GKPE: General Ramblings thread

[scotttnz]

Just bid $6 for a crappy old, half working EOS 500. No lens though, still looking for one.

[Nzshrimper]

Hmmmm, you are probably gonna want more than I will pay, considering all I want is the lens mount and mirror box.

I actually have an EOS 500 and 28-80 USM I could use, but it seems a shame to break a working one. I would rather pick up a broken one for next to nothing and use that.

fair play.. it does seem such a waste to bust it up.. the project looks fun though but not for i don't have the finger dexterity.

It would drive me insane.. (hang on to late kids have beaten me to that)

[weka2000]

http://www.pbase.com/weka2000/waterfalls_2006 go to Karamatura

Waterfall season started early :lol: . Time to get some tramping boots my shoes I was wearing are destroyed. This is rough country. Mind you not that I ever stick to the track.

Morning best for this area. I went for an explore on the way back from the main falls but the sun blew out the photos even with a GND filter on.

The photos are 1024x??

I went into see the rangers and have a wee chat. Let them know what I was upto and find out what they knew of the area. I really should have someone with me when I go. I take calculated risks but 1 slip and I will be comming out in a body bag. If I broke a leg I wouldnt be able to walk out way to wild gullys.

Let me know what you think of the photos.

[theflyingkiwi]

nice shots there tony. I like k_falls3 the best. I also like k-falls5.jpg as well, but for me personaly I would have gone with a slower shutter speed.

Have you thought about posting these in the landscape section.

do you think your photos are poping like you wont them too?

[weka2000]

do you think your photos are poping like you wont them too?

No not yet. I think they are getting better but this area is a colour nightmare, wazza will agree with that.
I will have a play with CS2 but its a balance. The greens and the browns are so close to each other as in contrast.

Its all the greens, foliage and moss on the rocks. So unsure how to get them to pop.

Falls5 is an amazing area way down stream. It was a water fall in a rock the log is lodged in there and trying to get the balance between highlights and shadows as it was very dark. Biggest bolders I seen and in this part the photo oppotunitys are amazing once the sun dissapears behind the ridge

[theflyingkiwi]

what is it do you think that causing the lack of pop that you are after in your photos. or do you think it's a lack of contrast of green/browns?

or is it a lack of depth?

[dgcorner]

Anyone got a broken old EOS and lens? I'm thinking of doing this:

http://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=198112&highlight=reverse

Scott -- I still have that Canon EF 35-135mm in a gazillion pieces if you want to have a play with it.;)

[weka2000]

what is it do you think that causing the lack of pop that you are after in your photos. or do you think it's a lack of contrast of green/browns?

or is it a lack of depth?

All the colours merge togather so lack of contrast. I try to avoid the green cast, but even the water looks green.

[weka2000]

Wazza I have 2 weeks of free afternoons so you up for some waterfalls :lol:

[theflyingkiwi]

All the colours merge togather so lack of contrast. I try to avoid the green cast, but even the water looks green.

You don't have any colour blindness?

[weka2000]

You don't have any colour blindness?

I have 20/20 vision how would I test colour???

[Nzshrimper]

I have 20/20 vision how would I test colour???


do you remember the cards at school that had the coloured dots on them.. the dots would be of two colours. One of the colours would be in the shape of a number..

if you saw the number than you passed.. ... and were not colour blind..

[FlyingPete]

do you remember the cards at school that had the coloured dots on them.. the dots would be of two colours. One of the colours would be in the shape of a number..

if you saw the number than you passed.. ... and were not colour blind..
Like these?
http://ricksaphire.com/colorblind/45.jpghttp://ricksaphire.com/colorblind/5.jpghttp://ricksaphire.com/colorblind/12.jpg

[weka2000]

do you remember the cards at school that had the coloured dots on them.. the dots would be of two colours. One of the colours would be in the shape of a number..

if you saw the number than you passed.. ... and were not colour blind..

Nah black and white going from larger to smaller ;) close one eye
45,5,12 Did I pass???

[theflyingkiwi]

I have 20/20 vision how would I test colour???

go here (http://www.toledo-bend.com/colorblind/Ishihara.html) You should be able to see numbers in the circles :)

normaly you should be able to see the following
Left Right
Top 25 29
Middle 45 56
Bottom 6 8

but I can see the following
Left Right
Top 25 29
Middle spots 56
Bottom spots spots

[theflyingkiwi]

Like these?
http://ricksaphire.com/colorblind/45.jpghttp://ricksaphire.com/colorblind/5.jpghttp://ricksaphire.com/colorblind/12.jpg

I can see spots, spots and the number 12. I am green (I think) color blind. I can see green and I can see shades of green, but bright green and yellow, I can see the differences when they are side by side, just don't ask me which one is which. It fun being at school, class mates always asked what colour is this, grrrr I hate it.

[theflyingkiwi]

Hye, whens the next GKPE meet?

Today my brother got a 400D + kit and the 70-300 for 2K from havey normons today. It a nice camera and good for those just starting out.

[Nzshrimper]

lol the merc on top gear .. curise control by radar,,,, digitial tv its a house.. not a car.. infrared..

welcome MR Bond..

[weka2000]

To give you an idea of the size of rock the rock at the top is resting on the edge above is 10ft high

I could just get under not a lot of room but I saw a frame :)
I was composting a shot of the area when these people turned up for a swim and a little boy walked in front of me and my view.
Little S**T. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[theflyingkiwi]

lol the merc on top gear .. curise control by radar,,,, digitial tv its a house.. not a car.. infrared..

welcome MR Bond..

