GKPE: General Ramblings thread

[FlyingPete]

Pete, Taken me days, but I've just worked out why I'm not keen on your new avatar. On a subconscious level it messes with my braincells as it has direct similarities with a certain corporate logo...

Oh cr*p :shock: I didn't think of that, it is suposed to be a Warhol version of my brownie, may need some tuning...

[FlyingPete]

Just made some minor adjustments with the consultation of the other certain logo :rolleyes:

[weka2000]

Ah just had meeting with my boss. Looking at a job share situation. I still stay IT Manager and finish at lunch and get another person in who acts as a trainner for the staff who will fix there stuip mistakes and smile at them, rather than telling them the are morons :lol:

This will give me the afternoon to do photgraphy. May look in to stock photos, any ideas on that department?

[DiscoLizard]

Tony - sounds like a bloody good idea to me. You might as well enjoy life, cause you only get one shot at it. If you're able to make photography your income, and there won't be any impact on your wife/family then I can't imagine what would hold you back :)

[MHP]

Ah just had meeting with my boss. Looking at a job share situation. I still stay IT Manager and finish at lunch and get another person in who acts as a trainner for the staff who will fix there stuip mistakes and smile at them, rather than telling them the are morons :lol:

This will give me the afternoon to do photgraphy. May look in to stock photos, any ideas on that department?


stock could be ok, there loads out there, and a couple of good books too:
here's 2:

how to shoot stock photography. by Michael Heron

The Photographers Market Guide to Photo Submission and Portfolio Formats. by Michael Willins

To photograph for National Geographic, you need to have published 3 photographic books, along with other things so I am told.

Also try publishers. see who prints the plants/flowers mags and books, find out where they get their images from.

With stock libraries search the web for ones in UK and USA. They pay more and in their currancy, all the more for you with our $. It also gives you a little leadway as they might only have one or two photographers on NZ.

[tim]

YEP. Ive done IT for 8 years, time for a change. I LOVE photgraphy $20K spent this year. Now its time to live the passion.

Wife said no to glamour. I want to see NZ all of it and try to get paid to do so.
What have I got to loose?

Ive done all I can do in my current job, and I want a new challange.

I'd do my research well before making this leap. Stock photos are cheap now, with adobe stock photos, and the international image libraries. Getting good stock images will probably have to be at dawn or dusk, so that's not many per day, and lots of time on the road.

Unless you have a sound business plan and a steady income already, you shouldn't assume you'll make any money at all from photography. If you do then it's a bonus. I know photographers with 10+ years experience who are scraping by, good photographers with good business knowledge. Make sure you and your family can live on what you're sure you'll bring in, plus whatever your partner earns.

Have you read this thread (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=207191)?

What do you have to lose? Your house. Your car. Your family if wost comes to worst. Think carefully.

[weka2000]

I'd do my research well before making this leap. Stock photos are cheap now, with adobe stock photos, and the international image libraries. Getting good stock images will probably have to be at dawn or dusk, so that's not many per day, and lots of time on the road.

Unless you have a sound business plan and a steady income already, you shouldn't assume you'll make any money at all from photography. If you do then it's a bonus. I know photographers with 10+ years experience who are scraping by, good photographers with good business knowledge. Make sure you and your family can live on what you're sure you'll bring in, plus whatever your partner earns.

Have you read this thread (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=207191)?

What do you have to lose? Your house. Your car. Your family if wost comes to worst. Think carefully.

Thanks Tim. In our house Sandra is the main provider at 2.5s what I earn. I would not quit my day job rather just cut back 3hrs a day.

We will see what feed back I get fro the e-mails. It took me a while to get into IT with no experence or papers but that was the challange. Photography is no different and thats why I will make it work.

What other markets are there for Landscape/ birds/ nature photographers

[MHP]

Tim's right, it's not something to be taken lightly. With stock you're up against some of the best photographers in the world who have been creating images with all the equipment for years and know how to use it like the back of their hand.

[Wazza]

Good luck in stock images.. Unless you're some big time photographer, with your own personal stock gallery on your site...

As an example..
I aspire to this.

http://www.davidwallphoto.com/

[tim]

Thanks Tim. In our house Sandra is the main provider at 2.5s what I earn. I would not quit my day job rather just cut back 3hrs a day.

We will see what feed back I get fro the e-mails. It took me a while to get into IT with no experence or papers but that was the challange. Photography is no different and thats why I will make it work.

What other markets are there for Landscape/ birds/ nature photographers

That changes things a bit eh?! In that case the only reason to keep your job would be just in case she lost her job? Plus it's always nice to have some income of your own.

[theflyingkiwi]

Tony, have your ever thought of doing a calander. I was at lunch today looking for a calander to send to a friend in the states, and alot photographers seem to do that.

[FlyingPete]

Tony, have your ever thought of doing a calander. I was at lunch today looking for a calander to send to a friend in the states, and alot photographers seem to do that.

Actually you probably have enough waterfall shots and sunset shots to put something together.

My biggest concern with trying to make some money out of photography is every second person I meet with a DSLR is trying to make money out of it :rolleyes:

[DiscoLizard]

My take on it is that if Sandra earns enough to provide for the family, and you and her are both happy for you to do photography as a half-job, then there is no reason not to do it.

If you operate on the assumption that you're not going to be making any money from your photography and can still survive comfortably, then everything you make is a bonus.

I doubt theres much income in stock photography - theres just too much competition. Go for quality rather than quantity - like Mark suggested, a calendar or something similar is the way go to, IMO. Provide the whole package, aim for the top of the market. Maybe postcards, souvenir images for tourists, that sort of thing. You'll have to be a pretty good salesman as well as a good photographer to earn a living.

[weka2000]

We each need to learn to follow our dreams yet be wise enough to research and not to do things in haste.

Just got a reply back from the historical places trust. They have inhouse people.

Wazza looks like I will have aftrnoons free soon ;)

First there were extereme sports now we need extreme photography. Wazza will make it because he has found a niche market. I need to find 1 as well. What ever it is 1 has to b passionate about the subject matter
(while not upsetting ones wife) I was very passionate about woman :)

Anyway its early day so when the time is right the door will open.

