GKPE: General Ramblings thread

[Wazza]

I wouldn't be able to get away with saying that!

Who is the second girl?
I know the top one is Amy.

http://www.d1nz.com/drift%20queen/index.html

[forsaken]

I wouldn't be able to get away with saying that!

Who is the second girl?
I know the top one is Amy.

http://www.d1nz.com/drift%20queen/index.html


me either :) nakita doesn't visit here often but the amount she enjoyed the afterparty shoot and how much she is borrowing my camera she may appear round these parts soon

oh yeah the 2nd is Louise

[theflyingkiwi]

BTW forsaken, the top photo is the best. she looks more relaxed. the other looks like she is sitting on something.

[forsaken]

BTW forsaken, the top photo is the best. she looks more relaxed. the other looks like she is sitting on something.


Amy was by far the easiest to shoot and the most relaxed of the 2, she has a wicked sence of humour to.

[Wazza]

Yeah I just mentioned on MSN, the first is best, nice composition, good use of lighting, and good DOF...

At least they're both naturals when it comes to posing. :)

In other news...
Just got my tickets of:

Auckland to Wellington, Wellington to Blenheim on 2nd March 2007

And then Blenheim to Wellington, and Wellington to Auckland 4th March 2007.

Photographing a wedding on Saturday 3rd March, and will be doing getting ready shots in the morning, and then driving 45min North to the edge of the Marlborough Sounds I beleive, and boarding a boat...

The wedding is being covered by one of my former clients
www.warrenwilliams.co.nz/weddings/glasswell/

As a wedding gift for their good friends, who don't know I'm coming.

Pretty awesome if you ask me!

[theflyingkiwi]

that shows in the photos. Some just know how to work the camera, and same hate it to death.

[forsaken]

Yeah I just mentioned on MSN, the first is best, nice composition, good use of lighting, and good DOF...

At least they're both naturals when it comes to posing. :)

In other news...
Just got my tickets of:

Auckland to Wellington, Wellington to Blenheim on 2nd March 2007

And then Blenheim to Wellington, and Wellington to Auckland 4th March 2007.

Photographing a wedding on Saturday 3rd March, and will be doing getting ready shots in the morning, and then driving 45min North to the edge of the Marlborough Sounds I beleive, and boarding a boat...

The wedding is being covered by one of my former clients
www.warrenwilliams.co.nz/weddings/glasswell/ (http://www.warrenwilliams.co.nz/weddings/glasswell/)

As a wedding gift for their good friends, who don't know I'm coming.

Pretty awesome if you ask me!


Sounds like a busy weekend Wazza. Have fun and can't wait to see the results. Still need to book in for a leson on shooting weddings with you to

[weka2000]

people photography is hard. Full respect to those out there that shoot people. Heres my effort from this afternoon.


Respect recieved :lol: . To me the hardest thing is weddings those people get my respect. Simon feel free to give them my details ;)

I have 1 of the great big round reflectors but it has been so dam windy.

[tim]

Holy crap, they're gorgeous! Good photos there.

When people look good it's much easier. Get them to stand there, take a head shot, make sure the lighting's not flat, it'll be a good shot. Then have a laugh. I don't pose people at weddings, I get them to do what they want to do and take photos while they do it, with a small amount of direction only. With girls like that you want to show off their curves and how slim they are, you did a good job at that.

[tim]

Guys, thoughts on the new buttons top right of my propsed new home page? I've added a "proofs" button, and i'll add an "about" or "biography" section some time.

http://mrwild.co.nz/unprotected/potn/temp/wp-prop3a.jpg

Edit - oops missed a button off.

[TKRFAN]

a bit like this... :p

That's the one, nice reflection :D I am going out to Manfeild on Dec 10 for a few hours to take photos of the car sprints there - I am hoping for fine (or cloudy and non rainy) weather.

[akiwi]

Anyway so what does your avatar mean?

Er Nothing. I did a whole series of my family a year or so ago.
My wife is an egg (She doesn't like that), one son is an avocado, The youngest is an onion, and I'm an orange. When I needed an avitar, I thought it looked pretty cool. Recently I did some Kiwifruit photos for a new avitar, Just haven't got a Roundtuit.

Nice web page Tim. It's looking more & more professional.

[akiwi]

That's the one, nice reflection :D I am going out to Manfeild on Dec 10 for a few hours to take photos of the car sprints there - I am hoping for fine (or cloudy and non rainy) weather.
Manfield. I used to love going there as a kid. I also come from Balmey Palmey.

[Nzshrimper]

LOL - just seen a preview of sportsline on 3 .. they have a feature on the V8's when Fogg spins i am the photog inside the hairpin getting very wet.. :D

[weka2000]

LOL - just seen a preview of sportsline on 3 .. they have a feature on the V8's when Fogg spins i am the photog inside the hairpin getting very wet.. :D

Hope you didnt get your equipment wet :rolleyes:

[Nzshrimper]

Hope you didnt get your equipment wet :rolleyes:
yep a little - had a towel on it. no water got in and its nicely dried out now. (thats what airing cupboards are for.) I also have a large pile of the silicon bags (i stole from inside hard drive boxes) that sit in my bags - that keeps it all dry.. ;)

[akiwi]

I have some larg clear freezer bags and rubber bands in my camera bag. I put the camera inside, and use a rubber band to hold it closed around the lens. I can look through the eye piece. It's not as clear as without looking through the plastic, but enough for framing....and the camera stays dry. I could cut a hole for the eye piece I guess, but I lost it.

