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FlyingPete
3rd of October 2006 (Tue), 17:23
Tony will be Tony and do it alone :lol:

GKPE website so what it going to be all about, who looks after it etc?
We could have a directory of who photographs what. Il put in a few buck, do we each get our own e-mail adress weka2000@gkpe.co.nz :)

Will start a new thread about it when we get the green light from POTN management :)

Email address is an interesting idea, does make the whole thing a little more complex though, might have to go for a small hosting solution.

tim
3rd of October 2006 (Tue), 17:25
Pete's got my extra $6 or $7 from batteries, but that was goodwill. :p

I was going to make it $100, 25 each, however I'm not exactly rolling in money this week.

The other issue, is I NEED warren@warrenwilliams.co.nz email address. I get several emails, especially just after D1 event, so at the moment, I'm probably sending back emails saying not receivable. :p
Also a wedding client was to email me to confirm meeting on Saturday this weekend... At least I have a phone number.

What's the place you use yourself Tim?

I'm checking with all my friends, most have web hosting already, seems NZ is like $30-50 a month for the highest bandwidth

I'm looking not just to move my few htm pages, and couple of logo images, but rather my ENTIRE photo collection - or a more, "best of" and install Pekka's EE

www.hostgator.com . Easy to set up hosting and an email account, it'd take no time, but a day or two for things to propogate through dns.

MHP
3rd of October 2006 (Tue), 17:25
http://ace-host.net/hostingplans.html


this is who I use. seems o.k. but I'm not real knowledgeable on this stuff, I could be getting fully ripped off, only costs me about $14.00 usd per mth though, which depending on rate is about $20-25 p/mth

edit: $4-6 usd mth, heaps of stuff i nkow nothing about included!

tim
3rd of October 2006 (Tue), 17:26
Will start a new thread about it when we get the green light from POTN management :)

Email address is an interesting idea, does make the whole thing a little more complex though, might have to go for a small hosting solution.

I'd host a small website on my plan for free, but email addresses i'd probably not do. I'd have to think about it.

FlyingPete
3rd of October 2006 (Tue), 17:27
I have a with KiwiwebHost, $1 a week plan (exGST), but you only get 10MB of space.

FlyingPete
3rd of October 2006 (Tue), 18:06
People, we have a green light from Pekka to proceed with our own GKPE site that point to stuff here :D

New thread here:
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2072945#post2072945

theflyingkiwi
3rd of October 2006 (Tue), 18:52
Gee I do some work for a morning and you guys go and create a new web site just for aucklanders :)

FlyingPete
3rd of October 2006 (Tue), 19:07
Gee I do some work for a morning and you guys go and create a new web site just for aucklanders :)

I think it would be a shame if this only worked in Auckland. I was a member of a club a while ago when I lived in Christchurch, they had meetings every 3-4 months, between 10-20 people showed up. When I moved to Auckland the same society had meetings up here, they had them monthly and had 30-50 people turn up. I think at the end of the day it is about population, but then there are a lot of Canon users out there :D

tim
3rd of October 2006 (Tue), 19:10
http://ace-host.net/hostingplans.html


this is who I use. seems o.k. but I'm not real knowledgeable on this stuff, I could be getting fully ripped off, only costs me about $14.00 usd per mth though, which depending on rate is about $20-25 p/mth

edit: $4-6 usd mth, heaps of stuff i nkow nothing about included!

I used ace-host.net for a while, and without a doubt they are the worst host i've ever heard of. They don't do backups, and when a server crashed I lost about two months of data from a mySql database. Their technicians are rude, are often not helpful, not very knowledgable, and can take a while to reply. They have a huge amount of downtime compared with any other host I know - one month their uptime was about 90%. I strongly recommend staying as far from these people as you possibly can.

scotttnz
3rd of October 2006 (Tue), 19:29
It would be easy enough for a number of us with exchange servers to host web mail using OWA. I'd be happy to do it, but it would not be a guarenteed highly available service.

weka2000
3rd of October 2006 (Tue), 19:44
Gee I do some work for a morning and you guys go and create a new web site just for aucklanders :)

Get some new recruits :lol:

MHP
3rd of October 2006 (Tue), 19:47
I used ace-host.net for a while, and without a doubt they are the worst host i've ever heard of. They don't do backups, and when a server crashed I lost about two months of data from a mySql database. Their technicians are rude, are often not helpful, not very knowledgable, and can take a while to reply. They have a huge amount of downtime compared with any other host I know - one month their uptime was about 90%. I strongly recommend staying as far from these people as you possibly can.

bl%%dy h$ll !!!

might be time to change then, although i have had no problems, but like i said, I don't know enough about it. i have a back up of my website on my hard drive so i would only need to reload it, have never had to do it though. i did find their replies quite fast, within a few hrs anyway, and i would say their replies are... straight to the point. i really wouldn't know how fast to expect replies from a server company, but these were faster than I have had to deal with in the past with other support systems.

tim
3rd of October 2006 (Tue), 20:56
HostGator reply to me sometimes within 2 minutes of me submitting a low priority support request - that's just unreal service!

Wazza
3rd of October 2006 (Tue), 22:33
Their techs will be scramble over the inbound emails. :p

theflyingkiwi
3rd of October 2006 (Tue), 23:56
Thanks Pete, found the batterys sitting my front door step when I got home today. Very fast delivery :)

NordieBoy
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 00:06
HostGator reply to me sometimes within 2 minutes of me submitting a low priority support request - that's just unreal service!

