Umm No desent 1D cameras at the moment :(

[Wazza]

Going to Pool Simon?

Will see you there tonight. No Kirst however.. She's got an important dinner date.

[forsaken]

spiro0 seems like a bit of an ass

[Moppie]

Moppie check out Glams prices 30D



Iv seen it :)
I happen to know he will knock about $55 off that price if you get it direct from him, not via trademe :)

[Wazza]

What's the link to this talked about trademe auction.

[MHP]

Joeseph- That one tops it, totally had me ROFL.... made my day!!

[weka2000]

What's the link to this talked about trademe auction.

it for the 70-200f2.8

[joeseph]

What's the link to this talked about trademe auction.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Camera-accessories/Lenses/Canon/auction-66372993.htm

[weka2000]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Camera-accessories/Lenses/Canon/auction-66372993.htm

Duncan I see a 70-200IS fitting in nice with your current collection wonder if he will sell his new one :rolleyes:

Umm think I will take a punt on this while I am at it.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Camera-accessories/Lenses/Canon/auction-66643854.htm

Reveiws are great NON IS reserves about $950 might make for a good tele prime

[forsaken]

Going to Pool Simon?

Will see you there tonight. No Kirst however.. She's got an important dinner date.


yeah I'll pop in for a while, if the car battery gets enough charge in it to start

[NordieBoy]

Duncan I see a 70-200IS fitting in nice with your current collection wonder if he will sell his new one :rolleyes:

Umm think I will take a punt on this while I am at it.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Camera-accessories/Lenses/Canon/auction-66643854.htm

Reveiws are great NON IS reserves about $950 might make for a good tele prime
Looks like an $800 reserve.

[joeseph]

Duncan I see a 70-200IS fitting in nice with your current collection wonder if he will sell his new one :rolleyes:
Yeah would be nice - sadly the accountants answer is "not at this time" have to see how we handle things on less than half our current incomes for awhile before getting into such expenditure...

[weka2000]

Looks like an $800 reserve.

I was never any good with money ;)

[FlyingPete]

Yeah would be nice - sadly the accountants answer is "not at this time" have to see how we handle things on less than half our current incomes for awhile before getting into such expenditure...

How is all the planning going?

[Moppie]

Looks like the 70-200 just hit 1760, I think someone else wants it worse than you do Tony

[joeseph]

How is all the planning going?
planning? there should be planning? :-) not too bad really - to de-clutter (someone fell over my tripod when arriving home this evening, not a happy camper either :-( ) first one has to replace the fabric-covered wiring in the roof. Then one has to install fibreglass batts in said roof (current stage) then one has to install boards across the roof trusses to hold general crap-about-the-place. Hows things at your end? much easier knowing whats happening or does knowledge of said event cause problems in itself?

[joeseph]

Looks like the 70-200 just hit 1760, I think someone else wants it worse than you do Tony
methinks there's gonna be a gunfight...

[tag141]

Looks like the 70-200 just hit 1760, I think someone else wants it worse than you do Tony

Last of the late bidders...he who dares, wins.

[joeseph]

Last of the late bidders...he who dares, wins.
I'll chip in $20 - go for it Tony...

[NordieBoy]

I'm in for $20 - Don't want Tony to go without a 70-200.
He's not getting this one back :D

[joeseph]

I think 10:31 is the nominated time...

[scotttnz]

Anyone used these guys before?

http://www.bigposters.co.nz/

Good luck Tony!

[dgcorner]

Ok John will keep my ears open, I can imagine that is quite a narrow field in NZ, I know of only one other person in that line of work.

There is always some bugger worse off as I saw this morning when i drove past a house on fire in Cook Street Howick this mornig, the place had been gutted.

Thanks Steve!

Hey, you live in the area -- Moppie, Scott, Pete and I live in Pakuranga!

[weka2000]

I'll chip in $20 - go for it Tony...

I may need it. I hate these price wars the only person that wins is the seller .
Prefer the buy now. Mind you I always have in my mind a top amount and I dont go over.

These has been murmors that Canon have stopped making this lens. FMreview a few guys have commented, anyone heard anything?

[weka2000]

Just had this pointd out. May come in handy for many of us

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Canon-Lenses/Canon-Lens-Aging.aspx

Interesting about the 300 F4, never assume I guess

[weka2000]

To rich for my blood. 1800 was my max. Umm now I have no 70-200 :o

[joeseph]

To rich for my blood. 1800 was my max. Umm now I have no 70-200 :o
well done Tony - you should send paul196 an invoice for pushing the price up for him...
there'll be other 70-200's and as they 2.2k new I'm sure you'll find one...

[Wazza]

A job opportunity for those in Auckland, with a CANON SLR, and flash setup, for August 26th, for taking shots for 2-3 hours at a Uni ball. (typically they have a mini studio setup, would be ideal with Tony's setup), however they've said to walk around and take shots. I can tell you a 580EX plus maybe 3 sets of batteries will be a must.

Let me know if you're interested, so I can give another response to this guy.

Charges.. Well possible a fee for being there, and then a cost per print.
As an example..

$5 6x4"
$8 6x8"
$20 12x8"
or $10-20 for a digital image.