Yes, nothing like a car doing all the work for ya. I am sure the next S class will drive itself :) I can believe tho that the car can give you a massage. That car would make me fall a sleep

nice BMW M5 tho, I would have one of those :)

[Nzshrimper]

Yes, nothing like a car doing all the work for ya. I am sure the next S class will drive itself :) I can believe tho that the car can give you a massage. That car would make me fall a sleep

nice BMW M5 tho, I would have one of those :) i can see the woman driving this and being able to put on the make up .. with the the sat nav never get lost too..

the new s class a womans dream..

nah give me a defender 110 with the kit.. ill be happy.. or an F340..

not fussy...

[Nzshrimper]

interior design .. i've seen this on the net.. its bloody funny --

[theflyingkiwi]

yea it just proves that Jermey has no style what so ever. I mean who would put concert in a car

[Nzshrimper]

yea it just proves that Jermey has no style what so ever. I mean who would put concert in a car

snoop dog.. for the concert..

Jeremy for the concrete

[theflyingkiwi]

haha, good point. POTN does't have a spell checker :(

[Nzshrimper]

haha, good point. POTN does't have a spell checker :(
download the internet spell checker.. and you get a spell checker on POTN.

[tag141]

The Lexus IS400 has that breaking thingy. A friend had a test (he works for Toyota) and was doing 100+ and came across a tractor. The Lexus braked hard and kept a good distance from the tractor. He was well impressed.

Good to hear the hampster is making good progress.

[weka2000]

download the internet spell checker.. and you get a spell checker on POTN.

Got a link :)

[scotttnz]

Hye, whens the next GKPE meet?

Today my brother got a 400D + kit and the 70-300 for 2K from havey normons today. It a nice camera and good for those just starting out.

Next big day out is scheduled for the weekend of the 4th/5th of November, but we haven't done any planning for it yet. Only 6 weeks away. Anyone have any ideas?

[Nzshrimper]

Got a link :)
yep just finding it now. may not work for the dark side thou (mac users).. but they have the force anyway..

[Nzshrimper]

http://www.simtel.net/product.download.mirrors.php?id=95413

its called ie spell..

[FlyingPete]

Hye, whens the next GKPE meet?

Today my brother got a 400D + kit and the 70-300 for 2K from havey normons today. It a nice camera and good for those just starting out.


I did an events calendar a while back, not sure if it went this far, will check...

So is it:
GKPE IV Reloaded - The lesser mountains of Auckland (on a fine day!)

or

GKPE V - OK need some help here ideas please :o

EDIT: Next one is 4 November (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=127033)

[FlyingPete]

http://www.simtel.net/product.download.mirrors.php?id=95413

its called ie spell..

Google tool bar does spelling, that is what I use!

[scotttnz]

GKPE V - Auckland Camera Raid.....no wait, we did that last time....

[Nzshrimper]

Google tool bar does spelling, that is what I use!

true but i dont trust the google tool bar.. its had a few bugs that seem to be attacked every now and again..

[FlyingPete]

true but i dont trust the google tool bar.. its had a few bugs that seem to be attacked every now and again..


Attacked, really? I thought that was just Microsoft stuff ;)

[FlyingPete]

GKPE V - Auckland Camera Raid.....no wait, we did that last time....

GKPE V - Tonys Gear Raid

Almost as good as Auckland Camera :D

[scotttnz]

We gotta do the table shot again soon. Only we need a bigger more sturdy table this time!

[scotttnz]

1000!!

[FlyingPete]

We gotta do the table shot again soon. Only we need a bigger more sturdy table this time!

We must have at least four big lenses all of the same type, I think the 70-200 f/2.8 is a likely candidate, the Sigma should be the same size as the Canons, I know we have at least three Canons and one Sigma :D

1000!!

Congrats!:D

Many moons ago when I first joined up, Senior membership was 500 posts, but then some nasty person exploited a weakness on the forum software, hacked in stole all our email addresses and Pekka had to change the software :rolleyes: Anyone else remember that?

[weka2000]

Next big day out is scheduled for the weekend of the 4th/5th of November, but we haven't done any planning for it yet. Only 6 weeks away. Anyone have any ideas?

Whatipu to piha

[theflyingkiwi]

Whatipu to piha

where to where????

[Nzshrimper]

Whatipu to piha
is that date in concrete,, if so i will arrange flights...

congrats on the 1000 scotttnz...

[downunder]

Got my 70 -200 back from Canon and there was no charge! and they couriered it to me for free as well !! great service,

[Nzshrimper]

Got my 70 -200 back from Canon and there was no charge! and they couriered it to me for free as well !! great service,
thats good of them ... did they what caused it..

[tim]

Guys, I need to get myself perhaps a dozen reusable white matts, to show customers their wedding images. Instead of seeing their photos on the net 600px wide or on a DVD i'll get a dozen prints done and put them in the temporary matts for them to see. I think i'll put them on an eisel one by one.

Anyone know a good source for matts? I'll either be matting 5x7 or 6x9 images, and i'd want a couple of inches of matt on each side. White or just off white (antique white). I don't know a reasonably priced source here in Wellington.

[NordieBoy]

:shock: Did you see what that 70-200 f2.8 went for?

$1300 buy now!

[Nzshrimper]

:shock: Did you see what that 70-200 f2.8 went for?

$1300 buy now!
you r joking...

[downunder]

thats good of them ... did they what caused it..