They're probably just scared of you.

tim
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 00:38
They're probably just scared of you.

How could they be scared of me, they've never met me? ;)

Nzshrimper
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 01:04
Pete thanks for the fast delivery of the batteries.. Just putting through the internet banking as i type this ... :) there is a little extra in there to get a beer.


Tag 141 got the top gear dvd thanks for that.. great quality ;) also thanks for the pdf on raw...


MHP still waiting for supplier to forward me the HDD and case. :cry: should be here tomorrow.

Website .. - ill throw a few bucks in.

Nzshrimper
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 01:14
Pete all done .. enjoy the cold one.

thanks for the great service..
I recommend this trader and will trade again..


oh its not trade me.. ;)

Wazza
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 01:17
Should have put them on trademe, or make buynows when we're online, to boost your trademe numbers ;)

I'm only on 10.

Nzshrimper
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 01:18
Should have put them on trademe, or make buynows when we're online, to boost your trademe numbers ;)

I'm only on 10.

sell some more stuff then.. :p

MHP
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 01:29
Pete thanks for the fast delivery of the batteries.. Just putting through the internet banking as i type this ... :) there is a little extra in there to get a beer.


Tag 141 got the top gear dvd thanks for that.. great quality ;) also thanks for the pdf on raw...


MHP still waiting for supplier to forward me the HDD and case. :cry: should be here tomorrow.

Website .. - ill throw a few bucks in.

sweet, no drama.

tag141
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 01:31
Tag 141 got the top gear dvd thanks for that.. great quality ;) also thanks for the pdf on raw...

Oops, how did that pdf get on there ;) .

Website thingy. I'd donate a few sheckles.

Nzshrimper
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 01:40
has any one seen the mentos advert on the tv.. :D

downunder
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 01:45
My new toys,oops I mean much needed lenses just arrived this arvo from B&H, hopefully I will have time this weekend to play. I got the canon 1.4x extender, canon 50mm f/1.4 and the 400mm f/5.6L would have prefered to buy locally but for some reason the difference in price was to big on these particular lenses.

tag141
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 01:49
Shrimper, just had a quick peek at the UK league tables.

http://www.football-league.premiumtv.co.uk/page/DivisionalLeagueTable/0,,10794~20067,00.html

Look who's number 1 and then 22 ;) . I could never see Ninian Park as a premier league ground. I hope they lose a couple of games. :rolleyes:

downunder
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 01:50
has any one seen the mentos advert on the tv.. :D

Is that the nipple ad? a little freaky!

Nzshrimper
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 01:58
Shrimper, just had a quick peek at the UK league tables.

http://www.football-league.premiumtv.co.uk/page/DivisionalLeagueTable/0,,10794~20067,00.html

Look who's number 1 and then 22 ;) . I could never see Ninian Park as a premier league ground. I hope they lose a couple of games. :rolleyes:

yep whatever.. :p :p lol

not the best start.. anyway its only about surviving this year..

with another 18 home games to go an average of 1.5 points from those games and say 12 points from away games that would give us 48 points enough to stay up.

so that 3 away wins and 3 draws.
and 6 home wins 9 draws.

our home form has been great (except for the bluebirds)

MHP
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 01:59
go Cardiff. the rest is pants ;-)

Nzshrimper
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 01:59
Is that the nipple ad? a little freaky!
yep that the one... very freaky but funny...

Nzshrimper
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 02:00
go Cardiff. the rest is pants ;-)
that hdd just got lost in the post..;)

lol

Nzshrimper
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 02:01
go Cardiff. the rest is pants ;-)
and that would be 'are pants'

FlyingPete
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 02:16
Thanks Pete, found the batterys sitting my front door step when I got home today. Very fast delivery :)

Pete all done .. enjoy the cold one.

thanks for the great service..
I recommend this trader and will trade again..


oh its not trade me.. ;)

No worriesm you are both welcome :D See I'm not so evil afterall ;)

Nzshrimper
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 02:18
No worriesm you are both welcome :D See I'm not so evil afterall ;)
i think you have planted an evil chip in the batteries that will brain wash anyone we point our camera's at. ... you re taking over the world, New Zealand first. and we are you unsuspecting Henchmen..

joeseph
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 02:26
Is that the nipple ad? a little freaky!
If actually a little sexist too, imagine the outcry if the subject was a woman!

tag141
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 02:33
imagine the outcry if the subject was a woman!

Would have to watch it a few thousand times to make my mind up

Nzshrimper
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 02:35
Would have to watch it a few thousand times to make my mind up
its a bit like Bro town.. image if a white guy had written that .. my god the out cry would be huge...

NordieBoy
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 02:41
How could they be scared of me, they've never met me? ;)
I've never met you either...

theflyingkiwi
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 03:13
No worriesm you are both welcome :D See I'm not so evil afterall ;)

yea but I did think that "one million dollars" postage was just over the top. I mean the packaging wasn't even gold plated :) gezzzzz

dgcorner
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 03:19
Steve -- enjoy the new toys!!!

You guys are hilarious, and so is the new Mentos advert ... a little freaky but it does get the message through -- look at all of us talking about it! ;-)

weka2000
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 04:09
Woops posted in wrong thread

Well I got back from Awitu 1 and half hrs drive there and back :sad:
Will post photos tommorow.

Oh the othe other side of Whatipu

tim
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 05:59
I've never met you either...

I'm not sure why, but the phrase "baptism by fire" has come into my head...

FlyingPete
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 13:01
i think you have planted an evil chip in the batteries that will brain wash anyone we point our camera's at. ... you re taking over the world, New Zealand first. and we are you unsuspecting Henchmen..