Possibly may need a gallery also. With password protection.. ;)

The reason I'm busy...
http://wazza.nfscity.com/d1nz.jpg

[MattL]

Took one photo out the car window as I drove past after dropping the kids at school, I would never make a photo journalist as I felt guilty taking photos of someone elses misfortune.

Gah! I drove down cook st this morning, had to get my tires done at the place on vincent ave. Then went and had a trim at whiskers!

what time was alll this happening?

Matt

[MattL]

you want funny q & a, read this one: :lol:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Other-electronics/Other/auction-66840349.htm
(thanks to aardvark.co.nz for pointing it out...)

Yeah that about tops the list of the funniest i've ever read! My lines have fever!

[MattL]

Thanks Steve!

Hey, you live in the area -- Moppie, Scott, Pete and I live in Pakuranga! Dont forget me!

[Wazza]

This still isn't as good as the product I'm designing. I'll let you know once I've worked out how to get 100% power savings. It's called the flux capacitor, but I won't share my diagrams until I can prove it's safe. posted by: skwazza (10 ) 12:32 am, Fri 18 Aug

The 30% power saver..

[weka2000]

well done Tony - you should send paul196 an invoice for pushing the price up for him...
there'll be other 70-200's and as they 2.2k new I'm sure you'll find one...

$1820 was price paid.
Fran has your new 70-200 hit the south Is yet?

[MHP]

A job opportunity for those in Auckland, with a CANON SLR, and flash setup, for August 26th, for taking shots for 2-3 hours at a Uni ball. (typically they have a mini studio setup, would be ideal with Tony's setup), however they've said to walk around and take shots. I can tell you a 580EX plus maybe 3 sets of batteries will be a must.

Let me know if you're interested, so I can give another response to this guy.

Charges.. Well possible a fee for being there, and then a cost per print.
As an example..

$5 6x4"
$8 6x8"
$20 12x8"
or $10-20 for a digital image.

Possibly may need a gallery also. With password protection.. ;)

The reason I'm busy...



If you get no takers give me a yell, I'll help you out. I used to photograph schools, Balls and events.
I don't have a password protected site, but can set em all up on a page and stamp em all with a SAMPLE ONLY.
I woudn't sell the digital image though if I was you, unless thats what makes or breaks the job for you. Thats your call though.

Mark.

[weka2000]

Canon 70-200F2.8 from B&H $1735 landed (dont know about customs charges)

[FlyingPete]

Canon 70-200F2.8 from B&H $1735 landed (dont know about customs charges)

Customs charges are usually only GST if the item is over $500NZ, which that lens is so add 12.5% to that.

[dgcorner]

Dont forget me!

Oopsy -- yes, you too!!! :oops:

[dgcorner]

Canon 70-200F2.8 from B&H $1735 landed (dont know about customs charges)

That plus GST = $1951.90 -- $129.35 difference to Graham's price... If it was me, I'd pay the $130 as insurance to get local warranty.

EDIT: now, if only I had my cheque we could order in bulk then split the savings ;-)

[weka2000]

Customs charges are usually only GST if the item is over $500NZ, which that lens is so add 12.5% to that.

Ah that explains why I never got any xtra charges on the smaller bits I got in. Thanks for that info.

[NordieBoy]

$1820 was price paid.
Fran has your new 70-200 hit the south Is yet?
Your item number WK309661826NZ was picked up at 6:08 AM on 18 Aug 2006 and is currently with a courier for delivery.

I think that means it's going to arrive today!

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[NordieBoy]

Customs charges are usually only GST if the item is over $500NZ, which that lens is so add 12.5% to that.
I thought it was $400NZ.
If the GST amount is $50 or more.

[weka2000]

I think that means it's going to arrive today!

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

See the smiles a weka can put on peoples faces, now I have someone wanting to buy my Sigma 24-70 :lol:
do we have an offer on the bigma anyone (ikirst you want it)

What are the canon gods trying to tell me :rolleyes:

BUY PRIMES :)

[Wazza]

If you get no takers give me a yell, I'll help you out. I used to photograph schools, Balls and events.
I don't have a password protected site, but can set em all up on a page and stamp em all with a SAMPLE ONLY.
I woudn't sell the digital image though if I was you, unless thats what makes or breaks the job for you. Thats your call though.

Mark.

Thanks,

It's not really helping me out, but the client.

I'll let you know if they get back to me and still require someone. Obviously it would be your own rates.
:cool:

[rabsoft]

Oopsy -- yes, you too!!! :oops:

Me three just live slightly higher than Moppie :)

[Wazza]

I see when I made a question to the trademe power saver post... There were already 6 people with questions, now there's 9 still unanswered...
Yet mine was answered. :lol:

[MattL]

someone wanting to buy my Sigma 24-70 :lol:



Is that one of those 2.8 siggys? What are they like? Everyone seems to have em and I think thats range I would find quite useful. Whats the price tag on one of those?

[NordieBoy]

I've got the 28-70 f2.8 and I like it.
HSM would be good (and quiet) though.

[NordieBoy]

See the smiles a weka can put on peoples faces, now I have someone wanting to buy my Sigma 24-70 :lol:
do we have an offer on the bigma anyone (ikirst you want it)

What are the canon gods trying to tell me :rolleyes:

BUY PRIMES :)
That 300 F4 L is still nice :D

[weka2000]

Is that one of those 2.8 siggys? What are they like? Everyone seems to have em and I think thats range I would find quite useful. Whats the price tag on one of those?

