GKPE: General Ramblings thread

[dgcorner]

I would be more worried about John who knows which side of K rd has the blow up dolls :cool:

:lol: At least those ones are interactive :lol: :lol: Again, just don't bite too hard:lol:

Reminds me of an old joke about 2 old geezers who went to a brothel. The madame decided that it would be a waste to send her girls in and gave them blow up dolls. After the jaunt, the 2 old buggers had a chat.

Old Man #1: I think my partner was dead. She just laid back, said nothing and made me do all the work!

Old Man #2: Hell, mine was a witch! She flew right out of the room when I bit hard on her neck!

[dgcorner]

When did Duncan get a 17-40 ??? Do you mean 16-35. Well at least now the cheque has arrived and you lens will be here. All you need is time to use them.
I sold my 24-70 after it got made redundant by the 17-40.

Oops, yes the 16-35. I was shooting more toward the 17-18 side... and not even reaching 35mm.

Who knows, my 24-70 might be next on the chopping block if I find that I am using my 17-40 more often than not.:rolleyes: In fact, I am thinking of selling my 50mm since it is not getting any use... I'll give it more thought... and probably get a 100mm macro lens since I love doing macro stuff.

[dgcorner]

Rant time...

Had a chat with iHug & Orcon people, as well as Xtra. From the little that I told them about my problem with Telecom/Xtra they feel that I am held hostage to the exchange rather than the ISP. Their lines go through the same exchange and therefore an increase in line speed cannot be guaranteed! Bugger.:evil: :cry:

Xtra/Telecom mention that the exchange is being upgraded within the year so there is light at the end of the tunnel. Till then, I guess that I will have to deal with 409kbps.. which is still better than dial-up speed:cry:

End of rant...

[joeseph]

Rant time...

Had a chat with iHug & Orcon people, as well as Xtra. From the little that I told them about my problem with Telecom/Xtra they feel that I am held hostage to the exchange rather than the ISP. Their lines go through the same exchange and therefore an increase in line speed cannot be guaranteed! Bugger.:evil: :cry:

Xtra/Telecom mention that the exchange is being upgraded within the year so there is light at the end of the tunnel. Till then, I guess that I will have to deal with 409kbps.. which is still better than dial-up speed:cry:

End of rant...
John, when I get back to work next week I'll reposses my spare router & you can borrow it to see what the speed is with a "real" router... ;)

[weka2000]

Well if they can do your exchange then they can do mine :evil:
Bloody telecom when will they get their act togather or someone else to lay cable

[Nzshrimper]

you weren't kidding were you ;-)
yep.. i was kiding.

Whats the poastal address so i can forward it to you..
PM me.

[MHP]

yep.. i was kiding.

Whats the poastal address so i can forward it to you..
PM me.

sweet, done.

[weka2000]

So Duncan hows the wee one? Back to work Monday for a rest :lol:
When do you want to do the studio lights?

[dgcorner]

John, when I get back to work next week I'll reposses my spare router & you can borrow it to see what the speed is with a "real" router... ;)

Thanks Duncan! From my chat with Mark/rabsoft this afternoon, he mentions something about a "high pass filter" or splitter. Do you know anything about this? The Telecom person I spoke with this afternoon was hopeless!:evil:

Well if they can do your exchange then they can do mine :evil:
Bloody telecom when will they get their act togather or someone else to lay cable

That is what happens when you have a monopoly of sorts -- disastrous infrastructure, high costs, poor service.

[weka2000]

Yep and we can do a thing about it. I think telecom should be forsed to upgrade the lines from the house back to the exchange. My copper has been in the ground since 1970.

[forsaken]

No one else from the GKPE group seemed to post any drifting shots..

So here's Round 5 of 6.. Round 6 is on 19th November

http://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=224165



I put some online but wasn't happy with how they looked so removed them all. Will get round to redoing them sometime soon.

[Nzshrimper]

Rant time...

Had a chat with iHug & Orcon people, as well as Xtra. From the little that I told them about my problem with Telecom/Xtra they feel that I am held hostage to the exchange rather than the ISP. Their lines go through the same exchange and therefore an increase in line speed cannot be guaranteed! Bugger.:evil: :cry:

Xtra/Telecom mention that the exchange is being upgraded within the year so there is light at the end of the tunnel. Till then, I guess that I will have to deal with 409kbps.. which is still better than dial-up speed:cry:

End of rant...
dg do u live near a hotel, bp garage, mcd's, or a mall. If so yo maybe able to hit up on the telecoms wireless hot spots that these places broadcast.

a wifi card and a directional aerial. an extra account log on. you will get max speed up and down from this is you can login to it. A basic jet stream account cost $29 and this is more than sufficient . Once you use the 1gb cap a warning will appear saying you will be billed at $10 an hour. (ignore this as they cant bill you). and carry on surfing. ;)

great for gaming. and faster than dial up and most broadband plans. (dont do your banking on it thou , not secure from your PC to the router but after that encrypted)

[forsaken]

Think its time I got my camera serviced. My shots seem to be getting progresivley worse and worse, I just can't put my finger on the problem. If its not the camera then there might be a 20d w/ 70 - 200 f2.8 up for sale soon.

[Nzshrimper]

Think its time I got my camera serviced. My shots seem to be getting progresivley worse and worse, I just can't put my finger on the problem. If its not the camera then there might be a 20d w/ 70 - 200 f2.8 up for sale soon.
Ill have the monopod. ;) :p

[joeseph]

So Duncan hows the wee one?
More poo than wee today.... [sorry for that image folks :-)]
He's doing well, put on nearly 1Kg since leaving hospital and playing havoc on the sleep patterns - dunno that going back to work will help, will see if I get away with hiding in a corner for an afternoon nap...
Photo shoot with lights will probably be a couple of weeks away as this weekend I'm busy and next Saturday I'm out with Moppie on the Downs Syndrome walk - hopefully the weekend after?

[weka2000]

Think its time I got my camera serviced. My shots seem to be getting progresivley worse and worse, I just can't put my finger on the problem. If its not the camera then there might be a 20d w/ 70 - 200 f2.8 up for sale soon.

Moppie camera sale :lol:

[weka2000]

More poo than wee today.... [sorry for that image folks :-)]
He's doing well, put on nearly 1Kg since leaving hospital and playing havoc on the sleep patterns - dunno that going back to work will help, will see if I get away with hiding in a corner for an afternoon nap...
Photo shoot with lights will probably be a couple of weeks away as this weekend I'm busy and next Saturday I'm out with Moppie on the Downs Syndrome walk - hopefully the weekend after?

