GKPE: General Ramblings thread

[weka2000]

oopps and he went offline... :(

I have a copy of how to win freinds and infulence people. I got a new copy at work "How not to make frends and infurate people" Its worked really well with the teachers :)
They all leave me alone which gives me time to read about photography and edit my photos.

[Nzshrimper]

[suspicious nature] Why? [/suspicious nature]



It's all good after all we are both in this hemisphere now but imagine calling a Kiwi an Aussie. You'd have to wash your mouth out with XXXX.

hey i know that feeling being Irish with an English accent..

[NordieBoy]

If they don't I might be able to lend you bigma and even a 2x TC. Manual focus with the TC on though. It does take a fine picture...

http://tph1.orcon.net.nz/teretonga.jpg

That's your "naughty" photo :shock:

[theflyingkiwi]

[suspicious nature] Why? [/suspicious nature]

It's all good after all we are both in this hemisphere now but imagine calling a Kiwi an Aussie. You'd have to wash your mouth out with XXXX.

Oh I am just being nosey. nothing major. what you fail to understand is that at some point when I have asked you a thousand questions one of then would be

"what's your visa card #"

and then I would have a new camera to play with. :lol: :lol:

[scotttnz]

Mark, got you PSD working yet? I'm having trouble getting the hard drive formatted.

[weka2000]

Oh I am just being nosey. nothing major. what you fail to understand is that at some point when I have asked you a thousand questions one of then would be

"what's your visa card #"

and then I would have a new camera to play with. :lol: :lol:
You dont need a new camera just some desent glass :p
Hey did you do any of those lens tests?

[weka2000]

Hey dads we havnt seen any baby pics for a while :lol:
How are the little ones?

[scotttnz]

OK, part 3:

I ran into some issues formatting my hard drive for use in the Storage Bank. The device is only compatible with Fat drive formats, and my disk was formatted as NTFS. You can use it as a portable hard drive in NTFS format, but it will not copy from the card reader to hard drive unless the drive is FAT of some description. Now that’s fine, but Windows XP has issues formatting a FAT32 partition over 32Gb and my drive is 40Gb. The cd supplied with the PSD has a utility which is supposed to format FAT32 partitions bigger than 32GB, but I couldn’t get it to work. I couldn’t create a partion smaller than the whole drive in the PSD either. Eventually I put the drive in another usb enclosure, created a 32Gb partition, and formatted it as FAT32, reinstalled the drive in the PSD, and that seems to be working. I can live with the smaller capacity, but will have more of a play later to see if I can get back the other 8Gb.

To test performance I dumped 187 RAW images onto a CF card and timed a download. That’s 1.48Gb. So far it has been running almost 15 minutes and I am going to bed.

More testing tomorrow, but it is not looking good at the moment!

[tag141]

That's your "naughty" photo :shock:

Yes it is. :evil:

"what's your visa card #"

4929 46...ah I see what you mean. :confused:

[scotttnz]

Part 4.

To test performance I dumped 187 RAW images onto a CF card and timed a download. That’s 1.48Gb. It took around 30 minutes. (I say around because I got tired of waiting and left the room, when I came back it was finished.) Thats slow. I'd say a full 2Gb card would take around 40 minutes at that rate.

Battery life doesn't look too hot either. I doubt if you would get through 2 2Gb card before the battery runs out.

So, in conclusion, I would not recommend this device for "in the field" downloading of CF cards. It is just too slow, and battery life is unsufficient. If you wanted to make 2 copies of a 2Gb CF card to be safe it would take over an hour and you would probably run out of battery before the second copy was finished.

The 32Gb limit is a bit of a pain, but if I can find a Win98SE/WinME machine, apparently I can format the whole 40Gb disk with it.

I'm going to keep the device, because since I got my 2Gb CF I have not filled up both cards (1Gb + 2Gb) in a day out. And where this device will be usefull to me is when I am away for a couple of days or more with no computer, but access to power. I'll be able to download my pics overnight and have fresh CFs the next day. I'm going to try to get a cigarette lighter adapter for it too.

So if you already have a 2.5" HDD lying around, want a basic PSU, and can live with these limitations, for $25 why not? But if you want something to download in the field, and need something fast, save your money and get something else.

[dgcorner]

Part 4.

To test performance I dumped 187 RAW images onto a CF card and timed a download. That’s 1.48Gb. It took around 30 minutes. (I say around because I got tired of waiting and left the room, when I came back it was finished.) Thats slow. I'd say a full 2Gb card would take around 40 minutes at that rate.

Battery life doesn't look too hot either. I doubt if you would get through 2 2Gb card before the battery runs out.

So, in conclusion, I would not recommend this device for "in the field" downloading of CF cards. It is just too slow, and battery life is unsufficient. If you wanted to make 2 copies of a 2Gb CF card to be safe it would take over an hour and you would probably run out of battery before the second copy was finished.

The 32Gb limit is a bit of a pain, but if I can find a Win98SE/WinME machine, apparently I can format the whole 40Gb disk with it.

I'm going to keep the device, because since I got my 2Gb CF I have not filled up both cards (1Gb + 2Gb) in a day out. And where this device will be usefull to me is when I am away for a couple of days or more with no computer, but access to power. I'll be able to download my pics overnight and have fresh CFs the next day. I'm going to try to get a cigarette lighter adapter for it too.

So if you already have a 2.5" HDD lying around, want a basic PSU, and can live with these limitations, for $25 why not? But if you want something to download in the field, and need something fast, save your money and get something else.