Very good. Sharp as hell and $925 at AC new Sigmas lens all went up in price
PM with an offer.

The focus is noisy but they were all like that and thats why some people complained

[tim]

$5 6x4"
$8 6x8"
$20 12x8"
or $10-20 for a digital image.

Possibly may need a gallery also. With password protection.. ;)


Oooh, i'll do it! So long as they move the ball to Wellington ;)

I used to have print charges like that, but I put them up recently to encourage people to get an album instead of prints. 6x4s and 5x7s now cost the same, just because I hate 6x4s. Too ordinary looking.

[weka2000]

That 300 F4 L is still nice :D

10 years old non IS $800 reserve umm has possibilitys.

[FlyingPete]

I thought it was $400NZ.
If the GST amount is $50 or more.

Yep you are right, I knew there was a 5 in there somewhere :rolleyes:

What really sucks about that whole thing is it is GST on the amount you are billed, so you pay GST on postage as well :evil: Well I had to last time I got hit anyway.

[NordieBoy]

10 years old non IS $800 reserve umm has possibilitys.
The teenaged 200 2.8L we got looks well used and is a sweet lens esp. for $480 :D
Pity I never get to use it.
It seems stuck on my mates 10D :(

[Wazza]

Oooh, i'll do it! So long as they move the ball to Wellington ;)

I used to have print charges like that, but I put them up recently to encourage people to get an album instead of prints. 6x4s and 5x7s now cost the same, just because I hate 6x4s. Too ordinary looking.

How would you sell an album to each student?

It's to each individual

[tim]

How would you sell an album to each student?

It's to each individual

I know. I wouldn't bother covering something like that unless it was for fun, there's far too much hastle around either printing on the night, or loads of issues with printing later, mailing them, etc.

[MHP]

There used to be a company in Hamilton that could deal with all that for you I think, you just shoot and load them to their system, obviously for a price.
Just did a search but cannot find them.

Will make some calls and see if they're still going. I'll post the details if I find them

[Wazza]

Hey Mark, I've sent the guy your website with contact info. Just if you're still wanting to do it. Not sure if he will be in touch.

Requirements were just for 2-3 hours on Sautrday 26th August.

PS. Your real estate photography, are you sticking to just North Shore side?
I suppose there's some big names around each corner

[downunder]

Thanks Steve!

Hey, you live in the area -- Moppie, Scott, Pete and I live in Pakuranga!

Not to far away, lived in Howick most of my life, currently in Dannemora (seven oaks)

[downunder]

Gah! I drove down cook st this morning, had to get my tires done at the place on vincent ave. Then went and had a trim at whiskers!

what time was alll this happening?

Matt

All happened between 8am and 8.30 roads were busy as it was school drop off time, also lots of howick college kids watching.

[FlyingPete]

Has anyone here done any work with continuous lighting? I am looking at it as an alternative to standard Speedlites or Studio strobes. As many of you are aware my daughter has a sensitivity to flashes (we have seen a specialist about this and it is the same light sensitivity that albinos have) so we can't use flash guns around her.

Up until now any family and friends portraits have been done using natural light, but I am aware of using continuous lighting if you can get it bright enough, as colour can easily be corrected by using the correct WB for the light.

It would be quite easy to assemble to lights that would provide around 500W equivalent of light using Compact Fluros. I am reluctant to use halogen or tungsten due to the heat output.

What would be really useful is to find out is how much light you need to be useful, I am not sure if 1000W would cut it.

Any thoughts or ideas?

[MHP]

Hey Mark, I've sent the guy your website with contact info. Just if you're still wanting to do it. Not sure if he will be in touch.

Requirements were just for 2-3 hours on Sautrday 26th August.

PS. Your real estate photography, are you sticking to just North Shore side?
I suppose there's some big names around each corner


Cool now worrries, I'll be in Taranaki over the weekend so couldn't organize anything until early next week anyway.

Yeah pretty much, North Shore, Hibiscus Coast and Warkworth areas.

Are you interested in delving into the property photography market?:cool:

[MHP]

Has anyone here done any work with continuous lighting? I am looking at it as an alternative to standard Speedlites or Studio strobes. As many of you are aware my daughter has a sensitivity to flashes (we have seen a specialist about this and it is the same light sensitivity that albinos have) so we can't use flash guns around her.

Up until now any family and friends portraits have been done using natural light, but I am aware of using continuous lighting if you can get it bright enough, as colour can easily be corrected by using the correct WB for the light.

It would be quite easy to assemble to lights that would provide around 500W equivalent of light using Compact Fluros. I am reluctant to use halogen or tungsten due to the heat output.

What would be really useful is to find out is how much light you need to be useful, I am not sure if 1000W would cut it.

Any thoughts or ideas?