Let me know when you want. Been playing around with bookends tonight interesting results. They need to be about 7ft high and a strip light so I will keep playing.

[Nzshrimper]

Moppie camera sale :lol:
the vultures are circling but the body is still warm....

[weka2000]

the vultures are circling but the body is still warm....
There are 2 types of people in this world the quick and the dead :lol:
snooze you loose. GKPE where everyone gets a bargin.

[Nzshrimper]

There are 2 types of people in this world the quick and the dead :lol:
snooze you loose
to bloody rite. //// lol

[Nzshrimper]

Tony r u still after some CF cards.

Kingston 2GB Ultimate CompactFlash Card
133x speed rating - designed for the professional
photographer or serious enthusiast

$160 each

[weka2000]

Tony r u still after some CF cards.

Kingston 2GB Ultimate CompactFlash Card
133x speed rating - designed for the professional
photographer or serious enthusiast

$160 each

To small I need 4gig min

[weka2000]

Hamiltons gap from the other day

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2083826#post2083826

Please offer honest critque (Tim give reasons for your comments and answers to improve.....dont like that one dosnt cut it)

[Nzshrimper]

To small I need 4gig min
ok 4 gb

Kingston 4GB Ultimate CompactFlash Card
133x speed rating - designed for the professional
photographer or serious enthusiast

$320 - (rrp $420)


8gb (eggs and basket)

Kingston 8GB Ultimate CompactFlash Card
133x speed with Ontrack recovery software

$690 - (rrp $920)

[weka2000]

ok 4 gb

Kingston 4GB Ultimate CompactFlash Card
133x speed rating - designed for the professional
photographer or serious enthusiast

$320 - (rrp $420)


8gb (eggs and basket)

Kingston 8GB Ultimate CompactFlash Card
133x speed with Ontrack recovery software

$690 - (rrp $920)

Scott gave me a better deal :lol: Yes I understand the eggs and the basket.

[Nzshrimper]

Scott gave me a better deal :lol: Yes I understand the eggs and the basket.
if you dont mind telling me scotts price .. (its so i can squeeze my supplier.. ) and is that for the same cards.
I can get the Elite pro cheaper. (but they are not as flash)

[weka2000]

if you dont mind telling me scotts price .. (its so i can squeeze my supplier.. ) and is that for the same cards.
I can get the Elite pro cheaper. (but they are not as flash)

Your better checking with Scott. I dont have the right.

[Nzshrimper]

Your better checking with Scott. I dont have the right.
fair play.. good call.

[weka2000]

fair play.. good call.

Yep Im a firm but fair type of guy.

[dgcorner]

Yep Im a firm but fair type of guy.

And he tells you how it is... trust me:p

[dgcorner]

I think that I am up for a trip to AC again -- on Tuesday mid-day. I figured that I should get the Heliopan multicoated UV/Skylight filter for the 70-200 (I already have one for the 17-40) and possibly a hotshoe bubble level. This should be my last trip in a long time!

Anyone need anything? You have my cell.

[weka2000]

I think that I am up for a trip to AC again -- on Tuesday mid-day. I figured that I should get the Heliopan multicoated UV/Skylight filter for the 70-200 (I already have one for the 17-40) and possibly a hotshoe bubble level. This should be my last trip in a long time!

Anyone need anything? You have my cell.

Maybe I need a level :rolleyes:

[scotttnz]

I think that I am up for a trip to AC again -- on Tuesday mid-day. I figured that I should get the Heliopan multicoated UV/Skylight filter for the 70-200 (I already have one for the 17-40) and possibly a hotshoe bubble level. This should be my last trip in a long time!

Anyone need anything? You have my cell.

They didn't have any hot shoe levels when I was there a couple of weeks ago. Let me know if they have them in stock. I want to get one.

Thanks.

[scotttnz]

Was someone talking about getting a Sigma 24-70 f2.8?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Camera-accessories/Lenses/Canon/auction-72974714.htm

Seems like a good price.

[FlyingPete]

if you dont mind telling me scotts price .. (its so i can squeeze my supplier.. ) and is that for the same cards.
I can get the Elite pro cheaper. (but they are not as flash)

A number of people here have access to TechPac (Ingram Micro), not sure if you can get cheaper than them, I checked my price once, then my employer at the time which was a Gold Partner, and the price was the same on Kingston.

[Nzshrimper]

A number of people here have access to TechPac (Ingram Micro), not sure if you can get cheaper than them, I checked my price once, then my employer at the time which was a Gold Partner, and the price was the same on Kingston.
yep that would appear to be the case. Ingram is the supplier i have too. :D

[MHP]

o.k. so got a bit of a dilemma. have been here a year building a business and it's going...o.k. as you would expect from any new business starting in a place where you know no one. it's o.k. though. anyway just been offered a job managing a photo biz on a ship going from Greece to Sth America, including Egypt, Africa and Antarctica, Chile, Rio, etc etc. stopping at all places on the way- for myself and partner.


I seriously don't know what to do.

[theflyingkiwi]

o.k. so got a bit of a dilemma. have been here a year building a business and it's going...o.k. as you would expect from any new business starting in a place where you know no one. it's o.k. though. anyway just been offered a job managing a photo biz on a ship going from Greece to Sth America, including Egypt, Africa and Antarctica, Chile, Rio, etc etc. stopping at all places on the way- for myself and partner.


I seriously don't know what to do.

I wish I could help, but I have been offered a job in akl. And I can't even make up my mind on that :o

[weka2000]

Well what a day. In the mood to clean up so I order a 6mtr bin :lol: just about filled it already. under the house, in the house, the carport and next its the roof. All this is to start of the carport studio that I will build ;)

[Nzshrimper]

o.k. so got a bit of a dilemma. have been here a year building a business and it's going...o.k. as you would expect from any new business starting in a place where you know no one. it's o.k. though. anyway just been offered a job managing a photo biz on a ship going from Greece to Sth America, including Egypt, Africa and Antarctica, Chile, Rio, etc etc. stopping at all places on the way- for myself and partner.


I seriously don't know what to do.
Honestly.

Take the job. From what you have described its a once in a life time opp. Free travel - accommodation and a salary. As you said the biz here has been going a year. Put it on ice go for a trip. image the photos you will get, the people you will meet and the contacts that you will make.

