GKPE: General Ramblings thread

[Moppie]

Hmmm, I believe Iv been well and truly suckered.

Amanda on the other hand has had 5 weeks of Holiday in the last 3 months.
During that time she's been to Bali and Rotorua, and done precisely nothing on the house............

Hmmmmmmm, but! She doesn't own a 30D, with lenses covering 17-300mm :D :D :D :D

[tag141]

......Holiday....Rotorua

Techinically, I don't think Rotorua counts as a holiday does it? :p

I'm sending the 1D back to base for a check up :cry: . Reading a post in the equipment section, some guy has problems with banding at high ISO. I went back and looked closer at some images and there is definately something fishy going on. Even at 400 I can see what I think is banding. Of course I may be paranoid and trying to find a problem when there may not be one, but better to be happy than frustrated. I thought it only happened when heavily underexposed images were recovered too far but some of mine aren't underexposed and it's there. We'll see what Mr Canon (or Mrs Canon for that matter) have to say.

[tecumseh]

Howdy folks. I have never seen a thread this long in my life. Surely this ranks as one of NZ's undiscovered treasures. It should be in Te Papa...

Anyway, I'm a (very) amateur photographer from Grey Lynn, Auckland. I just made the jump to digital, and have a 400D with EF 28-135mm IS and EFS 10-22mm lenses. I am saving for the 100mm macro next.

Here are three shots from locations you may recognise:

http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Etmarkham/karekare5.jpg


http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Etmarkham/cow.jpg



http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Etmarkham/awhitu2.jpg

[DiscoLizard]

Welcome tecumseh! Yes, there is a lot of rambling that goes on here - mostly about Tony buying new lenses....

Those are some very nice photos to start off with!

[joeseph]

Howdy folks. I have never seen a thread this long in my life. Surely this ranks as one of NZ's undiscovered treasures. It should be in Te Papa...

Howdy neighbour! welcome aboard - you're right about the undiscovered treasure bit, there's probably a whole bunch of astronomers (& astrologers) feavourishly trying to discover the cause of a large black hole into which a number of Kiwi's pour time & money into!!

p.s. before you scrub yer sensor again, come and see me - I've got a sensor filter (ex 20D but essentially the same) you can have a go at seeing how easy it is to scratch. See link in my sig. ;)

[weka2000]

Well just had a phone call from a "Model" company that needs a permant photographer to do all the model shoots for the comapany at $150 a model
30-50 models need photos done :lol:

I turned them down.

Basically I feel I am not good enought yet.
Even my wife said are you nuts :confused:

[weka2000]

Welcome Tecumseh. We are all amatures here a few wana bees floating around :lol:

[tag141]

Howdy folks. I have never seen a thread this long in my life. Surely this ranks as one of NZ's undiscovered treasures. It should be in Te Papa...

Anyway, I'm a (very) amateur photographer from Grey Lynn, Auckland.

Bugger, if I'd known you were from Auckland I'd never have pointed you over here ;) Nice to see you've already got a model in one of your shots. I hear a model agency is looking for a photographer. Between 30-50 models @ $150 per model.:p

[forsaken]

welcome tecumseh to our little slice of the internet

[weka2000]

A wise man knows their strenghts and weakness. I dont bullsh*t anyones or blow my own horn. My photography is judeged on what others think not what I think.

I dont get WOW's with my photos and untill I do I am nothing more than a person with a camera that takes the odd good photo.

At any point its not where I want to go. I like my woman 30+ mature, sensual and real.

Landscape 85% Glamour 15%

[tecumseh]

p.s. before you scrub yer sensor again, come and see me - I've got a sensor filter (ex 20D but essentially the same) you can have a go at seeing how easy it is to scratch. See link in my sig. ;)

I just checked out your link and immediately had to triple check I hadn't done something similar. But no, apart from two tiny ~f/22 dots in the bottom right my sensor seems to have survived the scrubbing. Cheers for the warning and offer.

[DiscoLizard]

Gidday all, I just uploaded a couple of shots from one of my colleagues I photographed the other day.
Strength (http://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=261477)
Classic look (http://www.photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=261478)
I have a few more, but I can't post them all at once.

I particularly liked the second image in the classic look thread.

[theflyingkiwi]

welcome tecumseh. that's a good start to you posting here. Nice photos.

Don't listen to Tony, he is letting other people judge his photos rather than beleving in himself :)

[weka2000]

welcome tecumseh. that's a good start to you posting here. Nice photos.

Don't listen to Tony, he is letting other people judge his photos rather than beleving in himself :)

Well I dont post the crap ones only the ones I think are the best.
Note the words "I think"

What would you rather...people sayin what a great photo or you saying here is the best photo I have ever taken dont you guys all agree (only to get a responce back saying its crap)

Better to have ego inflated by others rather than deflated :lol:

[Moppie]

Well just had a phone call from a "Model" company that needs a permant photographer to do all the model shoots for the comapany at $150 a model
30-50 models need photos done :lol:



At $150 I hope they are supplying the studio and lighting gear.
I also hope they expect no more than about 3 photos per model, and to get 10 modesl through in each sitting.

[weka2000]

At $150 I hope they are supplying the studio and lighting gear.
I also hope they expect more than about 3 photos per model, and to get 10 modesl through in each sitting.


Dam you are money orintated :lol:

[theflyingkiwi]

Well I dont post the crap ones only the ones I think are the best.
Note the words "I think"

What would you rather...people sayin what a great photo or you saying here is the best photo I have ever taken dont you guys all agree (only to get a responce back saying its crap)

Better to have ego inflated by others rather than deflated :lol:

lets just say you are getting other photographers to judge your work. which in itself I think is a bad idea. a photographer is going to find the little bits that are wrong with a photo. Which is based on what the photographer would include or exclude in the photo.