Yep got it in one :o

yea but I did think that "one million dollars" postage was just over the top. I mean the packaging wasn't even gold plated :) gezzzzz

Thats Goldmember who does that, I am into sharks with laser beams on their heads ;)

scotttnz
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 15:13
Yep got it in one :o



Thats Goldmember who does that, I am into sharks with laser beams on their heads ;)

No...Laser Canons, and they will have to be ID series if they are going on sharks.

dgcorner
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 15:16
Pete - How's Elizabeth & Rebecca coming along? Trusting alls well? I'm sure that Shona and yourself need the rest too. I hope that it is the last "incident" in a long time.

PS I still have to swing by to grab my batterries. Will call before coming over.

FlyingPete
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 15:37
No...Laser Canons, and they will have to be ID series if they are going on sharks.

Hmmm, I can get some Canon Laser Beams (http://www.canon.co.nz/products/printers/laser_printers_colour.html)off Techpac. Can't get ID series, but our sharks (ESS) downstairs here have lots of laser beams :D

Pete - How's Elizabeth & Rebecca coming along? Trusting alls well? I'm sure that Shona and yourself need the rest too. I hope that it is the last "incident" in a long time.

PS I still have to swing by to grab my batterries. Will call before coming over.

No worries, we are home most nights, everyone seems to have settled all had a good nights sleep last night, the girls are off to the "Scary Forest" (aka Murphys Bush) this morning.

NordieBoy
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 15:40
I am into sharks with laser beams on their heads ;)

Surely that's "frickin" laser beams?

dgcorner
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 15:57
Yay -- I hopefully will get to pick up my new toys this weekend!!! Time to update my sig ;-)

weka2000
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 16:22
Southhead views of Whatipu. Wekas last night adventure
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2077048#post2077048

weka2000
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 16:22
Yay -- I hopefully will get to pick up my new toys this weekend!!! Time to update my sig ;-)

What you going to get?

downunder
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 18:41
Yay -- I hopefully will get to pick up my new toys this weekend!!! Time to update my sig ;-)

sounds like we will both be playing this weekend:)

dgcorner
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 19:20
What you going to get?

70-200L IS and 17-40L -- figured that the weather sealing should be good. Besides, I see FF sometime in my future, hence my shying away from the 17-55IS.

I also figured that I won't be shooting handheld below 1/60s with the 17-40 given I have the 580EX... although the 17-55IS would have been totally awesome if it were not for the EFS mount.

dgcorner
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 19:21
sounds like we will both be playing this weekend:)

That's if I am able to meet up with Graham after work! Worse case is that I get the lenses on Tuesday :cry:

FlyingPete
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 19:24
70-200L IS and 17-40L -- figured that the weather sealing should be good. Besides, I see FF sometime in my future, hence my shying away from the 17-55IS.

I also figured that I won't be shooting handheld below 1/60s with the 17-40 given I have the 580EX... although the 17-55IS would have been totally awesome if it were not for the EFS mount.

That will be one nice tool bag you will have there :D

Weather sealing is good on lenses, means you only need to put the body is a zip lock bag!

dgcorner
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 19:37
That will be one nice tool bag you will have there :D

Weather sealing is good on lenses, means you only need to put the body is a zip lock bag!

Or grab the Kata rain protector that Warren got.

dgcorner
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 19:38
Moppie -- its Thursday...

EDIT:

Warren: where did you get the rain protector/cover from? From the reviews the Kata is pretty cool.

Wazza
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 19:42
Someone recommended this video supplier, near Cook St. The name will come to my mind soon. ;)

So Tony.. Tomorrow?
Duncan would like to come too.

dgcorner
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 19:48
Thanks Warren!

For those of you looking for a 70-200L - here (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Camera-accessories/Lenses/Canon/auction-72374804.htm)

Moppie
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 19:57
Moppie -- its Thursday...



Wrong week.

dgcorner
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 20:08
Wrong week.

Eh? Alrighty then. Anything else happening for the Down Syndrome day?

weka2000
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 20:48
Someone recommended this video supplier, near Cook St. The name will come to my mind soon. ;)

So Tony.. Tomorrow?
Duncan would like to come too.

Im out Sandras working next 4 nights starting tommorow night.

FlyingPete
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 21:59
Well I just audited my storage assets after running out of disk space on one of my offsite drives (80GB) :rolleyes:

If I total up all my drives (40GB-250GB) and not take into account RAID, I have over 2.5TB :shock: There is a lot of duplication in there though, a full backup of all essential data is just under 120GB.

What I really need is someone else with a simular setup and we will just mirror each others data over DSL :D

rabsoft
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 23:35
Well I just audited my storage assets after running out of disk space on one of my offsite drives (80GB) :rolleyes:

If I total up all my drives (40GB-250GB) and not take into account RAID, I have over 2.5TB :shock: There is a lot of duplication in there though, a full backup of all essential data is just under 120GB.

What I really need is someone else with a simular setup and we will just mirror each others data over DSL :D

HMMMMM you beat me I only have about 1.5TB :(

I do have a mission though I am trying to download the internet :lol:

dgcorner
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 23:46
. . . I do have a mission though I am trying to download the internet :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

weka2000
4th of October 2006 (Wed), 23:47
I need a bigger house. Had a big clean up of my room (masterbedroom) trying to make room for all my camera stuff.