Can you honestly see the biz here being able to provide you with those opps and afford you to take the breaks to chase them.

You don't have kids, and to be honest what do you have to lose. you made a biz now whats to stop u doing that again.

How longs the new job for?

[Nzshrimper]

I wish I could help, but I have been offered a job in akl. And I can't even make up my mind on that :o


hey hamilton to aukland - i can see your point of view

but auckland to Greece, Egypt, Africa, Antarctica, Chile, Rio, etc etc. stopping at all places on the way- for myself and partner.

i would be packing right now...:p

[MattL]

Was someone talking about getting a Sigma 24-70 f2.8?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Camera-accessories/Lenses/Canon/auction-72974714.htm

Seems like a good price.

That was me.

I'm reallly reallly tempted.. I'll put it on my watchlist and see for a while

[Nzshrimper]

What was the final date for the next GKPE ?

[MHP]

Honestly.

Take the job. From what you have described its a once in a life time opp. Free travel - accommodation and a salary. As you said the biz here has been going a year. Put it on ice go for a trip. image the photos you will get, the people you will meet and the contacts that you will make.

Can you honestly see the biz here being able to provide you with those opps and afford you to take the breaks to chase them.

You don't have kids, and to be honest what do you have to lose. you made a biz now whats to stop u doing that again.

How longs the new job for?


nicely put, and you're right, it's the ops for all the places i have'nt been yet- thats the dilemma! also right- the biz can be done again. the job is a 5 mth stint, the ship caves after that, so organizing printers off etc at the end in Rio. after that then maybe go onto another ship for a few mths, a big one to make some serious bucks, would be a good time to hit Alaska about then maybe, which would be my last frontier to cover.

thanks for the input

[theflyingkiwi]

hey hamilton to aukland - i can see your point of view

but auckland to Greece, Egypt, Africa, Antarctica, Chile, Rio, etc etc. stopping at all places on the way- for myself and partner.

i would be packing right now...:p

I can see what you mean. those places will be one in a life time to vist and I wouldn't mind visting themself.

[theflyingkiwi]

What was the final date for the next GKPE ?

I think it was decieded on the 28th. that got the most votes. I have just updated the topic asking about shooting location.

[Nzshrimper]

I think it was decieded on the 28th. that got the most votes. I have just updated the topic asking about shooting location.
ok tickets for flights are $288... all up. for that date (arriving 7:30 am Saturday and leaving Sunday 6:30pm;)

if we can sort out shoot ideas would be great . i take it, it will be Saturday for the main meet. If so i would like to go to Auckland zoo during the other day..

Saturday night a few beers would also be a must may be a club or two,,,,;) ;)

[dgcorner]

Yay -- toys are in. Graham is a really nice guy to deal with. I'd recommend him from the transaction I just had.

[joeseph]

o.k. so got a bit of a dilemma. have been here a year building a business and it's going...o.k. as you would expect from any new business starting in a place where you know no one. it's o.k. though. anyway just been offered a job managing a photo biz on a ship going from Greece to Sth America, including Egypt, Africa and Antarctica, Chile, Rio, etc etc. stopping at all places on the way- for myself and partner.


I seriously don't know what to do.
Dilemma? what dilemma? pack now, without delay! there's no way I'd want to look back in a couple of years time and think about an oportunity like that I'd missed. Okay so you'd be working a fair percentage of the time but there's nothing like seeing other parts of the world to stimulate the mind.

[Nzshrimper]

have you packed yet :p

[scotttnz]

OK honest feedback on this one please:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a310/scotttnz/IMG_0817.jpg

I used my tobacco grad filter for the first time, and like the effect on what would have otherwise been a grey drab sky. But I spent a while removing the effect from the church, and you can stll see the grad on the walls if you look for it.

[FlyingPete]

I think it was decieded on the 28th. that got the most votes. I have just updated the topic asking about shooting location.

Poll closes this week, but it is looking like the 28th.

[FlyingPete]

OK honest feedback on this one please:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a310/scotttnz/IMG_0817.jpg

I used my tobacco grad filter for the first time, and like the effect on what would have otherwise been a grey drab sky. But I spent a while removing the effect from the church, and you can stll see the grad on the walls if you look for it.

That is really eye catching! Composition looks good to me, perhaps you could clone the wee bit of trees on the far left.

What happens if you take two shots, one with and one without the filter to enable the church not to become coloured? Not sure how much work that would be?

BTW where is that?

[scotttnz]

That is really eye catching! Composition looks good to me, perhaps you could clone the wee bit of trees on the far left.

What happens if you take two shots, one with and one without the filter to enable the church not to become coloured? Not sure how much work that would be?

BTW where is that?

Opps, I ment to clone that bit of tree out!

I think taking 2 shots with and without the filter would be the best way to do it, if I had the tripod.

It is at Port Albert, not far from Wellsford. Kerry-Sue's grandfather is buried there, and it is 5 years since he died, so the whole family went to visit the grave today.

[Nzshrimper]

It is at Port Albert, not far from Wellsford. Kerry-Sue's grandfather is buried there, and it is 5 years since he died, so the whole family went to visit the grave today.

it certainly is a beautiful spot, you have done a good job with the capture,

the wire or rope in the front entrance way is that the bell rope?

[scotttnz]

it certainly is a beautiful spot, you have done a good job with the capture,

the wire or rope in the front entrance way is that the bell rope?

Thanks.

Yes it is the bell rope. I thought about cloning it out, but decided against it.

[Nzshrimper]

i think the two shot approach would be worth a go..

it may give you better definition in the clouds and allow the church to pop even more.

the bright spot where the sun hits the water - is there a way you could dull this a little. (it is just a tad bright.)

(if you do go back try closing the gate and the front door)

[weka2000]

OK honest feedback on this one please:
I used my tobacco grad filter for the first time, and like the effect on what would have otherwise been a grey drab sky. But I spent a while removing the effect from the church, and you can stll see the grad on the walls if you look for it.

Personally I would have gone for 3 exposures and blend. I find that the tobacco filter is good for sunsets and clouds, in places where it dosnt throw a cast as in your case on the white church.

I like the composition of the photo. You are right about getting the basics right.

Scott would that be a good spot for a bright moon light night?

[tag141]

o.k. so got a bit of a dilemma. have been here a year building a business and it's going...o.k. as you would expect from any new business starting in a place where you know no one. it's o.k. though. anyway just been offered a job managing a photo biz on a ship going from Greece to Sth America, including Egypt, Africa and Antarctica, Chile, Rio, etc etc. stopping at all places on the way- for myself and partner.