Thanks for that one Scott! Looks like I was lucky with my TM purchase for a PSD case... then again, I only have 20gb on it which is quite sufficient for a 2 month trip...

[FlyingPete]

Part 4.

To test performance I dumped 187 RAW images onto a CF card and timed a download. That’s 1.48Gb. It took around 30 minutes. (I say around because I got tired of waiting and left the room, when I came back it was finished.) Thats slow. I'd say a full 2Gb card would take around 40 minutes at that rate.

Battery life doesn't look too hot either. I doubt if you would get through 2 2Gb card before the battery runs out.

So, in conclusion, I would not recommend this device for "in the field" downloading of CF cards. It is just too slow, and battery life is unsufficient. If you wanted to make 2 copies of a 2Gb CF card to be safe it would take over an hour and you would probably run out of battery before the second copy was finished.

The 32Gb limit is a bit of a pain, but if I can find a Win98SE/WinME machine, apparently I can format the whole 40Gb disk with it.

I'm going to keep the device, because since I got my 2Gb CF I have not filled up both cards (1Gb + 2Gb) in a day out. And where this device will be usefull to me is when I am away for a couple of days or more with no computer, but access to power. I'll be able to download my pics overnight and have fresh CFs the next day. I'm going to try to get a cigarette lighter adapter for it too.

So if you already have a 2.5" HDD lying around, want a basic PSU, and can live with these limitations, for $25 why not? But if you want something to download in the field, and need something fast, save your money and get something else.

Interesting. Can't beat the price though! My two year old X's Drive does 1GB in 5 minutes, and a verify in another 5 minutes, battery life is good for at least 8 1GB downloads. It can format the drive too getting around the 32GB limit, however it costs $120US without postage and drive.

Would still work really well for holidays, esspecially where you have a mains supply, just do the download when you get back to the room at the end of the day, at that price you could get two for DR (BTW I am serious here, what happened if your drive got stolen/dropped/crashed on the last day of a holiday with several 1000 images on it?). Better than lugging a laptop around.

[Moppie]

Cheers Scott!
If its safe to carry around while its down loading, then you could just let it run while you keep shooting, and power it off an external battery.
But I don't know a hell of a lot about lap top HDD's or how shock resistant they are.



Does anyone want a Nifty?
I think Glam is trying to increase their value in the market:

Used: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=76027381
New: http://www.aucklandcamera.com/product.php?id=10237

Hmmmm, which would you buy?

[dgcorner]

Does anyone want a Nifty?
I think Glam is trying to increase their value in the market:

Used: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=76027381
New: http://www.aucklandcamera.com/product.php?id=10237

Hmmmm, which would you buy?

:lol: :lol: :lol: That is odd. Graham normally prices his lenses quite reasonably... well maybe if not on TM...:lol:

[theflyingkiwi]

You dont need a new camera just some desent glass :p
Hey did you do any of those lens tests?

Nope I haven't done any tests yet. the closed focus point of the lens is 1.8m so I would need to print a big version of that test page.

[weka2000]

So Vitas on the way. Whos is upgrading and will you have to buy a new PC?

Im still working out what I will do. At this stage Im looking at holding fire. If anyone knows where I can get 2x1gig RAMBUS sticks from at a steal let me know, other wise I have to buy a whole new PC :cry:
Personally I would rather buy a "L" lens :lol:

[rabsoft]

Mark, got you PSD working yet? I'm having trouble getting the hard drive formatted.

I had the same problem so went to dos to try formating it

format x: /fs:fat

it took ages and didn't work so tried

format x: /fs:fat32

also took ages and didn't seem to work, I have reformated the drive in a usb enclosure as ntfs and the drive works fine, ended up going to bed and leaveing it will try again tonight

[Moppie]

So Vitas on the way. Whos is upgrading and will you have to buy a new PC?



Why?
I don't really care about Vista, I know it won't run on my PC, but I also can't think of anything in it that I need. XP does more than I need.
Unless some really good Vista only content comes out Ill stick with XP and my old PC.
If some really good Vista pnly content does come out, then it will be time to upgrade, by which stage dual core and 64bit will be common and at a reasonable price, and Vista will be easy to get, if you know what I mean ;)

[FlyingPete]

But I don't know a hell of a lot about lap top HDD's or how shock resistant they are.


Not very shock resistant whilst running, wouldn't want to be running around with one while downloading. Most 'portable' style drives park the heads after a few seconds of inactivity, the microdrives do after a few milliseconds.

Why?
I don't really care about Vista, I know it won't run on my PC, but I also can't think of anything in it that I need. XP does more than I need.
Unless some really good Vista only content comes out Ill stick with XP and my old PC.
If some really good Vista pnly content does come out, then it will be time to upgrade, by which stage dual core and 64bit will be common and at a reasonable price, and Vista will be easy to get, if you know what I mean ;)

Yep. Ran it up at home and here at work, lots of eyecandy, but that was about it. It uses over 500MB of RAM before loading any applications! It does have some speed enhancing features that about offset the loss from the heavier OS :rolleyes:

The biggest negative is the licencing, my helpful MS guy here tells me that certain hardware changes such as a motherboard will require you to purchase a new licence, so there goes upgrades :evil:

[theflyingkiwi]

So Vitas on the way. Whos is upgrading and will you have to buy a new PC?

Not I. I 2nd what moppie said. From what I have seen it's nothing to rave about.