If you really wont to know if you have that wow factor, print out a photo that you like, and show it to a non photographer and then see the type of response you get. I don't consider myself a great photograher by any means but people still like my work.

[Moppie]

Dam you are money orintated :lol:

LOL!
Actualy I'm quite the Anti-Materailist/Consumerist.

But, if you going to be a proffesional photographer then you have to look at it like a bussiness.
Even if your not going to be a Pro, and just get some work on the side, if that work is going to be for a Company, then you have to treat them accordinly and conduct yourself in a similar fashion.
That means don't let them use you to get some good quality photos which would have cost tens time more else where.

[weka2000]

lets just say you are getting other photographers to judge your work. which in itself I think is a bad idea. a photographer is going to find the little bits that are wrong with a photo. Which is based on what the photographer would include or exclude in the photo.

If you really wont to know if you have that wow factor, print out a photo that you like, and show it to a non photographer and then see the type of response you get. I don't consider myself a great photograher by any means but people still like my work.

I would expect the best if I was paying someone, why would except any less of myself.

A non photographer is like a car owner whos knows nothing about cars and thinks a lada is a great car.

Expensive cars are judged by experts thats why they are the best. Thats why you pay top dollar.

Moppie I still agree about a photographer been worth their $$$
I dont think my work is there yet, despite what the models think.

[tecumseh]

Don't listen to Tony, he is letting other people judge his photos rather than beleving in himself :)

For me, 'karekare wave' is one of the most aesthetically pleasing and - having grown up at piha and nearly drowned there more times than i care to remember - personally resonating photos I have seen in a long time. Very inspiring stuff.

[Moppie]

A non photographer is like a car owner whos knows nothing about cars and thinks a lada is a great car.

Expensive cars are judged by experts thats why they are the best. Thats why you pay top dollar.


Bullshat.
To someone with no money, living in Russia 20 years ago, a Lada is a great car.
Expensive cars are judged by ignorant and opinionated journalists, people like Jeremy Clarkson who can't really drive very well, and don't actualy know anything about what makes the car perform the way it does. Society lets them judge cars because we find them entertaining, not because they know what they are talking about.

But most cars are judged by the average consumer, the people who actualy go out and buy them, and drive them everyday.
Based on that the worlds greatest cars the Toyota Corrolla and the Honda Civic.


Moppie I still agree about a photographer been worth their $$$
I dont think my work is there yet, despite what the models think.

So you have an end customer that is very pleased with your work, and is now prepared to pay for it, but you don't think thier judgement if of a high enough standard yet, so you won't charge them?
(we're talking about your work here, just your percpetion of other peoples perceptions of your work).
For me, if I was photographing models, then I would consider thier opinion to be the one that matter about how good I am.
After all its them, not us, who are the end users of your photographs.



I do however understand your objections, you have said several times this is a stepping stone to bigger things.
Its relativly clear your not interested in being a model photographer, your are instead aiming to be a fine art photographer. One whos prefered subjects are women and nature, preferably together.
May I suggest a change in tack to make reaching your end goal a little easier?
Move away from comercial model photography (which is what you are getting into), and move more towards fine art work.
Join NZIPP, and NZPS, and start looking for fine art models, or see if the ones you have are more interested in doing some fine art work.
Then work on taking some fine art shots.
Do several along a similar theme, and then start approaching gallerys and try to get some public showings.
Also get in contact with some publishing companys etc, see what sort of market there is for fine art photography in NZ.
I know its there, my Uncle is starting to get quite well known for his work.

You have established an ablity to get noticed, and make contact with the right people.
Prehaps you need to put that into a different direction?

[weka2000]

For me, 'karekare wave' is one of the most aesthetically pleasing and - having grown up at piha and nearly drowned there more times than i care to remember - personally resonating photos I have seen in a long time. Very inspiring stuff.

ego inflated :lol: . I grew up at Mt Maunganui so I have simalar exprences. I had to wait for that wave. Spent 1 hr on that spot.

[weka2000]

Moppie..... Now you know why I dont photograph cars :)

Yes stepping stones. I follow my own beat not that of a company. I work best with 1 on 1 and I dont like to be rushed, pushed or demanded of.

I know when I will be ready and untill then I will do what I want, when I want and how I want :lol:

[Moppie]

damn artists.........

:lol: :lol: ;)

[weka2000]

damn artists.........

:lol: :lol: ;)

I used to say the same about musios

Hey buy my work now, will be worth millions once Im dead :lol:

[weka2000]

Weka2000 is now known as the artist :rolleyes:

From yesterday

[weka2000]

Moppie I checked out NZIPP........ umm I dont fit in there. They have rules and I am to much of a rebel.

I think I will use "Fellow of GKPE and Member of POTN" :lol:

I guess that there is too much going on in my life and I just want everything to settle before I look at paid work.
I need to get settled in to my new home and all the other adjustments

[Nzshrimper]

Bullshat.
To someone with no money, living in Russia 20 years ago, a Lada is a great car.
Expensive cars are judged by ignorant and opinionated journalists, people like Jeremy Clarkson who can't really drive very well, and don't actualy know anything about what makes the car perform the way it does. Society lets them judge cars because we find them entertaining, not because they know what they are talking about.