I seriously don't know what to do.

In the immortal words of Murray Walker Go, go, go....

My mother told me 'If you don't like, you can always come home.'

Never say 'If only'

On a cruise liner you wouldn't spend much money right? So bascially everything you earn is saved. Double bonus. Bit like working in a pub on a Friday night.

[theflyingkiwi]

That's a really nice shot Scott. I think if it was just a gray sky I don't think it would have the same effect. Did you managed to take a shot with out the filter?

[weka2000]

Well clean up done. Pulled a muscle in shoulder. Back is now aggrivated so looks like I will be limping tommorrow. How do we collect so much junk. Now I need to line my carport and get it all setup. Im going to take some photos of the progress.

[scotttnz]

Personally I would have gone for 3 exposures and blend. I find that the tobacco filter is good for sunsets and clouds, in places where it dosnt throw a cast as in your case on the white church.

I like the composition of the photo. You are right about getting the basics right.

Scott would that be a good spot for a bright moon light night?

I don't go for those blend/hdr things, they just don't look right to me. That sky needed more than just a different exposure, it was the most boring looking sky I have ever seen, and I like what the tobacco filter did for it, but not what it did to the church. I think the best thing to do for this shot would be set up the tripod and take one with the filter and one without as Pete suggested. Then just put the one without on a forground layer and cut it out as I did with my 2 different RAW conversions in this case.

It makes the PP process a lot easier if you get it right in the camera!

Could be a great spot on a still moonlit night, although I'm not sure I could find my way there in the dark. And I'm pretty sure the church is not lit.

[theflyingkiwi]

I went out with the camera today, to puke race way. there was an open day today and my newphew is getting in motor racing and went out testing the car. I will post some photos tomorrow me thinks.

[MHP]

That is really eye catching! Composition looks good to me, perhaps you could clone the wee bit of trees on the far left.

What happens if you take two shots, one with and one without the filter to enable the church not to become coloured? Not sure how much work that would be?

BTW where is that?

duplicate the layer and add a blue filter, might work, then mask it and take out the parts you don't want. you might have to play with the filter a bit, another way would be to desaturate the duplicate layer, this would defo work.



na we haven't made our minds up yet, un .. ahh. yeah the op is absolutely awesome, there's just a couple of factors top consider, but usually it isn't for such a totally insane itinary... as we worked on ships for a few years, we know what is entailed with the work etc. I've been offered a few contracts since being home but haven't taken a second thought on them, but i think that someone who mentioned it might be right, i might kick myself for the rest of my life with this one.

[theflyingkiwi]

a couple of the photos taken today can be found at

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2088058#post2088058

if you don't like motor sport don't bother looking :)

[MHP]

geres one look, hope its o.k to do this to your image, i'll rip it off pronto if not

[MHP]

you sould test with the grads, it coulda been good if you just lifted it up more when shooting maybe?

[tim]

Great photo Scott, I like Marks processing.

[tag141]

Oh look tumbleweed...no wait...it's 6 am you're all in bed. It's sux being in work. Only been here for 14 hours and no-one to play with.

[scotttnz]

geres one look, hope its o.k to do this to your image, i'll rip it off pronto if not

I like that. I think I tend to be lasy in my post processing. I want to get it as right as possible in camera, but that doesn't mean I can't PP it to get it better.

Watch out for version 1.1 soon.

[weka2000]

I don't go for those blend/hdr things, they just don't look right to me. That sky needed more than just a different exposure, it was the most boring looking sky I have ever seen, and I like what the tobacco filter did for it, but not what it did to the church. I think the best thing to do for this shot would be set up the tripod and take one with the filter and one without as Pete suggested. Then just put the one without on a forground layer and cut it out as I did with my 2 different RAW conversions in this case.

It makes the PP process a lot easier if you get it right in the camera!

Could be a great spot on a still moonlit night, although I'm not sure I could find my way there in the dark. And I'm pretty sure the church is not lit.

Blended exposures is not the same as HDR. With blended exposures you mask and paint through the layers.

Lets face it trying to get 1 photo that has all the exposure right on everything is impossible.

I wonder if maybe a GND may have helped as well.
Oh Scott any of the family photos any good?

[theflyingkiwi]

Oh look tumbleweed...no wait...it's 6 am you're all in bed. It's sux being in work. Only been here for 14 hours and no-one to play with.

and who says your not adidited :lol:

[scotttnz]

Blended exposures is not the same as HDR. With blended exposures you mask and paint through the layers.

Lets face it trying to get 1 photo that has all the exposure right on everything is impossible.

I wonder if maybe a GND may have helped as well.
Oh Scott any of the family photos any good?

Yeah ok. What I did was actually blending 2 different RAW conversions, so I am a hipocrite! Wonder how they managed in the days of film? :lol:

Those photos were good thanks Tony. Except I hate the way I look in photos! Thats why I hold the camera!

[dgcorner]

Playing catch up...

Scott -- given that you are taking on board all the comments, I can foresee Ver 1.1 being enlarged and put into my lounge for everyone to see. I like what Mark did with PPing the shot. However, I am still trying to get my head around the tobacco filter part. Could an orange grad give you a better colour rendition? I am thinking of getting one to play with this Tuesday at AC... we can all have a play

Mark/MHP - Go for it!!! If we didn't have kids we probably would have jumped at an opportunity like it. As Tag says you can always jump ship if you don't like what you're seeing. Just don't forget us little folk and do post spectacular sunsets from whereever you are ;-)

Tony -- I hope that your back/shoulder comes right soon. Besides, the kids wouldn't like to see the hunchback of Nortre Dame on their first day back at school ;-)

[dgcorner]

For the trip to AC on Tuesday, so far:

Me: Multi-coated UV/Skylight filter/Cokin Orange Grad/Hotshoe bubble level
Scott: Hot shoe bubble level
Tony: Hot shoe bubble level

Anyone else? Again, for your guys out of Auckland I can post things for you at cost if you are interested. PM me. ;-)

[Nzshrimper]

Oh look tumbleweed...no wait...it's 6 am you're all in bed. It's sux being in work. Only been here for 14 hours and no-one to play with.
what r u doing at 6 am having been there for 14 hrs.. and its a saturday night - sunday morning. ?

[scotttnz]

John. don't get me a level. I have spent too much on camera kit in the last month already (lens, bag, filters, battery, printing, framing), so will have to put that off for a while. Thanks for the offer.