Haven't worked with them, so don't know much about them, but i understand they have to be quite close to the subject. Good for products apparently. unsure if they would have heat issues with a human, try googling I'm sure you'll get the info you need. I searched them a while back and got some good info on them, sorry, but my brain forgets info it doesn't need to remember ;-)

[dgcorner]

Me three just live slightly higher than Moppie :)

:oops: Gosh, aren't we growing like mushrooms! :oops:

[weka2000]

:oops: Gosh, aren't we growing like mushrooms! :oops:

Mushrooms....umm Bigheads, small bodys and thrive in ......... :lol:

Sorry couldnt resist

[FlyingPete]

:oops: Gosh, aren't we growing like mushrooms! :oops:

You guys could probably share a web connection! Its not that hard to throw out a large signal, the people at the end of my street can get mine! (Just as well that it is secure!).

[FlyingPete]

Haven't worked with them, so don't know much about them, but i understand they have to be quite close to the subject. Good for products apparently. unsure if they would have heat issues with a human, try googling I'm sure you'll get the info you need. I searched them a while back and got some good info on them, sorry, but my brain forgets info it doesn't need to remember ;-)

No worries, I have used them for product shooting and they did work well, but no where near grunty enough for portrait work. Did think of using theatre lights, can get Par Cans cheap, but then there is the heat issue again as they are either 500 or 1000W each, two of those and you have the equivilent of a bar heater :rolleyes:

[weka2000]

Why would you sell this ?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Camera-accessories/Lenses/Canon/auction-67221864.htm

[dgcorner]

A big THANK YOU!!! to Pete for lending me the 70-200 for last night's mathex competition. Thank you also to Duncan for his 16-35

Now the problem is I know how good the damned lenses are...:( :rolleyes: Such a dilema...

Here are a couple from last night:

Shot with Duncan's 16-35. There were some 30 schools from Auckland. Some had two teams per school.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f236/dgcorner/GKPE/Mathex0806ASB.jpg

Shot with Pete's 70-200. My son's team in the centre. I'm glad he got his mom's brains:lol:

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f236/dgcorner/GKPE/Mathex0806ASB2.jpg

[IainB]

Yep you are right, I knew there was a 5 in there somewhere :rolleyes:

What really sucks about that whole thing is it is GST on the amount you are billed, so you pay GST on postage as well :evil: Well I had to last time I got hit anyway.

Don't forget the customs 'clearance/handling/let's-rip-em-off' fee plus GST - another $20-30, and they calculate the NZ value of the goods for GST purposes, at a real miserable exchange rate and often estimate a higher shipping cost than you may have paid. Warranty is international so no probs there. I had my nifty (ex B&H) seen to by Canon here at no charge.

[dgcorner]

Tony: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Camera-accessories/Lenses/Canon/auction-66479731.htm

[weka2000]

Tony: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Camera-accessories/Lenses/Canon/auction-66479731.htm
Just a little better than my 50-500 on my 5D. Wasnt that fussed with push and pull.

Im trying to keep all my glass under F4 :lol:

At this rate Im about to go buy a 30D and glue the bigma on to it and be done with the telephoto lens

[Wazza]

Cool now worrries, I'll be in Taranaki over the weekend so couldn't organize anything until early next week anyway.

Yeah pretty much, North Shore, Hibiscus Coast and Warkworth areas.

Are you interested in delving into the property photography market?:cool:

The guy's emailed me 30min back, said will be making contact with you.

Hope you can work something out.

I've been interested in architecture etc.
I do graphics and design technology wood both at school (Avondale College), and came tops in both in around 5/6th form.. Guess the visual aspect and design has helped me with a photographers eye for detail.

I'm off out shortly to shoot some native bush/tui's/Piha sunset perhaops if the clouds clear.

Have a good weekend in Taranaki

[NordieBoy]

Don't you hate couriers?
He lives 200m away from me and I can see his van in the drive.
He has morning tea at home and then delivers the lens :rolleyes:
Off to find a duck...

[weka2000]

Don't you hate couriers?
He lives 200m away from me and I can see his van in the drive.
He has morning tea at home and then delivers the lens :rolleyes:
Off to find a duck...

I hope you are happy with the lens. Now I hve to wait and save for a F2.8 model and Auckland camera has one on the shelf but I dont want to eat rice for the next month :(

[joeseph]

Has anyone here done any work with continuous lighting?
Any thoughts or ideas?
As you say, halogen's double as heaters - this is what 2x 500W looks like in our ceiling space while I'm putting insulation in. Mind you at $30 from bunnings it's cheap enough...
http://joebloggs.servebeer.com/potn/IMG_2612.jpg

[NordieBoy]

I hope you are happy with the lens. Now I hve to wait and save for a F2.8 model and Auckland camera has one on the shelf but I dont want to eat rice for the next month :(
It looks like the 70mm f4 quality is virtually the same across the Sigma 28-70, 70-300 and the Canon.

It's nice to know it'll take a 1.4xTC and still be sharper at 400mm than the Sigma 70-300 is at 200mm :D

And I've got to get a new monopod as the combination of my monopod, the battery grip and the tripod mount ring means it won't work :(.

Rice is good - Just garnish with a little steak and some chilli sauce.

[dgcorner]

It looks like the 70mm f4 quality is virtually the same across the Sigma 28-70, 70-300 and the Canon.

It's nice to know it'll take a 1.4xTC and still be sharper at 400mm than the Sigma 70-300 is at 200mm :D

And I've got to get a new monopod as the combination of my monopod, the battery grip and the tripod mount ring means it won't work :(.