[Moppie]

The biggest negative is the licencing, my helpful MS guy here tells me that certain hardware changes such as a motherboard will require you to purchase a new licence, so there goes upgrades :evil:

If true it will put a LOT of people off.
I can't afford a whole new system every two years, so rely on being able to upgrade. If I can't do that then why would I want to pay for Vista?
Sounds like someone at MS has been sleeping with someone at Dell, as if their consumer machines weren't hard enough to upgrade already.

[weka2000]

Vista will be easy to get, if you know what I mean ;)

I have no idea what you are saying ;)

[FlyingPete]

If true it will put a LOT of people off.
I can't afford a whole new system every two years, so rely on being able to upgrade. If I can't do that then why would I want to pay for Vista?
Sounds like someone at MS has been sleeping with someone at Dell, as if their consumer machines weren't hard enough to upgrade already.

The "fringe" community should have a resolution for us by then ;)

The latest version of Fedora looks good, run WINE on that and you can keep all your favourite apps!

[theflyingkiwi]

I have no idea what you are saying ;)

Hey I am the slow one around here :)

[weka2000]

My home PC is a Intel 2.0 with 384 RAMBUS. So Im out for vista. All I want is 2gig of RAM for CS2 and all my photowork. Need tosweet talk my boss and get my laptop RAM upgraded to 2 gig for work reasons of course

[FlyingPete]

My home PC is a Intel 2.0 with 384 RAMBUS. So Im out for vista. All I want is 2gig of RAM for CS2 and all my photowork. Need tosweet talk my boss and get my laptop RAM upgraded to 2 gig for work reasons of course

You need to get the machine up to spec for Vista so you can "evaulate" it for the school, oh and you need it before Vista comes out, as prices will all go up with demand ;)

EDIT: Actually if you need RAM build a case for running Virtual Machines, do that first then say you need more RAM, works most of the time :D

[theflyingkiwi]

hey do you guys know anything about how to monitor files that are currently open on a windows xp desktop. Trying to uninstall sap and it coming up with file that's open but there are no current apps running, or running in the background.

[weka2000]

ok lets see if Firefox can help my spelling. We all know I cant spell to save my self

I see the rumour mill has started up re 30/5D replacements next year
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=217220&page=9

[FlyingPete]

Just got another photo job to do, more product shooting, this time for a gormet bakery, loafs of bread, will contribute to that new lens :D

Looks like the old product shooting pipeline has reopened, a graphic artist I used to do product shooting for is back in business after starting a family.

[FlyingPete]

hey do you guys know anything about how to monitor files that are currently open on a windows xp desktop. Trying to uninstall sap and it coming up with file that's open but there are no current apps running, or running in the background.

I do have a tool at home to do that, the dirty way around it though is to kill the explorer process and restart it by starting a new process - explorer.exe

[tag141]

I'll go with the above about Vista. Nothing greater than XP at the moment. I have the RC from MS but uninstalled them. I wanted to run Vista 64 but there isn't a 64bit raw viewer.

[theflyingkiwi]

I do have a tool at home to do that, the dirty way around it though is to kill the explorer process and restart it by starting a new process - explorer.exe

I tried to find something on the net, but couldn't. Ohh well I just decided to reimage the machine. that's the quickest way around the problem.

[dgcorner]

So, how the heck did you guys get your designations changed? I like Tony's... and Mark's ;-)

[FlyingPete]

So, how the heck did you guys get your designations changed? I like Tony's... and Mark's ;-)

Loiter on the thread of doom, but be careful or you will end up with a dumb one like mine :rolleyes:

[Moppie]

Loiter on the thread of doom, but be careful or you will end up with a dumb one like mine :rolleyes:


Or mine. <img>

[weka2000]

Just got another photo job to do, more product shooting, this time for a gormet bakery, loafs of bread, will contribute to that new lens :D

Looks like the old product shooting pipeline has reopened, a graphic artist I used to do product shooting for is back in business after starting a family.

What lens you going to get Pete? Ah there i nothing like new glass :lol:

[theflyingkiwi]

Loiter on the thread of doom, but be careful or you will end up with a dumb one like mine :rolleyes:

Or mine. <img>

well if you enter that thread and start bragging what do you expect. I say a simple comment and what do I get a new title.

[DiscoLizard]

Vista - I'll skip it. All the nonsense about licences... I'm going to check out Ubuntu soon, and when I can no longer do what I want on XP, I'll look at either a Mac, or a Ubuntu machine. And I'll be taking the office with me ;-)

[Moppie]

well if you enter that thread and start bragging what do you expect. I say a simple comment and what do I get a new title.


I wasn't bragging, i was drunk :p

I can't even find my post in the thread now, its gotten so long.



Edit: Ok, I found it, its on page 88.
I also found this: moppie should become know as 'nissed as a pewt'

[theflyingkiwi]

I wasn't bragging, i was drunk :p

I can't even find my post in the thread now, its gotten so long.



Edit: Ok, I found it, its on page 88.
I also found this:

yea I know that. I just couldn't be bothered trying to type it out.

[FlyingPete]

well if you enter that thread and start bragging what do you expect. I say a simple comment and what do I get a new title.

Yeah I was digging for 'Dr Evil' though :(

What lens you going to get Pete? Ah there i nothing like new glass :lol:

The lens I use the most is my 28-105 f/3.5-4.5. Its short comings for me have been the wide end (I often have to use my EFS 'kit' to cover), sharpness wideopen and hand holdablity in low light.

From this I have decided that the 24-105L f/4 IS is the best bet, wider at 24mm (still may need the kit lens though, but hopefully less often - will move to a 10-22 at some point to cover the gap :) ), sharper, slightly brighter at the long end and IS to help with hand holdablity. Only downside is it is quite a bit heavier!