Cool found enought room for my new 300mmF4 IS thats on trade me at the moment :rolleyes:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Camera-accessories/Lenses/Canon/auction-72713308.htm

tag141
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 00:35
As this is a rambling thread, I want to ramble. Actually I want to ponder on something, so I will. Plus it isn't about photography so turn off now if you aren't interested.

<ponder>Since the sad demise of the 5c coin we could end up paying more for stuff. I was at Shell getting petrol and noticed their Swedish rounding table which basically says anything up to 5c over will be rounded down and anything over 5c will be rounded up. So $1.05 = $1.00 if paying in cash. As usual at the pump, I ended up putting in $30.01 and paid by eftpos. BUT (and here's the ponder) if I put in $30.05 and paid in cash, they would have to round it down to $30.00, in effect - 5c of free petrol. About 16 trips to the station would get you a free litre. So, if you really wanted to and had time, if you put $10.05 in three times at one stop you get 15c free if paying in cash. If you did it enough times you could get enough for a lens !!!</ponder>

weka2000
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 01:04
As this is a rambling thread, I want to ramble. Actually I want to ponder on something, so I will. Plus it isn't about photography so turn off now if you aren't interested.

<ponder>Since the sad demise of the 5c coin we could end up paying more for stuff. I was at Shell getting petrol and noticed their Swedish rounding table which basically says anything up to 5c over will be rounded down and anything over 5c will be rounded up. So $1.05 = $1.00 if paying in cash. As usual at the pump, I ended up putting in $30.01 and paid by eftpos. BUT (and here's the ponder) if I put in $30.05 and paid in cash, they would have to round it down to $30.00, in effect - 5c of free petrol. About 16 trips to the station would get you a free litre. So, if you really wanted to and had time, if you put $10.05 in three times at one stop you get 15c free if paying in cash. If you did it enough times you could get enough for a lens !!!</ponder>

If you spent the same time pondering all that as you did learning about your 1D I wonder how much better your photos would be :p
Anyway how much have you been getting out. I have been wanting to see what it can do.

tag141
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 01:08
If you spent the same time pondering all that as you did learning about your 1D I wonder how much better your photos would be :p

True :(

weka2000
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 01:13
I want to have a RANT.

Why did not 1 of you offer your opinion on how I could inprove my photograhy when I asked the otherday :evil:

What you guys have no opinions at all about my photography and how I can improve. Im dissapointed.:p Come on dont be sceard lets hear your honesty.
How elese am I going to get ahead.

Nzshrimper
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 01:18
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Camera-accessories/Lenses/Canon/auction-72437276.htm

or

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Camera-accessories/Lenses/Canon/auction-72727602.htm

or

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Camera-accessories/Lenses/Canon/auction-72713308.htm

to many to choose from..

tim
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 01:19
I want to have a RANT.

Why did not 1 of you offer your opinion on how I could inprove my photograhy when I asked the otherday :evil:

What you guys have no opinions at all about my photography and how I can improve. Im dissapointed.:p Come on dont be sceard lets hear your honesty.
How elese am I going to get ahead.

Post your links and put "honest critique wanted" beside them. Then rememeber i'm blunt at the best of times and i've had a few drinks.

Nzshrimper
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 01:34
I want to have a RANT.

Why did not 1 of you offer your opinion on how I could in prove my photography when I asked the other day :evil:

What you guys have no opinions at all about my photography and how I can improve. I'm disappointed.:p Come on dint be cedar lets hear your honesty.
How Else am I going to get ahead.

I don't think that i am in a position to say how to improve your photos. . i look at yours than look at mine and go bugger.. not because yours are bad but because mine are. I use your work as a bench mark to attain.

no offense to anyone else on here, but in he short time that i have visited the site,

I see Tim as the portrait and wedding mark that i would like to attain.

Wazza for his general ability but his sport shots are in a different class to most here

And yours for your landscapes and water falls.

Believe me i am very opinionated but I will not tell someone that I don't like if i do not know how to improve it, sorry.

Nzshrimper
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 01:36
Well I just audited my storage assets after running out of disk space on one of my offsite drives (80GB) :rolleyes:

If I total up all my drives (40GB-250GB) and not take into account RAID, I have over 2.5TB :shock: There is a lot of duplication in there though, a full backup of all essential data is just under 120GB.

What I really need is someone else with a simular setup and we will just mirror each others data over DSL :D
think of the extra bandwidth.. ouch..

scotttnz
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 01:42
I want to have a RANT.

Why did not 1 of you offer your opinion on how I could inprove my photograhy when I asked the otherday :evil:

What you guys have no opinions at all about my photography and how I can improve. Im dissapointed.:p Come on dont be sceard lets hear your honesty.
How elese am I going to get ahead.

Tony......you know what I am going to say don't you?

I think your photography has come a long way, and you are very dedicated and get out a lot more than most of us. But you need to go back to basics. You know what I am talking about...

You need to develop dicipline. Rule of thirds, forground, background, all that stuff you can get in any basic composition book. And when you know that stuff, when it comes naturally, then you can break the rules, because you will have trained yourself to know when you can and should.

That's what I am trying to do myself. Often I fail. Often I dispair that I have taken almost 11000 pictures with my 350D and I only really like about 10 of them. OK maybe 20, but thats not a very good keeper rate. I know I have improved, but I guess my standards are higher now too.

I'll keep commenting on your photos as much as I can, because I get frustrated when I post something and ask for comments and get a couple of "nice shot" type replies.

Have you tried posting in the critique section? I might give that a go.