Rice is good - Just garnish with a little steak and some chilli sauce.

So... where are the pics!!!???:lol:

[weka2000]

My first model shots were done with a bunnings 500 and 150 helogen setup :lol:

Fran you would notice a hudge difference on Full Frame.
I assume it came all safe and well?

[weka2000]

Pete
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Camera-accessories/Flashes-lighting/auction-67199005.htm

I have his direct email

[NordieBoy]

So... where are the pics!!!???:lol:
200mm, 1/80th, f4, ISO200, handheld, 100% crop.

No sunlight left today :(

I think it'll handle the Karts on Sunday no problem :D

[NordieBoy]

Fran you would notice a hudge difference on Full Frame.
I assume it came all safe and well?
Nice and safe :)

Even safer with the Marumi UV filter I just got for it :D

[weka2000]

Nice and safe :)

Even safer with the Marumi UV filter I just got for it :D

Good to hear, enjoy it.

I dont put filters on my lens any more. Most have hoods. Those that dont are portrait lens.

Must see what a hood for a 50mm and 85mm are worth.

Bit under the weather with photography at the moment, must be due to the loss on trademe :( .

I dont know if the rest of you get like wanting to sell up and get a new hobby. Im still so much up in the air with what I want to photograph. To many ideas and to many choices of lens. There is always something, but now it serious money that im looking at. The tele end still bugs me. Zoom or Prime. Canon or Sigma, FF or 1.3 / 1.6 crop camera.

I guess when I owned the 20D and Bigma I had no idea. Now I know that soft photos do not impress me. I guess we all have stuff others want, and after having a play we want it more.

[rabsoft]

You guys could probably share a web connection! Its not that hard to throw out a large signal, the people at the end of my street can get mine! (Just as well that it is secure!).

I already have a wireless connection on my house so yeah would be very easy to share :) I can get a few K already on my wireless connection

[scotttnz]

As you say, halogen's double as heaters - this is what 2x 500W looks like in our ceiling space while I'm putting insulation in. Mind you at $30 from bunnings it's cheap enough...
http://joebloggs.servebeer.com/potn/IMG_2612.jpg

I wouldn't talk about having 500W halogens in you ceiling space on a public forum if I was you......



Tony, why have you decided to sell your 24-70? I thought you said it was a keeper?

[Lightchaser]

Hey anyone seen/used one of these?? Are they completely ghastly or would they do for occaisional fish-eye shots? http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Camera-accessories/Lenses/Canon/auction-67062761.htm

[Moppie]

I already have a wireless connection on my house so yeah would be very easy to share :) I can get a few K already on my wireless connection


Should reach my place :)
Next time my father is round Ill see if his PDA can get a signal :D

[weka2000]

Tony, why have you decided to sell your 24-70? I thought you said it was a keeper?

I use my 17-40 90% for lanscape. I have a 50mm F1.4 and a 85 F1.8. It dosnt get used that much. Im also fund raising for a Canon 70-200 F2.8

I used it heaps before I went to canon glass. Its sharp on both the 1.6 and FF.
Now its better off going to someone who will use it. The bigmas days are also numbered but when you are looking at $4K for a Sigma 120-300 and 1.4 TC. Then again why buy a 70-200 F2.8??? Maybe its time for a tele prime F4 say a 300 or 400mm.

I dont know and thats the problem.

[weka2000]

I wouldn't talk about having 500W halogens in you ceiling space on a public forum if I was you......


Whats that water pipe up there for :rolleyes:

[joeseph]

I wouldn't talk about having 500W halogens in you ceiling space on a public forum if I was you......
phah! at least the wiring can now handle them... (note bottom of shot = my wiring, bits on right hand side = some other installer :-) )
and no, I don't leave them plugged in when not in use - the power meter spins quite quickly as it is thanks. Maybe I should invest in a 30% electricity-saved box ;)

[joeseph]

Whats that water pipe up there for :rolleyes:
something for the borer to sleep in when it gets cold.
Actually most of the waterpipe seen in that pic now lies in a pile beside the shed. :D

[weka2000]

http://www.exifpro.com/ got this little program. My goal this weekend is to go through 10,000 photos and divide them up by lens. Then under the bigma sort by focal length. This may help give me some ideas at to the real use of this lens and what range I really use.

I need to get my wants and needs sorted out :lol:

Based on the time with the 20D half all the bigma shots were 300mm+

[FlyingPete]

As you say, halogen's double as heaters - this is what 2x 500W looks like in our ceiling space while I'm putting insulation in. Mind you at $30 from bunnings it's cheap enough...
http://joebloggs.servebeer.com/potn/IMG_2612.jpg

What was the ISO/Shutter/Aperture in that shot, that will give me an idea how useable 1000W of light is?

[FlyingPete]

Pete
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Camera-accessories/Flashes-lighting/auction-67199005.htm

I have his direct email


Yes please! I have been watching him for his stands and backdrops, would be nice to actually have a look at what he has without Trademe getting in the way ;)

[NordieBoy]

Good to hear, enjoy it.

I dont put filters on my lens any more. Most have hoods. Those that dont are portrait lens.
UV filters only when there's a chance of flying debris :D

ND4 & CirPol when needed of course.