No they didn't, and i am assuming it has been repaired ok. time will tell

[Nzshrimper]

:shock: Did you see what that 70-200 f2.8 went for?

$1300 buy now!

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Film-cameras/35mm-zoom/auction-71415783.htm

he has another lens for sale. a CANON EF 28-70mm f2.8 ULTRASONIC WITH MACRO

funny he has the same description on this one as he had with the 70-200

[downunder]

Guys, I need to get myself perhaps a dozen reusable white matts, to show customers their wedding images. Instead of seeing their photos on the net 600px wide or on a DVD i'll get a dozen prints done and put them in the temporary matts for them to see. I think i'll put them on an eisel one by one.

Anyone know a good source for matts? I'll either be matting 5x7 or 6x9 images, and i'd want a couple of inches of matt on each side. White or just off white (antique white). I don't know a reasonably priced source here in Wellington.

I use a local picture framing company, but not sure if they have the thicker matt boards that u use. will find out and let you know.

[NordieBoy]

It's about time for another famous GKPE-FC so #7 is here...
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2029316#post2029316

Theme is "RUSTY".

[scotttnz]

Guys, I need to get myself perhaps a dozen reusable white matts, to show customers their wedding images. Instead of seeing their photos on the net 600px wide or on a DVD i'll get a dozen prints done and put them in the temporary matts for them to see. I think i'll put them on an eisel one by one.

Anyone know a good source for matts? I'll either be matting 5x7 or 6x9 images, and i'd want a couple of inches of matt on each side. White or just off white (antique white). I don't know a reasonably priced source here in Wellington.

I've got mats from these guys:

http://www.factoryframes.co.nz/

I got a custom size (About 18x10" I think) for a big frame, can't remember the size, 22x16" or something like that for $15. They cut it while I wait. I haven't really shopped around for mats, but their frames are very reasonable.

Dunno if they ship out of town, but I can organise that for you if they can't.

[weka2000]

where to where????

Its a little walk, have you seen the state of some of our members ;)
Get a map :p

[tim]

Scott, i'll drop them an email, thanks for the offer if they don't ship :)

[weka2000]

It's about time for another famous GKPE-FC so #7 is here...
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2029316#post2029316

Theme is "RUSTY".

for a second it looked like BUSTY then I scrolled down :p

[Nzshrimper]

for a second it looked like BUSTY then I scrolled down :p
one track mind... ;)

[Wazza]

I use factory frames too.

If you use ones from their show bins, they're much cheaper. Say a 6x4" cut, for a 6x8" frame, will cost $1, plus $1 for the acid free backing.

I also buy their standard 14x11" frame size with a 40mm border, which will fit a 12x8" print in it (long wise, it's cut more than the short side)

[joeseph]

are ya all tired of baby pics yet? :-)
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=219403

[FlyingPete]

I use factory frames too.

If you use ones from their show bins, they're much cheaper. Say a 6x4" cut, for a 6x8" frame, will cost $1, plus $1 for the acid free backing.

I also buy their standard 14x11" frame size with a 40mm border, which will fit a 12x8" print in it (long wise, it's cut more than the short side)


I'll put it a third bump for Factory Frames :D

[weka2000]

one track mind... ;)

Some people notice 4 wheels and drool :p
The rest of you notice but just wont admit it. Beat you all have sunglasses :)

[Moppie]

Man you guys can talk!!

Im busy on the 4th and 5th November, its Guy Fawlks remember :)

[scotttnz]

Man you guys can talk!!

Im busy on the 4th and 5th November, its Guy Fawlks remember :)

Guy Fawkes, sounds like a perfect photographic opportunity. Afternoon shoot, followed by BBQ, followed by fireworks. Some can light them while the rest shoot them. Bring the family!

[FlyingPete]

Guy Fawkes, sounds like a perfect photographic opportunity. Afternoon shoot, followed by BBQ, followed by fireworks. Some can light them while the rest shoot them. Bring the family!

Hmmm do the mountains at night then as well :D

[FlyingPete]

Ah first day on new contract at a little kiwi bases aviation business, I am logged on and ready to go, but boss is running late, oh well I will just have to read about Airplanes on the intranet...

A380 has been delayed again...

[Moppie]

Guy Fawkes, sounds like a perfect photographic opportunity. Afternoon shoot, followed by BBQ, followed by fireworks. Some can light them while the rest shoot them. Bring the family!



Sounds like fun!
Infact its exactly what I will be doing down on a friends farm.
Spent all day yesterday pulling bramble trees out of a gully to form the base of the bonfire.

[FlyingPete]

Sounds like fun!
Infact its exactly what I will be doing down on a friends farm.
Spent all day yesterday pulling bramble trees out of a gully to form the base of the bonfire.

GKPE V - Moppies friends farm ;)

[scotttnz]

GKPE V - Moppies friends farm ;)

GKPE Five - Moppie's Friends Farm For Fireworks.

Sorry Moppie, we need to change you name to something begining with F!

[Moppie]

How about "Moppies Mates Meat Manufactoring Market, for Massive Munitions."?

I could take an extra 2 or 3 people out, but a full GKPE group might be a bit much, its only a small farm :8

[tim]

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[CliveyBoy]

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[weka2000]

wazza have you done the kitekite falls all the way up?
When do you have a free afternoon this week?

[weka2000]

Weka's definition of Guy Fawkes

"A bunch of people who celebrate a failed act of terroism based on religious and political issues"

These days we condem such acts

Sorry it is one of those sore points with me, where people gloryify something they know nothing about yet condem the acts today commited for the very same reasons Guy commited his.