[dgcorner]

Help! I bought one of those hard, plastic lens hoods for my Nifty since the rubber ones were not providing enough protection. I picked this one up in the used hood pile for $3.00 at AC (Asahi Opt Co. Japan 52mm) On the other side of the hood, it says "Standard lens 1:1.2 -1.4 50mm 1:1.8 55mm. This fits well.

Now my problem is: where the heck do I find a 68mm lens cap??? From looking around there are 67mm and 70mm ones available... but no 68mm ones. I am saying 68mm since that is the approximate diameter measurement I am getting...

Anyone have a 67mm lens cap that I can borrow to test?

Cheers!

[Nzshrimper]

Or mine. <img>
i think i had something to do with yours Moppie - Sorry.. and Tinkerbells.. ;)

[dgcorner]

Yeah I was digging for 'Dr Evil' though :(



The lens I use the most is my 28-105 f/3.5-4.5. Its short comings for me have been the wide end (I often have to use my EFS 'kit' to cover), sharpness wideopen and hand holdablity in low light.

From this I have decided that the 24-105L f/4 IS is the best bet, wider at 24mm (still may need the kit lens though, but hopefully less often - will move to a 10-22 at some point to cover the gap :) ), sharper, slightly brighter at the long end and IS to help with hand holdablity. Only downside is it is quite a bit heavier!

Pete, you can borrow the 17-40 if you want to have a go. I found that I was shooting in the 17-18mm range of the 10-20/22 so I opted for this range instead.

[FlyingPete]

Pete, you can borrow the 17-40 if you want to have a go. I found that I was shooting in the 17-18mm range of the 10-20/22 so I opted for this range instead.

I find I am mainly shooting people so work between the 28-105 and the 70-200, it is when I am doing landscapes that I find I am needing something wider which is not often, in fact mainly on GKPEs! Might take you up on that offer though!

[Nzshrimper]

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[weka2000]

Yeah I was digging for 'Dr Evil' though :(



The lens I use the most is my 28-105 f/3.5-4.5. Its short comings for me have been the wide end (I often have to use my EFS 'kit' to cover), sharpness wideopen and hand holdablity in low light.

From this I have decided that the 24-105L f/4 IS is the best bet, wider at 24mm (still may need the kit lens though, but hopefully less often - will move to a 10-22 at some point to cover the gap :) ), sharper, slightly brighter at the long end and IS to help with hand holdablity. Only downside is it is quite a bit heavier!

You know anyone who has one you could test :lol:

[Moppie]

i think i had something to do with yours Moppie - Sorry.. and Tinkerbells.. ;)

Apology accepted, especially since now its summer its not a totally inaccurate statement :)

Who got Tinkerbells?

[weka2000]

Tested the 24-105 and its fine except for vignetting at the F4 across the range :evil:....time to upgrade :lol:

[FlyingPete]

Tested the 24-105 and its fine except for vignetting at the F4 across the range :evil:....time to upgrade :lol:

Eh? That is on the 5D I take it? What does it do hood off?

[Nzshrimper]

Apology accepted, especially since now its summer its not a totally inaccurate statement :)

Who got Tinkerbells?

disco lizard.. is now know as ... Tinkerbell asking for trouble....

[DiscoLizard]

:mad: I never look for trouble.

[weka2000]

Eh? That is on the 5D I take it? What does it do hood off?
That was with the hood off :evil:. Its all gone by F8, hell I brought a 30D for the bigma to get rid of that ones issue. Looks like "L" primes :lol: 24, 35, 50, 85

[FlyingPete]

That was with the hood off :evil:. Its all gone by F8, hell I brought a 30D for the bigma to get rid of that ones issue. Looks like "L" primes :lol: 24, 35, 50, 85

Better get the superglue remover out...

[dgcorner]

Is it worth getting the Canon extension tubes over the Kenko ones? There are a couple on TM I am seriously considering...

[Moppie]

Is it worth getting the Canon extension tubes over the Kenko ones? There are a couple on TM I am seriously considering...

Didn't you just sell your Kenko ones?
Have you been hanging around Tony to much?

[FlyingPete]

Is it worth getting the Canon extension tubes over the Kenko ones? There are a couple on TM I am seriously considering... They are a tube with electrical connectors and no optics. The only difference I noticed when playing with them was build quality, it made no difference to the images, however I was a little more reluctant to hang my 70-200 off the Kenko ones than the Canon ones!

[FlyingPete]

Bring back bellows. I had some on my OM1, allowed me to go 5:1 :shock: you should try focusing at that distance!

In theory all that would be required is an EF body mount and lens mount both with electical contacts and stick the bellows in the middle, back in the manual day you needed to deal with getting a mechanical connection from one end to the other, now it is all electrical, should be easier!

[dgcorner]

Didn't you just sell your Kenko ones?
Have you been hanging around Tony to much?

Nope, not Kenko ones. They were full manual generic ones that were such a pain to use... hence not too much macro shots from me... and I love doing macros...:D

They are a tube with electrical connectors and no optics. The only difference I noticed when playing with them was build quality, it made no difference to the images, however I was a little more reluctant to hang my 70-200 off the Kenko ones than the Canon ones!