[weka2000]

John I will make a trip in to AC. Scott I know the feeling about been in front of a camera :)

Um what do I need camera wise this pay Um better check on the 300mm F4 IS :rolleyes: $1010 now why is GLAM bidding um on sell I bet.

I see he is now selling 1D cameras

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Digital-cameras/Over-6-megapixel/auction-73116403.htm

[weka2000]

Dam prices are dropping on CF cards

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=72627917

[dgcorner]

What a bloody good day to be stuck in the store with nothing happening! I'm itching to take out the 70-200 and take the traditional duck pic... maybe this afternoon...

[weka2000]

What a bloody good day to be stuck in the store with nothing happening! I'm itching to take out the 70-200 and take the traditional duck pic... maybe this afternoon...

Makes you wish you were where you were 6 months ago :lol:

[tag141]

what r u doing at 6 am having been there for 14 hrs.. and its a saturday night - sunday morning. ?

Had to do my share of Saturday nights. Started at 4pm, officially finished at midnight but the work didn't stop. managed to get about 45 mins sleep at three but then the phone rang and it just carried on again. Eventually got out at 8am. But think of the overtime...my 40-70L will be a step nearer.

[tag141]

I see he is now selling 1D cameras

His 'buy it now' is the same price as retail stores plus retail would ship free and if you're cheeky enough they'll throw in a freebie.

[theflyingkiwi]

hey guys, I just done some testing today with my sigma 100-300. check out the results and let me know what you think

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2090497#post2090497

I would have to blame tony for making me worry about it now :) but the other reason is I have found a couple of issues some photos taken yesterday being a tad softer than what I would have expected.

I also got good use out of my 28-135 and man that thing is slow to focus. and slower than it used to be. I could focus going from a subject about a meter away to a subject several meters away. And this is on a clear day. I might have to get it looked at again. I had a problem a couple of years ago when the manual focus ring would do anything. however it would auto focus with out a problem

[weka2000]

I would have to blame tony for making me worry about it now :)
Why not everyone else does :p

[weka2000]

Well Im done working. I have cleaned the rubbish out of the whole house. Now its time for some photography but not sure what I want to do or where I want to go. Very windy out side, clouds not that great.

[weka2000]

Who want to trip out to Kitekite falls this afternoon say head off in 1 hr?

[dgcorner]

:evil: Damned !#$%^& Canon quality control!!! Finally got to open the 70-200 and what do I find... a white spec on the inner front lens!!!:evil: Back to Graham for a replacement:cry: :evil:

[Wazza]

Nice offer Mark..

Remember there's some capable photographers around if you need someone to refer to ;)

[MHP]

Nice offer Mark..

Remember there's some capable photographers around if you need someone to refer to ;)

yeah, we think we're going to go it, just got to go over the finer details over the next week or so, pretty hard to say no really, after the first one we'll go to a ship in Alaska for 6-7 months probably, get off after that season. bada bing!.

yeah, this site could come in handy, usually very busy running ships though as all the printing of dig and film is onboard and not much time on net unless for emails or work related as they pay big time for the usage of satellite.

[weka2000]

:evil: Damned !#$%^& Canon quality control!!! Finally got to open the 70-200 and what do I find... a white spec on the inner front lens!!!:evil: Back to Graham for a replacement:cry: :evil:

AC. The same place I got mine.

[Nzshrimper]

What a great day of motor racing. - Schumie has a bang of spanners for an engine ... (made me cry i feel so sorry for him) YEAH RIGHT ! and the triple 8 put in a great ford win.

[dgcorner]

AC. The same place I got mine.

Meeting with Graham tomorrow -- he will be bringing a replacement. Not bad service eh?

[Wazza]

yeah, we think we're going to go it, just got to go over the finer details over the next week or so, pretty hard to say no really, after the first one we'll go to a ship in Alaska for 6-7 months probably, get off after that season. bada bing!.

yeah, this site could come in handy, usually very busy running ships though as all the printing of dig and film is onboard and not much time on net unless for emails or work related as they pay big time for the usage of satellite.


Good stuff then.

When is the cruise ship season.. All year round, and they just port at more tropical, summer destinations?

I'd still love to do it, is it say possible to do just 4-6 months, in a cold winter over here. :p

[weka2000]

Wekas Sunday walks

Part1/3 Kitekite falls all the way to the top :lol:

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2091496#post2091496

Part 2/3 Mercer Bay

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2091577#post2091577

Part 3/3 Whites Beach Cliff sunset

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2091601#post2091601

[Wazza]

http://www.woschitz.net/

I bumped into a young man, called Marco, from Austria, when I was trying to get to the Three Sisters rocks on the West Coast before Taranaki

[weka2000]

Sandra asked if I had some blonde out west with the amount of time Im out there. Like I have time :confused:

[Wazza]

RIP Mark Porter.

I've put up a few images I had of him from April Pukekohe V8 Supercars.

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=225016
In memory. :(

[tim]

It's never nice to hear about someone you know or respect passing away.

Stupid challenge for everyone: http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2091776

[::John::]

It was a messy race at Bathurst today. Paul Radisich had a nasty accident, too. Fortunately for him, he is OK.

Safety car periods dominated the middle period of the race, with only six laps under race conditions held during the fourth hour after a massive accident for Kiwi Paul Radisich.

Radisich slammed head-on into a tyre wall and his car flipped onto the side, the driver pinned in the vehicle.

It took crews more than 20 minutes to cut him free, eventually pulling him out through the roof.

He did not suffer any serious injuries but was put into a neck brace and flown by helicopter to a Sydney hospital as a precaution because of chest and abdominal pains.

[dgcorner]

It was a messy race at Bathurst today. Paul Radisich had a nasty accident, too. Fortunately for him, he is OK.

The season didn't start off good either...:(

[theflyingkiwi]

Sandra asked if I had some blonde out west with the amount of time Im out there. Like I have time :confused:

You should have said, "now who said it had to be blond" :lol: but a comment like that might make you sleep on the couch for a couple of days :lol: :lol:

[scotttnz]

You should have said, "now who said it had to be blond" :lol: but a comment like that might make you sleep on the couch for a couple of days :lol: :lol:

How about "Well you won't pose for me!"

The obituary would read something like "Tony died doing something he loved..."

[MHP]

Good stuff then.

When is the cruise ship season.. All year round, and they just port at more tropical, summer destinations?