My $0.10 (sorry 1,2, & 5c are out of circulation, so I had to put my price up!)

tim
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 01:45
I see Tim as the portrait and wedding mark that i would like to attain.

Wazza for his general ability but his sport shots are in a different class to most here.

Thanks :) I'm a long way short of where I want to be, i'm just a beginner with a couple of years under my belt, I get better every time I go out. Wazza's an all-rounder and will go far, he'll be giving me lessons one day, and i'd take lessons now if we lived closer together.

dgcorner
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 02:03
Tony -- how do you expect me to critique your work when my work is also "in process/progress"??? :p Suffice to say, I will say "nice" if I like it, "ugh" or "yuck" or "bin it" if I don't. I'm not your typical fence sitter -- I fall on either side after thinking things through;) In the year that I've been on the forum I've seen your pics go from "Uh huh" and some to "good/great/wow." The fact that it is not going the other way says heaps.

But as Scott says -- reviewing the basics is a sure fire way to get things going in the right direction.

Nzshrimper
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 02:11
Thanks :) I'm a long way short of where I want to be, i'm just a beginner with a couple of years under my belt, I get better every time I go out. Wazza's an all-rounder and will go far, he'll be giving me lessons one day, and i'd take lessons now if we lived closer together.

Its me who should be thanking you guys. and if i lived closer to them up there, then yep i would be tagging along as often i as could too. I would be the annoying shadow that asks all those dumb questions... :rolleyes:

if i get half way to the level your at in two years then i will be very happy, but i like the way all of us want to improve.

MHP
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 02:13
I want to have a RANT.

Why did not 1 of you offer your opinion on how I could inprove my photograhy when I asked the otherday :evil:

What you guys have no opinions at all about my photography and how I can improve. Im dissapointed.:p Come on dont be sceard lets hear your honesty.
How elese am I going to get ahead.

we all have opinions about your photography, and most of it good becaue you have done some downright stunning images, but it is YOU who must look at the image and be pleased with it, if you're not pleased with it, then ask yourself why?, then apply that change. If you don't know how or why it is wrong then do as Scott says and disipline yourself- learn the fundamentals of light, composition and the rule of thirds, when to apply them and when not to. if you don't you will always be asking someone else for their opinion, instead of knowing that they are correct in these ways and being comfortable with the image even if the rules are broken.

You've been told this before, and now are being told again the best way to get your images to a point how YOU like them, all you got to do is do it.

tim
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 02:16
I'm finding 16:9 crops interesting at the moment, as well as strong vignette's. The rule of thirds is a guideline you have to understand before you can break it.

theflyingkiwi
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 02:40
Does anyone have any links that explains the rules of thirds? I understand what it's about but not enough to be able to explain it.

NordieBoy
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 03:02
Does anyone have any links that explains the rules of thirds? I understand what it's about but not enough to be able to explain it.
http://www.photozone.de/4Technique/index.html

theflyingkiwi
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 03:14
if it is something so simple how come everyone is telling tony to go back to that, does none of his photos follow that ?

dgcorner
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 03:27
if it is something so simple how come everyone is telling tony to go back to that, does none of his photos follow that ?

Sometimes, Tony breaks the rules and ends up with a not so good pic. Although rules are there to be broken, there is a way to do it... though it is too complex for my weak brain to put into words:p

dgcorner
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 03:28
So, where would it be a good place to buy a monitor calibration thingy? Nothing too flash -- something enough to get my monitor calibrated enough to print decent pics.

scotttnz
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 03:39
http://www.photozone.de/4Technique/index.html

Thanks, thats a good link. Very nice summary of the basics. I have added it to my favourites to study.

John, I see you have updated your sig, does that mean you have your toys?

rabsoft
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 03:55
For some of you the website should now be availible at http://www.gkpe.org.nz/

Still heaps of work to be done on it but at least it is a start

dgcorner
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 03:58
Thanks, thats a good link. Very nice summary of the basics. I have added it to my favourites to study.

John, I see you have updated your sig, does that mean you have your toys?

Just the updated sig:oops: Graham is out of town and I hopefully will get the toys tomorrow, Saturday, or Tuesday at latest...:cry:

weka2000
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 04:00
Post your links and put "honest critique wanted" beside them. Then rememeber i'm blunt at the best of times and i've had a few drinks.

About as blunt as me but I dont need drink :lol:

weka2000
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 04:02
Just the updated sig:oops: Graham is out of town and I hopefully will get the toys tomorrow, Saturday, or Tuesday at latest...:cry:

Good to see you got man lens (EF "L" ) not boy ones (EF-S) :p

Nzshrimper
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 04:04
just a point less post but its gets me off 666 posts.. :evil: *shivers*:evil:

loving the Top gear car porn dvd....

weka2000
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 04:08
just a point less post but its gets me off 666 posts.. :evil: *shivers*:evil:

loving the Top gear car porn dvd....

Why its only a number 3900 100 to go :lol:

tim
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 04:10
Guys - opinions on this discussion (http://www.weddings.co.nz/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=photographers;action=display;num=11 59902342) - should I comment?

NordieBoy
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 04:14
Go for the comment!

Also check the year on the bottom of the page :D
"?004 Hamilton media limited. all rights reserved"

dgcorner
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 04:27
Guys - opinions on this discussion (http://www.weddings.co.nz/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=photographers;action=display;num=11 59902342) - should I comment?

If what she says is not true, i.e., "think it was because he wanted payment in full before you had seen the photos.. " I think that you should clarify. Otherwise, commenting would possibly make you sound defensive.