I have to agree on the build quality... I wouldn't want my 70-200 falling off...:rolleyes: :lol:

[weka2000]

Is it worth getting the Canon extension tubes over the Kenko ones? There are a couple on TM I am seriously considering...
Canon air is a lot more expensive :p

[weka2000]

Didn't you just sell your Kenko ones?
Have you been hanging around Tony to much?
People cant afford to hang around me :lol:

[dgcorner]

Canon air is a lot more expensive :p

Yep, amen to that:p

[dgcorner]

Just purchased the 2 tubes on TM for $300. I can't wait to get them and start posting some macro shots! ;-)

[weka2000]

Just purchased the 2 tubes on TM for $300. I can't wait to get them and start posting some macro shots! ;-)
Should have gone to AC 3 Marimui Auto focus for $250

[weka2000]

Here the 24-105 vignetting results

[FlyingPete]

Here the 24-105 vignetting results

That is unusable at f4/24mm! I wonder if it is a stealth EFS lens :confused:

[weka2000]

I will send this to glam and see what he thinks. I want FF and lens that dont vignette. I wonder if the 24-70 is much better. I should do the same test with my 17-40

[dgcorner]

Should have gone to AC 3 Marimui Auto focus for $250

$50 more to ensure that my lenses and tubes work on the new 40D or 4D (or whatever new camras) is good enough insurance... besides, the tubes were just 7 months old.

[dgcorner]

Here the 24-105 vignetting results

Pete, I smell a 24-105 being sold in the near future...:p

[theflyingkiwi]

Tony, you should see if you can borrow Ducans 24-70 and do the same results. You just have to remember tho that you are running full frame and it's going to be hard for you to find a lens that doesn't do any type of vignetting

[Moppie]

You just have to remember tho that you are running full frame and it's going to be hard for you to find a lens that doesn't do any type of vignetting


Yeah, but thats just really, really ugly!
Not what you would expect from a well regarded L series lens.

[theflyingkiwi]

while that is true, you would think that there are other people out their that would have come across this problem before hand. Either that it could be a bad copy.

[DiscoLizard]

Don't know if everyone has seen this before, but;
http://www.frogprints.co.nz/photobooks/

[FlyingPete]

Don't know if everyone has seen this before, but;
http://www.frogprints.co.nz/photobooks/


I have seen a couple of wedding albums from cheaper packages done like that.

[tim]

Wow, those books are cheap! I just ordered a 90 page book from momento.com.au that's costing $300! :(

[dgcorner]

So Tim, how'd the Halloween party at your place go?

[tim]

The party went well. Upon waking at the crack of noon I looked at some of the 400 photos that were taken last night, and found some of me wearing fishnet stockings (not mine) with my Lederhosen (which I rented for the party). Before you say that's not a halloween costume just try to picture me in Lederhosen and fishnets, that's pretty scary. And no i'm not going to post that photo anywhere on the net!

[dgcorner]

The party went well. Upon waking at the crack of noon I looked at some of the 400 photos that were taken last night, and found some of me wearing fishnet stockings (not mine) with my Lederhosen (which I rented for the party). Before you say that's not a halloween costume just try to picture me in Lederhosen and fishnets, that's pretty scary. And no i'm not going to post that photo anywhere on the net!

Aww, come on Tim it will give us something to laugh about!:lol: That must have been a hell of a party... if you were in fishnets and Lederhosen I can only imagine what the girls were in:p

EDIT: I see that you are no longer the Llama ;-) I'm glad I was spared the name changing. Goldmember just suits me fine:p

[scotttnz]

Here the 24-105 vignetting results

That is bad at 24 all the way up to f16! Ahhhhh.....full frame, who needs it?

Don't know if everyone has seen this before, but;
http://www.frogprints.co.nz/photobooks/

Yeah saw that yesterday. I'm thinking of doing a couple for Christmas presents. My best Landscapes mixed in with some family and kids shots.

[weka2000]

Im so anal about my lens, I want the best and I expect the best....Im suprised no one said "ah just use ARC"
Look at all the trouble I went through to get me happy with the bigma :lol:

[CliveyBoy]

Tony, you should see if you can borrow Ducans 24-70 and do the same results. You just have to remember tho that you are running full frame and it's going to be hard for you to find a lens that doesn't do any type of vignetting
Perhaps in another universe! It's simple physics. A pinhole does not have this problem, although there are plenty of other distortions. Any lens larger than that will have higher light energy at the centre than at the outside. That is why physicists have developed correction tables for every single Canon L lens. None of them are immune to the nature of light and lenses.

I just wish I could demonstrate how the correction tables would clean up every one of those shots which are not vignetted by the lens hood.

We are accustomed to looking at vignetted images and "seeing" them as evenly-lit. Indeed glamour shots eg make a virtue of the feature and exaggerate it. But why put up with it? Correct it as part of the raw to output conversion. It is so simple, I cannot understand why anyone would dismiss the possibility without testing it.

[tag141]

I think Trademe is getting a bit expensive for some items. I saw a lens on TM that was cheaper on that stores website. No shipping from the retail store but had an extra price for shipping if bought through TM making it even more expensive. Another trader is selling a 24-70L at $60 more than I bought it from a retailer.!

[Moppie]

It shows how you need to shop around, and don't forget most retialers will discount the shelf price, no trademe seller will do that.