I will be passing on the "celebrations" personally it should be banned :evil:

[FlyingPete]

Weka's definition of Guy Fawkes

"A bunch of people who celebrate a failed act of terroism based on religious and political issues"

These days we condem such acts

Sorry it is one of those sore points with me, where people gloryify something they know nothing about yet condem the acts today commited for the very same reasons Guy commited his.

I will be passing on the "celebrations" personally it should be banned :evil:

Actually it is the celebration of the burning (execution) of the terrorist (Guy Fawkes), hence the bonfire, and later fireworks.

[theflyingkiwi]

Weka's definition of Guy Fawkes

"A bunch of people who celebrate a failed act of terroism based on religious and political issues"

These days we condem such acts

Sorry it is one of those sore points with me, where people gloryify something they know nothing about yet condem the acts today commited for the very same reasons Guy commited his.

I will be passing on the "celebrations" personally it should be banned :evil:

Eather way for what ever reason why we have it. I can asure you that I wont be taking any part in it. As a kid our family never celebrated it and now as an adult I think it's a waste of time and more importanly money.

The same for that holloween crap that seems to have taken off in this country.

[FlyingPete]

The same for that holloween crap that seems to have taken off in this country.

Halloween will probably eventually take over from Guy Fawkes, then in the tradition of Americanism we will begin to celebrate the 4th of July...

<Rant On> Ban Halloween! Every year we get a bunch of kids with some half assed attempt or no attempt at all at dressing up showing up at our door demanding treats. Had my motorbike talcum powerdered one year because we didn't have any treats, took months to get all that stuff off. Bike smelled of baby power for even longer (not a macho look for a biker :rolleyes: ).
<Rant Off>

And now back to our scheduled program...

[theflyingkiwi]

Halloween will probably eventually take over from Guy Fawkes, then in the tradition of Americanism we will begin to celebrate the 4th of July...

<Rant On> Ban Halloween! Every year we get a bunch of kids with some half assed attempt or no attempt at all at dressing up showing up at our door demanding treats. Had my motorbike talcum powerdered one year because we didn't have any treats, took months to get all that stuff off. Bike smelled of baby power for even longer (not a macho look for a biker :rolleyes: ).
<Rant Off>

And now back to our scheduled program...

yea I would be interesting to see what happens regarding the 4th of July. While it's important to the US it means nothing to us. Each year I put a sign on my front door saying this is a holloween free house.

However that story is funny :lol:

[FlyingPete]

However that story is funny :lol:

I had a few comments on the smell from service stations about it, as it was particularly noticeable when the bike warmed up, it really was that bad, despite the bike being jet black with red trim (Ninja750), still got asked why I was riding a girls bike :o

[scotttnz]

<Rant On>Hey, lets ban Christmas, Easter, and Birthdays too! (You know Christmas and Easter are based on some pagan festivals!) This is cool, I hate it when people, especially children have fun! No more New Years Party's, School Holidays, or weekends.

I'm going to have to confiscate all your cameras unfortunately, you are all having far too much fun with them.

Kinda agree on the Halloween, but lighten up people! Yeah, fireworks are a waste of money, but no more than a camera or lens that doesn't get used professionally to make more money. As long as someone get enjoyment out of it, so what.<Rant Off>

I bought some fireworks last year that never got let off because Daniel got Pneumonia the week before Guy Fawkes. So we don't need to buy any this year. Hope they are still OK.

[NordieBoy]

The Wakefield Domain Fireworks in Nelson is being held 1 week before Guy Fawkes so people can't bring their own stuff.
Oh and they're not having a bonfire.

Can anyone say "Political Correctness gone MAD!"

This is an event that's been happening annually for over 52 years.

I don't think there'll be many at this years one though.

[theflyingkiwi]

<Rant On>Hey, lets ban Christmas, Easter, and Birthdays too! (You know Christmas and Easter are based on some pagan festivals!) This is cool, I hate it when people, especially children have fun! No more New Years Party's, School Holidays, or weekends.

I'm going to have to confiscate all your cameras unfortunately, you are all having far too much fun with them.

Kinda agree on the Halloween, but lighten up people! Yeah, fireworks are a waste of money, but no more than a camera or lens that doesn't get used professionally to make more money. As long as someone get enjoyment out of it, so what.<Rant Off>

I bought some fireworks last year that never got let off because Daniel got Pneumonia the week before Guy Fawkes. So we don't need to buy any this year. Hope they are still OK.

Hey I like that idea. I think we should ban anything that really doesn't make any sence. Birthdays are ok cause that makes sence. New Year yea I can let that one pass. Christmas and Easter, well if that's your religon then you can clebrate that too. School holidays, well i hate it when the kids are down town, but it makes it safer to bike to work so that should be fine. Gee weekends now that tough, but it makes sence to have a break from work.

however everything else should be baned! it's all wrong I tell ya. :) :lol: :lol:

for the fireworks brought from last year, I would think as long as they have been stored in a dry place they should be fine. Do they have an expirey date?

[scotttnz]

Hey I like that idea. I think we should ban anything that really doesn't make any sence. Birthdays are ok cause that makes sence. New Year yea I can let that one pass. Christmas and Easter, well if that's your religon then you can clebrate that too. School holidays, well i hate it when the kids are down town, but it makes it safer to bike to work so that should be fine. Gee weekends now that tough, but it makes sence to have a break from work.

however everything else should be baned! it's all wrong I tell ya. :) :lol: :lol:

for the fireworks brought from last year, I would think as long as they have been stored in a dry place they should be fine. Do they have an expirey date?