It is difficult to say anything to prop you up in such a forum. Let your work and your customers speak for you. Thus far, you have nothing to worry about.

tim
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 04:33
It is true - payment is in advance. I've heard too many stories of people delaying payment or not paying after they'd seen the previews and not gotten around to anything. I know i'll deliver a good product, and I really don't want to deal with price shoppers.

Nzshrimper
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 04:37
Guys - opinions on this discussion (http://www.weddings.co.nz/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=photographers;action=display;num=11 59902342) - should I comment?
nah- leave it. you don't need too. others can do it for you.. ;)

so what if you want payment up front.. i don't get a tank of petrol drive 400 km's then pay.

You could show them samples of other shoots before they pay, then they pay. Well thats how I see it working. Thats what our wedding photographer did.

Maybe forward the poster a sample email of your work.
Wet her palette a little.;)

dgcorner
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 05:07
It is true - payment is in advance. I've heard too many stories of people delaying payment or not paying after they'd seen the previews and not gotten around to anything. I know i'll deliver a good product, and I really don't want to deal with price shoppers.

If they are not happy with samples of your existing work then send them on. Not worth the headaches.

scotttnz
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 12:31
Good to see you got man lens (EF "L" ) not boy ones (EF-S) :p

And my daddy can beat up your daddy!

weka2000
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 13:31
And my daddy can beat up your daddy!

Your right mines dead :p

Wazza
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 13:40
Ha ha. Nice comment there on the weddings site.

There were rumours Tim was jumping to Noink, and then I wouldn't be guaranteeing great shots...

Thanks for the note about myself as a photographer - sports has only been a recent little thing I've done..

I much enjoy landscapes, shooting people, astrophotography, and when I have used a macro lens, enjoyed that too.

BTW. My website is down again... What are you doing Matt?!! :p

weka2000
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 14:07
BTW. My website is down again... What are you doing Matt?!! :p

Down time...loss of potential income :eek:
Your pay for quality :lol:

Wazza
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 14:32
And where is your site? :p

Mine will be back within a couple of days..

dgcorner
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 14:39
Heading for AC in the next hour or so - text me 0212067183 if you need anything. Those out of Auckland I can arrange to post stuff to you at cost if you want.

Wazza
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 14:41
*must resist the temptation*

I'm just trying to sort out a new server.

dgcorner
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 14:48
Warren -- I found the supplier for the Kata rain covers -- A2ZTech. I might swing by their place too later.

weka2000
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 15:05
And where is your site? :p

Mine will be back within a couple of days..

Under my Sig ;)
Im in the process of getting a business card/web site design going. I do things once and I do them right. Failure is not an option for me.

Where can you buy a shop display dummy (female). I need something I can practise my lighting ideas on, and who does not complain, is willing 24/7 and wont change her mind :lol:

FlyingPete
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 15:07
Phew I have caught up! One night off the forum, and three pages to read. Mark came around to visit and pick up batteries, so I get off on account of socialising with GKPE members :D

FlyingPete
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 15:09
Where can you buy a shop display dummy (female). I need something I can practise my lighting ideas on, and who does not complain, is willing 24/7 and wont change her mind :lol:

There was a shop supplies place at the K Road end of Ponsonby Road, across the road from John Andrew, I think they had that sort of stuff.

weka2000
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 15:12
There was a shop supplies place at the K Road end of Ponsonby Road, across the road from John Andrew, I think they had that sort of stuff.

Cheers for that. If I cant get the light right on a dummy I wont be able to get it right on a real woman :rolleyes:

dgcorner
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 15:18
Cheers for that. If I cant get the light right on a dummy I wont be able to get it right on a real woman :rolleyes:

You need to be careful on K Road - one wrong turn and you might be buying a different "woman/dummy" ... you know, the one you blow up:p At least this once, you can call a woman a "dummy" without hurting her feelings:lol:

Wazza
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 15:21
To be honest, those Kata bags were tricky for me to put on, and DEFINATLEY must do it under cover prior. Only used it once in action, but the camera stayed dried, just as long as you're own hands are dry.. But then you breathing on the bag will fog it up.. STILL, it's a better option than having a broken camera, and at 60+68 or whatever they were, is very cheap, even cheaper than B&H ;)

My new server seems to be going..

Just need to wait for update of DNS. ;)

dgcorner
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 15:28
Off to AC & Apix

weka2000
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 15:33
You need to be careful on K Road - one wrong turn and you might be buying a different "woman/dummy" ... you know, the one you blow up:p At least this once, you can call a woman a "dummy" without hurting her feelings:lol:

I believe the new blowup ones are quite real. You still cant bite them to hard on the neck or they will fly out the window :lol:

weka2000
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 15:45
wazza this is what Im getting at the moment

Wazza
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 16:01
Eh

Where did that come from

Wazza
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 16:02
Can anyone check the originating server of that?

ns1.nzpages.net?
or something secure

tim
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 16:13
C:\Documents and Settings\Tim>tracert warrenwilliams.co.nz

