GKPE: General Ramblings thread

[weka2000]

you have brown arms Tony... :-)

Maybe you would be best to explain what you meant

[dgcorner]

Just how long have you been waiting, and have you asked them? I find IRD to be pretty quick with returning money, as they otherwise may need to pay you interest!

Iain, apparently, they take up to 8 weeks to refund your PAYE over-payment...:confused:

John, do you still want to borrow my 10-20 & 70-200?

Hi Scott! The 70-200 yes, and when convenient only. As for the 10-20 I've been thinking that my lens purchases need to be long term since I am going FF one of these days, but not anytime in the next year or two...

I've identified either the 17-40 or 16-35 (but this is too expensive...:cry: ) However, I rarely shot below f4 with Duncan's 16-35 so the 17-40 should be it.

Thanks!

[scotttnz]

Hi Scott! The 70-200 yes, and when convenient only. As for the 10-20 I've been thinking that my lens purchases need to be long term since I am going FF one of these days, but not anytime in the next year or two...

I've identified either the 17-40 or 16-35 (but this is too expensive... ) However, I rarely shot below f4 with Duncan's 16-35 so the 17-40 should be it.


That is why I think I am going to get the 17-40 to replace my kit lens. In a couple of years time when I replace my 350D I will probably want to go FF. Then the 17-40 will become my wide angle, replacing the 10-20.

[dgcorner]

That is why I think I am going to get the 17-40 to replace my kit lens. In a couple of years time when I replace my 350D I will probably want to go FF. Then the 17-40 will become my wide angle, replacing the 10-20.

Using Duncan's 16-35 made me realise that it is the "perfect" indoor lens for me, or at least for the way I shoot, e.g., group pics, which necessitates a minimum of f4-8 to give it a proper DOF. The 17-40 has received such high praises and it is the logical choice if you don't shoot below f/4.

[tim]

Iain, apparently, they take up to 8 weeks to refund your PAYE over-payment...:confused:

Sounds about right, mine took a couple of months.

[Sweedishcarrot01]

this sort of thing...
http://joebloggs.servebeer.com/potn/img_9815-800.jpg

you mean because of f2.8?

[joeseph]

you mean because of f2.8?
yeah, museums can have really dingy bits with near-darkness. Being able to zoom was a requirement as changing lenses for each shot wasn't practical (no primes...)
Flash didn't enter into the equation as they won't let you, nor is the tripod option possible. If the ef-s 17-55 had been avail at the time I might have considered it too, but then I had a D60 at the time so getting into square pegs in round holes there.
Actually from memory, the NZ dollar was around 74c US so it was a great time to get stuff overseas (I bought it from a place in Singapore) I'll have a look though some more shots and send you the links if you're interested.

Maybe you would be best to explain what you meant
One gets brown arms from $#*t-stirring. ;)

[Wazza]

I thought you got brown arms from taking so much waterfall photography in the muddy terrain?

The wedding is for Kirst's sister... Our wedding will be a bit more extravagant.. And will give you guys enough notice to save up for a few L lens. ;)

[IainB]

Sounds about right, mine took a couple of months.
I suspect that having a tax agent must get a quicker response from IRD. i.e quicker refund but at a cost!:confused:

[Moppie]

Iv always thought tax agents worked out they could save you $10,000 and then charged you $11,000 to do so?

[tim]

I have an accountant, they file the tax return then it gets processed by IRD in the usual order AFAIK.

[weka2000]

I thought you got brown arms from taking so much waterfall photography in the muddy terrain?

The wedding is for Kirst's sister... Our wedding will be a bit more extravagant.. And will give you guys enough notice to save up for a few L lens. ;)

My brown arms come from the sun.

[TKRFAN]

Next weekend down to Manfeild racetrack for some more drifting!

Hmmmmm...... was thinking of heading over to the track to have an attempt at drifting shots (my attempts from Oran Park will be in the 'other' section of the gallery when I finally get it online), but I am guessing that unless you have your credentials the only place to shoot from is the grandstand :(

Mind you, if the weather is like yesterday or today I will be quite happy staying at home :lol:

[weka2000]

Here you go WA shooters a compromise between the 16-35 F2.8 and 17-40 F4

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Camera-accessories/Lenses/Canon/auction-67669151.htm

NB it is softer than the 16-35.

[dgcorner]

Here you go WA shooters a compromise between the 16-35 F2.8 and 17-40 F4

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Camera-accessories/Lenses/Canon/auction-67669151.htm

NB it is softer than the 16-35.

Yep, there's a mixed bag of reviews for this particular one -- some being very good, whilst others being so-so. I still sent the guy a note to ask how the IQ was, and why the shift to an almost identical lens.

[CliveyBoy]

Our wedding will be a bit more extravagant.. And will give you guys enough notice to save up for a few L lens. ;)

Dream on...

And I would rather wish you both a long and successful marriage than an extravagant wedding. I suspect there is an inverse relationship!

[FlyingPete]

I thought you got brown arms from taking so much waterfall photography in the muddy terrain?

The wedding is for Kirst's sister... Our wedding will be a bit more extravagant.. And will give you guys enough notice to save up for a few L lens. ;)

Mariana?

[DiscoLizard]

Has anyone tried one of these;
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Film-cameras/35mm-zoom/auction-66884906.htm
?