So you're happy with banning photography, except for paid professional stuff that makes money? OK hand over you cameras, I'll look after them for you all:)

[theflyingkiwi]

So you're happy with banning photography, except for paid professional stuff that makes money? OK hand over you cameras, I'll look after them for you all:)

errr umm I am a pro don't know. a pro at not using it :) does that count. what about if I say that it's covered in cobwebs? do you still wont it ? :)

and by the way

"Political Correctness has gone MAD!"

btw can you all guess that I am bored at work

[FlyingPete]

So you're happy with banning photography, except for paid professional stuff that makes money? OK hand over you cameras, I'll look after them for you all:)

Actually than means we all have to hand out gear over to Tim and Wazza :rolleyes:

[weka2000]

Dont get me started on xmas :evil:

Ok found out that my White Balance is off on my waterfall photos. Did some tests and hello a couple of changes and I get the pop and greens and browns are much better.

Will re do yesterdays and post.

Went and got a couple of CS2 books and a new pair of tramping boots from Katmandu, they had a secial on down from $300 to $150 :lol:

[theflyingkiwi]

how did you figure that the white balance is out?

[scotttnz]

Anyone else going to join me at Howick Camera Club tonight? It's digital night tonight, so maybe they will show us how to make a zimmer frame mount for a digital camera.

[Wazza]

That was a fun day..

D2NZ on Saturday, and Westpac Helicopter aerial shots today over Firth of Thames.

Saw the new helicopter being built.
The old one BK 117 I flew in, they've stripped it, replacing the motor with one with more torque, same RPM speed, so more load lifting capabilities, and will be changed over on 18th December. This will leave 2 Westpac choppers in colours around that week, so will convince them to do a shot of both while they're available.

Still another 4 1/4 hours on my other job (after I was over an hour late, coming from Ardmore)

[Nzshrimper]

Halloween will probably eventually take over from Guy Fawkes, then in the tradition of Americanism we will begin to celebrate the 4th of July...

<Rant On> Ban Halloween! Every year we get a bunch of kids with some half assed attempt or no attempt at all at dressing up showing up at our door demanding treats. Had my motorbike talcum powerdered one year because we didn't have any treats, took months to get all that stuff off. Bike smelled of baby power for even longer (not a macho look for a biker :rolleyes: ).
<Rant Off>

And now back to our scheduled program...

give the little bastards laxatives works a treat.. they think yum sweets .. then oh need a $hit.....

[Nzshrimper]

may be thats just the evil side of me..

:D

[FlyingPete]

may be thats just the evil side of me..

:D

No you are learning :twisted: Perhaps we can open a southern branch!

[weka2000]

how did you figure that the white balance is out?

Had a play and changed to shade brought out the browns. Im still far from happy.

I think I need to take 2 exposures 1) for the waterfall itself and the 2) for the rock and foliage.

Wazza how do you expose for the Waitaks?

[scotttnz]

That one looks good Tony. Colour is nice, good forground interest, but.......I would have put the waterfall off centre (But you already knew that, didn't you?)

[weka2000]

That one looks good Tony. Colour is nice, good forground interest, but.......I would have put the waterfall off centre (But you already knew that, didn't you?)


Grasshoper follow the bottom right rock with your eye and where does it lead...to the waterfall. Leading lines and it follows the rule of thirds :) IMHO
Remember I compose with out the thought of cropping later.

Colours are still way out (greens dont pop)

[scotttnz]

Grasshoper follow the bottom right rock with your eye and where does it lead...to the waterfall. Leading lines and it follows the rule of thirds :) IMHO
Remember I compose with out the thought of cropping later.

Yes the leading lines are good, but I don't see any thirds. I really like the forground, but the rest is still a bit bland. The stick is a little distracting too (just a little, I am being picky!) Wife suggests cropping about a quarter off the top (maybe a little less than a quarter), and I think that might help.

Ahhhh.....it is so easy to criticise.....anytime you want me to go back to saying "nice shot Tony" just say so. But this is all good for my post count:) And remember, you don't have to agree with me.

By the way, please feel free to offer critisism of any shots I post, I will try not to be defensive as i wat to learn and improve as well. That goes for everyone, not just Tony.

[weka2000]

Ahhhh.....it is so easy to criticise.....anytime you want me to go back to saying "nice shot Tony" just say so. But this is all good for my post count:) And remember, you don't have to agree with me..

People who say "thats nice" show me that they lack a brain and the ability to understand anything about photography. "Thats nice" reminds me of the joke about the southern bell who married into money and her husband sent her to finishing school "Thats nice" when she said it had a very different meaning :rolleyes:

I expect you (everyone) to pick holes in my photos. Just dont pick on the photographer :cool:

Oh the stck stays as I try not to touch the scene I leave the bush as I found it.

[scotttnz]

People who say "thats nice" show me that they lack a brain and the ability to understand anything about photography. "Thats nice" reminds me of the joke about the southern bell who married into money and her husband sent her to finishing school "Thats nice" when she said it had a very different meaning :rolleyes:

I expect you (everyone) to pick holes in my photos. Just dont pick on the photographer :cool:

Oh the stck stays as I try not to touch the scene I leave the bush as I found it.

Cool. I am never attacking you. I admire your dedication and drive in getting out and taking photos and then posting them for us to critique.

The stick looks like it would be difficult to move even if you wanted too.