[tim]

Identify your market and how you're unique, project sales, work out costs (and there are plenty of them). There are hundreds of calendars already produced, why would someone buy yours? Wait a couple of months into the new year and all calendars are cheap in the book stores. Plus who uses calendars anyway?

[weka2000]

Identify your market and how you're unique, project sales, work out costs (and there are plenty of them). There are hundreds of calendars already produced, why would someone buy yours? Wait a couple of months into the new year and all calendars are cheap in the book stores. Plus who uses calendars anyway?

Finding that "uniqueness" will be the problem. Everyone now has a camera but I say there is still a lot of money to be had if you think beyond the square and modern conventions.

Our group has 3 Wedding photographers. I want to find something that no one has thought of that involves adventure and discovery and NO people :)

[DiscoLizard]

True tim. I'd imagine the real money in calendars would not be in selling them individually, but probably in selling them to corporations who send out Christmas calendars (banks, garages, etc.)

Bottom line, don't expect to make money for at least the first year or two, just like in any other startup.

[FlyingPete]

...I want to find something that no one has thought of that involves adventure and discovery and NO people :)

I hear Mars has some good opportunities, those robotic rovers have no artistic skill what so ever :rolleyes:

[OiPaz]

Who was the lucky man that bought the Manfrotto 055MF3 MagFiber Tripod at Auckland Camera for $489 (which is $200 less than its normal price)? ;) Anyone of you? If so, please, provide an accurate review!!!

[weka2000]

I hear Mars has some good opportunities, those robotic rovers have no artistic skill what so ever :rolleyes:

I was thinking closer to home...the moon :lol:

[theflyingkiwi]

I was thinking closer to home...the moon :lol:

been there done that. the thing to cover these days is pluto, it's feeling lonely at the moment as no longer being classed as a planet.

What about doing studio work, not just women but group shots, familys etc. This will mean however you will have to put up with kids.

[IainB]

Ah yes but then you will have to grow a beard, that is a prerequisite.

And wear shorts! How are your knees?:D

[Wazza]

Most Calendars are run through publishing companies who take the cut. I know a guy who made a calendar, he had some stunning shots. Better than what one can do with a Digital SLR...

www.granthunter.co.nz

[weka2000]

been there done that. the thing to cover these days is pluto, it's feeling lonely at the moment as no longer being classed as a planet.

What about doing studio work, not just women but group shots, familys etc. This will mean however you will have to put up with kids.

Dont have the intrest in groups, kids, husbands or pets :rolleyes:
Well at least im honest. Dont do fuel things either.

Flowers and birds and bees, landscapes, sunsets, waterfalls, surf and attractive woman

[theflyingkiwi]

well then with these subjects in mind you have to make sure you become the best you can. Also you have to find out your take on the subject. or to put it another way define your syle of photography.

[weka2000]

well then with these subjects in mind you have to make sure you become the best you can. Also you have to find out your take on the subject. or to put it another way define your syle of photography.

I still like the idea of the waterfalls, whereby I show people things they will never see in their life time, due to the fact it requires work to find them. I hate beaten track photos, hell anyone with a PP can get the main waterfall at Karekare you see from the road.

Anyway its only been a year since I got a 20D so as for style umm do I have 1?
I know I got plenty of attitude :lol:

[IainB]

This is not exactly a photographic question, but seeing we have an abundance of techies in our midst I am hoping a solution to my problem might be at hand!

Scenario: 1. My laptop is connected wirelessly to my desktop pc. Under 'My Computer' on either device, the other is listed as a network drive (when both are turned on of course.) 2. I have a portable USB HD with a screen (working fine - just checked).
Problem: When I connect this portable HD (VP6240) to my laptop via USB, the friendly beepbeep tells me it has been found, and Drives J K and L appear in 'My Computer'. HOWEVER trying to click on any of these 3 drives produces the error message "Insert disc into Drive ...". I simply cannot access the portable drive contents. Device Manager tells me the portable drive is 'working properly', and is listed under the 'safely remove hardware' menu.
HOWEVER (#2) IF the desktop pc is off, and I connect the VP portable drive to laptop, it CAN be found under 'My Computer' by clicking on the icon 'My Documents' (the very icon I use to access (mapped?) for the desktop pc!) and not under drive J K or L. How confusing is that? Now, please forgive me if my non-tech-speak has confused things. If anyone can provide a solution that would be great. I would lke to access my VP drive while still netowrk-connected to my other pc.

[Sweedishcarrot01]

Took this at Port Waikato today, no matter what I did, I just couldn't stop that headlight from blowing out... unless of course I opted for no detail in the shadows...

[NordieBoy]

Map the network drive to another letter?

This is not exactly a photographic question, but seeing we have an abundance of techies in our midst I am hoping a solution to my problem might be at hand!

Scenario: 1. My laptop is connected wirelessly to my desktop pc. Under 'My Computer' on either device, the other is listed as a network drive (when both are turned on of course.) 2. I have a portable USB HD with a screen (working fine - just checked).
Problem: When I connect this portable HD (VP6240) to my laptop via USB, the friendly beepbeep tells me it has been found, and Drives J K and L appear in 'My Computer'. HOWEVER trying to click on any of these 3 drives produces the error message "Insert disc into Drive ...". I simply cannot access the portable drive contents. Device Manager tells me the portable drive is 'working properly', and is listed under the 'safely remove hardware' menu.
HOWEVER (#2) IF the desktop pc is off, and I connect the VP portable drive to laptop, it CAN be found under 'My Computer' by clicking on the icon 'My Documents' (the very icon I use to access (mapped?) for the desktop pc!) and not under drive J K or L. How confusing is that? Now, please forgive me if my non-tech-speak has confused things. If anyone can provide a solution that would be great. I would lke to access my VP drive while still netowrk-connected to my other pc.

[FlyingPete]

This is not exactly a photographic question, but seeing we have an abundance of techies in our midst I am hoping a solution to my problem might be at hand!