[weka2000]

Has anyone tried one of these;
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Film-cameras/35mm-zoom/auction-66884906.htm
?

Reviews are it is sharper than the newer 24-70 F2.8. This is the older version.

Ask him for the serial Number and we can tell you how old it is

[DiscoLizard]

Ya beat me to it :)

I can't find reviews for it anywhere :(

A fair bit more expensive than the Sigma we were talking about Tony.

[weka2000]

Ya beat me to it :)

Looks like a pretty nice lens to me... What do you reckon?

Be alright as a walk around lens, portrait and low light.
I would buy that over a 17-35 F2.8 based on reviews.

Its 11yrs old

[DiscoLizard]

It would fit nicely between my Sigma and 70-200....

Must.. not.. spend.. money... :mad:

[Wazza]

Yes, Pete.. her wedding is 1st Jan on the Coral coast..

That's why I'm looking at underwater proofing bags...

[Wazza]

Tracey, you may still be able to get into D1...

If you're willing to give away your shots for free, and take a few odd shots. I was meant to be organising who's going , and where.. I keep suggesting I go furthest, or down to the end looking along, as I have the strongest lens in the power of my Sigma 120-300

forsaken and his partner will be there, as is rendezvous, my mate from Palmerston North.

If you're keen on going in, let me know and I'll see if I can get one more cred..
May need someone for some pit shots, different angles.

matt@d1nz.com and brent@d1nz.com may be able to help you out.

Not my decision unfortunately. They just don't want 5 photographers all shooting from same location giving the same shots.

[tim]

Unfortunately i'm busy Sat evening otherwise i'd come up to visit :(

[joeseph]

Duncan, why did you buy the 16 and not the 17?
have had a look thru for decent 2.8 pix, here's the link (can't be bothered with thumbnails today...)
http://joebloggs.servebeer.com/potn/16-35/

[weka2000]

Well went for a walk with my 50mm will post pics latter. Im in such a fowl mood and the weather didnt help.

Just so uncertian what to get. I know a 70-200 F2.8 is a must. But I have options like 300 F4 prime 400F5.6 prime second hand 300F2.8 prime.
Just so uncertin about primes.

The best option is looking like the 300mm F2.8 and canon 1.4 x tc and 2 x tc. Just a lot of money $5.5K so I cant afford to get it wrong

There is still the 30D + Bigma option

[Wazza]

Why would you want to spend even more than a Sigma 120-300?
It's ALMOST as sharp, and offers a lot more versatility for being able to compose shots better. Guess if you want a 300/420/600mm lens, that's ok.. However I like to have 120-600mm flexibility.

[dgcorner]

Well went for a walk with my 50mm will post pics latter. Im in such a fowl mood and the weather didnt help.

Just so uncertian what to get. I know a 70-200 F2.8 is a must. But I have options like 300 F4 prime 400F5.6 prime second hand 300F2.8 prime.
Just so uncertin about primes.

The best option is looking like the 300mm F2.8 and canon 1.4 x tc and 2 x tc. Just a lot of money $5.5K so I cant afford to get it wrong

There is still the 30D + Bigma option

Worse case scenario is that you can always sell it to us first... then TradeMe:lol:

[CliveyBoy]

That's why I'm looking at underwater proofing bags...

I'm not sure what you want these for. For protection from the elements, while NOT shooting, Sue put me onto Kayakers' standard bags:

Sea to Summit Ultra-Sil Dry Sack. I bought a 13-litre one and found it great in squalls and spray on the Kawau Cat, and in forest rain. Weighs only 40g; round base 53x31cm. Mine from ChCh via TradeMe. Outdoor Action on North Shore stock them.

Not for immersion.

[weka2000]

Why would you want to spend even more than a Sigma 120-300?
It's ALMOST as sharp, and offers a lot more versatility for being able to compose shots better. Guess if you want a 300/420/600mm lens, that's ok.. However I like to have 120-600mm flexibility.

I would rather have the 70-200 as its lighter than the sigma 120-300. IQ the 70-200 would be sharper and I gain the 70-120 range.

I want something sharp within a tele. Remeber I shot objects that dont move as fast as you. The zoo birds landscape etc.

Plus I can have this weekend early next week. Glam cant even tell me when the Sigma 120-300 will be avaiable :(

[dgcorner]

Have a look at this (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Camera-accessories/Lenses/Other/auction-67672699.htm) - interesting concept -- 360 deg. panorama in 1 shot...

[TKRFAN]

Tracey, you may still be able to get into D1...

If you're willing to give away your shots for free, and take a few odd shots. I was meant to be organising who's going , and where.. I keep suggesting I go furthest, or down to the end looking along, as I have the strongest lens in the power of my Sigma 120-300

forsaken and his partner will be there, as is rendezvous, my mate from Palmerston North.

If you're keen on going in, let me know and I'll see if I can get one more cred..
May need someone for some pit shots, different angles.

matt@d1nz.com and brent@d1nz.com may be able to help you out.

Not my decision unfortunately. They just don't want 5 photographers all shooting from same location giving the same shots.