But most cars are judged by the average consumer, the people who actualy go out and buy them, and drive them everyday.
Based on that the worlds greatest cars the Toyota Corrolla and the Honda Civic.


or the Volkswagen beetle. surly that must be the best car in the world (and thats the old style not the new one)

[Moppie]

From yesterday

Thats another Beautiful shot!

More layered Raws again?

[tim]

Weka, that one's great too, but i'd tone down the sky a little.

I went to order an AMD X2 4200+ CPU today and nowhere has then in stock, the distributed has stopped selling them! One place can get me a 4600 is all, and trademe has a couple. Annoying, no way i'm replacing a motherboard, RAM, and CPU for a little upgrade, this machine (AMD 3200+) is still pretty good, just want dual core for bridge.

[Wazza]

I'd straighten the horizon Tony, and possibly tone down just slightly as Tim recommends. Other than that, it's a great new workflow.. Certainly pops an image ;)


Hey Tim, what do you have on for the weekend of 2nd March to 4th March?
I'm likely to fly into Wellington early Friday morning.

[weka2000]

Yes another one from the artist :lol:

The edge of the hill and sky is not right. Mattl taught me something the other day with out realising it.

Slow down and blow up.

Tim I wondered if I should have made the sand darker but it didnt look right
Wazza I need to get a good solid work flow going. Landscape is different from models.

[theflyingkiwi]

Weka2000 is now known as the artist :rolleyes:

From yesterday

hmm, first thought was WOW. What struck me when I first saw it was the contrast between the sky and the ground. I like it.

and I am not just saying that either.

however looking closer, it would be nicer to have the horizon straighter, something isn't quite right with the sky, so perhaps toning down the sky would help with that.

I like how everything is leading to a point that is off centre. if you follow the line of the clouds, the rock face and the sand they all lead to the same place. perhaps something should be there, but sometimes you don't have to either. with out anyone there it seems like it's far away and moody.

[forsaken]

Weka2000 is now known as the artist :rolleyes:

From yesterday



Stunning shot there Tony.

[weka2000]

Been playing with CS2 this is what I came up with. Oh just 1 image no blends.

[MattL]

No image there tony..

[MattL]

Hey as you all know i just bought a house.. so now im trying to work out who to go with for broadband. Any suggestions? I'm looking for no speed limits up or down, 20-30gig traffic with free national. APE peering preferred.

Any ideas? I'm stuck.. none of my options seem too good :(

[Moppie]

Any ideas? I'm stuck.. none of my options seem too good :(

Sadly, none of the options are any good.

You either go with Xtra, and get average service all over, or get one of the other companies who still have to go through xtra, but offer a service thats really good in one area, but crap in all the others.
Of course you could spend lots of money every month and get one of Xtra bussiness conections. Although that could be a challange if you have pay a mortgage as well :)

[Cyborg Death Ninja]

Go with Orcon they have interleaving off which is good better news if you're a gamer.

[Cyborg Death Ninja]

Don't go with Xtra, they are the devil.

[theflyingkiwi]

guys soon you will be able to backup 50gb of data on a single disk :)

http://gear.ign.com/articles/753/753465p1.html

and for the totally geeky that are here

http://gear.ign.com/articles/754/754184p1.html

[weka2000]

Dam cant upload a photo...keeps timming out :evil:

[::John::]

Hey Tim, what do you have on for the weekend of 2nd March to 4th March?
I'm likely to fly into Wellington early Friday morning.

Crikey, I'll be in town around then, too. Prep for a wedding in Levin on the 17th and then fly straight back here for one on the 24th way the hell north of Sydney.

[joeseph]

Any ideas? I'm stuck.. none of my options seem too good :(
As one of our senior engineers put it yesterday "Broadband in NZ is like rotten fruit compared to the rest of the world - you get the choice of rotten apple 'A' or rotten apple 'B' but both are pretty unpalatable"
go with whoever you're tolls are with, at least you'll save $10 per month.

[akiwi]

As one of our senior engineers put it yesterday "Broadband in NZ is like rotten fruit compared to the rest of the world - you get the choice of rotten apple 'A' or rotten apple 'B' but both are pretty unpalatable"
go with whoever you're tolls are with, at least you'll save $10 per month.
Hey.. I'm in Germany, which is meant to be one of the best places in the world for broadband.
I live just outside Munich and it took me months to get broadband. Now I have it I have a sloooooow connection. Occasionally it goes up to 1000, but mostly it putters along at 200kbs or so.

[momentz]

Took some pics of my Caldina this evening, if anyone's interested.. before I ran out of light..

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=261667

[akiwi]

I was just browsing the B&H catalogue, and had a fit laughing when I saw a couple of the products they have.
Popabrella rain (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=ProductDetail&A=showItemLargeImage&Q=&sku=457503)
Popabrella mini (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=ProductDetail&A=showItemLargeImage&Q=&sku=457500)
This is for ipod fanatics who have everything (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=Search&A=details&Q=&sku=461633&is=REG&addedTroughType=search)

[theflyingkiwi]

that last one is just wrong. I guess that mini popabrella isn't something you would use to cover a 1 series :)

[momentz]

This is for ipod fanatics who have everything (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=Search&A=details&Q=&sku=461633&is=REG&addedTroughType=search)

:lol: :lol:

[Cyborg Death Ninja]

Post dig:

Bullshat.
To someone with no money, living in Russia 20 years ago, a Lada is a great car.
Expensive cars are judged by ignorant and opinionated journalists, people like Jeremy Clarkson who can't really drive very well, and don't actualy know anything about what makes the car perform the way it does. Society lets them judge cars because we find them entertaining, not because they know what they are talking about.