[Nzshrimper]

I have some larg clear freezer bags and rubber bands in my camera bag. I put the camera inside, and use a rubber band to hold it closed around the lens. I can look through the eye piece. It's not as clear as without looking through the plastic, but enough for framing....and the camera stays dry. I could cut a hole for the eye piece I guess, but I lost it.
these things can take a little splash from the rain... just dont leave them out all night in the it.. :p

[Nzshrimper]

Guys, thoughts on the new buttons top right of my propsed new home page? I've added a "proofs" button, and i'll add an "about" or "biography" section some time.

http://mrwild.co.nz/unprotected/potn/temp/wp-prop3a.jpg

Edit - oops missed a button off.

tim looks good - could i suggest that you reorder the buttons..

about - gallery - packages - contact - proofs

its a very little change but it helps with flow. we read left to right and the buttons would be in the order (IMO) that you would like people to navigate your site. its a subtle change - the rest of the front page looks very good and the choice of buttons fit in well.

[weka2000]

I want a flash home page like Tims :cry:

[NordieBoy]

tim looks good - could i suggest that you reorder the buttons..

about - gallery - packages - contact - proofs

its a very little change but it helps with flow. we read left to right and the buttons would be in the order (IMO) that you would like people to navigate your site. its a subtle change - the rest of the front page looks very good and the choice of buttons fit in well.

Look at any help menu.
The about button is always last.

[weka2000]

Look at any help menu.
The about button is always last.

gallery is always close to first

[DiscoLizard]

yeah just means I missed out on an hours overtime pay. But I would much rather spend the time looking at 2 beautiful ladies than stare at a piece of steel in a mill.

Amen! So where are the rest of the photos? :D

Photographing a wedding on Saturday 3rd March, and will be doing getting ready shots in the morning, and then driving 45min North to the edge of the Marlborough Sounds I beleive, and boarding a boat...

Where exactly are you going Wazza? (Which Sound - Queen Charlotte, Pelorus?)

tim looks good - could i suggest that you reorder the buttons..

Order makes sense to me;

1. Gallery - what most people will look at first.
2. Packages - to see if they can afford what they've been looking at.
3/4. Proofs - maybe this could come after contact, as most people won't be looking at this.
3/4. Contact - get hold of you after working out they can afford you.
5. About - most people probably won't look at this unless they've already looked at everything else on the site.

I'm not personally that fond of the big reflective buttons, they don't seem to match the font at the bottom either?

[Wazza]

No idea the exact details, but just know the couple live in Blenheim, and boarding a boat, which is 40min drive away, looking at the map, to me looked like it would be on the coast towards Picton, however was told it's not that far up.

The wedding I shoot in a couple of days, I think I will just use my own flash, although it's not working properly, with no red light emitting for focussing assist, however the wedding is outside at the domain or something.. But I've been asked to cover some stuff in the evening, just hope it's not so dark, so the camera can still focus ok.

Perhaps I may borrow one, but only use it if I absolutely have to.

And may buy a cable, as I would need a 2nd one anyway, and get my one repaired soon.

Ah the expense. Paid $252 for travel insurance, to cover $10K worth of stuff for Kirst and myself going to Fiji on 29th December..

[Wazza]

Tim: with the buttons, yeah they've got a large shadow, changing the weight of the top bar...

Also although they're centred, it's giving the illusion that they don't like up with the text on the left, because that is so fine / and in lower case...

Anyway, you're getting work, so what's to worry. :p

[MattL]

nzshrimpers order makes more sense than anyone elses.

about - gallery - packages - contact - proofs

About is last in help menus so its at the bottom - ie its the first thing you see. Besides, its not exactly wise to base anything around some ms product..

[DiscoLizard]

nzshrimpers order makes more sense than anyone elses.

about - gallery - packages - contact - proofs

About is last in help menus so its at the bottom - ie its the first thing you see. Besides, its not exactly wise to base anything around some ms product..

When you go to a photographers website, you go to see photos... Therefore, gallery goes first. At least, that's what seems logical to me.

Think of it this way, in order to get business from your website, you NEED; A gallery to show what you do, packages to show your price, and contact info to let them buy your product.

The other two are still important, but less so than the first three (you can get your proofs to the customer another way if needed, and you don't have to talk about yourself on the website, altho it is probably interesting for prospective clients.)

It's got nothing to do with MS products, or Help, or anything else IMO, just selling to a potential customer.

[tim]

Thanks for the helpful feedback everyone, it's appreciated :)

tim looks good - could i suggest that you reorder the buttons..

about - gallery - packages - contact - proofs

its a very little change but it helps with flow. we read left to right and the buttons would be in the order (IMO) that you would like people to navigate your site. its a subtle change - the rest of the front page looks very good and the choice of buttons fit in well.

Thanks guys, you all make good points about button order. I ordered the buttons in the order people are likely to use them - gallery to see my work, packages to see the price, and the rest are in no order because I was drunk when I did it :p I think i'll use gallery, packages, contact, proofs, then about.

I want a flash home page like Tims :cry:

It was pretty easy to make :)

Look at any help menu.
The about button is always last.

That's where i'd put it...

gallery is always close to first

For good reason! It's the main point of the website.