Scenario: 1. My laptop is connected wirelessly to my desktop pc. Under 'My Computer' on either device, the other is listed as a network drive (when both are turned on of course.) 2. I have a portable USB HD with a screen (working fine - just checked).
Problem: When I connect this portable HD (VP6240) to my laptop via USB, the friendly beepbeep tells me it has been found, and Drives J K and L appear in 'My Computer'. HOWEVER trying to click on any of these 3 drives produces the error message "Insert disc into Drive ...". I simply cannot access the portable drive contents. Device Manager tells me the portable drive is 'working properly', and is listed under the 'safely remove hardware' menu.
HOWEVER (#2) IF the desktop pc is off, and I connect the VP portable drive to laptop, it CAN be found under 'My Computer' by clicking on the icon 'My Documents' (the very icon I use to access (mapped?) for the desktop pc!) and not under drive J K or L. How confusing is that? Now, please forgive me if my non-tech-speak has confused things. If anyone can provide a solution that would be great. I would lke to access my VP drive while still netowrk-connected to my other pc.

OK I am a techie and that sounds confusing :confused: .

My Vosonic VP3320 shows as three drives, as well, two of them are the card slots in the actual device, one is the internal harddisk.

Try this. Right click on My Computer and select Manage, then go to the Disk Manangement section under storage, see what you can see there. I have seen issues with network drive letters conflicting with local drives, it may be that.

As for why it appears under My Documents on the laptop, that has me?

[joeseph]

Iain,
I suspect like Pete it's to do with drive letter assignments.
if you get a moment, is it possible to send us a bit of a picture of what's going on?
open windows explorer (windows key + E) and do a printscreen (alt +PRNT SCRN) of a) the laptop on it's own, b) the laptop with the desktop turned on and c) the laptop with the desktop turned on & the external HDD on. You can paste these screencaptures into a word document with descriptions of what's what sure between us we can come up with a game plan... :-)

[weka2000]

NZfritz try AEB next time. I like it.

[dgcorner]

Geez, you guys can really talk;) :lol:

Another fun day at work... though we only sold around $2K worth of goods. My contribution was a cellphone, TV, and a pair of wireless phones:confused:

Btw, there are heaps of stuff in the clearance section, e.g., DECT phones, blenders, DVD players, a range hood (flash looking one!) LCD TV, etc. Drop by the shop if you are in the area -- we're on Apirana Road, across NOSH. You just might find something you like.

Also, starting tomorrow, we have 15% off on F&P appliances -- just for a week before prices go up. Tomorrow's the right time to pop into Hill & Stewart if you are after something. Prices are definitely going up.;)

[IainB]

Iain,
I suspect like Pete it's to do with drive letter assignments.
if you get a moment, is it possible to send us a bit of a picture of what's going on?
open windows explorer (windows key + E) and do a printscreen (alt +PRNT SCRN) of a) the laptop on it's own, b) the laptop with the desktop turned on and c) the laptop with the desktop turned on & the external HDD on. You can paste these screencaptures into a word document with descriptions of what's what & email to duncanc at ihug dot co dot nz
sure between us we can come up with a game plan... :-)

Underway!

[Nzshrimper]

As for why it appears under My Documents on the laptop, that has me?

could be a shortcut in "my docs" linking to the drives.. but i would aggree it sounds like a drive lettering conflict.. 'mange' under my computer should resovle this by relettering the drive... unless the external hdd is faulty..

[IainB]

Iain,
I suspect like Pete it's to do with drive letter assignments.
if you get a moment, is it possible to send us a bit of a picture of what's going on?
open windows explorer (windows key + E) and do a printscreen (alt +PRNT SCRN) of a) the laptop on it's own, b) the laptop with the desktop turned on and c) the laptop with the desktop turned on & the external HDD on. You can paste these screencaptures into a word document with descriptions of what's what & email to duncanc at ihug dot co dot nz
sure between us we can come up with a game plan... :-)

I've now emailed as suggested. Along with Pete and Fran, your notion that there may be conflicting drive letters seems to be correct. Under 'Manage' (My Computer) with the HD connected, I see it has letter 'M' - the same as the drive letter for the desktop pc. I have no idea how that happened.:oops:
The USB drive previously worked ok without a letter assigned....

[joeseph]

Iain, haven't seen said e-mail (could be anywhere by now!) but sounds like your mapped drive letter to the desktop needs to change to let the intermittantly attached HDD take up the "M" letter
What you'll probaly have to do is rightclick the desktop PC mapping and choose disconnect (write down the mapping details first you'll need them in the next step)
Then under "tools" "map network drive" remap a path to the desktop p.c (note you can choose whatever drive letter you want for this - suggest you use anything that isn't used! :-) ) hopefully once done the ext HDD can come & go without causing grief...
- Bill Gates has a lot to answer for and randomly picking drive letters is one of these!

[theflyingkiwi]

- Bill Gates has a lot to answer for and randomly picking drive letters is one of these!

You know Bill gates more than likey didn't write that line of code. Now don't take this the wrong way, but I find it (sometimes) unbelieveable that people always has a go at poor old Bill. He has in effect change the face of this planet.

Sure he didn't create the personal computer, but he was the one that made it be one on every desk. If it wasn't for him where would we be? Apple prices will still be sky high, and I am sure I have never hurd of Steve Jobs saying that he wonts a apple on every desk in the world, if he did then he should have changed his bussines plan.

lets face the facts, if Bill gates didn't start microsoft the world would be different place, and more than likey computers would still be just for the geeks.

Lets also not forget what he is doing with his money. One thing is for sure he is doing a hell of alot more than any goverment is doing. And goverments have more money!

As for Microsoft, well sure windows could be better and sure there are things I would like to see changed in windows. But you know the only people that realy care the geeks. The rest of the world just wonts to do their work and go home at the end the day. perhaps check some e-mails and browse a forum/blog or two.

PS I am not having a go at you, just posting radom thoughts on the internet, even if anyone didn't care :) :lol:

[tim]

You need a new flux capacitor.

[theflyingkiwi]

nope, just a new warp core :)

[Wazza]

Yay, just finished resizing some drifting shots...

Then it's time to make a page and upload. I may be done before sunlight!

[scotttnz]

You know Bill gates more than likey didn't write that line of code. Now don't take this the wrong way, but I find it (sometimes) unbelieveable that people always has a go at poor old Bill. He has in effect change the face of this planet.