I'd still love to do it, is it say possible to do just 4-6 months, in a cold winter over here. :p

yeah they follow the seasons, always in summer, not always tropo though, Alaska, Norway and Antarctica can only be done in the summer months, when it goes to winter in US they move to Carribean, Pacific and Europe.

Na,It wouldn't be possible to do a short stint until you've done one or two contracts of 8- 10 mths, so you know what you're doing and you've proved your worth. It's not worth it for you or them to go a stint of 4 mths usually. We've only got the opportunity because we broke financial records the the last few ships we were on, so they know we can do a good job, we're also good friends with all in head office in NY, which always helps ;-)

[weka2000]

How about "Well you won't pose for me!"

The obituary would read something like "Tony died doing something he loved..."

She hasnt killed me after 12 years. Some people cant figure out why I like to spend so much time in the ranges. Is so ruggard and beautiful. The adventure and discovery to be had :lol:

[theflyingkiwi]

She hasnt killed me after 12 years. Some people cant figure out why I like to spend so much time in the ranges. Is so ruggard and beautiful. The adventure and discovery to be had :lol:

Well then perhaps you should drag your wife along and you have a 3 some. You, wife and teh ranges :) :lol:

[Wazza]

yeah they follow the seasons, always in summer, not always tropo though, Alaska, Norway and Antarctica can only be done in the summer months, when it goes to winter in US they move to Carribean, Pacific and Europe.

Na,It wouldn't be possible to do a short stint until you've done one or two contracts of 8- 10 mths, so you know what you're doing and you've proved your worth. It's not worth it for you or them to go a stint of 4 mths usually. We've only got the opportunity because we broke financial records the the last few ships we were on, so they know we can do a good job, we're also good friends with all in head office in NY, which always helps ;-)

8-10 months still wouldn't be bad.

However I've got bookings until March ;)

What does the job usually entail?

Working directly for them, for their services? They control the pricing and give you a salary? Plus obviously a free bed, (free food?)

I'm being serious long term, if I find something impractical out, I'll have to scrap the idea. :cool:

[theflyingkiwi]

Warren, you need to clear some of your pm, just tried to send ya one and it came back saying that you have reach your limit

[Wazza]

Already have mate ;)

Too many forum members PM me. A lot of random questions from when I post pics up... What filter, what lens, how is NZ.. and then a few from the GKPE group, lol

[weka2000]

Well then perhaps you should drag your wife along and you have a 3 some. You, wife and teh ranges :) :lol:

What about the kids. Most of my adventures are not that kind. Mountain goat ventures. I have enough trouble getting other people to come with me. Seems I am ment to do this alone :cry:

I have started to sort out my Summer visits. All the spots I cant fet to at the moment due to water levels. I am going to make a raft (inflated car tire) with a deck so I can swim across the pools to get to the other side.

I need some rope to climb down with as well. The best photos are the ones no one else gets :lol:

MattL have you done any absailing up at Kitekite falls?

[MattL]

Nope, Not yet. I imagine ill come out there one day.

[weka2000]

Nope, Not yet. I imagine ill come out there one day.

Looks quite a buzz and wet.

MattL here is a company that runs the absailing

http://www.awoladventures.co.nz/gallery.htm.

Anyone recommend a good water proof camera :lol:

[MHP]

8-10 months still wouldn't be bad.

However I've got bookings until March ;)

What does the job usually entail?

Working directly for them, for their services? They control the pricing and give you a salary? Plus obviously a free bed, (free food?)

I'm being serious long term, if I find something impractical out, I'll have to scrap the idea. :cool:

You work for a photographic company who positions you on a ship.called a concession company. they control everything. pricing structures etc. the payment is based on a percentage- the photographers get x percentage of the takings, or if the ship isn't a big earner, then they have a base wage, but even on them, if you go over a certain amount you get a percentage. It is big business, big ships consist of 8-9 photographers and the photo dept turn over for a ship can be around 1 mil a year. Because of this there is a hierachy system for the photographers. 1- manager, 2- assistant/ lab manager, 3- shop manager, photographers- 4,5,6,7,8,9. percentages go down as you get lower, but you might walk on at 9, and because people go on and off in their contracts all the time, you might walk off in 10 mths at #4 or #5. in the height of the season a #9 could make $400-600 tax free USD a week, a manager over $1000.00, the rest inbetween. Living arrangements are usually 2-3 person cabins unless you're a Manager, then you get your own cabin. whats free? food, living, $1 a day gets your clothes all washed and ironed etc. you have no bills so all the $ is there to save or spend as you want. Being a photographer you get to go where ever you want on the ship, if you want to go out on the deck to view the sites you can etc. not like if you were a chef. you also sometimes have to photograph people on tours when the ship goes to port, so you go to see the sites for free!

It is hard work, and you are on the go a lot, photographing a lot, it becomes repetative , but then all photography businesses are.

what do you get out of it? Imagine this, a simple day-

shoots-
7-10am - gangway(having to shoot with a bright morning, big white ship in quarter photo, people/ blue sky other half) meter it, set your flash etc.

wedding- 12.00 images around ship in and out, groups, singles, couple, cake etc..

3.00 set up lights and b/g for portraits

4.00 work 2 hours in shop

6.30-10.30- shoot portraits (using one of- existing staircase/green screen background/ normal background)

pack up lights and go to shop to put photos on wall, finish at approx 11.30pm


every day is different, but that could be one.


all design work/printing and processing/everything you can think of that is needed to run a business, is onboard or done onboard.

so what you get out of it is this... you do in 10 months what would take 2-4 years to learn, and only in bits here and bits there. you learn whats needed in running a photographic business. you learn how to do all this stuff, the ship businesses are at the forefront of the digital sphere, they have to be, they have borders around the photos for some images, the borders are made on the ship, and they can be anything, graphics/design/images/ you name it.

It is really hard to put into words but I have done a group image of over 400 people, weddings, corporate portraits and images, food.. you name it!

you go to all these places, and get your images, I have dvd's stacked with all of my images, all from different places in the world, my website is designed to my market here, so anyone going on it will never see the insane images i have from all over the world, one day a gallery...


not to mention the girls!! You can play it how you want, but half of the crew are obvioulsy girls, photogs are 'the catch' especially kiwi ones! :-) I have addresses all over the world, i'm seriously not kidding, but, I have met my dream girl and so i have no need.