I'm not personally that fond of the big reflective buttons, they don't seem to match the font at the bottom either?

I should match the fonts, yeah, I used the default in the button psd file I downloaded. I found the link to the button page from digg, something about web 2.0 style buttons.

Tim: with the buttons, yeah they've got a large shadow, changing the weight of the top bar...

Also although they're centred, it's giving the illusion that they don't like up with the text on the left, because that is so fine / and in lower case...

I'm still not sure these buttons fit in properly, but they're good enough for now, I think.

Anyway, you're getting work, so what's to worry. :p

Good point, vertical alignment, I didn't even think of that!

[MattL]

When you go to a photographers website, you go to see photos... Therefore, gallery goes first. At least, that's what seems logical to me.

Think of it this way, in order to get business from your website, you NEED; A gallery to show what you do, packages to show your price, and contact info to let them buy your product.

The other two are still important, but less so than the first three (you can get your proofs to the customer another way if needed, and you don't have to talk about yourself on the website, altho it is probably interesting for prospective clients.)

It's got nothing to do with MS products, or Help, or anything else IMO, just selling to a potential customer.


nope.

Joe Bloggs arrives at website.. He sees that it says xyz photography, but thats all he knows. Hes looking for a photographer to take his companys corporate headshots. He's not going to look for that information in the gallery, is he? He needs to know more about the photographer before he starts evaluating his work.

About goes first.

Once he knows that xyz Photography does do corporate headshots, and is based in wellington but can travel to lower hutt (all found in the about page) he can move on to the gallery, see what his work is like.

Gallery goes second.

He likes what he sees in the gallery. xyz has some really good shots in there, and Mr Bloggs would like some just like that for his company.
But, he needs to know more. How much will they cost? Those photos in the gallery looked so good they probably cost a few million dollars each. He can now move on to the packages page.

Packages goes third..

Now he can see that they infact do not cost a few million dollars each, only a mere fraction of that. Great. Mr Bloggs is now decided to use xyz photography for his companys headshots. On to the contact page to let xyz know the good news.

Contact goes fourth..

After the day of the shoot, Mr Bloggs logs on to xyz photographys website to check out the online proofs before they are sent to print. He doesnt need to go through the about > gallery > packages > contact order because he knows where hes going by now.. and can go straight to the end for the proofs.

about - gallery - packages - contact - proofs


It has nothing to do with MS and help menus correct. IT has to do with a simple straightforward, and logical layout of your website. People do not want the first thing they see on your website to be a directory listing of your gallery.

M

[MattL]

Thanks for the helpful feedback everyone, it's appreciated :)
For good reason! It's the main point of the website.


The gallery is not the main point of your website.. or at least it shouldn't be.

People are going to want to see what you do, for how much you do it, and how to contact you.

People do not want to see a gallery listing of a bunch of images that mean nothing to them. Show your best work on your website sure, in good moderation.

The gallery should be there so that once somebody can see you can do good work they can check down into more specific elements (ie studio work) to see what your like there.


Your website shouldn't look like an online store for your photos, which it will do if the gallery is your main focus.

[DiscoLizard]

nope.

Joe Bloggs arrives at website.. He sees that it says tim wild photography, but thats all he knows. Hes looking for a photographer to take his companys corporate headshots. He's not going to look for that information in the gallery, is he? He needs to know more about the photographer before he starts evaluating his work.

About goes first.


How does Joe Bloggs arrive at the website in the first place?

He searches for Photos, Corporate Headshots, Wellington, New Zealand

Either that, or he's been given a referral by someone.

Either way, Joe already knows a few choice details about what kind of photography he's going to be offered.



TBH, I really think that there should be an about section on the index page - a short description of who you are and what you do. (No more than 3 sentences.)

Instead of an "About" section, you could then have a bio section.



The gallery is not the main point of your website.. or at least it shouldn't be.

Your website shouldn't look like an online store for your photos, which it will do if the gallery is your main focus.

Maybe a better word to use would be "Portfolio" instead of gallery?

The portfolio should be the main point of your website because it is your key driver of business. If your portfolio is no good, you get no business. If people can't see your photos, they won't hire you.

I agree that the portfolio should be relatively small, not a directory listing of every shoot you've ever been on. But I think Tim already knows that :D

[tim]

Interesting Matt, i'll have to think about the button order, though i'm not sure it's critical. Not sure a bio on the first page would work, think i'll leave it on the 2nd page.

[weka2000]

Well the fasion shows still on rain hail or sunshine.
So I have to be in there by 6pm tonight. Great traffic and parking in the CBD

[akiwi]

Ok, I just did something really important. I changed my avitar. Something I've been meaning to do for ages. Better?? or was the other one better?

[DiscoLizard]

Well the fasion shows still on rain hail or sunshine.
So I have to be in there by 6pm tonight. Great traffic and parking in the CBD

Whereabouts in the CBD? Might be able to get you a park...

[weka2000]

Whereabouts in the CBD? Might be able to get you a park...

Chanderly lane/street its up by the varisity something like that, just down from shortland street

[weka2000]

Ok, I just did something really important. I changed my avitar. Something I've been meaning to do for ages. Better?? or was the other one better?

Half pumpkin half kiwifruit :confused:

[tim]

Ok, I just did something really important. I changed my avitar. Something I've been meaning to do for ages. Better?? or was the other one better?