Hmmm... A 67 to 77mm step up ring would let me use my 77mm CirPol and ND4...

[joeseph]

What was the ISO/Shutter/Aperture in that shot, that will give me an idea how useable 1000W of light is?
shutter 1/15
aperture F/4.5
ISO-800
taken @16mm

[FlyingPete]

shutter 1/15
aperture F/4.5
ISO-800
taken @16mm

Ah so I need 4000w of light and a f/2.8 lens :rolleyes:

[NordieBoy]

Based on the time with the 20D half all the bigma shots were 300mm+
That's what I did with my 70-300 and the majority were 70-210 or so.
Now to look for a decent cheap 1.4xTC.

May try some soccer shots tomorrow to compare with the ones I've taken with the Sigma.

[weka2000]

Right been through all my bigma 20D photos. That is 1 hell of a sharp lens and versitile so off tommorow to buy a 30D and 1 tonne glue :rolleyes:
Hey its also got 5fps...

[rabsoft]

Right been through all my bigma 20D photos. That is 1 hell of a sharp lens and versitile so off tommorow to buy a 30D and 1 tonne glue :rolleyes:
Hey its also got 5fps...

Good on ya join the club :)

[weka2000]

Good on ya join the club :)

hey I will get the best of both worlds Full frame and 1.6.
I aslo get a back up body, same batterys and the controls are all the same.

(side note could get Sandra keen on photography with a second body)

Will sleep on this desision

[FlyingPete]

hey I will get the best of both worlds Full frame and 1.6

But a 1.6 crop of a 5D image is the same as a 20D/30D/350D???

[weka2000]

But a 1.6 crop of a 5D image is the same as a 20D/30D/350D???

Ok thats fine and I agree. So that leaves me to crop every photo I take with the bigma. Is the a CS2 script that I can create?

Um thinking about it that is a very good point :o

[tim]

But a 1.6 crop of a 5D image is the same as a 20D/30D/350D???

Not quite - a 20D has more pixels in the size than a cropped 5D sensor. Or so i've read.

[weka2000]

Not quite - a 20D has more pixels in the size than a cropped 5D sensor. Or so i've read.

Tim read the same thing.

Umm going to have to give this Bigma issue more thought.

Down side to keeping the bigma on the 5D and cropping to a 1.6 is I frame my photos not ever expecting to crop. I crop very few photos. I try to "fill the frame"
So when I compose that could cause an issue.

Umm back to the Sigma 120-300 option @ $4K :)

[tag141]

Come to the dark side Luke... 1.3 ;) !!!

[tim]

The NZ dollar is up US$0.64, now is a good time to buy stuff from B&H guys!

[tim]

Funny thread to read on a boring day at work

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=197076

[MattL]

No worries, I have used them for product shooting and they did work well, but no where near grunty enough for portrait work. Did think of using theatre lights, can get Par Cans cheap, but then there is the heat issue again as they are either 500 or 1000W each, two of those and you have the equivilent of a bar heater :rolleyes:

Here is something I can help you with... Continious lighting is my job! Film, TV, theatre, rock. We use it.
We've got about 400 parcans at work here, so If somebody wanted to do a test I could probably bring a couple home for a night. The difference you will get from the bunnings halogens is that a par will spit the light in one place in a nice little blob, rather than lighting everything in sight, so it gets significantly brighter.

If you point 2 par64's at someone from 3 meters, they will :
a) not be able to open their eyes fully,
B) only be able to take the heat for about a minute (gets very warm very quickly, even from 10 meters away you will feel the warmth.
C) you will be able to get f4 iso 100 1/125 ish.

If you spread the same amount of light over a larger area (full body) your milage may very.

If you are serious about going into this, which I would suggest may be a good idea if you want some studio like shots of your daughter, I would suggest going with what I use most of the time for TV.

a 2kw light known as a blonde (http://www.dvt.co.nz/index.php/ps_pagename/productdetail/pi_productid/357)

A nice big chimera softbox*(http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=257350&is=REG&addedTroughType=search)

a TL singlefade to control the brightness and switch the thing on and off safely. (http://www.theatrelight.co.nz/twinglefade.htm)
You'll need to find a stand for it all, and a sandbag on the bottom of the sand to stop the thing tipping over.

The joy of the dimmer (singlefade) is that it makes it easy to turn the thing off while you try and work out that next pose, etc, so you cut down on the heat even more.


softboxes for continuous lighting are different from those used with strobes as they have to account for a much larger amount of heat! The chimeras are good, best quality units that do wonders for keeping the heat away from the talent ( or your daughter, in this case)

Hope some of this will be of help!

[MattL]

Oh the other thing I forgot to say was that all that gear i suggest in my last post can by hired locally, so you could try it out before you buy.

Matt

[tim]

Or just buy some used vivitar shoe mount flashes from ebay, get some optical slaves and AA batteries, and you have mini manual portable studio setup. I can still get AlienBee units too, they only ship to existing customers internationally not new customers. Plus B&H has some strobes that are good quality and good value - the FAQ I wrote in the lighting forum tells you what they are.

[MattL]

Sorry Tim - he cant use strobes because of his daughter... he was asking for info on continious lighting... What do you suggest?