This is how I would compose it:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a310/scotttnz/k-falls1.jpg

[NordieBoy]

My interpera - intrept - version going by the 3rds "rule", would be more like this...

[Moppie]

I prefer the orginal.
The rock fills the 1/3 rule, and leads your eye towards the falls, which is allowed to break the rules because it can.

[forsaken]

rules were made to be broken.

If everyone followed the so 'rule of thirds' then everything would begin to look the same. Sure I agree that it does have its place but it shouldn't overshadow creativity.

out of all those recomposed shots I still prefer the original because you can see what tony was thinking when he took the shot. Scotts rework makes the rock seem like the suject. Frans version is not to bad but still the original has more . . . oomph for want of a better word

[weka2000]

rules were made to be broken.

just look at speed limits :)

May it never be you who speeds and kills my family, some rules are there to protect. Drunk drivers and speedsters should be put up against a wall and shot. To many people have lost those they love to people who think that rules are meant to be broken :evil:

[NordieBoy]

I feel the waterfall leads you to the rock :p

[scotttnz]

Thank goodness the rule of third being broken does not lead to dead people! There would be nobody left! Some rules are OK to break but I'm with Tony on speeding.

The trouble I have with the original is that there is nothing on the left to balance it. Different stokes for different folks.

Right, I'm off tho the Howick Camera Club see you in a few hours. I'm still wondering why nobody else takes their camera to the camera club.......am I strange?

[Nzshrimper]

just my take .. cropped a little of the top .. left the fore ground (i like the fore ground and the stick) and used color balance on the green.

[weka2000]

just my take .. cropped a little of the top .. left the fore ground (i like the fore ground and the stick) and used color balance on the green.

Explain what you did please that looks way better

[Moppie]

Hmmmm, speeding is a touchy subject around me.

Speed dosb't kill, its the sudden stop that does the damage.
The problem with NZ drivers is not them breaking the speed limit, its driving to fast for the road, the car, and 90% of the time, the drivers ablity to control the car, and thier awareness of other drivers.

Drunk drivers should be shot on sight though. Start with a leg wound, and work your way up for each offence.

[NordieBoy]

The trouble I have with the original is that there is nothing on the left to balance it. Different stokes for different folks.
I prefer my 1st version with a shorter top but it's too short to be a 3rd :)
Too much empty space on the left and the big "V" of sky is dead centre as well so I wanted to chop as much of that out as possible. Also the bit of stone protuding into the bottom right dosn't add to the pic so it's gone as well.
Then just levels, saturation and a bit of contrast.

Right, I'm off tho the Howick Camera Club see you in a few hours. I'm still wondering why nobody else takes their camera to the camera club.......am I strange?
Do you really want us to answer that? :D

[theflyingkiwi]

Tony, I like the change to the photograph. Even tho I haven't been there I think the colour of the rocks is more natual. That light meter you got, does that help at all ? Scott is right about that log tho it's in the way

As for the rule of 1/3, while I understand it I can never figure it out in a photograph. I just crop a photo, or frame a photo untill it looks right. weather or not that follows the 1/3 rule I really don't care. The interesting thing about that is the average viewer doesn't understand these.

Anyway I have just ordered a couple of things from B&H, a camera mount that I should be able to use on a car :) and a bracket to use for macro photography.

[forsaken]

my best photo from the cruise out to Piha on the weekend

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1601/944371/1745642/190315040.jpg

[forsaken]

they were yummy to

[Nzshrimper]

Explain what you did please that looks way better
lol thats a first .. i am normally being told off. ;)

the crop was just a crop..

the color enhancements i used.

Image - Adjustments - color balance. move the sider toward cyan to -11
then the second slider to green +7
i left the third slider alone.

this seem to blue up the water and green the foliage..

[scotttnz]

Hmmmm, speeding is a touchy subject around me.

Speed dosb't kill, its the sudden stop that does the damage.
The problem with NZ drivers is not them breaking the speed limit, its driving to fast for the road, the car, and 90% of the time, the drivers ablity to control the car, and thier awareness of other drivers.

Drunk drivers should be shot on sight though. Start with a leg wound, and work your way up for each offence.

The trouble is that you cannot leave it up to the individual driver to decide how fast he is able to safely drive in any given set of conditions. Obviously people overestimate their own\the cars\road conditions or we wouldn't have the problems we have. Which is why we have speed limits.

"Good drivers" in "good cars" have accidents all the time, and I am not silly enough to think it will never hapen to me because "I am better than them."

My parting shot.....

[weka2000]

Here lays the answer http://ronbigelow.com/articles/waterfalls-3/waterfalls-3.htm

I also wonder if I need to use my focus points more rather than center focus.

Oh his website has some really good articles.

[forsaken]

oh crap I just realised my image is centered :(


must have to recompose it.








ah well I'm off for my weekly drive to glenfield to find out that training has once again been cancelled

[Nzshrimper]

Hmmmm, speeding is a touchy subject around me.

Speed dosb't kill, its the sudden stop that does the damage.
The problem with NZ drivers is not them breaking the speed limit, its driving to fast for the road, the car, and 90% of the time, the drivers ablity to control the car, and thier awareness of other drivers.

Drunk drivers should be shot on sight though. Start with a leg wound, and work your way up for each offence.
a bullet to the head first offence.. stop drink driving there and then. ban carparks from pubs also may help. As for speeding.. hmm go the German way in the city and built up areas 20 kph.. huge fines if you break the rules. motorways no limit. German roads are the safest in Europe. as for the cars we let kids drive.. well what do expect give a kid an wrx and they will rally drive with it.. make insurance compulsory and link it to the car.. then these cheap imports cant be driven by the little boys. ;)

[weka2000]

lol thats a first .. i am normally being told off. ;)

the crop was just a crop..

the color enhancements i used.