Better, looks like a kiwifruit instead of a pumpkin now! :)

[theflyingkiwi]

so is everyone working at the moment?

[tim]

Or pretending to...

[TKRFAN]

definitely pretending ;)

[joeseph]

so is everyone working at the moment?
I was working when you posted, but now I'm not. Roll on 5pm...

[tag141]

so is everyone working at the moment?

on strike...

[theflyingkiwi]

well I was working or at least telling my boss that I was :) anyway it's after 5 now and all those that live in akl are trying to get home in the wet :) me I am already home

[tim]

We had the gale force winds this morning, looks like it's you guys turn now. Don't wear a tight hat you might end up on Rangatoto :p

[DiscoLizard]

still working... no point going now anyway, will take me an hour or more to get home in this traffic.

[Wazza]

That's one good thing of working till 8pm on a Thursday night.. Then it's my 2 days off.. Back on Sunday, 11:30am ;)

[naqs]

well I was working or at least telling my boss that I was :) anyway it's after 5 now and all those that live in akl are trying to get home in the wet :) me I am already home

I was clever, Left early at 4:00 so wasn't too bad for me.

[theflyingkiwi]

I must admit one of the things that I like about living in Hammy, I could bike to work or take the car, either way I am home with in 15mins.

[naqs]

I must admit one of the things that I like about living in Hammy, I could bike to work or take the car, either way I am home with in 15mins.

yea but... whats in hamilton, Its like a truck stop for all the farmers around. My brother was recently living in hamilton and he rekons it was a nowhere place. (well actually the V8 supercars will be there as well as the WRC next year hmm...)

[Nzshrimper]

yea but... whats in hamilton, Its like a truck stop for all the farmers around. My brother was recently living in hamilton and he rekons it was a nowhere place.
now thats harsh... :rolleyes:

i think Palmy is worse than Hamilton.. i would say Timaru and Hamilton are very similar.

[TKRFAN]

OI - lay off the 'student city' :P I would definitely NOT rate Hamilton above PN having spent time there - and yeah, I wouldn't pick either of them as a tourist destination (apart from the racetracks and speedway of course)....

[theflyingkiwi]

I will admit that Hammy really doesn't have anything to attract tourists here. but I am a sure you that not the only reason to chose a place to live.

Chris did you change a picture in your post about minis racing?

[TKRFAN]

I will admit that Hammy really doesn't have anything to attract tourists here. but I am a sure you that not the only reason to chose a place to live.

Hehe - yep I absolutely agree with you there, or I wouldn't have stayed in PN. Despite a love of fast cars, the 'fast life' doesn't necessarily appeal, and of course, the lack of traffic now they have fixed or are fixing most of the problems (used to take an hour or more to get home, now only 15 mins).

I can still find enough to do to more than occupy the time I want occupied :p

[theflyingkiwi]

well like PN you can always travel somewhere. for those in akl wanting to go somewhere they first have to get out. it takes all of a few min to get out of ham. under a hour to go to either cost. hell if I ever need to I could go to akl :eek:

Tony are you around. I got my Dell screen today , YAY and even MORE YAY. man is this thing clear. I would like to calibrate the thing. One of the reason in getting it is for photoshop work.

[Nzshrimper]

I will admit that Hammy really doesn't have anything to attract tourists here. but I am a sure you that not the only reason to chose a place to live.

Chris did you change a picture in your post about minis racing?
yes i was trying to be funny to get a reaction out of you.. (i was bored) :rolleyes: Instead some Pohm got upset.. lol - changed the photoshopped pic to another one now.. :)

[theflyingkiwi]

funny you say that. I read his post not knowing your photo had changed. I read thinking what a dumb idiot and then when back to the main thread. A few minutes later I read what you say and get totally confused.

[Nzshrimper]

funny you say that. I read his post not knowing your photo had changed. I read thinking what a dumb idiot and then when back to the main thread. A few minutes later I read what you say and get totally confused.
lol .... i might delete my reply.. just leave him looking dumb.. ;)

[weka2000]

It was such a hard night, all this work :lol: There was a Nikion pro guy so got hime to take photo. He never used a canon before.

[Nzshrimper]

you lucky bastard... :rolleyes: ;) one of the perks of the job hey tony... looks better than wading through mud...

How was your shooting.. ?

[weka2000]

you lucky bastard... :rolleyes: ;) one of the perks of the job hey tony... looks better than wading through mud...

How was your shooting.. ?

Will let you know tommorow after the client tells me.
Interesting event. A whole different world from mangere and the mud

[theflyingkiwi]

I see you still don't know how to relax in front of the camera :)

[weka2000]

I see you still don't know how to relax in front of the camera :)

Just like most photographers. Thats why we are not models, mind some are posers :p

[akiwi]

Aaah Mr Weka... so that's what you look like.
Boy those two look like manequins!!!
Was probably an interesting night.

Wit regards to Palmerston North. I always said, it was ideally situated to get out of.
20 mins to Foxton beach, 2 hrs from Wellington, 2 from Ruapehu, and 2 1/2 from Lake Taupo. We had a holiday batch there (Still do, I just can't use it very much).
Palmy was also a good size as a kid, as I could bike everywhere in the city & didn't need to use public transport or my parents to get e around.