But most cars are judged by the average consumer, the people who actualy go out and buy them, and drive them everyday.
Based on that the worlds greatest cars the Toyota Corrolla and the Honda Civic.
I'd have to disagree with you there. While it is the the 'average consumer' that judges the cars this does not mean that their opinions are in anyway educated and are in anyway meritable or accurate. This becomes quite apparent when we look at the vast majority of 'average consumers' which plague the streets of Auckland in pseudo off road vehicles which were brought without the slightest intention of touching a single blade of grass. These people buy these cars thinking the are big and safe when the actual reality is that they are danger to themselves and others. The average motoring consumers are under educated and I would never trust a single word of their motoring advice,.. New Zealand breeds a whole new type of average motoring consumers which are (for lack of a better expression) motoring retarded.

While journalists like Jeremy Clarkson may not be the most gifted drivers they have educated opinions of cars which the average consumer does not. Their life and income is devoted to cars and their driving experience far exceeds most 'average consumers'. Also part of being a motoring journalist involves seeking the answers from average consumers where their driving experience is not adequate, for example seeking experience from couriers when reviewing a Ford Transit. The reason why 'society lets them judge cars' is not 'because we find them entertaining' but because of two reasons; Time and Money. Not every average consumer has the time to test every car they have the option of buying nor can they afford to, instead we look to the services that a motor journalist experienced position offers. It is quite likely that none of us will ever drive a Zonda or a Koenigsegg and in this case we can only rely on a motor journalists opinion.

And I should remind you that not all motor journalists are average drivers. Tiff Needell is an excellent example of a motor journalist who can drive. I remember seeing him setting impressive lap times test driving the Ferrari Enzo, and it goes without saying that his times would have been more impressive had he not being so concerned about crashing one of the most expensive cars in the world.

You are right about one thing however and I suspect it was the point you where intending to make; opinions are relative.


/End Rant.

[theflyingkiwi]

ah you know that moppie was only making a generalisation to prove his point.

I would like to point out that Tiff is a better driver than Clarkson and would trust his review more than clarkson. However clarkson is funner.

[Moppie]

You are right about one thing however and I suspect it was the point you where intending to make; opinions are relative.



More specificity what is "good" or "great" about something is always an opinion, which, is always relative :)

From the point of view of a Car Manufacturer, cars are made in order to make money. In order to make money they have to sell, so as far as the manufacturers are concerned the greatest judges of cars are the people who buy them :)

Of course from a more passionate view point, the average consumer is nothing more than an uneducated dolt, who freely submits them selves to being victims of Marketing campaigns. Hence they fall for thinly disguised exercisers in cost cutting, buying modern cars that look pretty on the surface, but have actually regressed back 20 years when you examine the engineering underneath.


There are plenty of very good motoring journalists, many of which are very good drivers. Tiff Needle is an excellent example.
Unfortunately objective reviews make for boring TV, hence we get stuck with dick heads like Clarkson.



Of course all of this chat is better suited to a car forum :)
Besides, I got over the whole "my car is better than you car" crap when I bought a Honda. There simple is nothing better :p

[Cyborg Death Ninja]

Haha yeah I know it was just a generalisation and forgive me if I come across as arrogant or over the top. I can assure you I was merely making a long winded correction to a left handed comment.

I would like to point out that Tiff is a better driver than Clarkson and would trust his review more than clarkson. However clarkson is funner.
Quoted for truth.

[theflyingkiwi]

well he does seem to have rather a large head doesn't he :)

[Cyborg Death Ninja]

Tbh I think Clarkson is one of the best journalists around,.. yes he is very unjustly opinionated but he does is job very well. His books often have me laughing out loud.

Of course whether Clarkson is "good" or "great" is a matter of opinion which leads us back to your original point of which I agree with whole heartedly ;)

[akiwi]

I need to get a new car this year. I have never heard of Tiff Needle or Clarkson!
When I buy a car I choose based on:
1. What I need. (Better said what I think I need or try to convince myself I need)
2. How it looks.
3. What it costs.
4. That inexplainable individual brand image perception.
5. What I read / hear.

Point 1 stays at the top.
2, 3 & 4 are all interchangeable.
And point 5 can affect the position of point 4.

There are of course other points like.. What I am allowed, & what is available.

If a journalists opinion is to affect my decision, then it is only when this car is already in my short list.

[theflyingkiwi]

I need to get a new car this year. I have never heard of Tiff Needle or Clarkson!
When I buy a car I choose based on:
1. What I need. (Better said what I think I need or try to convince myself I need)
2. How it looks.
3. What it costs.
4. That inexplainable individual brand image perception.
5. What I read / hear.

Point 1 stays at the top.
2, 3 & 4 are all interchangeable.
And point 5 can affect the position of point 4.

There are of course other points like.. What I am allowed, & what is available.

If a journalists opinion is to affect my decision, then it is only when this car is already in my short list.

I would think clarkson doesn't get much air time on German tv, he seems to make a lot of cracks about how Germany didn't win WW2. Of course we are glad that they didn't but he doesn't know when to let it go.

[Cyborg Death Ninja]

Besides, I got over the whole "my car is better than you car" crap when I bought a Honda. There simple is nothing better
You clearly have never heard of the mythological beast called the 1988 Toyota Corona. My personal beast has 420,000km under its arm and it's as handsome and determined as the day I bequeathed him.

Of course all of this chat is better suited to a car forum
Agreed, sorry for the mega off topic.