Hi Warren

Thanks for that :) I have just uploaded my Oran Park pictures finally - I still have a LOT to learn, but am slowly getting there....

http://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1883217#post1883217

I did take a few photos of the drift cars demonstrating at Oran Park - but was tricky taking shots under peoples clapping hands as the cars went by :lol:

They are on my website under the 'other' section of Oran Park

[weka2000]

Well here you go from to day a flower and a fish.
Oh the fish got no PP or cropping

[weka2000]

Oh wazza there was a computer saying...

You are allowed fast, good and cheap, but you can only pick 2.

I have been in the good and cheap, now Im going for fast and good :lol:

[theflyingkiwi]

well I have been hanging out, waiting for something interesting to say, which I still haven't found anything yet. but I will let ya know.

anyway thinking that the numbers keep growing and the talk of a card being used I deceided to do one up. It's for aucklanders only

http://www.cuthbert.net.nz/potn/gkpe.gif

I would more then likey upset a few people and my humour may not come across very well. but alas I'm not worried :)

[joeseph]

I would more then likey upset a few people and my humour may not come across very well. but alas I'm not worried :)
Not sure who 'ya hoping to upset but I found this priceless. Quick - PM the MODS to check it's okay to use the logo & off to the printers pronto!:lol:

[FlyingPete]

well I have been hanging out, waiting for something interesting to say, which I still haven't found anything yet. but I will let ya know.

anyway thinking that the numbers keep growing and the talk of a card being used I deceided to do one up. It's for aucklanders only

I would more then likey upset a few people and my humour may not come across very well. but alas I'm not worried :)

I love it I will take 100!

[weka2000]

Hey who is the one person who cant make up their mind on the next lens....I know a few of us.

Love it.

Good to see your still alive :lol:

[theflyingkiwi]

dam I should have put my logo on the card :)

I had thought that one or two might not like the dig, but who knew :cool:

[weka2000]

We are all laid back up here.....try harder :lol:

[FlyingPete]

dam I should have put my logo on the card :)

I had thought that one or two might not like the dig, but who knew :cool:

I'm not a native Aucklander ;) I am from even further south than any one around here, including NordieBoy!

[weka2000]

I'm not a native Aucklander ;) I am from even further south than any one around here, including NordieBoy!

Me neither Im from the Bay of Plenty

[theflyingkiwi]

We are all laid back up here.....try harder :lol:

i could, but as soon as I start thinking, it just goes down hill from there :)

[tim]

Mark - last sentence doesn't make sense to me. But i've had a half dozen bourbons, so it might be me.

Lots of gear heads in this thread. It's true you need decent gear to get the images, but gear obsession is rampant here.

[MattL]

Tim, I think you missed the bit on the card where it said something about a bunch of auckland snobs....

[tim]

Drunken comment removed.

[scotttnz]

I think it should say "a bunch of Auckland camera geeks who want to be photographers", judging by this thread. Obviously that doesn't apply to everyone, but there's a lot of lens envy here.

I admit to being a gear head but enjoy using the gear and the results as much as the gear itself. I don't think there is anything wrong with that. Photography is a hobby, that I do for enjoyment, and collecting or lusting over gear is part of what I enjoy.

I think we could all lighten up a bit. If certain people want to spend all their money on lots of expensive lenses, so what? Personally I am a bit jelaous!

[weka2000]

I think we could all lighten up a bit. If certain people want to spend all their money on lots of expensive lenses, so what? Personally I am a bit jelaous!

Yeh I agree. For we all know they could be living in a real cheap part of town, drive a crappy car and walk to work in the cold and rain.

Let me say this, we all spend the same amount of money. Some on flash cars, some on flash homes. We all envy something.

As a group of auckland photographers I have never come a cross a bunch of people who are so generous with their gear. People need something and all of a sudden you have offers to help you out.

Tim maybe it is time you moved up to Auckland and enjoyed what we have :)

[FlyingPete]

As a group of auckland photographers I have never come a cross a bunch of people who are so generous with their gear. People need something and all of a sudden you have offers to help you out.

Well said :)

[Wazza]

Just remember these forums aren't even allowed to use the logo.. And even use the Red, and same font. We're different. Such as the POTN neck straps.. It's not a Canon logo, just simple plain text. You'd think a big company won't mind, when we generate a large percentage of buys just buy people googling Canon gear.

[MHP]

"We all envy something"- Weka

wise words- so true!

[MHP]

"We're different"- Wazza

I like being different.

[dgcorner]

Tim, I don't mind being around "a bunch of Auckland camera geeks who want to be photographers" -- they (including those of you not from Auckland) have kept me sane during these past 14 months, are the one of the most generous bunch of people that I've met in my entire life, and I would be hard pressed to find a finer bunch of people elsewhere in the world.

Just because you have your fancy gear doesn't mean people can't aspire or dream to have them one of these days. And just because you are an up-and-coming famous wedding photographer doesn't mean we cannot aspire to be as good, or better than you... even if we don't make money from our gear.

Envy and aspiration are two different things -- one is destructive, the other constructive.

'nuff said.

[OiPaz]

Well here you go from to day a flower and a fish.
Oh the fish got no PP or cropping
Nice fish! Who is the sculptor?

[tim]

My gear isn't that fancy. My apologies for my comment, I was out last night and had quite a few bourbons.

Is anyone going to shoot the parade today?

[joeseph]

It does feel a bit nippy today..

[Moppie]

It does feel a bit nippy today..