By the way. My icon before was of an Orange... not a pumpkin

[theflyingkiwi]

Just like most photographers. Thats why we are not models, mind some are posers :p

normally I find those to be Nikon users tho. This year when I was at the V8's a nikon users decided to stand by us for a while, every time a car would go past he would shoot some photos then look at us. which was Warren, iKirst and myself. not to sure what he was on. he did look like he had a snobbish attitude about him.

[weka2000]

Girls theres a guy with a camera :lol:

[weka2000]

normally I find those to be Nikon users tho. This year when I was at the V8's a nikon users decided to stand by us for a while, every time a car would go past he would shoot some photos then look at us. which was Warren, iKirst and myself. not to sure what he was on. he did look like he had a snobbish attitude about him.

This guy was nice enough. Tell you what he did have a desent off flash camera shoe setup, was about 4-6 ft long. Duncan when you going to make us one for our canons.

[joeseph]

This guy was nice enough. Tell you what he did have a desent off flash camera shoe setup, was about 4-6 ft long. Duncan when you going to make us one for our canons.
Been thinking about that one for awhile - I'm looking for an in-line RJ-45 socket to use so one can just pluck whatever length cat-6 patchlead off the shelf one needs for the job...
Something like PCMCIA network cards use on their dongles, but would have to be robust.

[theflyingkiwi]

Been thinking about that one for awhile - I'm looking for an in-line RJ-45 socket to use so one can just pluck whatever length cat-6 patchlead off the shelf one needs for the job...
Something like PCMCIA network cards use on their dongles, but would have to be robust.

that would be a cool idea. I have got a couple of 50m network cables at work. :)

[FlyingPete]

Been thinking about that one for awhile - I'm looking for an in-line RJ-45 socket to use so one can just pluck whatever length cat-6 patchlead off the shelf one needs for the job...
Something like PCMCIA network cards use on their dongles, but would have to be robust.

Hmmm, I thought about doing that, the main issue I had is the ground shield is hard to put on a RJ45 plug :rolleyes:

[Moppie]

You could always go Canon cable to PS2, then have a short PS2 to RJ45 cable.
Female RJ45's should be avliable from JayCar.

[weka2000]

Dam I need to start charging. I have models now refering me to others and I do not have enought time in the day and days in the week to fit them all in.
Im starting to get double booked.

You need time to process the photos as well.

Sandra "Show me the money honey" yes dear Im working on it :lol:

[Moppie]

Well then start charging!!!!
This is what you've been waiting for after all. If you don't start charging they will just start taking you for a ride.

Any that don't want to pay, you can pass onto me :)

[weka2000]

Well then start charging!!!!
This is what you've been waiting for after all. If you don't start charging they will just start taking you for a ride.

Any that don't want to pay, you can pass onto me :)

Ok I will pass on those I dont want to the group :lol:

I need to work out prices etc. I dont want to be to expensive, but I need to cover costs and set aside money for equipment.

[Moppie]

You need to make a profit, that represents what you think your time is worth :

[weka2000]

You need to make a profit, that represents what you think your time is worth :

I thought it was the quality of photos.

[DiscoLizard]

Ok I will pass on those I dont want to the group :lol:

I need to work out prices etc. I dont want to be to expensive, but I need to cover costs and set aside money for equipment.


I wouldn't be charging yet...

You've shot 2 or 3, and they're starting to pass your name around. I'd wait until I had 5+ who I felt I'd done a really good job with. There are always models who want to get their photos taken, but once you start charging, you move into a whole different field - the business side of things has to be set up first, GST etc. Not to mention if, for some reason, a model isn't happy with her shots after paying for it, your name will go around just as fast as it has at the moment, but in a much less favourable light.

If you have the confidence and the ability to get to paid sessions (and I know you do), then why rush? Better to do things right, and do them once than to learn from mistakes that you can't fix.

Just playing devils advocate. Feel free to ignore :D

[tim]

Weka, based on the portfolio on your pbase site and a couple I remember seeing on here i'd 2nd DiscoLizard's suggestion - you need more experience and a better portfolio before you can start charging. There's no hurry, you need to get a good number of "wow" shots behind you first.

Then again look what I did, I just started out cheap and got a little better, but I put in about on average 4 hours per day for 18 months, I guess, to improving.

[dgcorner]

What Tim & Dave said... just don't forget to post the pics so we can critique :p

[weka2000]

I agree guys. When I feel my work is good enough. I will review in Feb 1st
Practise practise. I have studio shoots this weekend. Lingerie :lol:

At least Im getting a good number of models.

[DiscoLizard]

I have studio shoots this weekend. Lingerie :D

Life is tough. I'll be sure to think of you while I'm sitting in the office :mad:

[weka2000]

Life is tough. I'll be sure to think of you while I'm sitting in the office :mad:

Have 2 girls comming over. Had an idea of 2 girls saterday night playing strip poker as a theme :lol:
Anyone with any ideas please foward to me and I will see what I can do. I want them to be portrayed as woman not models.

[Wazza]

Better watch what you say. ;)

People looking you up, will use google, find the forums, and if they find the tongue-in-cheek comments, may not like the idea of you being their photographer :p

I've tried to change my tone on the forum, to a wee bit more professional.. Well most of the time, I do let slip now and again

[joeseph]

Hmmmm - ya think they likely to read all 796 pages of it? :lol:

for more amusement, I've had Ihug broadband disconected today :cry:
Shall we run a sweep to see who is closest to guessing when Xtra "unleashed" will be connected?
I'm picking I'll be offline as-it-were for at least a week.