[tim]

Sorry Tim - he cant use strobes because of his daughter... he was asking for info on continious lighting... What do you suggest?

Didn't see that bit. I don't know anything about constant lighting, except what I buy at the supermarket.

[Sweedishcarrot01]

Something a little/allot off topic, perhaps it will generate some discussion, perhaps it won't.
Who slightly underexposes, who slightly overexposes, who goes bang in the middle?
Who doesn't give a crap and thinks this was a waste of a post?

[forsaken]

Something a little/allot off topic, perhaps it will generate some discussion, perhaps it won't.
Who slightly underexposes, who slightly overexposes, who goes bang in the middle?
Who doesn't give a crap and thinks this was a waste of a post?

depends on what I am shooting. Somethings come out better underexposed some over exposed so I just play around and find out what works best in that certian situation.

[scotttnz]

Something a little/allot off topic, perhaps it will generate some discussion, perhaps it won't.
Who slightly underexposes, who slightly overexposes, who goes bang in the middle?
Who doesn't give a crap and thinks this was a waste of a post?

I am wondering who thinks this is important at 1:12am??????

I usually go for the middle, check my histogram and adjust from there (when I remember that is!)

[weka2000]

Come to the dark side Luke... 1.3 ;) !!!

Yeh that would be me. ;)

[FlyingPete]

Oh the other thing I forgot to say was that all that gear i suggest in my last post can by hired locally, so you could try it out before you buy.

Matt

After I posted I remembered that you did that stuff, so hoped your would reply!

Hmmm par cans may be cheap and readily available but it doesn't sound like they are that practical, what is the typical spread of their beam, i.e. how far do you need to place them to cover the full area of someone for a portrait?

Checking out the other links now...

[FlyingPete]

Down side to keeping the bigma on the 5D and cropping to a 1.6 is I frame my photos not ever expecting to crop. I crop very few photos. I try to "fill the frame"
So when I compose that could cause an issue.


Didn't think of the framing issue, that would be a pain.

[weka2000]

Didn't think of the framing issue, that would be a pain.

Tag may have the best answer a compromise :rolleyes:

[NordieBoy]

hey I will get the best of both worlds Full frame and 1.6.
I aslo get a back up body, same batterys and the controls are all the same.

(side note could get Sandra keen on photography with a second body)

Will sleep on this desision

Just don't glue Bigma on if Sandra's going to use it :D

[weka2000]

Well Im going to have a look at a Canon 100mm Macro F2.8

I have always wanted to have a play with macro so while Im so dam undecided and with Spring on the way.

I think my flue is comming back with a vengence :(

[dgcorner]

Well Im going to have a look at a Canon 100mm Macro F2.8

I have always wanted to have a play with macro so while Im so dam undecided and with Spring on the way.

I think my flue is comming back with a vengence :(

If and when you decide you are sick of macro -- I'm first in line if you decide to sell!:lol:

The flu 2nd time around can really be nasty -- take it on the chin and get real rest... It is a pain but your body will thank you for it!

[Sweedishcarrot01]

post count post

[MattL]

After I posted I remembered that you did that stuff, so hoped your would reply!

Hmmm par cans may be cheap and readily available but it doesn't sound like they are that practical, what is the typical spread of their beam, i.e. how far do you need to place them to cover the full area of someone for a portrait?

Checking out the other links now...

Pars come in a varierty of shapes and sizes (well not really but..)
Par 56's are 300w, par64's are 1000w.

the par 64's come in different beamshapes : (they are not round but a slightly rectangular shape)

CP60 ( very narrow spot, vnsp ) is about 9°x12°
CP61 (narrow spot, nsp) about 10°x14°
CP62 (medium flood, MFL) about 11°x24°

so you can work out the coverage you get based on the distance and beam angle.

[tim]

Something a little/allot off topic, perhaps it will generate some discussion, perhaps it won't.
Who slightly underexposes, who slightly overexposes, who goes bang in the middle?
Who doesn't give a crap and thinks this was a waste of a post?

I usually get close to a good exposure, but I usually change it in camera raw anyway. Brightness mainly. Brightness shifts the middle of the histogram to the right, but leaves th endpoints the same. I get my best exposures on manual using a hand held light meter and watching the histogram.

post count post

If a mod see that and they're in a bad mood they can reset your post count to zero. Post count is irrelevant anyway, better to say little and have it meaning full than say a lot with no meaning.

[weka2000]

If and when you decide you are sick of macro -- I'm first in line if you decide to sell!:lol:

The flu 2nd time around can really be nasty -- take it on the chin and get real rest... It is a pain but your body will thank you for it!

Well came out of Auckland Camera with my hands full and a young lady with her hands full, she had to help me carry it all to the boot of the car..:lol:

1x Canon 100mmF2.8 macro
1x Hudge 4in1 round reflector
1X refelctor holder and stand

Ah I love spending money

The macro is a keeper. Heck the flash units for them are not cheap :(

[tim]

Dude, you must have tiny hands! A reflector holder would be handy, how about a pic and what'd it cost?

[weka2000]

Dude, you must have tiny hands! A reflector holder would be handy, how about a pic and what'd it cost?

5D and bigma 1 hand and 100mm macro in the other.