You might have to go out for a walk at lunch time, get a lung full of freash air ;)

[Wazza]

I start work at 12:30, and it doesn't interest me one bit. Maybe shooting stunned crowd shots?

Tim? Drunk? I don't think those two words ever belong apart. :lol:

[weka2000]

Nice fish! Who is the sculptor?

No idea just saw it and it looked cool.

So all the lads are going to have a titalating lunch break. Make sure you dont get on the news or you wives may see you :rolleyes:

Oh just brought a Canon 70-200 F2.8 for $1900 still working out the 300mm price $4500 is a bit steep . I did speak to auckland camera re the 400 F2.8. @ $4000 it I would be locked to a tripod mind you 800mm at F5.6 :lol:

[DiscoLizard]

Congrats on the new purchase Tony, wish I could offer some advice on the primes... Tim, I finally got some shots with the 30mm - went bowling last night, I'll post some up when I get a chance to download them.

The parade interests me :oops: :D

I was going to suggest that if anyone is coming into the city to see it, we could grab lunch somewhere, but unfortunately I've got meetings to go to :(

[weka2000]

My gear isn't that fancy. My apologies for my comment, I was out last night and had quite a few bourbons.


I dont think anyone took offence, I didnt.

[Wazza]

Kirst has now left my side..

I have alarm guys around at my house, replacing our alarm box and keypads.. $755... :o

I have to leave for work at about 11:50 at the latest, and have a feeling they may not be done in time.

[DiscoLizard]

Ouch... what happened for them to need replacing?

Pulling a sickie today will translate to boss-speak as "I'm going to the parade"

[rabsoft]

Work had to put me on a Cisco course this week so missed out on TechEd and the lunchtime entertainment :(

[rabsoft]

Congrats on the new purchase Tony, wish I could offer some advice on the primes... Tim, I finally got some shots with the 30mm - went bowling last night, I'll post some up when I get a chance to download them.

The parade interests me :oops: :D

I was going to suggest that if anyone is coming into the city to see it, we could grab lunch somewhere, but unfortunately I've got meetings to go to :(

What was the 30mm lens like, would it be good for portrait work ?? and what is the cost ??

[DiscoLizard]

Great fun to shoot with... Can't wait to check out the photos :D

I can't really comment on the portait side of things, until I do a few more with it, but I bought it to be able to do environmental portraits when travelling.

Prices have just gone up, I believe Graham can sell them for around $750, but don't quote me on that.

[rabsoft]

Great fun to shoot with... Can't wait to check out the photos :D

I can't really comment on the portait side of things, until I do a few more with it, but I bought it to be able to do environmental portraits when travelling.

Prices have just gone up, I believe Graham can sell them for around $750, but don't quote me on that.

Where abouts in town do you work, I am normaly in nelson st in the bunker, might be an idea for all the GKPE people in town to get together one lunchtime

If you don't mind would like to borrow the lens for a couple of days to have a play, not sure what lens'es I want so need to have a play

[theflyingkiwi]

well it seemed the words were getting a tad personal there. it's good to see everyone kissed and made up :)

A friend did tell me once, he thought that when someone was drunk their ture natures come out when drinking. hmm I wonder what that means since I don't drink ?

don't ya just it when a moment comes up when a camera would have been useful. in the building next to where I work, had a bomb scare. The police removed everyone out of my building, Fonterra building and the block that they sit on. I could have got in the newspaper, if only they told me in advanced :lol:

Ohh well

[weka2000]

Hey I better see some good photos in the glamour section from all you lunch time motor bike enthuasits.

[joeseph]

Work had to put me on a Cisco course this week so missed out on TechEd and the lunchtime entertainment :(
which one? we just hav'ta study using books & stuff.

[rabsoft]

which one? we just hav'ta study using books & stuff.

ICND it is the second part so after the end of the course on friday I should be able to sit my CCNA in the next couple of weeks :)

[joeseph]

ICND it is the second part so after the end of the course on friday I should be able to sit my CCNA in the next couple of weeks :)
I've been re-re-studying 640-801 this last week. Let me know if you need a Testking exam-question .pdf file...

[joeseph]

Oh just brought a Canon 70-200 F2.8
Well done Tony! look forward to seeing the results... :)

[FlyingPete]

Kirst has now left my side..

I have alarm guys around at my house, replacing our alarm box and keypads.. $755... :o

I have to leave for work at about 11:50 at the latest, and have a feeling they may not be done in time.

That is a rather cryptic message?

[weka2000]

Off to play with my new lens and 2xTC see how it stacks up aginst bigma.
1 lens to go..... :lol:

[Wazza]

Kirst visited this morning... Then she left.

The cost of alarm installation and new box and everything is $755...

And finally... They said 2 hours, got there 2 hours before i go to work.. and eventually still not done, but my dad trusted them enough to leave them at my home unattended.. I hope my $18K of camera gear is still in my room.

[rabsoft]

I've been re-re-studying 640-801 this last week. Let me know if you need a Testking exam-question .pdf file...

Thanks I will pm you, I have found a couple already from using a couple of tools that find stuf on the interweb, also got the boson simulator, I was going to try and buy some cisco gear but think the money could be better spent on a new lens ;)

[Wazza]

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=206911

Some motorsport to chew on..