[akiwi]

Agreed, sorry for the mega off topic.
Maybe you car experts can help me choose a car then.
I need a station wagen. (Family)
It needs to be Diesel.
I would like 4WD as my parents in law live in the mountains in Austria & I hate constantly having to put chains on & off. Also my brother in law has built a hut up on a mountain where the road is not very street car friendly.
I drive a lot on Autobahns. (100 km / day)
Consumption is important.
It can't be too expensive as it is a company car & I have to pay tax based on the price:

What do you think would fit my requirements.
I have a particular car on my short list (Not released yet) I'll mention that later.

[theflyingkiwi]

I wouldn't worry about you. after all this is called general ramblings :) anyway when was the last time we talked about photograph :)

Besides, I got over the whole "my car is better than you car" crap when I bought a Honda. There simple is nothing better :p

ohh no, not another honda fan. what's up with that ;)

[theflyingkiwi]

Maybe you car experts can help me choose a car then.
I need a station wagen. (Family)
It needs to be Diesel.
I would like 4WD as my parents in law live in the mountains in Austria & I hate constantly having to put chains on & off. Also my brother in law has built a hut up on a mountain where the road is not very street car friendly.
I drive a lot on Autobahns. (100 km / day)
Consumption is important.
It can't be too expensive as it is a company car & I have to pay tax based on the price:

What do you think would fit my requirements.
I have a particular car on my short list (Not released yet) I'll mention that later.

only one car you need, it's not diesel tho

but it will get you from point a to point b nicely

http://www.seriouswheels.com/cars/top-2004-Audi-RS6-Avant-Plus.htm

:lol: :lol:

[tim]

Hey Tim, what do you have on for the weekend of 2nd March to 4th March? I'm likely to fly into Wellington early Friday morning.

No bookings for that weekend yet, i'll be around :)

Hey as you all know i just bought a house.. so now im trying to work out who to go with for broadband. Any suggestions? I'm looking for no speed limits up or down, 20-30gig traffic with free national. APE peering preferred.

Any ideas? I'm stuck.. none of my options seem too good :(

Xtra leads the way because they're a monopoly.

Don't go with Xtra, they are the devil.

The devil has the best stuff

[akiwi]

only one car you need, it's not diesel tho

but it will get you from point a to point b nicely

http://www.seriouswheels.com/cars/top-2004-Audi-RS6-Avant-Plus.htm

:lol: :lol:
Oooh. I need to clean my keyboard.
My neighbour had a tuned RS4. He took me for a drive on the autobahn. I was quite impressed when he changed into 6th gear at 240 kmh and accelerated to nearly 260 before we had to break due to traffic.:cool:
Hmm The RS6 would have problems in snow & offroad as it is too low & is too thirsty. A litre super here costs nearly $3!! so consumption also plays a role.
Oh, & I think I will be selling my camping bus in favour of a carivan as the taxes for that have also gone through the roof this year.

So any other suggestions? Show mw photos so we can keep this thread marginally photo related.

[Nzshrimper]

Web site almost done should be up and running in less than a week.

Its fun learning new skills (HTML programming)

[akiwi]

Nice looking photos. As mentioned, the DOF on that shell is spot on.
Got my B&H catalogue today. Must have got lost in the post.

I just got an e-mail from a friend of mine from here in Germany saying he is in Auckland. He takes outstanding landscape photographs. Only problem is he has a camera with one of those yellow & black straps that begin with N!!!
Any chance he can join you guys on a couple of outings? His name is Uwe Steger. You can check out some of his pictures Here at Fotocommunity (http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/766601)
Oops!! I just worked out that the Uwe in New Zealand is another one. He isn't a photographer. I used him as a model once. http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/476799/display/6143012. He is a Carpenter. Anyone looking for some carpentry work?

[scotttnz]

Hmmmm.....raining....not much good for painting the house or photography....

[weka2000]

Finally after 12 hrs the missing pic

[weka2000]

Hmmmm.....raining....not much good for painting the house or photography....

Do you see the glass half full or half empty :lol:

[scotttnz]

Gonna ring Moppie in a miute and seee if he wands to go out anyway.

Love the colours and textures in that shot Tony, but sorry the composition is boring. You know i don't like the subject dead centre.

[scotttnz]

Moppie, I can't find your number. Give me a call on 027 2123769.

[weka2000]

Love the colours and textures in that shot Tony, but sorry the composition is boring. You know i don't like the subject dead centre.

Meant to be dead center due to the curvature of the horizon. I do know what you are saying.

[forsaken]

only photography i will be doing today is that of a friend wrecked car as we strip it for parts.

[Moppie]

Agreed, sorry for the mega off topic.


Nah, don't worry about it, it beats talking about Tonys lenses :p

[scotttnz]

The weather forcast for the next couple of days is crap. so if nobody objects strongly, I'm gonna postpone the bbq untill mid feb.

[weka2000]

The weather forcast for the next couple of days is crap. so if nobody objects strongly, I'm gonna postpone the bbq untill mid feb.

I think most of us a free in Feb and more settled

[Moppie]

No worries, any particular date in Feb?

[DiscoLizard]

Well... happy birthday to me :)

I'll finally get a chance this weekend to sit down at my pc and pp my holiday photos!

Tony - your landscape shots on average have more wow factor than your glamour shots, so far. But that may be because you've taken so many landscapes that you've learned how to find the interesting shot. Nothing good comes easy

[weka2000]

Well... happy birthday to me :)

I'll finally get a chance this weekend to sit down at my pc and pp my holiday photos!