Image - Adjustments - color balance. move the sider toward cyan to -11
then the second slider to green +7
i left the third slider alone.

this seem to blue up the water and green the foliage..

What did you use? I cant find colour enhancement in CS2?
PS Im teasing :)

[NordieBoy]

Scott is right about that log tho it's in the way

As for the rule of 1/3, while I understand it I can never figure it out in a photograph. I just crop a photo, or frame a photo untill it looks right. weather or not that follows the 1/3 rule I really don't care. The interesting thing about that is the average viewer doesn't understand these.

I like the log :D

Just had a closer look at my avatar.
I cropped it to just look right and it seems to actually follow the "rule".

Some shots look good with the rule applied and some look good anyway.

[Nzshrimper]

What did you use? I cant find colour enhancement in CS2?
Be specfic :p

:p :p :p
I'll show you anyway

Image (third tab on top tool bar)

Adjustments (second option on drop down menu)

color balance (sixth option on the second drop down menu)



or press CTRL + B (shortcut)

[NordieBoy]

A shot from Sunday for TKRFAN :D







Damn! Just realised it follows the 1/3rds - HELP!

[weka2000]

I think I will try bracketing my shots next time I go out to waterfalls. 1)blur the water 2) shadows/dark rock 3)greeen foliage mask and blend in CS2

[theflyingkiwi]

a bullet to the head first offence.. stop drink driving there and then. ban carparks from pubs also may help. As for speeding.. hmm go the German way in the city and built up areas 20 kph.. huge fines if you break the rules. motorways no limit. German roads are the safest in Europe. as for the cars we let kids drive.. well what do expect give a kid an wrx and they will rally drive with it.. make insurance compulsory and link it to the car.. then these cheap imports cant be driven by the little boys. ;)

I also think that one of the thing that should also happens is change the size of the engine and how much kw it can have for those under 25. As you said a kid and go out and get the money for a wrx, modify the thing so it can't handle any more in any conditions. they go out on a friday nite and bingo, they are drunk and drive like they know how.

[Nzshrimper]

PS Im teasing :)


ok i now taking my ball and going home.. :p so there..

[Nzshrimper]

I also think that one of the thing that should also happens is change the size of the engine and how much kw it can have for those under 25. As you said a kid and go out and get the money for a wrx, modify the thing so it can't handle any more in any conditions. they go out on a friday nite and bingo, they are drunk and drive like they know how.

in the UK it cost a 1000 pounds + to insure a 1000cc ford fiesta, if you modify it then you are looking at double that... if i was 18 and had an wrx. then i would be looking at 9000 pounds + if i could find an insurance company to touch it..

my escort cossie in the uk with a 5 years no claims bonus and 10 years accident free driving, i was 28 and it still cost 2k to insure. makes you think twice before you hit 140 mph on the motorway..

[theflyingkiwi]

in the UK it cost a 1000 pounds + to insure a 1000cc ford fiesta, if you modify it then you are looking at double that... if i was 18 and had an wrx. then i would be looking at 9000 pounds + if i could find an insurance company to touch it..

my escort cossie in the uk with a 5 years no claims bonus and 10 years accident free driving, i was 28 and it still cost 2k to insure. makes you think twice before you hit 140 mph on the motorway..

where do you think I got the idea from

anyway to change the subject back to photography. I look and nordies photograph above and I can't figure out how it follows the 1/3 rule :(

[Nzshrimper]

where do you think I got the idea from

anyway to change the subject back to photography. I look and nordies photograph above and I can't figure out how it follows the 1/3 rule :(
maybe the karter was 3rd in the race.. ;)

[tag141]

Drink drivers, take their cars off them for a minimum of 12 months and fine them a minimum of say $1000. No excuses. Speeding? Why on earth do they make cars to go over 100kph anyway? It's not that you are really allowed to travel over that speed is it.

Shrimper...a Cossie Escort...mmmmmmmm, Did it have the picnic table hanging off the rear hatch?

[Nzshrimper]

Drink drivers, take their cars off them for a minimum of 12 months and fine them a minimum of say $1000. No excuses. Speeding? Why on earth do they make cars to go over 100kph anyway? It's not that you are really allowed to travel over that speed is it.

Shrimper...a Cossie Escort...mmmmmmmm, Did it have the picnic table hanging off the rear hatch?

nah that whale fin came off. i hated the rear spoiler.. so i got a custom smaller one made// lost a little down force on the track but at 70 mph worked fine... ;)

[Nzshrimper]

Speeding? Why on earth do they make cars to go over 100kph anyway? It's not that you are really allowed to travel over that speed is it.


if a car travels at 100 kph past a school and a kid steps out.. even if the car is limited to 100 kph the end is sure to happen..

its the not the car - the error is between the steering wheel and the chair.

[NordieBoy]

I look and nordies photograph above and I can't figure out how it follows the 1/3 rule :(

It's not a strict interpretation :D

The helmet is (amost) on a 1/3rd intersection and the 3 wheels are along the bottom 1/3rd line and the front points down to another intersetion.

It's like the Pirates Code - More of a guideline :D

[MHP]

sometimes

[MHP]

still lost with the cart rules

[Nzshrimper]

last orders for the external HHD - $230 +pp for a seagate 320 gb

[downunder]

Had a play and changed to shade brought out the browns. Im still far from happy.