Sure he didn't create the personal computer, but he was the one that made it be one on every desk. If it wasn't for him where would we be? Apple prices will still be sky high, and I am sure I have never hurd of Steve Jobs saying that he wonts a apple on every desk in the world, if he did then he should have changed his bussines plan.

lets face the facts, if Bill gates didn't start microsoft the world would be different place, and more than likey computers would still be just for the geeks.

Lets also not forget what he is doing with his money. One thing is for sure he is doing a hell of alot more than any goverment is doing. And goverments have more money!

As for Microsoft, well sure windows could be better and sure there are things I would like to see changed in windows. But you know the only people that realy care the geeks. The rest of the world just wonts to do their work and go home at the end the day. perhaps check some e-mails and browse a forum/blog or two.

PS I am not having a go at you, just posting radom thoughts on the internet, even if anyone didn't care :) :lol:

I agree! Windows is far from all bad, and so is Bill. At times they are a victim of tall poppy syndrome. I'm not saying they are perfect, but on balance I say they are good for the world.

[weka2000]

Someone want to ask for the serial at the bottom of the lens

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Camera-accessories/Lenses/Canon/auction-68232845.htm

3 years old funny they stopped making them longer than 3 years ago :confused:

[NordieBoy]

Drop him an e-mail and tell him.
He'd have bought it 2nd hand and will be going on what he was told in that auction.
He gets stuff in from auctions in the States and Aussie as well.

[weka2000]

Um the 5D sold, wonder if Glam got it for $3200 lets see if it re apperas and what the price is. He has a 20D for $880 at the moment camera body only nothing else. No box charger etc.

May make for a good IR camera Some thing use on bright sunny auckland days. :lol:

[FlyingPete]

Um the 5D sold, wonder if Glam got it for $3200 lets see if it re apperas and what the price is. He has a 20D for $880 at the moment camera body only nothing else. No box charger etc.

May make for a good IR camera Some thing use on bright sunny auckland days. :lol:

That 20D would be an excellent backup body, if you already have one with the charger etc...

[NordieBoy]

I asked Glam if he had a 20D lying around and now he does I can't get it :(
Damn you Tony - forcing me to buy that lens.

[weka2000]

I asked Glam if he had a 20D lying around and now he does I can't get it :(
Damn you Tony - forcing me to buy that lens.

I hope your arm has recovered from me pushing it so far up your back :p

[weka2000]

That 20D would be an excellent backup body, if you already have one with the charger etc...

I already have a backup, but IR has aleays intrested me.

[FlyingPete]

I already have a backup, but IR has aleays intrested me.

Tell you what, you buy it, give it to me, and I will give you my 20D with scratched hot filter (yes Duncan, I too have a scratch, fortunately no where near as bad as the one you had!)

Here it is at f/22 to the far right:
http://www.lowden.orcon.net.nz/scratch.jpg

[weka2000]

Tell you what, you buy it, give it to me, and I will give you my 20D with scratched hot filter (yes Duncan, I too have a scratch, fortunately no where near as bad as the one you had!)

Here it is at f/22 to the far right:


Not a bad plan, but you pay for the IR filter I will have to get :)
Glam is saying his 20D is basically brand new. How many shutter actions has yours taken.
Wonder if Canon NZ would do the swap for me?

[FlyingPete]

Not a bad plan, but you pay for the IR filter I will have to get :)
Glam is saying his 20D is basically brand new. How many shutter actions has yours taken.
Wonder if Canon NZ would do the swap for me?

Mine has done around 30K ish, now I think of it though it has a five year warranty so I might be best just to hold on to it :confused:

Anyway you have spent far too much in the last few days already :D

[weka2000]

Mine has done around 30K ish, now I think of it though it has a five year warranty so I might be best just to hold on to it :confused:

Anyway you have spent far too much in the last few days already :D

Pete its not such a stupid idea when you think about it.

[tim]

Tell you what, you buy it, give it to me, and I will give you my 20D with scratched hot filter (yes Duncan, I too have a scratch, fortunately no where near as bad as the one you had!)

Here it is at f/22 to the far right:

Bugger. I stopped doing dust testing at F32 and started using F16 because that's the smallest aperture i'll ever use in practice. In reality F12 or F8 is what i'd use, and that's only with studio lights.

[FlyingPete]

Bugger. I stopped doing dust testing at F32 and started using F16 because that's the smallest aperture i'll ever use in practice. In reality F12 or F8 is what i'd use, and that's only with studio lights.

I now have that f/16 rule as well, but prefer f/8 if I can (the old 28-105 is as sharp as any L zoom at f/8 :D ). It shows up a f/16 as well, but only if you look carefully and if that area is sky or something, not worth the $$$ and hassel to get it fixed :rolleyes:

[weka2000]

I now have that f/16 rule as well, but prefer f/8 if I can (the old 28-105 is as sharp as any L zoom at f/8 :D ). It shows up a f/16 as well, but only if you look carefully and if that area is sky or something, not worth the $$$ and hassel to get it fixed :rolleyes:

Yes and I need some new glass before a 3rd camera body :rolleyes:

[FlyingPete]

Yes and I need some new glass before a 3rd camera body :rolleyes:

Try and score an old G series, you can do the IR conversion yourself then.

[weka2000]

I got a picture published

http://www.mangerebridge.co.nz/News.html
july 2006

Im famous :lol:

[theflyingkiwi]

yea world famous in mangere :) btw your name isn't attached to the photo.

[joeseph]

Um the 5D sold, wonder if Glam got it for $3200 lets see if it re apperas and what the price is. He has a 20D for $880 at the moment camera body only nothing else. No box charger etc.

May make for a good IR camera Some thing use on bright sunny auckland days. :lol:
5D went for $3800 to digitalstore.....

congrats on getting published!

[weka2000]

yea world famous in mangere :) btw your name isn't attached to the photo.

at the end with name and contact details

[DiscoLizard]

Congrats Tony :)

[weka2000]

Congrats Tony :)
How is liz?

[IainB]

I got a picture published

http://www.mangerebridge.co.nz/News.html
july 2006

Im famous :lol:

Well done ;)

[DiscoLizard]

How is liz?