Tony - your landscape shots on average have more wow factor than your glamour shots, so far. But that may be because you've taken so many landscapes that you've learned how to find the interesting shot. Nothing good comes easy

Yes landscapes are more of who I am. I notice far more about a landscape than I do a model. Posture etc is not a strong point

Landscapes 90% Glamour 10%

PS Happy Birthday

[theflyingkiwi]

Well... happy birthday to me :)

I'll finally get a chance this weekend to sit down at my pc and pp my holiday photos!

Tony - your landscape shots on average have more wow factor than your glamour shots, so far. But that may be because you've taken so many landscapes that you've learned how to find the interesting shot. Nothing good comes easy

Happy birthday man, I hope ya had a good one

[weka2000]

Nothing good comes easy

If you want to be great at something you first need to be naturally good at it.
We all have built in talents it is part of who we are.

I grew up in the country as a small boy then by the beach untill 25ish spent 20 yrs working outside in the elements, have always loved nature and the outdoors
so naturally I would be good at seeing a landscape and knowing how it works and whats going on. (now I need to learn to compose what I see)

People on the other hand....... I am a loner I prefer to be by myself rather than with others. I have zero tolerance for people. So with that attitude and outlook and a personality that gets peoples backs up I struggle. I dont understand people nor do I want to, basically I dont care about the rest of the planet. People frustrate me. Always have always will. So dealing with models does not come easy.

So naturally I am not going to make a great "People" photographer unless I have a major attitude adjustment (like that would happen). I have to accept that while I will never make a fine art photographer I can still enjoy the works of others as I do with Music (cant sing play or have a musical note in my body).

The itch is stratched. Now to become great at what I am naturally good at.

PS Im having a day from hell (thanks to people) thus the mood.

[MattL]

anybody have a dsl router spare they can loan me for a month and a half or so? seems silly for me to buy one for such a short period of time. Beer offered in return ;) or a loan of 580ex or something?

Getting excited about my new place! Moppie we should start a new home owners club :D

[Nzshrimper]

anybody have a dsl router spare they can loan me for a month and a half or so? seems silly for me to buy one for such a short period of time. Beer offered in return ;) or a loan of 580ex or something?

Getting excited about my new place! Moppie we should start a new home owners club :D
yep got one here Matt - pm address and settings for broadband and ill have it configured and posted to yar

[Moppie]

Moppie we should start a new home owners club :D


Start a new home owners forum :)

Its all fun untill you get your first rates bill.
And then you deciede to fix something............

[MattL]

already decided im destroying (then fixing) the bathroom the first day I get in there.

Rates shouldn't be for a while.. right? aargh. lol.

[MattL]

yep got one here Matt - pm address and settings for broadband and ill have it configured and posted to yar


Thanks mate! I'll wait a day or so to see if there is one in AKL to save some postage!

[Nzshrimper]

Thanks mate! I'll wait a day or so to see if there is one in AKL to save some postage!
no worries just let me know
(also work pay for the courier shh don't tell the boss)

[joeseph]

Thanks mate! I'll wait a day or so to see if there is one in AKL to save some postage!
I've got one that belongs to me that I loan to customers - let me know what config you want on it & I'll set it up. And as a bonus you know where I work!

[MattL]

grr I hate the state of telecomms in this country.
I dont want a phone line from telecom, i have my mobile thats all I need.
Yet i need one for DSL.
I cant order the DSL untill the phone line is active, which cant be done untill the 20th.
After I order it on the 20th, it will at least 3-5 days to get setup.

So im forced to pay for my phone, and not have any net for a week.
Bastards.

So thanks Duncan. I wont need it till after the 20th then.
GRR

[akiwi]

Morning / eveing all. Was a big storm here last night & the temperatures are about 20 degrees higher than they should be at this time of the year!!
This global warming thing is scary!

Hey Tony.. Don't despair. I'm also crap at judging / understanding people, but it is an area in photography I thoroughly doing. I definitley have little or no natural tallent there. I have seen works from other people with less experience & equipement than I have that just blow me away, but I enjoy it. It is fun, and I love being able to please people with results I get. Even if I am not happy, they an amatures are usually over the moon. With each shoot I get better (Or make new mistakes and hopefully learn from them).
Just take it one step at a time, & try to enjoy it. Maybe don't rush into it too fast. Take your time.
I wish we where closer.. we could do a couple of shoots together & maybe learn from each other.

[theflyingkiwi]

Morning / eveing all. Was a big storm here last night & the temperatures are about 20 degrees higher than they should be at this time of the year!!
This global warming thing is scary!

If you wont to see something scary, watch An Inconvenient Truth.

That will open you eyes and wont to make you use a push bike everywhere you go :)

however today I found something even more scary, Windows Vista. nothing like MS trying to tell people how to use an OS.

[joeseph]

grr I hate the state of telecomms in this country.
Don't get me started - at new years resolution time I came to the conclusion that I'm doing stuff I don't really enjoy, for a company that I really don't like, with only a few people that know what they're doing. :rolleyes:

[theflyingkiwi]

Don't get me started - at new years resolution time I came to the conclusion that I'm doing stuff I don't really enjoy, for a company that I really don't like, with only a few people that know what they're doing. :rolleyes:

why do you think I am leaving the company that I am working for.

[momentz]

grr I hate the state of telecomms in this country.
I dont want a phone line from telecom, i have my mobile thats all I need.
Yet i need one for DSL.
I cant order the DSL untill the phone line is active, which cant be done untill the 20th.
After I order it on the 20th, it will at least 3-5 days to get setup.

So im forced to pay for my phone, and not have any net for a week.
Bastards.

So thanks Duncan. I wont need it till after the 20th then.
GRR

Have you looked at any wireless plans? We're on Ihug wireless and it's decent. Same story as you - didn't want to pay telescum for a line when we have cell phones.