Theres good all over it, but the downside is .. work, work, work. after 10 mths you really want to get off the ship, you're run down and over worked, but you have a pocket full of cash and have been to some awesome places!

when i first went to my first ship it was in Hawaii, I walked up to this behemoth of a ship(2500 passengers) going 'oh my god'! got shown my room and freaked out it was so small, i was bummed i had spent the money on tickets to get there and now wanted to go home, but I'm a goer and don't like being defeated so I decided right, i'll give this 1 month, get my money back and decide if i want to stay. the question never hit my mind again after a week, i had an awesome time, had a blast and met some awesome people(Zoe included). I brought a Eos 1n, an Eos3, some lenses while on there, paid my debt off and went to OZ, bought a Kombi and cruised the coast surfing and taking photos for 3-4mths. then onto 2 more contracts, now i am at Manager level so obviously things are easier in a way, and i get paid more.

I got lucky, I went on them when they needed good Mangars, I had come from doing portraits and running my own business here in NZ, so i moved up fast, i think tough that any Kiwi would move up fast as we have that common sence and a go get it attitude without complaint that is needed. If you're a complainer(which you don't seem to be), then forget it, stay home and build your empire.

whew :-D :-D

[weka2000]

Just got off the phone to awol adventures. The only way into that gorge is via rope and you get wet.

So how do I keep my gear dry. Water proof housing way to expesive. Cheap water proof camera no RAW and lack of lens.

He was saying its about 150mtrs long and its hard thus thats why he picked it.

[Wazza]

Thanks for that, very informative. :)

Off to work I go..

I'd seriously prefer that job, than my current finance job. :p

So weddings, portraits, and no doubt scene shots..

All images you took, belong to you? And releases for people? Or you only keep what you privately took with your own camera? :p

Cya soon from work

[MHP]

like i said, big business, the companies have contracts with the ship companies, anyone who steps foot on the ship is agreeing to being photographed, you can keep what you took with your camera, obviously they will want copies of your scenics too as you are working for them at the time and they can be used or sold.

weddings.portraits, scenics, and more, and more, and more, I can't think of something i haven't photographed

[weka2000]

Mattl how good are you with absailing down areas that have not been setup for absailing?? A tree would be your anchor.

[MattL]

I could get you down there.. and could take my 300d in its waterproof case, would be able to fit something like a 17-40 in there too - then when your down there you just need to find somewhere dry to get it out.

Whats the storey on getting out?

[weka2000]

I could get you down there.. and could take my 300d in its waterproof case, would be able to fit something like a 17-40 in there too - then when your down there you just need to find somewhere dry to get it out.

Whats the storey on getting out?

Getting out? There is also one at Karekare its a drop in to a pool of water I want to get to the top of Karekare falls cant climb up it so have to go down it :lol:

I need to take out life insurance for Sandra but I am affraid they will think im nuts and wack up the premiums :rolleyes:

There are 3 main issues.
1)getting down
2)keeping gear dry
3)finding a spot to shoot from that is dry.

Found underwater housings between $1500-3500 USD for the 5D dam thats expensive. Plastic bag and hope I dont rip it :)

Matt when are you normally free for adventures

[MattL]

Well abseiling is a very one way ticket.. Its easy to get down, but to get back up is the hard part. There needs to be some way of walking out from the bottom, or the bottom of the next fall.

[Wazza]

www.ewa-marine.de

Search for your model, and buy off BHPhotovideo, approx US$350 there. ;)
Much better

[weka2000]

Well abseiling is a very one way ticket.. Its easy to get down, but to get back up is the hard part. There needs to be some way of walking out from the bottom, or the bottom of the next fall.

Yes I see your point. Reminds me of climbing up something is way easyier than climbing back down. Looks like I need to think about this idea more.

Wazza I see they have a max of 72mm filter so my 17-40 70-200 are 77mm. Will look into this model some more. I dont mind getting wet just dont want to fry a 5D :(

[Moppie]

Nearly 600 pages, man we can yak!

[theflyingkiwi]

yea but you notice most of it's about nothing. I sometimes wonder what others thing of a small group of kiwis chatting about photography + other stuff.

[weka2000]

Some more than others. In my defence I post more photos to :lol:
Would be intresting to see the yak to posting photos ratio.

[Moppie]

Im pretty bad on the photo posting front, infact Iv got some serious catching up to do.

[CliveyBoy]

Found underwater housings between $1500-3500 USD for the 5D dam thats expensive. Plastic bag and hope I dont rip it

Look at the Sea to Summit kayakers' bags. They are great for the job. I use a tubular 13L one, made of waterproof cordura. Cost about NZ$32 from a Christchurch retailer via Trademe.

It weighs only an ounce+ and is part of my camera bag gear. I have used it in squalls on a boat, putting my hand and camera into it ready for the next shot. Also good for wind-blown sand. My daughter uses one when she and her husband double-kayak. He paddles while she shoots seabirds around Mangere with her 70-200mm f2.8 IS lens on a 20D. The bag can be closed right around that lot.

[weka2000]

Look at the Sea to Summit kayakers' bags. They are great for the job. I use a tubular 13L one, made of waterproof cordura. Cost about NZ$32 from a Christchurch retailer via Trademe.

It weighs only an ounce+ and is part of my camera bag gear. I have used it in squalls on a boat, putting my hand and camera into it ready for the next shot. Also good for wind-blown sand. My daughter uses one when she and her husband double-kayak. He paddles while she shoots seabirds around Mangere with her 70-200mm f2.8 IS lens on a 20D. The bag can be closed right around that lot.

So I have my camera in one of these it falls into the water will my camera get wet?

If this is the case that they stay dry then I could use them. Most people stay on the beaten track. I want to get where no one else goes.

These waterfall adventures are going to be turned into a book so its not just a hobby, there is a purpose. Most of the books are about the walking tracks mine is about the water ways.

[CliveyBoy]

So I have my camera in one of these it falls into the water will my camera get wet?
I think my daughter has roll-tested the bag, but it is not sealed for immersion pressure. I'll check. Some multi-sport stores in AK do stock them - go see.

Are you doing just Waitakeres falls? There could be some good ones on the Waitawheta Stream where it drops from Dickies Flat (Park entrance) in Waihi to the Karangahake Gorge. There is an access track all the way down. If the next GKPE is to Waihi you may well want to try that!

[MHP]

I think my daughter has roll-tested the bag, but it is not sealed for immersion pressure. I'll check. Some multi-sport stores in AK do stock them - go see.