[theflyingkiwi]

And finally... They said 2 hours, got there 2 hours before i go to work.. and eventually still not done, but my dad trusted them enough to leave them at my home unattended.. I hope my $18K of camera gear is still in my room.

Ohh I am sure your camera gear is fine. your underware on the other hand might be a different story :eek: :)

[iKirst]

Kirst visited this morning... Then she left. I'm a sales rep, as you all well know - infact I wrote a hefty post about deciding to stick with that for now, and cheeries for all the advice from all - but my internet carked it as I went to post, and I lost it. Ah-boo!
But I digress!

Until folks I call on decide I am trust worthy enough to give them informed advice on why they should use one of my 5habillionty products, my day's are hard to fill.
I visit people. I have endless coffee's. I park up at places where I have now discovered lots of reps park up to kill time. Many base model, late model cars all in a line. (I heard on the radio that kiwi sales folks are the most honest in the world, and the US sales types are utter lying bastards :lol:)

I digress again! (there really is no point to this post :razz:)

A new game I disovered today, whilst trying to find the longest route possible to one of my 6 calls a day, was to just follow a car. And follow it for as long as I can - making sure I am headed in the general direction I need to be, and wait for them to notice. I managed to follow a Jeep Cherokee from the top of the Mangere motorway, all the way to the bottom of Richardson Road (near Pt Chev).

Joy!

[weka2000]

SELLER BEWARE...:evil: Try and sell me a 1 month old Canon 70-200 and then to find out that its Dated 2000 and its is soft as anything, my bigma was sharper at 200mm.

Date Stamp UO 0412 2000/04/12 and you try to tell me this is new, this is the same guy that tryed to sell me the 1DmkII

So I told him I would be over at 7pm to pick up my money :evil:

[rabsoft]

iKirst You could have drove down queen street around lunch time you would have had a captive audience to try and sell for whatever it is you do sell :) I was stuck in a course all day, I did have internet access so wasn't as bored as it would have been :)

[iKirst]

iKirst You could have drove down queen street around lunch time you would have had a captive audience to try and sell for whatever it is you do sell :) I was stuck in a course all day, I did have internet access so wasn't as bored as it would have been :)
Hehe - I avoided the city from 11am onwards, but I do like your thinking. We do see some pretty strtong adhesives to hold things permanetly in place, and some very glossy polyurathene toppings. I can see where they would have been useful ;)

Internet access get's me in trouble at work, so I am decidedly jealous of you on that respect.

Tony - gutted. Has the seller agreed to cash back? Lucky you have the consumers act on your side.

[theflyingkiwi]

I figure no job is worth sticking around for. I got a boss that just does nothing. Tell him of a problem and he goes yea yea I will take care of it and bingo, nothing happens.

So he got pissed of when I sent an e-mail to him and his managers about someone smoking in the company car. But is it even worth it trying to do something about. Nope.

But anyway the best advice I can offer Kirst is, if you really wont to be successful in what you are doing, read a book on the subject, go to classes and do what ever it takes.

or you could just drive around all day :)

[iKirst]

I figure no job is worth sticking around for. I got a boss that just does nothing. Tell him of a problem and he goes yea yea I will take care of it and bingo, nothing happens.

So he got pissed of when I sent an e-mail to him and his managers about someone smoking in the company car. But is it even worth it trying to do something about. Nope.

But anyway the best advice I can offer Kirst is, if you really wont to be successful in what you are doing, read a book on the subject, go to classes and do what ever it takes.

or you could just drive around all day :)
Heh - I have a boss, and a business manager that just LOVE the phrase 'let's ask Kirstine' when I have a question on something I'm not quite sure on. I know they are just trying to encourage me to find out for myself, but I wouldn't have asked unless I was really struggling with something.

I have decided to stick with it for at least a year. I know they'll send me on courses when the opportunities arise, and I'll take full advantage of them. If, after a year, the job is no better, then I'll have a years repping experience under my belt. More doors may open. I've come from a project co-ordinator background, but that means nothing in the sales world.

At least I am used to driving the Falcon. And I'm glad I'm not the one paying the fuel for it.

[Sweedishcarrot01]

SELLER BEWARE...:evil: Try and sell me a 1 month old Canon 70-200 and then to find out that its Dated 2000 and its is soft as anything, my bigma was sharper at 200mm.

Date Stamp UO 0412 2000/04/12 and you try to tell me this is new, this is the same guy that tryed to sell me the 1DmkII

So I told him I would be over at 7pm to pick up my money :evil:

Don't hurt your hand when you hit him.

[scotttnz]

As a group of auckland photographers I have never come a cross a bunch of people who are so generous with their gear. People need something and all of a sudden you have offers to help you out.


are the one of the most generous bunch of people that I've met in my entire life, and I would be hard pressed to find a finer bunch of people elsewhere in the world.


I have to agree, and in my experience the person who probably gets the most comments about the amount of gear he buys (you all know I'm talking about Tony) is amoung the most generous. Thanks Tony! I hope you work out your 70-200 issue!

[Sweedishcarrot01]

aaaawwww, how sweet

[weka2000]

I compared the sharpness to my old 70-200 F4, 50mm F1.4 and 85 F1.8 and its the same. Maybe I got it wrong. However the date stamo is still 2000. 6 year old lens.