Tracing route to warrenwilliams.co.nz [72.9.249.140]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 46 ms 46 ms 47 ms 210-86-78-1.jetstream.xtra.co.nz [210.86.78.1]
3 44 ms 45 ms 45 ms 210.55.205.187
4 101 ms 83 ms 77 ms fid-int.tkbr4.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.245.198]
5 55 ms 56 ms 56 ms vlan-283.tkbr4.global-gateway.net.nz [202.50.245.197]
6 54 ms 54 ms 55 ms pc1-30.tkbr3.global-gateway.net.nz [210.55.202.65]
7 179 ms 180 ms 180 ms so3-1-0.labr3.global-gateway.net.nz [203.96.120.78]
8 179 ms 179 ms 179 ms so2-0-0-0.labr4.global-gateway.net.nz [203.96.120.102]
9 178 ms 180 ms 180 ms sl-st20-la-6-3.sprintlink.net [144.223.44.5]
10 182 ms 183 ms 180 ms 144.232.9.130
11 247 ms 248 ms 247 ms so0-0-0-9953M.ar4.ATL1.gblx.net [67.17.68.230]
12 233 ms 233 ms 233 ms NLAYER-COMMUNICATIONS-INC.ge-4-1-0.410.ar4.ATL1.gblx.net [206.41.25.230]
13 234 ms 234 ms 232 ms 209.51.131.29
14 233 ms 232 ms 232 ms 209.51.149.109
15 234 ms 258 ms 235 ms 65.254.48.2
16 233 ms 235 ms 233 ms gold.securenet-server.net [72.9.249.140]

Trace complete.

weka2000
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 16:43
My pbase is still working :p

Wazza
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 16:51
I only changed the routing of it an hour or two ago. But have uploaded all files.

I thought it gets updated daily at 6 or something

weka2000
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 17:01
Wazza the password protection still works.

Wazza
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 17:05
http://www.warrenwilliams.co.nz/

:p

MHP
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 17:17
works for me, I'M JUST LOOKING AT YOUR SITE, oops didn't mean to yell!... howz those 2 seagulls in collision, can't stop looking at it, thats a classic Johnny on the spot!, that, the ape with the lock and the size of that tiger!

oh and with a cracker!!

and one leg!

Wazza
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 17:20
Hah those shots taken with my 400mm F6.3!

http://wazz*****scity.com/20d/400_3.jpg

MHP
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 17:25
saw that on there, what is it, manual focus Canon? you also use a mirror?

joeseph
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 19:05
Hah those shots taken with my 400mm F6.3!

Very classy equipment. Are you still keen on doing some shooting this afternoon?

FlyingPete
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 19:08
Very classy equipment. Are you still keen on doing some shooting this afternoon?


I remember that lens being one of the highlights of GKPE I :D

dgcorner
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 19:18
Back from AC & H.E. Perry. Ended up buying a 486 ball head + a 323QR plate for my monopod (of course I had to make sure that it would hold the minimum 70-200mm,) Stofen Omnibounce for the 580EX, and a Tamrac Expedition 8 backpack (HEPerry) I was actually after the new Expedition 7 (around $350 but someone stuffed up on their end.) I couldn't resist the deal given to me for the Expedition 8.

For those of you interested in the Expedition 8 (old version) -- Thomas at HEPerry says he has around 6 left. He gave it to me for a cracker of a deal - $180 (incl GST) and that is very reasonable for the size of the bag. My only problem now is getting more lenses to fill it up:p

theflyingkiwi
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 19:28
Back from AC & H.E. Perry. Ended up buying a 486 ball head + a 323QR plate for my monopod (of course I had to make sure that it would hold the minimum 70-200mm,) Stofen Omnibounce for the 580EX, and a Tamrac Expedition 8 backpack (HEPerry) I was actually after the new Expedition 7 (around $350 but someone stuffed up on their end.) I couldn't resist the deal given to me for the Expedition 8.

For those of you interested in the Expedition 8 (old version) -- Thomas at HEPerry says he has around 6 left. He gave it to me for a cracker of a deal - $180 (incl GST) and that is very reasonable for the size of the bag. My only problem now is getting more lenses to fill it up:p

Hey John, what kinda of 486 did ya get. My 1st computer was a 486, a DX2-66 in fact. :) I am still confused as to why you would wont to buy one tho.

enough joking around. that head looks good. I was thinking about getting a lightweight tripod and a good head for it, anyone got any ideas.

that packpac looks like what I need. the small one currently using just doesn't have enough space for everything. :( will they do a deal like that again? How much was that Expedition 7 going to be. I should have given you a call. I am also looking for a angle viewfinder.

Wazza
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 19:42
That's quite some gear you're collecting John!

I'll have to make a few more purchases. After all, these 6 new batteries from Pete really don't count. :p

Wazza
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 20:02
No one else from the GKPE group seemed to post any drifting shots..

So here's Round 5 of 6.. Round 6 is on 19th November

http://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=224165

dgcorner
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 20:07
Mark - give Thomas a call and mention my name & the Exp8. He will surely extend the deal to you as discussed -- $180 (inc. GST!) -- these are the last 6 of the lot according to him. His number 09 3079018. From the B&H website, the new Exp7 would be around $350 landed NZ (and that is a smaller bag.)

The 486 is good on the monopod as it allows you to position the camera horizontaly or vertically, and yet take the weight of (minimum) the 70-200mm. The base doesn't pan though so I don't suggest it if you are thinking of using it for panorama shots.

Re lightweight tripod -- have a look at Feisol.com (http://www.feisol.com/english/feisolen.htm) a decent range. These are carbon fibre ones and cost as much, but are as stable as the 3021/055BPRO I have (which admittedly is a little heavy but stable).

Warren -- I'm afraid that the 17-40 & 70-200 are the last lenses I am buying in a looooong time. At worse, I may have to add a 1.4 or a 2X telecon for more reach but at this point I am all sweet. I do have to buy that Heliopan multicoated filter that Emma at AC showed me. After spending heaps on the lenses I am not putting cheap non-multicoated UV filters on them ;-)

dgcorner
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 20:16
Hmmm... with the new bag I am thinking of selling my F&S Rover Light backpack... about a year old, still in good to great condition. Anyone reckon that it will sell for $100 or is that too much? Will probably post on TM and see how it goes.