I think I need to take 2 exposures 1) for the waterfall itself and the 2) for the rock and foliage.

Had a bit of a play with your pic hope thats ok

[tim]

With anything moving you can use the rule of thirds, but IMHO it's more important to leave space for the subject to move into. ie in that cart picture i'd crop it so there's more space on the left than the right. But the base of the cart along the bottom horizontal of the rule of thirds.

[MHP]

last orders for the external HHD - $230 +pp for a seagate 320 gb

yeah - 1 here please. let me know when you want the $ and how etc.

[MHP]

Had a bit of a play with your pic hope thats ok

aliens!!

[Nzshrimper]

Originally Posted by downunder
Had a bit of a play with your pic hope thats ok

hmm looks very feminine..

MHP yep no worries.... i had you down allready.. :)

[scotttnz]

hmmmmm.....I think I have given the camera club with no cameras a decent go.....don't think it is for me. Been 3 times and I'm going to call it quits. Shame, I wanted to like it, but I think I would learn more about photography by spending the time out taking photos, or surfing POTN. And you guys are friendlier than them too.

I am however going to be like Tony and insist that you rip any photos I post to threads. I need critique to learn.

[Nzshrimper]

hmmmmm.....I think I have given the camera club with no cameras a decent go.....don't think it is for me. Been 3 times and I'm going to call it quits. Shame, I wanted to like it, but I think I would learn more about photography by spending the time out taking photos, or surfing POTN. And you guys are friendlier than them too.

I am however going to be like Tony and insist that you rip any photos I post to threads. I need critique to learn.
well at least you gave it a go..

[FlyingPete]

GKPE V - Is the current date OK?

Originally when planning the calender, we thought every three months will do picked a pattern out of the air and applied it. Worked fine except that I didn't realise at the time that GKPE V was the same weekend as Guy Fawkes.

Now the question is, should we change the date? Many of us here have or will have other plans that night, especially those with families, I for one now have three things on that Saturday :rolleyes:

How I see it we have four options:
1. Keep it on that date and risk poor attendance
2. Go for the Sunday
3. The Saturday before ( October 28 )
4. The Saturday after ( November 11 )

Thoughts everyone?

[Nzshrimper]

GKPE V - Is the current date OK?

Originally when planning the calender, we thought every three months will do picked a pattern out of the air and applied it. Worked fine except that I didn't realise at the time that GKPE V was the same weekend as Guy Fawkes.

Now the question is, should we change the date? Many of us here have or will have other plans that night, especially those with families, I for one now have three things on that Saturday :rolleyes:

How I see it we have four options:
1. Keep it on that date and risk poor attendance
2. Go for the Sunday
3. The Saturday before ( October 28 )
4. The Saturday after ( November 11 )

Thoughts everyone?

1 change the date no point if no one turns up..
2. erm Sunday.. hangover from the night before may hurt.
3. week before sounds good (need to check flights)
4. November 11 (nah daughters birthday and remembrance day)( however if the 11th suits the majority then so be it. I'll just appear another time ;) )

[Moppie]

I think we should look at changing the date, its not really a big GKPE if only a couple of people show up.

The sunday is out, no way am I going to be in any kind of state to do lots of moving around after Guy Fawkes.

So either weekend around that date is so far fine with me.

[Wazza]

I'm out every Sunday, and not so sure about the dates. Originally the Final round of D1NZ was going to be November 6th, but they're looking at the 13th now.

I'm also pretty sure I have something on the 30th as well. Guess I'll have to pass on this one too. But I'll know for sure, closer to the date.

[CliveyBoy]

hmmmmm.....I think I have given the camera club with no cameras a decent go.....don't think it is for me.
Well done, Scott. The clubs vary greatly from place to place, and over time. Some are Photo Societies, and others are Camera Clubs. Tauranga's PS is notable for the absence of cameras, and it does seem weird. There are those who are welcoming to all, and those who see the social tone under threat. After 18 months of involvement, I am cutting back my attendance. There have been excellent speakers, but recently some quite irrelevant ones, and the return on effort is no longer there.

My daughter and her two daughters attend Henderson, and it seems that they get good value from that PS. I joined in their field trip to Whatipu, and found them very accepting.

[scotttnz]

At the moment I'm working on the 28th, so my vote is for the 11th.

[FlyingPete]

I think we should look at changing the date, its not really a big GKPE if only a couple of people show up.

The sunday is out, no way am I going to be in any kind of state to do lots of moving around after Guy Fawkes.

So either weekend around that date is so far fine with me.

Ok lets look at the Saturday before or after. looks like there is a slight preference to before, and it would be nice for one of our out of town members to attend :D

[FlyingPete]

At the moment I'm working on the 28th, so my vote is for the 11th.

OK looks like we need to put this to a vote, I have started a planning thread here:
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=220084

[Wazza]

Oooo a vote.

Voted 28th, as it's very likely I'll be unable to attend 11th as with the details on my previous post.

[weka2000]

Had another play with my waterfall photo. I did use a GND filter thus darker at the top. This time I played with Selective colour in CS2 seems to made a difference and did a different crop

[TKRFAN]

A shot from Sunday for TKRFAN :D







Damn! Just realised it follows the 1/3rds - HELP!

Hehe - not the normal TKR beast I am used to - but more to the point - who is the driver :lol: Is it Gene Rollinson? Taryn Kugener?