The weather wasnt the best and shooting into salt air may not have helped.
Did some tripod tests the same as a I did a few weeks abck and it is the same as the old 70-200 F4 as far as sharpness.

I have gone over the lens and it looks brand new, no scrathces marks or anything. The hood have never been used.

umm what to do.

[Sweedishcarrot01]

what do you mean what do you do? dude, you agreed to a deal that was false, don't let him get away with it... however, if your happy with the lens and think you paid a fair price then keep it...

[Sweedishcarrot01]

and one more for a post count

[theflyingkiwi]

ok I was bored again tonight and decided that the card I posted last night was a bit rough on a member on this forum.

so I have created another one, if this is less funny, or worse than the other one then please move on and just ignore the fact that I have posted it. :)

now down to it:
http://www.cuthbert.net.nz/potn/gkpe_2.gif

Just a couple of things, no harm were meant in the posting of the first card, and it was never meet to suggest that Tony had more money that sense. He knows how to use the camera to take some really nice shots. And at the end of the day that's what counts.

[scotttnz]

I compared the sharpness to my old 70-200 F4, 50mm F1.4 and 85 F1.8 and its the same. Maybe I got it wrong. However the date stamo is still 2000. 6 year old lens.

The weather wasnt the best and shooting into salt air may not have helped.
Did some tripod tests the same as a I did a few weeks abck and it is the same as the old 70-200 F4 as far as sharpness.

I have gone over the lens and it looks brand new, no scrathces marks or anything. The hood have never been used.

umm what to do.

Tony, is this the non IS?

I have heard rumours that they stopped producing this lens a while back. So it may have been in a canon store room for a while before the guy bought it.

Can he provide any reciepts?

[downunder]

I compared the sharpness to my old 70-200 F4, 50mm F1.4 and 85 F1.8 and its the same. Maybe I got it wrong. However the date stamo is still 2000. 6 year old lens.

The weather wasnt the best and shooting into salt air may not have helped.
Did some tripod tests the same as a I did a few weeks abck and it is the same as the old 70-200 F4 as far as sharpness.

I have gone over the lens and it looks brand new, no scrathces marks or anything. The hood have never been used.

umm what to do.

If you are happy with the lens then keep it but ask for a substantial reduction in price. If he sold it as one month old and its actually 6 yrs old then he his way out of order.
If you are not happy with it then insist on a refund.

[Sweedishcarrot01]

Mark, that card cracks me up, need to run a spell check though... did you get round to downloading those images, I need to free up some room on the server...

[Wazza]

Yeah a few spell checks then. Hehe.
Nice words Kirst.. Funny life you live by. At least I'm still special enough to share every other moment of it

[theflyingkiwi]

yea I got about 4 of them, did you link tony to them as well? I was looking at one of them thinking gee that's soft. Hmmm perhaps I got a bad lens. then I looked at the fact it's F32. then I downloaded the one at F11, hmmm lot shaper :)

I did have a small problem with viewing the pictures, the only app that I have got that can see them is Digital Photo Professional

I am glad I got the lens, now I just need to get the 24-70 F2.8 before I quit my job.

[weka2000]

I want to test it tommorow, and also ring canon. I paid $1900 so Im happy but when I saw the date stamp :evil: . I rung him up agin and he was fine about the refund. I went off half cocked at all the staff on Tuesday morning and told them all to get off their a$$es and keep an eye on what the kids are doing on the computers.....boss wanted to see me this morning for a wee chat :rolleyes:

He brought it new from HK....ummmm. I think if anything he wasnt aware of its age and if I didnt know about the link with how to tell how old a "L" lens is I would have been none the wiser either

Need a good night sleep maybe my eyes are playing up.

[NordieBoy]

If you are happy with the lens then keep it but ask for a substantial reduction in price. If he sold it as one month old and its actually 6 yrs old then he his way out of order.
If you are not happy with it then insist on a refund.

Keep but ask for discount.
Did he say if it was still under warranty?

[theflyingkiwi]

Yeah a few spell checks then. Hehe.

hence one of the things to check :) :lol:

I will say here, right here right now I can't spell to save myself. and it's worse when my hands are cold :eek:

[Sweedishcarrot01]

no, I didn't link them to Tony... Tony we took some pics using Marks long black lens... want the link?

[tim]

I just got two 8x12 images matted at 16x20 for the NZIPP competition - $110!!!! Is matting usually that expensive?!

[Sweedishcarrot01]

A link for Mr Warren Williams - and anyone else that likes drifting...
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=204230

[momentz]

and one more for a post count

What the heck is this all about?

[weka2000]

I have to agree, and in my experience the person who probably gets the most comments about the amount of gear he buys (you all know I'm talking about Tony) is amoung the most generous. Thanks Tony! I hope you work out your 70-200 issue!

Yeh give the weka a break about how much he spends. My Canon 70-200F2.8 was paid by selling 2 lens umm thats cant be right didnt I buy something on saterday now where did that money come from ... oh thats right the lens I sold a few days before. Ok so I spent $1200 on the 70-200 cause I sold the Sigma 24-70and that went towards it ;)

Dam its hard to keep up with all this buying and selling. I better do a count.....6

Now dont forget lads Im almost finished buying all I need and I have run out of things to upgrade. Now its time to learn how to use the camera. Turn knob off AUTO mode :lol:

[weka2000]

no, I didn't link them to Tony... Tony we took some pics using Marks long black lens... want the link?