Better now :) Just a 24 hour thing.

[Wazza]

Well done Tony!! I was also going.. but no name> Then saw it.. even with a phone number! :)

[Nzshrimper]

I got a picture published

http://www.mangerebridge.co.nz/News.html
july 2006

Im famous :lol: Congrats on the photo. Lets hope its the first of many..

[weka2000]

Its a nice feeling see yor work been used. Imagine been on the cover of a mag or newspaper :rolleyes:

[FlyingPete]

Its a nice feeling see yor work been used. Imagine been on the cover of a mag or newspaper :rolleyes:

Its great, especially when it is a picture of someone famous :D

http://www.lowden.orcon.net.nz/WorldVision.jpg

http://www.lowden.orcon.net.nz/Credits.jpg

[Moppie]

Very nice of world vision to fly you and Petra to Indonesia to take the photo. :)

[FlyingPete]

Very nice of world vision to fly you and Petra to Indonesia to take the photo. :)

Yes, it was particularly difficult to get that aeriel shot of her standing on the wing of the plane too :rolleyes:

[DiscoLizard]

Nice Peter! Well done!

[DiscoLizard]

For those of you thinking about making some purchases from B&H - now might not be a bad time...

http://www.someconditionsapply.com/External/31-08-06-D.jpg

[theflyingkiwi]

For those of you thinking about making some purchases from B&H - now might not be a bad time...

you know I was thinking the same thing :)

[dgcorner]

Congratulations on being world famous in Mangere!

What a day... my legs still ache from standing all day... got to sell a nice Panasonic DVD videocam ;-)

[Nzshrimper]

Hope you are all well, spring is finally here...


Got some cloud photos with the norwester blowing here in canterbury.....

[rabsoft]

DiscoLizard were you walking past Wyndham and Federal streets at around 10am this morning ??

[NordieBoy]

Hope you are all well, spring is finally here...


Got some cloud photos with the norwester blowing here in canterbury.....
And in Nelson with the cir-pol on...
Except it's a Sou'wester...
Straight from camera...

[weka2000]

A little Statical info about my photography

lens used with 20D

10-20=208
16-35=247
17-40=105
24-70=426
50-500=1194

Lens used with 5D

17-40=1208
24-70=546
50 =266
50-500=602
70-200=545

There are landscape stats.

[weka2000]

I have a request. Does anyone have back copies of NZ D-Photo I could have a read of.

Came to the relisation that im am a baby photographer trying to get into a "mans" world with my dreams. Maybe its "learn to crawl before you can walk" time running comes after you have learnt to walk :o

Oh I also discoved a "how do you know you addicted to photography" today
How many of you drive along and look at the sun filter at the top of your windscreen and think about the effects the colours have on the thing you are looking at. Then work out what sort of Cokin filter you need to buy :lol:
Sandras new Mazda has a tabaco colour and what do you know cokin do one.
Or am I the only weird one in the group ;)

[FlyingPete]

I have a request. Does anyone have back copies of NZ D-Photo I could have a read of.


I have some I can dig up, I also have some mags from before digital got big.

[dgcorner]

Nice captures Chris & Fran. I am looking forward to Spring and Summer -- I will be able to take sunsets after a long day i the bard ;-)

Tony - the local library should have heaps of Outdoor Photographer and Popular Photography. I borrow at least 10 at a time. I am lucky to get one month old mags... Have a browse on www.manulau-libraries.govt.nz. You can actually request for a magazine to be delivered to your local library no matter where in Manukau the magazine is. There too are heaps of photography books on line.

[tag141]

am I the only weird one in the group

ummmm can I plead the fifth? ;)

And can I pose a question to all you techies out there. Following on from the post about networking but...

can I network two computers via a wireless router connected to one of them? If so, is there an 'knobheads guide' on how to do it? I can get the PC to see the laptop but not the other way round.

Hope to give the new camera a small outing tomorrow. Going to photo some cycling at the new velodrome. Should be different.

[Nzshrimper]

ummmm can I plead the fifth? ;)

And can I pose a question to all you techies out there. Following on from the post about networking but...

can I network two computers via a wireless router connected to one of them? If so, is there an 'knobheads guide' on how to do it? I can get the PC to see the laptop but not the other way round.

Hope to give the new camera a small outing tomorrow. Going to photo some cycling at the new velodrome. Should be different.

Are they both Win XP pro ? and what do you want to achive.. (is it to share data etc)

[theflyingkiwi]

Or am I the only weird one in the group ;)

umm depends on what you think is weird, but I would put ya down to be the mad professor of the group :)

[dgcorner]

ummmm can I plead the fifth? ;)

And can I pose a question to all you techies out there. Following on from the post about networking but...

can I network two computers via a wireless router connected to one of them? If so, is there an 'knobheads guide' on how to do it? I can get the PC to see the laptop but not the other way round.

Hope to give the new camera a small outing tomorrow. Going to photo some cycling at the new velodrome. Should be different.

Do you have a wireless router or a wireless ADSL router? I think that if you have a dedicated (like the D-Link 604T) wireless ADSL router networking is not possible. Duncan & Pete will surely jump on this.

[theflyingkiwi]

can I network two computers via a wireless router connected to one of them? If so, is there an 'knobheads guide' on how to do it? I can get the PC to see the laptop but not the other way round.

Yep. it really doesn't matter if it's a wired or wireless network. If one can see the other then the good thing is that they are on both the same network.

what happens when the try to see the pc from the laptop? On the laptop if you click on My Network Places - Entire Network - Microsoft Windows Network. At this point do you just see Workgroup or something else.

If you just Workgroup that should mean that both PC are on the same Workgroup. (if you have the machines on 2 different workgroups then they should be listed here) If you go in here do you see all machines on the network?

[tag141]

Shrimper...

PC, XP pro...laptop XP home. Using wireless adapter on lappy to connect to web. Wireless router connected to PC by ethernet. I want to browse my image files on the PC, sat in the comfort of the settee. :)

[Nzshrimper]

I am going shooting at Mt Hutt tommorow... (Boss is paying for a staff ski trip :D ) So that aside... Can you guys give me any tips for shooting in the snow.. (light will be issues i can see for one) ?