[akiwi]

Sandra "Show me the money honey" yes dear Im working on it :lol:

I know that one. Had a discussion with my wife this morning. Probably has something to do with the $3000 laptop I bought last week.

I earn relatively good $ through stock photography, so have about $2000 ready to transfer when then November payments come in.

I practised for a long time before charging anyone. Still practice. I need to work out a pricing strategy too. My shooting this week was Waaaay too cheap. My colleague said she only wanted a couple of pictures for a christmass preasent. But on the evening we ended up shooting about 300 photos in all sorts of different clothes etc. Admitedly I did some experimentation with the light, but at the end of it all I will probably have invested 6 hours for about $60. Not to mention the equipement used.
What do other people use for pricing schemes?

@Joseph. I just changed my telephone system from Telecom to another company which comes with broadband etc etc. The switch took 6 hours. Admitedly the two telephone companies work a little closer together. Good luck anyway.

Peter

[weka2000]

Well the results are in from Thursday. Client very happy. However there was a BIG HOOK that I didnt see. She is a photographer in her own rite. Medium format and SLR and she is very, very good. Glad I said I was only a beginner.

Im glad Im a straight up honest person who dont try to bull s**t his way with people I would have been really stung otherwise on this woman.

[lil_miss]

Theres nothign wrong with perhaps only charging for your time - say $50 an hour... at least that way you're getting something. the big $$ can always come later

[akiwi]

It pays to be honest sometimes. Glad things worked out ok.

[theflyingkiwi]

Well the results are in from Thursday. Client very happy. However there was a BIG HOOK that I didnt see. She is a photographer in her own rite. Medium format and SLR and she is very, very good. Glad I said I was only a beginner.

Im glad Im a straight up honest person who dont try to bull s**t his way with people I would have been really stung otherwise on this woman.

did she give you some useful tips for the next time?

[weka2000]

did she give you some useful tips for the next time?

No seemed more than happy. We will do coffee in a couple of weeks.

[Nzshrimper]

tumble weed...

[MattL]

Hey! I've been taking photos! (for once) will post up shortly.

[joeseph]

It's a lovely day



lets




do




some





Gardening. :rolleyes:

[theflyingkiwi]

oh the greatest thing I done today, buy some xmas presents. nothing camera related :(

[weka2000]

Lateness is nothing more than a sign of bad manners and been disorganised :evil:
Where are my 2 models :confused:

[theflyingkiwi]

perhaps they chickened out. you know being in front of the camera is a big deal to some. I have been trying for years to get good pictures of my family, every single one hates being in front of the camera.

But you would think that being models that it wouldn't be a problem with it.

[forsaken]

no camrea for me today. Fixed my car audio and tweeked the sub a bit better, the company of heros on PC.

nice relaxing day (apart from the 5 hours work in the morning)

[theflyingkiwi]

no camrea for me today. Fixed my car audio and tweeked the sub a bit better, the company of heros on PC.

nice relaxing day (apart from the 5 hours work in the morning)

Company of heroes, I am playing that at the moment. this is the best RTS game to come out in along while.

[weka2000]

perhaps they chickened out. you know being in front of the camera is a big deal to some. I have been trying for years to get good pictures of my family, every single one hates being in front of the camera.

But you would think that being models that it wouldn't be a problem with it.


Arrived :lol: Will post a couple around 12 tonight

[akiwi]

Look forward to seeing something. Glad they arrived

[momentz]

Also done some gardening today, put up christmas tree, hung christmas lights.. :)

no camrea for me today. Fixed my car audio and tweeked the sub a bit better, the company of heros on PC.

What sorta setup are you running? :) Have to get my subs back in - they were removed for cactus transport:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/evobit/Plants/IMG_8307lo.jpg

[theflyingkiwi]

hey guys and gals I have been given an great idea by another person on this forum, how about we do a calendar for 07. we can mark the dates on it with the gkpe meetings etc.

[forsaken]

momentz

damn thats a huge ass cactus.

2 sets of kicker 5.2s running off a kicker amp with 1 Pioneer 12" and Fusion amp. Its a work in progress

[momentz]

momentz

damn thats a huge ass cactus.

2 sets of kicker 5.2s running off a kicker amp with 1 Pioneer 12" and Fusion amp. Its a work in progress

Yep, it's big... 8 foot + :) Trademe bargain! Only juuust fit in the wagon.
I'm running a couple of boston 12" subs of a pg amp, and some high end pioneer splits off the heady.. sounds pretty good for what it is :)

[akiwi]

Great.. What was your lighting setup?

[Shekinah]

Just saying Hi to everyone in NZ, I live in Taranaki and this thread was brought to my attention by another person.

[momentz]

Just saying Hi to everyone in NZ, I live in Taranaki and this thread was brought to my attention by another person.

Welcome to a thread which truly lives up to it's name. Here you will find 5+ pages per day of gossip and conjecture, more random chit chat than you would ever t think the mainly male contingent capable of. Attempt to keep up at your own peril!
That aside, great to see another Kiwi. We're taking over the world you know!:lol:


Tony - great lighting! But what's going on with the side of her face? I think she needs to smile too :)

*edit.. ahh I see it's her hair. Distracting..