Why not :rolleyes:

[downunder]

I just got two 8x12 images matted at 16x20 for the NZIPP competition - $110!!!! Is matting usually that expensive?!

Wow that is expensive ! I get 16 X 20 matted for $12 each ( and i thought that was expensive)

Is that for full framing as well as matting?

[Sweedishcarrot01]

What the heck is this all about?

It is a game that I am playing with my dead grandmother, I would explain but she might get angry... did you know that if you place ice in the sun it starts to melt?

[Sweedishcarrot01]

Why not :rolleyes:

because I don't like you, no body does, and for the record, my dog is better looking than you...

lol, just kidding. I will PM you the link Tony

[weka2000]

Keep but ask for discount.
Did he say if it was still under warranty?

Yes the chinesses recipt states it was brought 20/7/2006
Warrenty card matches the lens number

[momentz]

HAHAHAHA... which one(s) of you was caught gettin sum action at the boobs on bikes??

(pic not work safe?)
http://homepages.xnet.co.nz/~wendyf/Image026.jpg

[downunder]

picking up a lens tomorrow I bought on trademe, was sold as near new but after Tony's experience I think I will take the canon lens aging guide with me just to be sure.

[Sweedishcarrot01]

HAHAHAHA... which one(s) of you was caught gettin sum action at the boobs on bikes??

(pic not work safe?)
http://homepages.xnet.co.nz/~wendyf/Image026.jpg

Funny

[tim]

Wow that is expensive ! I get 16 X 20 matted for $12 each ( and i thought that was expensive)

Is that for full framing as well as matting?

These matts are white, and are about 8mm thick I think, the photo is set about half way in. Same thing? The framer, who's a member of my photography club, said it cost about $20 just for the materials. Cost me $55 each.

Where do you get yours so cheap?

[downunder]

HAHAHAHA... which one(s) of you was caught gettin sum action at the boobs on bikes??

(pic not work safe?)
http://homepages.xnet.co.nz/~wendyf/Image026.jpg

I like the open mouth expression of the guy on the left with the cap on, all he needs is his tounge hanging out :)

[downunder]

These matts are white, and are about 8mm thick I think, the photo is set about half way in. Same thing? The framer, who's a member of my photography club, said it cost about $20 just for the materials.

Where do you get yours so cheap?

Mine are black and no where near that thickness, I buy from a local framer in east tamaki. I need to increase the thickness as over time they tend to buckle a bit unless framed. I get them matted for competition at a local camera club.

[tim]

Ah ok, different quality.

I just looked at the entry for the NZIPP awards... you should see what it costs to enter two prints!

$40/print, so $80
NZIPP Print Case: $95 (they make you buy one of their print cases to return you prints, if you don't already have one).
Enter fee: $50

Total NZIPP fees: $225! Add onto that the $25 for prints, and $110 for framing, total cost is $360! Not sure i'm going to bother now, that's a fair whack of cash just to get two images into a competition!

[weka2000]

I like the open mouth expression of the guy on the left with the cap on, all he needs is his tounge hanging out :)

Yes flash gear but lens cap on go figure. At least they were canons :lol:

I have had another look on my laptop at todays 70-200 pics and they are way sharper than my other LCD which I dont use much for photo editing.

[joeseph]

HAHAHAHA... which one(s) of you was caught gettin sum action at the boobs on bikes??

(pic not work safe?)
http://homepages.xnet.co.nz/~wendyf/Image026.jpg
Dunno 'bout getting caught. Lets put it this way, I have much better pics than Matt does.
And yes she was posing pretty well.

[Wazza]

Hooray for Boobies...

If anyone knows..

[dgcorner]

Anyone have a link re lens age calculator?

[weka2000]

Anyone have a link re lens age calculator?

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Canon-Lenses/Canon-Lens-Aging.aspx

[weka2000]

Dunno 'bout getting caught. Lets put it this way, I have much better pics than Matt does.
And yes she was posing pretty well.

Image 24 has duncan in it :lol:

[dgcorner]

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Canon-Lenses/Canon-Lens-Aging.aspx

Thanks Tony!

[joeseph]

Image 24 has duncan in it :lol:
& the chap next to me didn't like being impaled by tripod by the looks of it... :p

Interesting actually - given that set of pix, I should be able to identify who took them...

[FlyingPete]

ok I was bored again tonight and decided that the card I posted last night was a bit rough on a member on this forum.

so I have created another one, if this is less funny, or worse than the other one then please move on and just ignore the fact that I have posted it. :)

now down to it:
http://www.cuthbert.net.nz/potn/gkpe_2.gif

Just a couple of things, no harm were meant in the posting of the first card, and it was never meet to suggest that Tony had more money that sense. He knows how to use the camera to take some really nice shots. And at the end of the day that's what counts.

No one around here dresses up as Austin Powers.
http://www.lowden.orcon.net.nz/PeteEvil.jpg

[FlyingPete]

Yes the chinesses recipt states it was brought 20/7/2006
Warrenty card matches the lens number

Do you need another 70-200 for an IQ comparison? I may be able to help (as you know!)