[tag141]

If you go in here do you see all machines on the network?

Trying this on the laptop I see the workgroup but when I open that I only see the folder on the laptop.

[Nzshrimper]

Nice captures Chris & Fran. I am looking forward to Spring and Summer -- I will be able to take sunsets after a long day i the bard ;-)

thanks

the bard is a pub here in CHCh... i too would like to catch the sunset after a long day in the bard... Not sure the wife would be happy thou... ;)

[theflyingkiwi]

I am going shooting at Mt Hutt tommorow... (Boss is paying for a staff ski trip :D ) So that aside... Can you guys give me any tips for shooting in the snow.. (light will be issues i can see for one) ?

you know some of us have never been to the snow :eek: :o

Tag, do you know if you can ping the other machine ? from your laptop

[Nzshrimper]

you know some of us have never been to the snow :eek: :o

Tag, do you know if you can ping the other machine ? from your laptop

what no snow.... how do u cope.....

[weka2000]

Dam all this computer stuff networks, routers, workgroups

You would thing most of use were IT guys during the day :rolleyes:

[joeseph]

Dam all this computer stuff networks, routers, workgroups

You would thing most of use were IT guys during the day :rolleyes:
hey, I hadn't started yet! :D

[joeseph]

I am going shooting at Mt Hutt tommorow... (Boss is paying for a staff ski trip :D ) So that aside... Can you guys give me any tips for shooting in the snow.. (light will be issues i can see for one) ?
I forsee great challenges with white balance - shoot raw? Letting the camera work it out is asking for grey...

[theflyingkiwi]

Dam all this computer stuff networks, routers, workgroups

You would thing most of use were IT guys during the day :rolleyes:

and you know the sad part, after work we don't stop :lol:

[tag141]

ping? doesn't that go with pong and a little round ball? OK, I really don't want to take up your time as this is a 'photography' forum isn't it? isn't it?

So very quickly, what would I ping? 192.168.0.1? This is where I get waaaaaaaaaaaaayyy above my head. Sorry for the busmans...

[theflyingkiwi]

ping? doesn't that go with pong and a little round ball? OK, I really don't want to take up your time as this is a 'photography' forum isn't it? isn't it?

So very quickly, what would I ping? 192.168.0.1? This is where I get waaaaaaaaaaaaayyy above my head. Sorry for the busmans...

check you pm :)

[joeseph]

check you pm :)
twice.

[NordieBoy]

And can I pose a question to all you techies out there. Following on from the post about networking but...

can I network two computers via a wireless router connected to one of them? If so, is there an 'knobheads guide' on how to do it? I can get the PC to see the laptop but not the other way round.
Both should be DHCP'ing to the router OK.
Are they on the same workgroup? (My Computer properties - Computer name)
Turn off the firewalls and see if that helps.
One may be set to block MS Networking.
Do both interweb OK?

[tim]

I still think it's your flux capacitor.

How many of you guys are members of a local photographic club? I've been going to one here for a couple of years, this year I was on the committee. Because of that i've met a bunch of pros, been exposed to many ideas, and assisted a pro a few times for the experience. You also have competitions (local and national), and exposure to things you'd never hear about otherwise. I highly highly recommend it.

GKPE will be its own club with regular meetings and outings one day. Go learn how others do it so you can do better.

[Nzshrimper]

I still think it's your flux capacitor.

How many of you guys are members of a local photographic club? I've been going to one here for a couple of years, this year I was on the committee. Because of that i've met a bunch of pros, been exposed to many ideas, and assisted a pro a few times for the experience. You also have competitions (local and national), and exposure to things you'd never hear about otherwise. I highly highly recommend it.

GKPE will be its own club with regular meetings and outings one day. Go learn how others do it so you can do better.

I agree Tim and a GKPE club would be great.. (gives me an excuse to run away for the weekend)

just sent off an application form for the local one here in chch.. just waiting to hear back. The reason for joining was to meet the locals , get some tips etc.. The best way to learn from those who were once in my position, so i can avoid the pit falls.....

[theflyingkiwi]

I still think it's your flux capacitor.

How many of you guys are members of a local photographic club? I've been going to one here for a couple of years, this year I was on the committee. Because of that i've met a bunch of pros, been exposed to many ideas, and assisted a pro a few times for the experience. You also have competitions (local and national), and exposure to things you'd never hear about otherwise. I highly highly recommend it.

GKPE will be its own club with regular meetings and outings one day. Go learn how others do it so you can do better.

I had thought about joining the local club. My fear is it will be full of old people with far to much time on there hands.

It's not that I don't mind old people, I just wont to hang out with people my own age.

[scotttnz]

GKPE will be its own club with regular meetings and outings one day. Go learn how others do it so you can do better.

GKPE already has regular meetings and outings in Auckland......does that make it a club?
I nominate Tony for club president......

[Nzshrimper]

GKPE already has regular meetings and outings in Auckland......does that make it a club?
I nominate Tony for club president......

second that .... motion passed

[joeseph]

GKPE already has regular meetings and outings in Auckland......does that make it a club?
I nominate Tony for club president......
Moppie for Minister of Transport?

[weka2000]

GKPE already has regular meetings and outings in Auckland......does that make it a club?
I nominate Tony for club president......

You crazy, Im a dictator. The reason I never finished my theology degree and became a minister was I dont have time for people and their continual bulls*^t

My motto is harden up. My work motto is "My way or NO way" Im happy to be the clubs thug and hit man :rolleyes:

[NordieBoy]

GKPE will be its own club with regular meetings and outings one day. Go learn how others do it so you can do better.
I think the GKPE club should have a central meeting place.
Hmmmm....

Nelson?

I've been along to the last 2 local camera club meetings and they are discussing wether they should change from 1 per month to 2 with the 2nd being more hands on workshoppy type of thing.

I said yippee! I'm in for that :D

[scotttnz]

Im happy to be the clubs thug and hit man \

OK, you just can't be club treasurer, you would spend all our money on L lenses......on second thought, I don't see a problem with that.....