Wazza
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 20:32
http://xtraplans.co.nz/unleashed/

Haha

dgcorner
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 20:38
http://xtraplans.co.nz/unleashed/

Haha

Indeed, it is a big joke! my line only allows me approx 409kbps (out of 2mbps!) and I still end up paying full fees... I am waiting to hear back from Orcon -- they hopefully will give my slightly better speeds.

FlyingPete
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 20:47
Indeed, it is a big joke! my line only allows me approx 409kbps (out of 2mbps!) and I still end up paying full fees... I am waiting to hear back from Orcon -- they hopefully will give my slightly better speeds.

Have a chat with rabsoft before doing anything, he has some interesting insights into Orcon vs Ihug.

dgcorner
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 20:53
Have a chat with rabsoft before doing anything, he has some interesting insights into Orcon vs Ihug.

Mark - your insights please. I am frustrated with Xtra and have no idea what to do to get better service provided. Thanks!

weka2000
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 21:06
For those of you interested in the Expedition 8 (old version) -- Thomas at HEPerry says he has around 6 left. He gave it to me for a cracker of a deal - $180 (incl GST) and that is very reasonable for the size of the bag. My only problem now is getting more lenses to fill it up:p

have a expedition 7 and It wont take all my stuff :( . Very confortable to walk with though, great padding.

dgcorner
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 21:11
have a expedition 7 and It wont take all my stuff :( . Very confortable to walk with though, great padding.

When I saw the Exp8 I knew that it was the bag to go with - room to grow. If you want to have a look let me know. You can always sell on TM and move up to the bigger one ;-)

weka2000
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 21:16
When I saw the Exp8 I knew that it was the bag to go with - room to grow. If you want to have a look let me know. You can always sell on TM and move up to the bigger one ;-)

I just need to take less lens with me, after all I use the 17-40 and 70-200 the most. So why did you get what you got? Planning on getting a 5D are we ?

We could swap bags and win/win I paid $240 for mine.

dgcorner
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 22:35
I just need to take less lens with me, after all I use the 17-40 and 70-200 the most. So why did you get what you got? Planning on getting a 5D are we ?

We could swap bags and win/win I paid $240 for mine.

I foresee the equivalent of the 5D somewhere along the line.. but probably in 2-3 years. Those lenses should be good till then;)

Ouch, $240! I guess that I was lucky to stumble upon the deal at H.E. Perry. There are 6 left. Though not so sure if they are all black like mine. We can actually go into their office and probably buy some stuff now that I have a contact inside.:D

weka2000
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 22:37
So when does the glass arrive? Why did you not go for a wide 10-20 type lens?
You already have the 24-70 seems a bit of a double up IMHO

theflyingkiwi
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 22:38
I think you will find that john plans on a 1 series camera :)

weka2000
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 22:40
Mark I will get the biz card changes to you tonight when I have some free time :)
I will have some time this weekend to start designing my future website as well.

Rang around re manaquins. To expensive and 1 fixed position :( next ideas ???

rabsoft
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 22:50
Mark I will get the biz card changes to you tonight when I have some free time :)
I will have some time this weekend to start designing my future website as well.

Rang around re manaquins. To expensive and 1 fixed position :( next ideas ???

Get your wife to allow you to make a mould of her and then make your own dummy out of silly putty so you can move it to what ever position you want

weka2000
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 22:58
Get your wife to allow you to make a mould of her and then make your own dummy out of silly putty so you can move it to what ever position you want

Not a bad idea however I dont think the silly putty comes in flesh colours :lol:

theflyingkiwi
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 23:07
Mark I will get the biz card changes to you tonight when I have some free time :)
I will have some time this weekend to start designing my future website as well.

Rang around re manaquins. To expensive and 1 fixed position :( next ideas ???

Not a problem. I have also had a couple of other ideas :)

manaquins, I never thought you the doggy type tony, ohh well never can tell. ;)

weka2000
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 23:10
Not a problem. I have also had a couple of other ideas :)

manaquins, I never thought you the doggy type tony, ohh well never can tell. ;)

I would be more worried about John who knows which side of K rd has the blow up dolls :cool:

dgcorner
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 23:13
So when does the glass arrive? Why did you not go for a wide 10-20 type lens?
You already have the 24-70 seems a bit of a double up IMHO

10-20 or 10-22 were for crop sensors only (and as you say "boy lenses" :p ) and (almost) the equivalent of the 17-40 on FF cameras. So, I've purchased based on my long term plans rather than short to mid-term ones. Besides, from borrowing Duncan's 17-40 I suddenly realised that I was happy with that focal range.

MHP
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 23:16
that hdd just got lost in the post..;)

lol

you weren't kidding were you ;-)

weka2000
5th of October 2006 (Thu), 23:19
10-20 or 10-22 were for crop sensors only (and as you say "boy lenses" :p ) and (almost) the equivalent of the 17-40 on FF cameras. So, I've purchased based on my long term plans rather than short to mid-term ones. Besides, from borrowing Duncan's 17-40 I suddenly realised that I was happy with that focal range.

When did Duncan get a 17-40 ??? Do you mean 16-35. Well at least now the cheque has arrived and you lens will be here. All you need is time to use them.
I sold my 24-70 after it got made redundant by the 17-40.