[NordieBoy]

Welcome :D

So have you caught up on the postings?

[weka2000]

Great.. What was your lighting setup?
Large softbox on left. Small softbox above on right at back and big reflector to the right. Really need another softbox or umbrella

[DiscoLizard]

Is anyone else having internet issues atm?

[Nzshrimper]

Is anyone else having internet issues atm?
nah mines running well for once..

[DiscoLizard]

nah mines running well for once..

Really weird... some sites work just fine (like this one). And yet I can't reach google :confused:...

Odd.

[Nzshrimper]

Really weird... some sites work just fine (like this one). And yet I can't reach google :confused:...

Odd.
i take you have restarted the pc and restarted your router.. if not it may help..

[momentz]

Really weird... some sites work just fine (like this one). And yet I can't reach google :confused:...

Odd.

Apparently a few ISP's are having DNS issues at the moment. Restarting your router may help.

[DiscoLizard]

i take you have restarted the pc and restarted your router.. if not it may help..

Apparently a few ISP's are having DNS issues at the moment. Restarting your router may help.

Thanks guys.

Seems to have sorted itself out now. S'pose I'd better get back to work :p

[forsaken]

no internet issues, just vodafone service issues thismorning

[Moppie]

Mines all tickety boo here.

[Wazza]

Freaking Heck Tony..

Can you please keep those shots away from work?
I know most of us browse from work, and wouldn't view anything from People/Glamour in case we get in trouble.. That should could easily get me in trouble. :p

[weka2000]

Freaking Heck Tony..

Can you please keep those shots away from work?
I know most of us browse from work, and wouldn't view anything from People/Glamour in case we get in trouble.. That should could easily get me in trouble. :p

Sorry :o

[Wazza]

Hah, that's ok mate ;)

I was scrolling through, team leader 1 metre away, and two workmates talking by my desk.. Didn't expect female pic there!

[momentz]

Gardening!

Boring pic, but it was a hell of a lot of work! Garden was dug out to just below the first plank, and refilled mixing in lots of succulent and cacti friendly concoction :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/evobit/Plants/IMG_9021.jpg

[dgcorner]

hey guys and gals I have been given an great idea by another person on this forum, how about we do a calendar for 07. we can mark the dates on it with the gkpe meetings etc.

Mark -- seems like a good idea.

Just saying Hi to everyone in NZ, I live in Taranaki and this thread was brought to my attention by another person.

Welcome aboard!!!

[Nzshrimper]

Hey DG - my TV finally gave up its long battle to stay alive. So what deals have you got going to replace this one with a new shinny one.. looking for an Lcd - say sony 37 inch approx...

[akiwi]

Hi everyone. Hope you had a good Sunday. Mine's just beginning.
Wazza. What do you do having to work on a Sunday?
Yesterday I got frustrated trying to put in a network in my house. I need to get the cable from basically bottom right to top left. Thought it wouldn't be a problem to pull the cable through where the television cable comes down from the roof, but that is so blocked I couldn't even pull te cable out. So I started drilling. They build pretty solid houses here in Germany. After about 3 hours of drilling with various drills, bits etc. I still haven't got a hole between the ground & 1st floor. Might need a bit of TNT.
Can anyone tell me, when joining network cables (I need to join 2x 10m) do I need a twisted joiner or a straight one. I was in a shop yesterday & they only had a twisted one.

Peter

[Wazza]

Sunday to Thursday, I work at GE (General Electric)... GE Money division - finance.. More so on the collections side, and repossessions of vehicles.

Friday and Saturday I shoot weddings. (well at least if I have one booked)
Saturday just yesterday, I was at Auckland Domain, and then Shadows Bar at the uni for the big Tongan reception, with 21 pigs for about 150 guests

[Nzshrimper]

Sunday to Thursday, I work at GE (General Electric)... GE Money division - finance.. More so on the collections side, and repossessions of vehicles.

Friday and Saturday I shoot weddings. (well at least if I have one booked)
Saturday just yesterday, I was at Auckland Domain, and then Shadows Bar at the uni for the big Tongan reception, with 21 pigs for about 150 guests
thats 7 people to each pig.. bloody hell.

[NordieBoy]

Well THIS (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=246816) is what I got up to today.

[Wazza]

I was going to say 100 people, it was honestly probably closer to 100.

But yeah, only 20% of each pig was eaten.. Wayyyy too much food.

But the cake..

I'm gonna have to share a shot of that now...

[Wazza]

http://www.warrenwilliams.co.nz/cake.jpg

The cake on the right, I saw first.. Was like oh yeah, pretty typical, average size, 12-15" bottom tier..

Then I glance over at some book masterpiece, which I didn't think was quite real at first.

[Wazza]

Just saying Hi to everyone in NZ, I live in Taranaki and this thread was brought to my attention by another person.

Welcome to GKPE.

I'm surprised I never brought you this way, after the PM's many months ago.

How is the 200 1.8 going?

If ya don't remember me, I was the one who helped you with editing the kitty shot:

http://wazza.nfscity.com/temp/sharon.jpg

[theflyingkiwi]

good Monday morning everyone, well the most exciting thing I did was do some xmas shopping.

did anyone go to Pukekohe raceway during the weekend. apparently my nephew got rear ended. :( just wondering if any one here was doing any photography.

[Shekinah]

Hi Wazza, Yes, I do remember your help thanks for that!!! Here is the same photo that has been processed more.