Are you doing just Waitakeres falls? There could be some good ones on the Waitawheta Stream where it drops from Dickies Flat (Park entrance) in Waihi to the Karangahake Gorge. There is an access track all the way down. If the next GKPE is to Waihi you may well want to try that!

funny, i drove through there the other day and thought the K gorge would be a good GKPE for yas, on the Akl side there is a bridge going over and if you walk down the field from there a bit theres like this old concrete factory or something.. ruins. theres a lot down there for photography, waterfalls galore without too much trouble, the bridge, etc etc

[weka2000]

Yep just the Waitaks. I think there is enough to keep me going for 5yrs. We are taking going up the streams the hard way not this park on the side of the road take photo and say you have captured the waterfall. Where does it start what else is up there. I go out in the pouring rain to take my photos, waterfalls in flood.

Everytime I go out im scouting the area, finding best time for the sun, I walk up as far as I can then work out how to cross, go over around the obsatcle. The job is done when I got to the top and there is no more water.

[dgcorner]

Got the replacement 70-200IS -- Graham sure is a cool dude to deal with. I should be able to post a couple of pics after my job interview, and trip to AC at midday tomorrow. I have Tuesdays & WEdnesdays off so I can probably go shoot some ducks ;-)

[weka2000]

Got the replacement 70-200IS -- Graham sure is a cool dude to deal with. I should be able to post a couple of pics after my job interview, and trip to AC at midday tomorrow. I have Tuesdays & WEdnesdays off so I can probably go shoot some ducks ;-)


Whats the job ?

[Nzshrimper]

I have Tuesdays & WEdnesdays off so I can probably go shoot some ducks ;-)


Its not duck season .. think of the little ones.... ;)

whooa page 600..:rolleyes:

[tag141]

This is just a random post as a bookmark. I'm off to Taupo tomorrow for four days. Guess you'll be up to page 700 by Saturday afternoon when I get back.

[theflyingkiwi]

Its not duck season .. think of the little ones.... ;)

whooa page 600..:rolleyes:

You know I have never shot ducks with my sigma. I am going to be sending it off tomorrow. I hope it comes back fixed.

I have got my settings for this place to show 50 posts per page. So I am only one page 180. Still there are a few thousands posts and counting.

[Nzshrimper]

i prefer a shotgun or a rifle. My Labrador, cant chase the photos. :D its almost bunny hunting and fishing season.

[scotttnz]

Got the replacement 70-200IS -- Graham sure is a cool dude to deal with. I should be able to post a couple of pics after my job interview, and trip to AC at midday tomorrow. I have Tuesdays & WEdnesdays off so I can probably go shoot some ducks ;-)

John, I'm glad you got your lens sorted.

Whats the interview for?

I have observed that it is much easier to get a job if you already have one! Good luck!

[rabsoft]

Sitting on the ferry wishing I had my camera with me, there is a nice patch of blue over akl city with dark gray clouds all around and a rainbow in the middle, light and dark shadows so great for a nice photo :(

[scotttnz]

Sitting on the ferry wishing I had my camera with me, there is a nice patch of blue over akl city with dark gray clouds all around and a rainbow in the middle, light and dark shadows so great for a nice photo :(

Show off!

I had to bring the car in today, so I'm already at work. Should be back on the ferry tommorrow.

[FlyingPete]

Sitting on the ferry wishing I had my camera with me, there is a nice patch of blue over akl city with dark gray clouds all around and a rainbow in the middle, light and dark shadows so great for a nice photo :(

Use your camera phone, afterall who needs an SLR :lol:

[theflyingkiwi]

Sitting on the ferry wishing I had my camera with me, there is a nice patch of blue over akl city with dark gray clouds all around and a rainbow in the middle, light and dark shadows so great for a nice photo :(

now who says that point and shots are pointless :) oops I mean compacts. This way you can still take some decent photos but without the need for a bulky slr

[dgcorner]

Chris: It is duck season anytime of the year -- all you need is a silencer ;-)

Tag: Have fun! And of course, show us the proof of the pudding ;-) Looking forward to your posts;

Tony: Been with Hill & Stewart for the last 5 weeks. So far I am enjoying it. BUT, I do have issues with my potential earnings... which will be 1/4 of what I used to earn -- I wouldn't want to be running to WINZ for a top up! I would prefer to be working hard and paid well, rather than working hard and getting paid change. Besides, 19 years successful years in sales & marketing should account for something.

MarkC: I hope your lens is good... I know the feeling when the lens craps out on you.

Scott: Thanks! Graham is a pleasure dealing with. I guess that one has to look past the fact that he doesn't have a "shop front" though he does have a jewellry shop in Parnell. Interview is with a "lubrication company" in the North Shore. They seem to have run out of engineers with sales backgrounds and they are looking at other sales & marketing fields to fill their need.

Mark/rabsoft: Stop thinking of getting the new 10MP mobile phone!!! ;-)

[rabsoft]

Show off!

I had to bring the car in today, so I'm already at work. Should be back on the ferry tommorrow.

You may want to keep driving in for the rest of the week as Fullers seem to have had a few problems with there boats over the last few days and are now 5 boats down, so had a taxi to work and home yesterday all paid for by fullers :) and fullers had to hire another boat to take us to work today and I think we have a bus provided tonight to get home and from what I have heard I think it will be the same for the rest of the week :(

[scotttnz]

You may want to keep driving in for the rest of the week as Fullers seem to have had a few problems with there boats over the last few days and are now 5 boats down, so had a taxi to work and home yesterday all paid for by fullers :) and fullers had to hire another boat to take us to work today and I think we have a bus provided tonight to get home and from what I have heard I think it will be the same for the rest of the week :(

Bummer! Wanna car pool?

[joeseph]

Chris: It is duck season anytime of the year -- all you need is a silencer ;-)

Ducks? see story #3 :rolleyes:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/search/story.cfm?storyid=0009D63F-82A2-1528-801183027AF10132

[FlyingPete]

Ducks? see story #3 :rolleyes:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/search/story.cfm?storyid=0009D63F-82A2-1528-801183027AF10132


And you had nothing to do with that at all ;)

[rabsoft]

Bummer! Wanna car pool?

Yeah could do will give ya a call later

and on a side note 9000 posts in this thread !!!

[NordieBoy]

And it's now 9000 replies as well!

:)

[FlyingPete]

We have a 30" Dell Widescreen in here to evaulate, hmmm Imax on the desktop, it even has card readers in the side, I want...