[Moppie]

I asked this question on Glams nifty Auction:

" Ahh the mighty nifty fifty! Fantastic lens for crop bodies. But, why would I pay $170 for a used one, when I get a new one for the same money from an Auckland store? posted by: moppie (30 ) 8:49 am, Wed 1 Nov"

And, he's lowered the price to $155.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=76027381

Still a lot for a used nifty IMO, but at least its cheaper than a new one, and it comes with a UV filter.
I can get one landed here for B&H for NZ$150 :)

[Nzshrimper]

I asked this question on Glams nifty Auction:

" Ahh the mighty nifty fifty! Fantastic lens for crop bodies. But, why would I pay $170 for a used one, when I get a new one for the same money from an Auckland store? posted by: moppie (30 ) 8:49 am, Wed 1 Nov"

And, he's lowered the price to $155.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=76027381

Still a lot for a used nifty IMO, but at least its cheaper than a new one, and it comes with a UV filter.
I can get one landed here for B&H for NZ$150 :)
i also think the higher NZ$ is impacting prices everywhere.. we are now making very little mark up on all out electrical goods these days.. the shops are having to make a loss on some products. Its the extras that we make our money on.. service and support, software. We would be lucky to make say $100 per PC sale these days..
Maybe the trade me prices are what people think their units are worth due to the price they paid a year ago..

[weka2000]

I sold my Nifty for $130

[Nzshrimper]

I sold my Nifty for $130
some one got a good deal..

[weka2000]

some one got a good deal..
I always give good deals.

[NordieBoy]

The biggest negative is the licencing, my helpful MS guy here tells me that certain hardware changes such as a motherboard will require you to purchase a new licence, so there goes upgrades :evil:

ONE major upgrade allowed.

[forsaken]

got the camera back from canon today, all fixed. YAY :)

[Nzshrimper]

some help is required ...

My LCD screen (Viewsonic VE920m) 19 inch.. I need to calibrate it.. it appears to very bright.. and i can get it right.. are there any charts that i could display to aid me in setting the brightness and contrast.. Thanks in advance..

Edit Its is using standard VGA into a Radeon 9600 pro graphics card.

[tim]

Aww, come on Tim it will give us something to laugh about!:lol: That must have been a hell of a party... if you were in fishnets and Lederhosen I can only imagine what the girls were in:p

EDIT: I see that you are no longer the Llama ;-) I'm glad I was spared the name changing. Goldmember just suits me fine:p

The fishnets were one of the girls... most of them wore black and had makeup, quite standard. My costume was about the strangest :) Llama went bye bye a week or so ago, I wanted to be devils advocate again.

[Nzshrimper]

On a Vista vs XP.. XP pro will be supported by Microsoft fully for at least 7 more years.. Its taken this long to get this stable.. why change to another OS that need all this development.

[NordieBoy]

I tried to find something on the net, but couldn't. Ohh well I just decided to reimage the machine. that's the quickest way around the problem.

Filemon, regmon, processexplorer

Are the ones to search for.

[NordieBoy]

On a Vista vs XP.. XP pro will be supported by Microsoft fully for at least 7 more years.. Its taken this long to get this stable.. why change to another OS that need all this development.

Microsoft...
What Linux Distro do they do again?

[weka2000]

Trademe...$500 for 1 gig of Rambus :(
I could get a 50mm F1.4 for that :)

Oh FM has a few reviews of the 50mm1.2 and 70-200f4IS...Honest I wasnt looking at getting any more lens :p

[weka2000]

Oh for those of you who still remeber how to read paper books I went to techbooks today and got

George DeWolfes book "Digital photograpgy, Fine print workshop" read a few pages and learnt heaps. Covers a workflow from capture to print.

[FlyingPete]

Oh for those of you who still remeber how to read paper books I went to techbooks today and got

George DeWolfes book "Digital photograpgy, Fine print workshop" read a few pages and learnt heaps. Covers a workflow from capture to print.

When is/was your special studio shooting session?

[weka2000]

When is/was your special studio shooting session?

I canceled due to funds. I got hi key sorted out, its low key but I can read after all I have enough books. My biggest issue with "people" is I dont know how to direct.

Landscape dont need directing mother nature presents you with a scene and you have to work with what you are given. People you are the pupet master and you pull the stings...do this...do that. I guess I dont know what Im trying to acheive with people thus feel very lost.

[stempleton1991]

just me again still havent been able to post the pics yet.
and your right about the land scape shots you have to find the image, not edit them in photoshop

[weka2000]

just me again still havent been able to post the pics yet.
and your right about the land scape shots you have to find the image, not edit them in photoshop

Did you read the "how to post a picture" link i sent last night?
All my shots get some sort of PP

[weka2000]

Anyone heard from Wazza?

[stempleton1991]

not yet, went to a basketball game
will have a look at them right now

[FlyingPete]

Anyone heard from Wazza?

Who? ;)

I canceled due to funds. I got hi key sorted out, its low key but I can read after all I have enough books. My biggest issue with "people" is I dont know how to direct.

Landscape dont need directing mother nature presents you with a scene and you have to work with what you are given. People you are the pupet master and you pull the stings...do this...do that. I guess I dont know what Im trying to acheive with people thus feel very lost.

You need a "bossy but nice" person to help, I have one of those, quite handy!

You would like my studio session tonight, 30 loaves of bread, they do exactly as I say, you could say they have "risen" to the occasion ;)

[weka2000]

Who? ;)



You need a "bossy but nice" person to help, I have one of those, quite handy!

You would like my studio session tonight, 30 loaves of bread, they do exactly as I say, you could say they have "risen" to the occasion ;)

Oh well lets face it we cant have all the gifts can we :rolleyes:

[stempleton1991]

got blocked at school will go on at home in 3 hrs

[stempleton1991]

p.s:
I mean w.a time!!!