[theflyingkiwi]

welcome sharon. That's a nice photo you got there. You could see a photo like that in a cat calander.

It looks like tony is going to be upset, another member with a 1 series camera. I can see that Tony might upgrade soon. :lol:

Just so ya know, Tony is the lens tester for the group. I have lost count of how many he has brought and sold.

Anyway welcome.

[weka2000]

Well its all over. Wekas model career is now ended. A 12 yr marriage is more important. So lucky I didnt buy any more primes :lol:

I feel its is better to have tryed and failed than never tryed at all.
If anyone is in the need of about 8 models let me know.

[Wazza]

What did you do wrong now?

800 pages. :o

From what I saw, didn't look like you had failed, just getting better and better, but relationships should always come #1, that's why I ask Kirst what I can and can't do.

[theflyingkiwi]

that sounds like something major happened in your house hold. :( but you are right, better to have tried than to keep the dream and never do anything.

so what now?

[Wazza]

I guess he's already at Karekare shooting those waterfalls, and trying something new. ;)

I did like the idea of models + waterfalls

[DiscoLizard]

You didn't fail Tony, you were just getting started!

I also liked the waterfall + model idea

[weka2000]

I guess he's already at Karekare shooting those waterfalls, and trying something new. ;)

I did like the idea of models + waterfalls

So did I. Now I have to canel all my bookings.
Major yes you have 2 choices pick 1 :cry:

I now have a new plan :lol: will let you know after I get the green light from my lovely wife.

I live by a simple saying "There are no problems just solutions yet to be found"
I WILL make money out of my photography. All this little set back does is make me more determined.

[weka2000]

Wazza how keen are you on the waterfall and model idea? Ive just had an idea.

[Wazza]

I can watch by can't play.

I simply don't have any good setup for that sort of stuff... Like Freddy

And our waterfalls are muddy, nothing tropical.
Ever taken a city girl way off country and heard them complain?

Kirst isn't one of those, tough, and willing to go through the depths of anything - but just won't have her pic taken! ;)

[tag141]

Ive just had an idea.

Sounds like an A-Team moment. Who is going to be Mr T?

[weka2000]

I can watch by can't play.

I simply don't have any good setup for that sort of stuff... Like Freddy

And our waterfalls are muddy, nothing tropical.
Ever taken a city girl way off country and heard them complain?

Kirst isn't one of those, tough, and willing to go through the depths of anything - but just won't have her pic taken! ;)

If I got the OK to shoot with another male photographer would you be intested. Im sure models would love to have more than 1 photographer
All we would need is a ST-e2 I have the rest. There is the beach as well.
I have 8 models lined up in Dec.

[akiwi]

Hey Tony, sorry to hear of your problems. We don't have any waterfalls near where I live. And any ones worth photographing are so overrun with tourists that there is no chance of photographing models. A shame you can't do it for me.
I hope you didn't do anything to cause any problems, and if not, then maybe there is still a chance, but maybe only if you can get your wife to do it with you.
You are right that 12 years of marriage aren't worth risking. I look forward to hearing your new plans.
Peter

[weka2000]

Hey Tony, sorry to hear of your problems. We don't have any waterfalls near where I live. And any ones worth photographing are so overrun with tourists that there is no chance of photographing models. A shame you can't do it for me.
I hope you didn't do anything to cause any problems, and if not, then maybe there is still a chance, but maybe only if you can get your wife to do it with you.
You are right that 12 years of marriage aren't worth risking. I look forward to hearing your new plans.
Peter


I did nothing wrong. My wife is just looking after her man
"Prevention is better than cure"

I respect her for that. I would want to protect her as well should she want to photograph 2 men in boxers while I was at work.
She is trying to protect the photographer not the Model. Must be worried that im so irritable that both models would want to jump me :)

[Wazza]

If they're true models, or everyday girls that's fine.

It's the slapper / promo / in your face sex girls, that I won't photograph.

[CliveyBoy]

So did I. Now I have to canel all my bookings... I WILL make money out of my photography. All this little set back does is make me more determined.
There are just so many benefits from having an assistant - chaperone, witness on your behalf, gofer, reflector stand, spectator remover, in-shot checker of clothing tags and other distracting objects, distraction of model while you change gear or fix err 99, porter...

Both of you are right, but as you say, there may be ways to work out a solution and I hope you find one. Not knowing whether you would have been successful will eat at you and your relationship.

Perhaps when you are 70 you will be allowed. :lol:

[weka2000]

If they're true models, or everyday girls that's fine.

It's the slapper / promo / in your face sex girls, that I won't photograph.

Theses are girls from nitro models who want proffesional photgraphs. There are also others wanting to get into a modeling career that dont have many photos for their portfilio.

I dont do slappers. However I have had requests for topless and nudes (classy the stuff you would find in the G/N section)

Any one else intreseted. I need to check that this ideas is ok with my wife.

[Wazza]

Yeah I've seen the Nitro girls around.. Plus others.

Carena and Danielle seem to be everywhere.
Including the recent D1NZ drift queen search.


Depends what day your shoot is, as to whether I can make it along.

[joeseph]

classy is good. Trouble is some people's definition of classy doesn't equal mine, or others' definition of it. I've seen stuff in the G/N section that I wouldn't take myself, but other postings there are really great quality art.