I have medium hands, soft and a slow touch :lol:

Reflector and holder with stand are as much for macro as portrait and the lens is the same. $278 for stand, holder and 42" 5in 1 reflector
will post pic soon

[DiscoLizard]

Went to AC today to get that hotshoe > pc-sync adaptor, Emma told me I might wind up blowing up my camera.... So I bought a memory card and some other little bits instead...

Apparently I should wait and spend more on an adaptor with a fuse? (They don't have any in stock atm)

[OiPaz]

By chance, have you noticed if they have a 16-35L on the shelf ready for some test shot? Sometimes in the near future I'd like to try it in my hands! ;)
BTW, now I live much closer to AC than two weeks ago: I moved to Hillcrest, North Shore!

[DiscoLizard]

Sorry mate, didn't notice :(

I noticed the Hasselblads :D

There was a eos 1 there (non digital) second hand for $400 that Liz got pretty interested in...

[Moppie]

Emma told me I might wind up blowing up my camera....


She told me a few horror stories about people removing and attaching flashs units that were turned on, and blowing up cameras and the flash.

[scotttnz]

She told me a few horror stories about people removing and attaching flashs units that were turned on, and blowing up cameras and the flash.

I suspect it is a bit like unplugging a ps2 keyboard on a computer. Can fry your motherboard, but doesn't actuaaly happen much. Still turning it off is probably a good habit to get into.

[weka2000]

Didnt notice any 16-35mm, mind you I stayed away from the canon cabnet I rang first and asked them to put my lens aside so no one else would buy it.

Well macro time. Canon 100mm take 58mm filters umm my 3 close up filters will work as well. Also my kenko 2XTC works on it with autofocus. I will now beable to use my angle C finder with the 2.5 x magnification.

Macro and focus is hard, a bit of wind and its all over.

Went to the zoo to test bigma again. Here are a couple of photos

[tim]

She told me a few horror stories about people removing and attaching flashs units that were turned on, and blowing up cameras and the flash.

Never had a problem myself, I sometimes forget to turn anything off, flashes and cameras. Although left camera on during trip to aus, even with self powerdown timer I must have bumped a button because my two full charged batteries in a grip gave me a total of 2 photos. Luckily I wasn't going anywhere interesting, just Sydney.

[Sweedishcarrot01]

Tim, did you get to choose Advocatus Diaboli or was it just given to you at 15,000

[weka2000]

Im looking at going to the winter gardens tommorow afternoon. Any one else keen.

Im also in the process of making up a flash system for macro using my 580ex (when it comes back) so busy going through the macros section :lol:

Well I think im covered now with the under 100mm range.

Still undesided how Im going to deal with the tele end but looks like it will be the Sigma 120-300, thus holding off on the 70-200F2.8

I will need a shoulder bag for all my gear AC didnt have any thing big enough today...now thats a worry.

[OiPaz]

Im looking at going to the winter gardens tommorow afternoon.
Who knows, maybe if weather is good (or better than today, anyway) we could go there as well; it is the botanic garden near the War Memorial Museum, isnt'it?

[dgcorner]

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Tony -- that 2nd pic really cracks me up ;-)

[weka2000]

Who knows, maybe if weather is good (or better than today, anyway) we could go there as well; it is the botanic garden near the War Memorial Museum, isnt'it?

Yep, its perfect for rainy days as well. Its all covered. Its like im doing a complete circle. It was about this time a year ago I brought my first DSLR. Ah my 20D a kit lens and 55-200mm. I had upgraded from a Sony F828.

DSLR is great really cheap, havnt spent much in a year on it :rolleyes:

[scotttnz]

Im looking at going to the winter gardens tommorow afternoon. Any one else keen.

Im also in the process of making up a flash system for macro using my 580ex (when it comes back) so busy going through the macros section :lol:

Well I think im covered now with the under 100mm range.

Still undesided how Im going to deal with the tele end but looks like it will be the Sigma 120-300, thus holding off on the 70-200F2.8

I will need a shoulder bag for all my gear AC didnt have any thing big enough today...now thats a worry.

Let me know what time you are going, and I will try and make it, and bring your flash back to you. (Pete is happily using Moppies 550EX)

[weka2000]

I am aiming about 3-3.30 as Sandras on night duty tonight :cry:

Will spend tonight searching Pbase and photo.net for macro photography and try to get some ideas.

So far it reminds me of making model aircraft....slowely slowely

[OiPaz]

I am aiming about 3-3.30
OK. If we come I'll be the other guy with a 100/2.8 Macro mounted on a Canon camera! :D
Changing the subject: I see that you live in Mangere, and I remember you work in a College. Is it Alfriston? In that case, is it a good school?
There is a vacancy advertized on the gazette, but I don't know whether I'll apply as there are some odd requirements about referees that probably I am not able to fulfil.

[tim]

Tim, did you get to choose Advocatus Diaboli or was it just given to you at 15,000

I chose it :evil:

[Sweedishcarrot01]

Weka, do you have a 50-500 that you want to sell... don't get excited, it's just a question

[Sweedishcarrot01]

I chose it :evil:

so what does it mean?

[joeseph]

I've started the Crowded challenge with a bang, or five...
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=1870962&postcount=4