[tag141]

Networking problems solved. Beers for you both. Now if any of you want information from me from what my day job is, feel free to ask away..!!!:D On second thoughts..

I'm a member of my local photography club. Meet 2x a month and have regular trips away. Average age...50+? Photographic ability...outstanding. A few NZIPP members as well. Most are slides/transparency shooters. The chairman is digital and trying to drag them into 2006.

[weka2000]

I looked into a couple of clubs but with Sandras work pattern I would miss some get to some to inconsistant for me.

Just brought a off camera shoe want to bake up a flash thingy for my macro and flowers thinking of a ice cream container :lol:

[weka2000]

I looked into a couple of clubs but with Sandras work pattern I would miss some get to some to inconsistant for me.

Just brought a off camera shoe want to bake up a flash thingy for my macro and flowers thinking of a ice cream container :lol:

[joeseph]

I looked into a couple of clubs but with Sandras work pattern I would miss some get to some to inconsistant for me.

Just brought a off camera shoe want to bake up a flash thingy for my macro and flowers thinking of a ice cream container :lol:
you too huh? Ak cam? Emma must be doing well this week.

[tim]

You don't have to go to every club meeting. My club has a new plan, pay a small amount of subs, then pay $5 per meeting. Because of them I found out about a couple of pro-only clubs which are invaluable. GRINZ is one, you guys might be able to join. Google it.

I had thought about joining the local club. My fear is it will be full of old people with far to much time on there hands.

It's not that I don't mind old people, I just wont to hang out with people my own age.

There's a big mix. Find a couple of clubs, go along and see how you like them, join if you like. There must be heaps in Auckland. I've learned a bunch. Like did you know they use to use 8x10" glass plates as negatives? The detail is just frickin amazing. 15 minute exposures. Has to be processed immediately. Makes you realise how easy we have it. The older members often have a lot they can teach you.

[Moppie]

Just brought a off camera shoe want to bake up a flash thingy for my macro and flowers thinking of a ice cream container :lol:


Iv been getting some good results with an Anchor milk bottle :)

[Nzshrimper]

night guys.. got to be up early.... lets hope the weather plays fair tommorow...

[tim]

There are tax advantages to registered clubs I think.

[FlyingPete]

You don't have to go to every club meeting. My club has a new plan, pay a small amount of subs, then pay $5 per meeting. Because of them I found out about a couple of pro-only clubs which are invaluable. GRINZ is one, you guys might be able to join. Google it.



There's a big mix. Find a couple of clubs, go along and see how you like them, join if you like. There must be heaps in Auckland. I've learned a bunch. Like did you know they use to use 8x10" glass plates as negatives? The detail is just frickin amazing. 15 minute exposures. Has to be processed immediately. Makes you realise how easy we have it. The older members often have a lot they can teach you.

There is a local club out Howick way, I used to go along many years back, the interesting thing about that club was the average age - probably 50+ I did feel a little out of place. Did do some good day trips though, and good to go to the evenings and get critique on your shots. Back then though it was all slide and film, I now understand they have fully embraced digital.

BTW, you guys sure do ramble, I step away for a few hours and there is three pages of reading!

[weka2000]

What does a club offer that we dont? We have old men ;)

[NordieBoy]

What does a club offer that we dont? We have old men ;)
Free coffee and biscuits :rolleyes:

[FlyingPete]

Free coffee and biscuits :rolleyes:

You obviously need a formal introduction to the Kodak Box of Brownie :D

[OiPaz]

When I lived in Stanmore Bay I was too lazy to go to a meeting of the North Shore Photographic Society, but I am curious to see what happens there during the fortnighly meetings. I think I'll attend next one. Or maybe I'll go to the meeting of the New Zealand Go Society... who knows! ;)

[OiPaz]

I've been unable to attach file to the messages in this forum since yesterday (at least): I do not have the "Attach" button anymore in the "Additional Options" section of the editor. It's only me or it's some issue of the forum?

[weka2000]

You obviously need a formal introduction to the Kodak Box of Brownie :D

Will they be avaiable tommorow :)

[FlyingPete]

Will they be avaiable tommorow :)

Alas not, Shona is just under 40 weeks pregnant, and we know statistically speaking what happens at 40 weeks! So she is not feeling like baking at the moment :(

[weka2000]

Alas not, Shona is just under 40 weeks pregnant, and we know statistically speaking what happens at 40 weeks! So she is not feeling like baking at the moment :(

Is she comming tommorow, if so we can turn the nurses room into a delivery suite, I think we should have enough lights :lol:

[scotttnz]

Alas not, Shona is just under 40 weeks pregnant, and we know statistically speaking what happens at 40 weeks! So she is not feeling like baking at the moment :(

I can think of a lot of things that happen at 40 weeks......but I can't say because I know Shona reads the forum....

[joeseph]

I've been unable to attach file to the messages in this forum since yesterday (at least): I do not have the "Attach" button anymore in the "Additional Options" section of the editor. It's only me or it's some issue of the forum?

Just as a test, here's one. Also a question for the techies - does anyone know of an automated tool that can identify what I/P address is on a particular Cisco switchport?
I can do this manually by doing a pingsweep to get switches arp table populated then searching the mac-address table but it's awfully tedious when doing a 500 port switch..

to keep this on a photographic basis, here's a photo of a switch. :cool:
106463

possible problem Oipaz: not logged in?

[FlyingPete]

Just as a test, here's one. Also a question for the techies - does anyone know of an automated tool that can identify what I/P address is on a particular Cisco switchport?
I can do this manually by doing a pingsweep to get switches arp table populated then searching the mac-address table but it's awfully tedious when doing a 500 port switch..


I used to use a Spectrum Console to do this. Does the switch ARP table show you what MAC's are attached to each port? You could use a fancy Excel Spreadsheet to do it, I have done MAC matching with Excel before, try this command out:
=LOOKUP(A1,'Sheet2'!A:B) where A1 is the MAC address, and Sheet2 is has the ARP table, column A being the MAC colum2 is the IP. Every time you put a MAC in you it looks up the IP for you!