[OiPaz]

have had a look thru for decent 2.8 pix, here's the link (can't be bothered with thumbnails today...)
http://joebloggs.servebeer.com/potn/16-35/
Some of those picture are really stunning! :)
Is 0691 Akhnaten? It seems to be, but probably not the famous huge 2m high face: is it a small reproduction?

[MattL]

HAHAHAHA... which one(s) of you was caught gettin sum action at the boobs on bikes??

(pic not work safe?)
http://homepages.xnet.co.nz/~wendyf/Image026.jpg

Wheres Duncan : http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/4832/crw413801largevi6.jpg

And what do you mean not work safe? They can walk outside your window at walk but cant appear on your tv screen? Even the police said that in this day and age its not innapropriate.

I was watching at work. So was my boss.

[tommykjensen]

and one more for a post count

Do not post just to get your post count up. If You are doing this to gain access to post in G&N rest assured that your post count will be reduced or you won't get access to G&N.

Continue in PM !

[tim]

Great photo Dr Pete Evil!

[MattL]

and one more for a post count
'
I really, really wish you wouldn't do that. Its bloody annoying.

Matt.

[forsaken]

so wheres the 'bike' pics?

[MattL]

Dunno 'bout getting caught. Lets put it this way, I have much better pics than Matt does.
And yes she was posing pretty well.

Speaking of that im gonna need a copy of all the shots on your card from today - pretty please. Post the foyer shots up too when you get a moment.

[tommykjensen]

'
I really, really wish you wouldn't do that. Its bloody annoying.

Matt.

He better stop now.

btw your PM inbox is full.

[MattL]

He better stop now.

btw your PM inbox is full.

*cleared*

Thanks.

Duncan i just deleted the PM with your phone number in it! Sorry,

If you could send it when you get a chance, that'd be great.

Matt

[Sweedishcarrot01]

'
I really, really wish you wouldn't do that. Its bloody annoying.

Matt.

Sorry to annoy you Matt, I will refrain.

[Sweedishcarrot01]

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Canon-Lenses/Canon-Lens-Aging.aspx

Sweet site Tony, rather encrypted huh. Btw, you must be getting quite a collection of landscapes by now?

[MattL]

John, there was an article in the aucklander the other day you might find interesting - its just been republished in the herald.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=1&ObjectID=10397681

[FlyingPete]

So we all now know why Canon may be discontiuning the 70-200 f/2.8, they just released a 70-200 f/4IS :D

[weka2000]

Do you need another 70-200 for an IQ comparison? I may be able to help (as you know!)

I have looked at the photos I took when I borrowed yours. I will use as a reference. I know my photos look sharper on my laptop.

I am also wondering if I may not be as steady as I once was. Im finding I get hand shakes a lot more so maybe I need a mono pod. The F2.8 is a lot heaveier. Will re test today.

Did some testing with the 2xTC at 300mm and 400mm pretending it was a prime and seeing what I could capture. I hope to test the 300 F2.8 this weekend down at Mission Bay.

This will be my last lens spend so I need to be 100% sure

[weka2000]

Sweet site Tony, rather encrypted huh. Btw, you must be getting quite a collection of landscapes by now?

Not really. Im in that "what do I want to shoot" mode trying everything. Spring time is flowers and macros.

[MHP]

So we all now know why Canon may be discontiuning the 70-200 f/2.8, they just released a 70-200 f/4IS :D

???, Have you seen this somewhere?

[Sweedishcarrot01]

Not really. Im in that "what do I want to shoot" mode trying everything. Spring time is flowers and macros.

Oh, really? Well the landscapes you posted not so long ago were real nice

[MHP]

Ah ok, different quality.

I just looked at the entry for the NZIPP awards... you should see what it costs to enter two prints!

$40/print, so $80
NZIPP Print Case: $95 (they make you buy one of their print cases to return you prints, if you don't already have one).
Enter fee: $50

Total NZIPP fees: $225! Add onto that the $25 for prints, and $110 for framing, total cost is $360! Not sure i'm going to bother now, that's a fair whack of cash just to get two images into a competition!


Wow thats expensive!. Are you a member Tim, that in itself is a punch to the pocket too, although good to have if you're in the weddings

Still if you win it or get a placing, you won't be too worried about the price it cost compared to the boost it'll give you in the market.

[weka2000]

Oh, really? Well the landscapes you posted not so long ago were real nice

Thanks mate. I need to get out and about a bit more. Back to the west coast and the waterfalls.

Mind you out east could have some oppotunitys as well.

[FlyingPete]

???, Have you seen this somewhere?

New gear being released in this round that has been leaked, a EOS400D (replaces 350D) - 10MP etc etc, 70-200L f/4 IS, 50L f/1.2 and possibly the 1Ds MK3 (can't verify the last one).

[Wazza]

Remember Aaron's post count posts were more of a piss take, as he once said how the heck does Tim do 15,000 in less than 2 years??

Well you've had your fun now. ;)

Some interesting stats...

These are my referalls to iKirst.com
http://stat1.traceics.co.nz/stat/ikirstcom/referinte/luna/

So far for the month of August.

[Wazza]

Where the heck did the stupid 370D name come from anyway? Sure 300D, 350D... but logically, not increasing by 50s, but more 40D / 400D for the baby model. Guess with the cheapness, there is no need for an absolute base model of 4000D with no manual mode, only Auto, and ISO 100-800