[weka2000]

got blocked at school will go on at home in 3 hrs

Ah I love my job as IT manager at a high school, blocking all the sites that kids love :lol:

"Access denied see the systems administrator" they never do:lol:

[FlyingPete]

Oh well lets face it we cant have all the gifts can we :rolleyes:

Wives or wives friends usually make good directors, IMHO you should be concerned with making the image, not bossing people around. Every pro studio I have been in has a dedicated person to direct whilst the photographer concentrates on the photography, some places have whole teams.

Enlist the wife, make sure she is there when your clients see the results and are happy with them, make sure she knows she played a crucial part, and I am sure her enthusiasm will go right up :D She may even start telling people you do portrait work. Shona is my biggest marketer, most of my work has come through her channels.

[theflyingkiwi]

you know kid that some of us might be in bed by that time

[FlyingPete]

p.s:
I mean w.a time!!!

And think aussie is an extra hour out, I was on the phone to Sydney a couple of weeks ago, they still hadn't flicked over for daylight savings. Don't know how far behind WA is but it is 20:41 here.

[weka2000]

Wives or wives friends usually make good directors, IMHO you should be concerned with making the image, not bossing people around. Every pro studio I have been in has a dedicated person to direct whilst the photographer concentrates on the photography, some places have whole teams.

Enlist the wife, make sure she is there when your clients see the results and are happy with them, make sure she knows she played a crucial part, and I am sure her enthusiasm will go right up :D She may even start telling people you do portrait work. Shona is my biggest marketer, most of my work has come through her channels.

My wife is the model. Im still working on that whole issue :rolleyes: At this stage all I get from her is "show me the money"
I have found some Auckland models who will do TFP but they are to young and need a desent feed.

[Nzshrimper]

nothing worse than skinny girls.

[weka2000]

Look I can see all of your ribs before you breath in :rolleyes:
Having said that there is the other side of the coin. At which point I will stop.

[NordieBoy]

I think I may have sold a picture...

[theflyingkiwi]

Congrats Fran, lets hope you have :)

I know the feeling. I sold my first picture just a few days ago. it's a great feeling, esp when they love it so much :) do you care to show us the pic?

[Nzshrimper]

i hope its not the nude moto cross session pics.. :rolleyes:

congrats here is hoping that it is the first of many...

[forsaken]

I've been asked to shoot a friends wedding next year, it scares me just thinking about it but I think it would be a good experience.


congrats Fran, selling pictures is good

[NordieBoy]

Ummm...
2*6x4, 2*8x12 of THIS (http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/road/Karting/KartSport%20Nelson%20-%2020060521%20-%20Club%20Champs/slides/20060521-124031.jpg).
2*6x4 of THIS (http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/road/Karting/KartSport%20Nelson%20-%2020060521%20-%20Club%20Champs/slides/20060521-125948.jpg).
2*6x4 of THIS (http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/road/Karting/KartSport%20Nelson%20-%2020060521%20-%20Club%20Champs/slides/20060521-140008.jpg).
2*6x4, 2*8x12 of THIS (http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/road/Karting/KartSport%20Nelson%20-%2020060521%20-%20Club%20Champs/slides/20060521-155504.jpg).
2*6x4 of THIS (http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/road/Karting/KartSport%20Nelson%20-%2020060820/slides/20060820-124354.jpg).
2*6x4, 1*8x12 of THIS (http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/road/Karting/KartSport%20Nelson%20-%2020060820/slides/20060820-142033.jpg).

They asked me how many other people have been buying the Karting shots and couldn't believe it when I said "none".
They reckon the only reason is that none of the parents/drivers know about them.
They're going to put them up on display in the clubrooms before they get sent off to OZ to the Grandparents.

I'm not too happy with the quality of the May ones but they were with the 300D + Sigma 70-300 and was only the 2nd time I'd been out there.
It's nice to see how much I've improved since then, not so much in composition but definatly in quality.

I'm only making about $20 but I think there will be more requests from this little start.
Anyway it'll pay for my photostorage site for almost 2 months :D

Hmmm.
Almost tempted to get a 6x4 printed of every photo, take them to the next meeting and put a $2 per pic honesty box next to them :D

[TKRFAN]

Hi All

Nice work Fran :)

Wonder if I should venture out to the local kart track here - not with a view to sell, but I guess it is a good place to keep working on technique?

[tim]

I've been asked to shoot a friends weeding next year, it scares me just thinking about it but I think it would be a good experience.

Persuade them to hire Wazza and go along as his assistant... not saying anything about your photography, but he's good. If he's still in the country that is.

[Moppie]

Some shots from the weekend are finally up!

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2199557#post2199557

And theres one in the GKPE challenge thread. :)


Congrats on a sale Fran, now you just have to start a little marketing, and get your name out there. And don't settle for just $2 a photo either!

[Nzshrimper]

quite in here tonight,,, and nobody got any help for me re the LCD.. :(

[FlyingPete]

quite in here tonight,,, and nobody got any help for me re the LCD.. :(

I am up! Friggin 24x7 airline :rolleyes: At this time there are no interntaional aircraft bordings so it is safe for me to break stuff, I have two hours...

[Moppie]

Heres some more over priced stuff on trademe: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Camera-accessories/Lenses/Canon/auction-75917722.htm

Total price from AC, thats their shelf price, is only $3971

[Moppie]

Sweet!

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Camera-accessories/Other/auction-75787886.htm

I wonder if we can get one with GKPE printed on it?

[Moppie]

Ok, so Im really bored.

Anyone want to get really, really close to the neighbors?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Camera-accessories/Lenses/Canon/auction-75404551.htm

[theflyingkiwi]

don't show tony that, he might buy it just to see what it's like.