[MattL]

Have you looked at any wireless plans? We're on Ihug wireless and it's decent. Same story as you - didn't want to pay telescum for a line when we have cell phones.

No, i didnt actually.

I'll have a quick peak now, but i've already commmited to the line install anyway.

[MattL]

It would appear I cant find any info about ihug wireless on their website... so they obviously don't want me to have it.

I don't like ihug anyho. I'm with them currently.

[Nzshrimper]

any one else having net issues tonight... i keep timing out on this site and few other international based sites.. (could be just a south island thing thou)

[MattL]

fine for me here.

[tim]

I'm getting timeouts to some sites here, on xtra, fastest adsl plan.

[Moppie]

Iv been having issues all day with a number of overseas sites.

I would say someone at telecum tripped over a cable or two at some stage this morning or last night.

[Nzshrimper]

oh well its not just me then.. right i have had enough of this tonight - i am off to bed.

[akiwi]

No problems here in Germany ;-)

[tommykjensen]

We interrupt the scheduled program with an extremely important service announcement!


Submissions are now OPEN for the POTN Book 2007

Submissions will be accepted from:

5 Jan 07 to 28 Jan 07

Every POTN member who joined on or before 1 Nov 06 can submit pictures for consideration. You may enter up to two pictures in each of the 12 POTN Picture Sharing areas and you can enter as many 'Shares' as you like.

Images are submitted via this website: http://potn.newquay-plus.co.uk/

Images should be 1200px (longest side) Max Qual (min 10 setting in Photoshop) JPEGs saved in sRGB colour space with the EXIF intact. The filename is to follow this format: "POTNUSERNAME-SHARENAME-0x.jpg" - eg "PEKKA-PERFORMINGARTS-01.jpg"

For more detailed info read the FAQ and Terms and Conditions Thread (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=235796) and the POTN Book Project Q&A Thread (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=232257)

Here is a report on how submissions are going.


POTN Book Project Submission Report
Fri Jan 12 05:30:01 2007 (+5:00 UTC)

Forum Name Submitted Goal Goal%
----------------------------------------
People 26 123 21%
Performaing Arts 5 27 18%
Glamour & Nude 3 27 11%
Sports 6 51 11%
Motorsports 9 27 33%
Birds 36 87 41%
Nature & Animals 33 123 26%
Macro 10 87 11%
Transportation 20 51 39%
Urban Life 14 51 27%
Travel & Landscapes 30 111 27%
Still, B/W & Exp 16 51 31%
------------------------------------------
TOTALS: 208 816 25%

[MattL]

oh my!an outsider!

[akiwi]

LOL. That's good advertisig. An entire country now knows the status.

[tommykjensen]

oh my!an outsider!

Hehe does it count that someday I would like to visit New Zealand :lol:

[Cyborg Death Ninja]

Hehe does it count that someday I would like to visit New Zealand :lol:
I'll let it slide if you bring loads of king size Toblerone with you.

Been trying to hone my post skills by taking random photos I've taken and seeing what I can do with them,.. Thoughts? I realise it's dark but thats more or less the style I was going for. I really need to start shooting in RAW but unfortunately I can't afford the space :(

[scotttnz]

No worries, any particular date in Feb?

I was thinking Feb 10th or 17th.

Any preferences?

[akiwi]

Definitely an improvement! How did you straighten the horizon like that?

[Wazza]

17th and 24th definately out for me. Have weddings on both those days.

[weka2000]

Dam this site has been slow

[Wazza]

This site is slow. Youtube simply won't load videos. Other sites aren't going.

Thanks telescum

[Cyborg Death Ninja]

Definitely an improvement! How did you straighten the horizon like that?
Just Rotated the Canvas an Abitrary amount,.. I think it was 4.5 degrees CCW in this perticular image.

Playing around I think I've figured out one of wekas tricks. If not one of his tricks it's a poor mans rip off :P

[Nzshrimper]

it would appear that the telecom techie has found the cable that he pulled out.. and put it back in .. the sites are back to normal.

[weka2000]

it would appear that the telecom techie has found the cable that he pulled out.. and put it back in .. the sites are back to normal.

The lad deserves a pay rise :lol:

[joeseph]

it would appear that the telecom techie has found the cable that he pulled out.. and put it back in .. the sites are back to normal.
more likely the cleaner needed a mains plug to power their floor polisher...

[Cyborg Death Ninja]

Telecom has always put profit before service, it's never a surprise when something doesn't work.

[weka2000]

Telecom has always put profit before service, it's never a surprise when something doesn't work.

Telecom is like every other company $$$$$$$$$$$

[theflyingkiwi]

Telecom is like every other company $$$$$$$$$$$

then why are people surprised?

[naqs]

Telecom is like every other company $$$$$$$$$$$

This site is slow. Youtube simply won't load videos. Other sites aren't going.

Thanks telescum

Why are you people even with telecom... switch to other companies iHUG's good

[Nzshrimper]

Why are you people even with telecom... switch to other companies iHUG's good
and who do you think ihug is with...

[theflyingkiwi]

and who do you think ihug is with...

I think that you will find that ihug has been brought out by vodafone.

anyway all ISP has to deal with telescum. I wouldn't go with them for all the tea in china.

[Wazza]

We're with Telecom coz we have some Sky-Fi package... Cheap Sky as well.. if we disconnected or changed, our bill would be considerably more. Think sky costs around $50-56.. I'm sure it's 70-80 these days for all movies/sports and other channels.