Oh and here is a photo of a big lens to keep us on topic:
http://www.photoweb.ru/prophoto/biblioteka/Phototeh/tele/1200.jpg

EDIT: Here is one I prepared earlier, it matches MAC address with the Manufacturer Database:
www.lowden.orcon.net.nz/MACs.zip (http://www.lowden.orcon.net.nz/MACs.zip)

[Moppie]

Oh and here is a photo of a big lens to keep us on topic:
http://www.photoweb.ru/prophoto/biblioteka/Phototeh/tele/1200.jpg



Tonys next purchase?

:lol:

[FlyingPete]

Tonys next purchase?

:lol:

Hmmm remember those things are made out of almost pure Unobtainium :rolleyes:

[weka2000]

NEWS UPDATE.... have just come back from a meeting with a Auckland canon distrubter who feel they can give us better prices than AC. I even got a new red and black Canon jacket :lol:

So who wants what

I have asked them for a couple of prices of glass that im after next so we will see if their prices are as sharp as the glass I want. They can also do printers etc. No names of who at the moment untill I know they can do us a deal.

[weka2000]

Tonys next purchase?

:lol:

What a red box with a X in it :p whats that a pin hole lens

[tim]

NEWS UPDATE.... have just come back from a meeting with a Auckland canon distrubter who feel they can give us better prices than AC. I even got a new red and black Canon jacket :lol:

So who wants what

I have asked them for a couple of prices of glass that im after next so we will see if their prices are as sharp as the glass I want. They can also do printers etc. No names of who at the moment untill I know they can do us a deal.

17-55 F2.8 IS with hood.
Interested if they can get Sigma 30mm F1.4

I'd only go with a reputable firm who has and will be around for a while, as I use my equipment to make a living. Unless I saved $100+ i'd probably buy locally.

[weka2000]

17-55 F2.8 IS with hood.
Interested if they can get Sigma 30mm F1.4

I'd only go with a reputable firm who has and will be around for a while, as I use my equipment to make a living. Unless I saved $100+ i'd probably buy locally.

Sigma NO. Canons complete line.Company been around over 15years I have delt with them for nearly 5 for Hardware and software they are big.
Request for quote sent

[theflyingkiwi]

NEWS UPDATE.... have just come back from a meeting with a Auckland canon distrubter who feel they can give us better prices than AC. I even got a new red and black Canon jacket :lol:

So who wants what

I have asked them for a couple of prices of glass that im after next so we will see if their prices are as sharp as the glass I want. They can also do printers etc. No names of who at the moment untill I know they can do us a deal.

a canon jacket, which we then can get embroded on it, GKPE :) and POTN :)

[weka2000]

a canon jacket, which we then can get embroded on it, GKPE :) and POTN :)

Why not go Canon proud sponsers of GKPE :lol:

If canon were smart they would, lets face it were are the perfect group to endorse their stuff. All ages and economic standing. We have Rebel users, 20D/30D users 5D and 1D so we cover their full range.
The average person would listen to us after all we represent the avarage NZ consumer.

We are real, not abunch of snobs who think they are better than anyone else unlike some of these "snobs" who wont even talk to another canon user because the work for some paper.

[tim]

I just got a call from a guy about stock photos, if anyone's interested take a look at their test site. The pricing model is the photographer gets 65% of the sale price, and you can upload premium images that you can set your own price for.

http://pacificphotos.zes.zeald.com/index.html

[Wazza]

Shouldn't the site be a more precise, one, such as stockimages.com or whatever.. To get more hits and google rank?

[weka2000]

I just got a call from a guy about stock photos, if anyone's interested take a look at their test site. The pricing model is the photographer gets 65% of the sale price, and you can upload premium images that you can set your own price for.

http://pacificphotos.zes.zeald.com/index.html

Had a look, im interested. What are the requirements Size, quality etc.
I sent them an e-mail

[scotttnz]

Why not go Canon proud sponsers of GKPE

The truth is more like "GKPE, proud sponsors of Canon!"

[weka2000]

The truth is more like "GKPE, proud sponsors of Canon!"

If we can get a better deal then I dont care who sponsours who.

[FlyingPete]

NEWS UPDATE.... have just come back from a meeting with a Auckland canon distrubter who feel they can give us better prices than AC. I even got a new red and black Canon jacket :lol:

So who wants what

I have asked them for a couple of prices of glass that im after next so we will see if their prices are as sharp as the glass I want. They can also do printers etc. No names of who at the moment untill I know they can do us a deal.

Is this the guys in New North Road, Apix I think, I was in there the other day, the guy I talked to is ex AC, he was under cutting anything AC would do.

[Moppie]

Did anyone seen the POTN July $$$ spent thread?
I think it topped US$250,000 spent by POTN members around the world in the month of July.
And thats only the members who saw the thread and replied.

Members of this forum spend millions every year on photography, Im amazed Canon dosn't at least pay the hosting costs :)


So Tony, got a 30D price?

[MattL]

Shouldn't the site be a more precise, one, such as stockimages.com or whatever.. To get more hits and google rank?

The length of a sites URL has no effect on its google rank... nor would it really have any direct relation to 'getting more hits' aside from people forgetting it because its too long.

Tim also said it was a test site, so perhaps when they launch the system they will have something nice like pacificimages.co.nz

[FlyingPete]

If we can get a better deal then I dont care who sponsours who.

I have a contact that can do branded gear, they have an excellent selection of gear (jackets, hats, shirts etc), they have a minimum order of $100, and have a logo setup fee. I was going to get some stuff done, I was getting three shirts and a jacket for $100!

Remember there are always issues of using the Canon logo though...

[tim]

Shouldn't the site be a more precise, one, such as stockimages.com or whatever.. To get more hits and google rank?

Site is in testing i'm told, live in 2-3 months.

Had a look, im interested. What are the requirements Size, quality etc.
I sent them an e-mail

Minimum 3000 pixels per side, think they want lossless.

[MattL]

what no snow.... how do u cope.....

Wohoo! another snow bunny.

Actually ill be down in CHCH for a few days skiing around the 12th of september, then im heading down to wanaka for another few days.

Will be my first time in the SI. :D

[weka2000]

Is this the guys in New North Road, Apix I think, I was in there the other day, the guy I talked to is ex AC, he was under cutting anything AC would do.

No.