[FlyingPete]

Enough of the Trademe stuff! I can't view it from here :(

[weka2000]

don't show tony that, he might buy it just to see what it's like.

What, now I better have a look just need to add tradme to the white list and remove from schools black list :lol:
Ah is that all. A Toy lens.

[weka2000]

This is what a real lens looks like
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Camera-accessories/Lenses/Canon/auction-76165963.htm

[theflyingkiwi]

This is what a real lens looks like
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Camera-accessories/Lenses/Canon/auction-76165963.htm

now that's a lens I wouldn't mind having a play with, or even using :) shame about the price. OK I tell ya what. if I win lotto I would buy that lens and then you all can look at in wonder.

but it would be a case of look don't touch :) :lol: :lol:

[theflyingkiwi]

have you guys seen this
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=232257

[weka2000]

Yes I saw it. The issue would be people getting their nose out of joint because their photo didnt make it.

[theflyingkiwi]

Yes I saw it. The issue would be people getting their nose out of joint because their photo didnt make it.

that's ture. but I think I read that they are planning on putting down photos for voting. that way the general public on the forum decide who gets in.

I have voiced my concern about the possible lack of photos from other country's. It could very quickly become just a US/UK thing

[weka2000]

Thet think they run the world now :lol:

[CliveyBoy]

don't show tony that, he might buy it just to see what it's like.
No need to - I have one:oops: It's available for play - we'll be in Ak on Sunday.

Last used for birds at the Mangere waste water treatment area. Massive DOF problem for birds, but quite acceptable for across-the-bay scenic shots.

[Moppie]

How is it optically? And how did you find shooting at F8-16 all the time?

[weka2000]

Tony is ok for glass for 2006. 2007 well lets see what Canon brings in Vagus in March :lol:

Ive got lightbulbs going off with this new book. This guy studied with Ansel Adams. The book is well written and he assumes you know very little about PP
its not a photoshop book but a workflow one. He explains why certian things are done in the order they are done in.

So from my point I have the equipment. I have the basics of photography and PP now it time to refine the craft.

The zone system is very intresting and I think once you get the hang of it it becomes second nature.

[CliveyBoy]

How is it optically? And how did you find shooting at F8-16 all the time?
What can you expect for US$200! Asking NZ$400 is a bit much.

The aperture changes continuously as you zoom out. I used Av mode, but the Ap value cannot be set once the lens is attached. So the shutter controls the exposure.

At 1300mm, just finding the target is an achievement. And it probably needs two beanbags to hold it steady. At 650mm, it can be supported on a good tripod, but once extended, the camera also needs support and alignment.

My impression was that the lens has poor colour transmission.

[Moppie]

At 1300mm, just finding the target is an achievement. And it probably needs two beanbags to hold it steady. At 650mm, it can be supported on a good tripod, but once extended, the camera also needs support and alignment.



So it actualy extends, rather being an internal zoom. I should have guessed as much for the price :)

I would hate to think how hard it to keep steady, maybe a mono-pod under the lens, and a tripod under the camera :lol: :lol:

Could be fun to have a play with on a day like today though, when theres lots of light.
But otherwise it must have very limited uses.

[Moppie]

Hmmmm, had a quick google, this is yet another case of over inflated second hand prices. You can land a new one here for NZ$400 if you shop around.

[FlyingPete]

So it actualy extends, rather being an internal zoom. I should have guessed as much for the price :)

I would hate to think how hard it to keep steady, maybe a mono-pod under the lens, and a tripod under the camera :lol: :lol:

Could be fun to have a play with on a day like today though, when theres lots of light.
But otherwise it must have very limited uses.

Hand holding a Bigma at f/6.3 @ 500mm (as wide open as it will go at 500mm) is marginal at ISO100 on a bright sunny day. Rule of 1/focallength (*1.6 for APS-C) states you need to be shooting at around 1/2000 of a second at 1300mm to handhold, that at f/16 is going to need some sacrifice in ISO.

(runs away and finds online calculator)

At 1300mm f/16 1/2000s you need to be at ISO1600 on a bright sunny day :shock:

[rabsoft]

Enough of the Trademe stuff! I can't view it from here :(

Pete see if you can access it via IP 202.21.128.2 I have found that heaps of proxies only do word searches so ip most of the time works

[Nzshrimper]

1000 posts.
bloody hell.. i need to get out more..

[weka2000]

Hand holding a Bigma at f/6.3 @ 500mm (as wide open as it will go at 500mm) is marginal at ISO100 on a bright sunny day. Rule of 1/focallength (*1.6 for APS-C) states you need to be shooting at around 1/2000 of a second at 1300mm to handhold, that at f/16 is going to need some sacrifice in ISO.

(runs away and finds online calculator)

At 1300mm f/16 1/2000s you need to be at ISO1600 on a bright sunny day :shock:

You 1.6 lads will also need ninja noise plugin ;)

[FlyingPete]

Pete see if you can access it via IP 202.21.128.2 I have found that heaps of proxies only do word searches so ip most of the time works

Tried that, they have it nailed :(

1000 posts.
bloody hell.. i need to get out more..

No actually 1001, so you are a peanut.

[weka2000]

Hey Pete they pay you to work not spend your pay :lol:

[Nzshrimper]

Tried that, they have it nailed :(



No actually 1001, so you are a peanut.

a peanut.. hmm.. dry roasted or just salted..

[theflyingkiwi]

congrats on the 1k mark Chris. I would be interested in seeing where most of your post go :)