[Nzshrimper]

anyway all ISP has to deal with telescum. I wouldn't go with them for all the tea in china.

that was the point i was trying to make.. :D

[weka2000]

I wouldn't go with them for all the tea in china.
Not much tea there. Most is from India :lol:

[Nzshrimper]

what the photo gallery software that you guys suggest.

[Cyborg Death Ninja]

what the photo gallery software that you guys suggest.
PicaJet, I'm currently beta testing version 3 which I can tell you will be even better.

::EDIT::

Sorry were you meaning Photo Management/Organizer Software or Web Gallery Publishing software?

[weka2000]

what the photo gallery software that you guys suggest.

jalbum

[Nzshrimper]

jalbum
thats the puppy... thanks mate..

[naqs]

I think that you will find that ihug has been brought out by vodafone.

anyway all ISP has to deal with telescum. I wouldn't go with them for all the tea in china.

True.... but I must say I never had nearly as many problems as telecom users have.

[naqs]

thats the puppy... thanks mate..

It pays to check out some other gallery building tools too... like http://gallery.menalto.com/ or http://coppermine-gallery.net/ They are both free :D

[tommykjensen]

It pays to check out some other gallery building tools too... like http://gallery.menalto.com/ or http://coppermine-gallery.net/ They are both free :D

But none beats Pekka's Exhibit Engine 2.

[::John::]

But none beats Pekka's Exhibit Engine 2.

That depends on the functionality you want and what situation you have chosen to use it. Also, it is not that good, in my opinion, to promote a product that still doesn't have a straight install mechanism - you have to install V1.5 first and then upgrade to V2. A lot of that is beyond the capabilities of a lot of people.

Most US based web sites come, these days, with the option to install and run several different versions of the Menalto Gallery software and, as it is a simple install, suits a lot of people.

If you are running a picture sharing site, eEngine still doesn't perform well in the multiple photographers/uploads area - it is still very single user.

[Nzshrimper]

nz hosting sites are bloody expensive..

and Tag must thank you for the much needed three points this morning.. ;)

next week we climb off the bottom and then the only way is up..

[tag141]

and Tag must thank you for the much needed three points this morning.. ;)

FFS. A couple of months ago we were looking at the premiership....now !!!:rolleyes: How to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

blooooooooooooooooooooooooooooobirds. D'ya think they'll hear from here.

[tim]

EE, Gallery, Coppermine, they're all heavyweight and a pain to set up. JAlbum is very simple, lightweight, static pages.

[Nzshrimper]

Just got back from the tigers at Orana Park.

[TKRFAN]

awwwe - that is one cute tiger - actually we were just wondering today if they still had tigers at Orana Park - we went there when I was a kid and the roaring at feeding time was pretty impressive :)

[akiwi]

Just got back from the tigers at Orana Park.
Sweeeet. Nice focus and quality there.

[Nzshrimper]

Cheers - Ive Been waiting ages to go out and see the tigers... (the only cat i like)

And these are new tigers to the park. they complete rebuilt the tiger park for him and his brother. These to are 3 years old and are just settling down to their new life.

[dgcorner]

Hi All! What's been happening? Just discharged from Middlemore Hospital where I was held hostage for 6 days... though I'm not sure if I will be sticking around since my temperature has become slightly elevated again after 24 hours straight of normal temps.

Did the do at Scott's go through?

[dgcorner]

Cheers - Ive Been waiting ages to go out and see the tigers... (the only cat i like)

And these are new tigers to the park. they complete rebuilt the tiger park for him and his brother. These to are 3 years old and are just settling down to their new life.

Very nice pics Chris!

Btw, have you gotten my PM re receipt for MSO2003?

Cheers!

John

[Nzshrimper]

Very nice pics Chris!

Btw, have you gotten my PM re receipt for MSO2003?

Cheers!

John

Thanks.

nope check your email... i sent it last night.. ;) so r u better or have you just escaped.

[akiwi]

OOh I just noticed. Page 900.
Does anyone here use Mozilla Thunderbird? If so I have a question about setting it up so I only get my mails on my PC, and my wife only gets her mails on her PC. Is that possible?

[Nzshrimper]

OOh I just noticed. Page 900.
Does anyone here use Mozilla Thunderbird? If so I have a question about setting it up so I only get my mails on my PC, and my wife only gets her mails on her PC. Is that possible?
if you have separate user names then yes - if you have alias account - two names on the same account afraid not.

[theflyingkiwi]

hey ho everyone. how was everyone weekend?

nice shots chris, that looks like a sweet backgound for the tigers. you got a couple of nice shots there.

another question, has anyone submitted a photo for the book yet?

[akiwi]

Hmm. I have an internet provider and they offer up to 50 e-mail addresses, so I have set up addresses for me and my wife.
I guess I need to look to see if I can create a separate login for my wife with the internet provider?

[Nzshrimper]

Hmm. I have an internet provider and they offer up to 50 e-mail addresses, so I have set up addresses for me and my wife.
I guess I need to look to see if I can create a separate login for my wife with the internet provider?
so when you set up the outlook account.. both emails address came through with the one login.. if so then yep new account for the wife .. get a Gmail account for her and have it forwarded to her outlook - or if you have a registered domain name you usually get a few emails to go with it .. and give her one of those.

[akiwi]

Bummer! Till now it hasn't been a problem as we have both used the same computer. Now we have one each it would be nice to only get the mails addressed to me on my machine or her on hers.

[tim]

No offense, but pretty average tiger pics. The 2nd is better because it's doing something.

[MattL]

Hey who wants one of those big popup light tent things for product photography?
PM me. Its going dirt cheap. I'm pretty lazy so pickup preferred.