GKPE: General Ramblings thread

[weka2000]

done a slight update to the front page

let me know what ya think

http://cuthbert.net.nz/

I like it. I still find the orange and purple are not my colours

[Nzshrimper]

Wow what a weekend... trucks drifting.. v8s drifting.. and of course the real drifters..

It was a long weekend thou and those guys can party.. (good job they don't have to drive in a straight line.. ;)

Had four pictures already on the D1NZ website.. ( and they were just a quick grab some and resize them ..

I now have to go through the 500 plus pic to choose the one i want.. :rolleyes:

Again thanks to the boys and girls at D1NZ and the South Island Drift Championship. ( and Warren ) .

Ill post some pics later..

[Wazza]

No worries Chris.

I just spent the most frustrating hour of my day...

Downloaded a new small Windows file for exif info..
First it said I had to have .NET 2.0 installed. Before that 22Mb file would load, my computer required to verify it's legit, and said I was unable to do any MS update.

That was checked, ok.
Next it said was unable to install the 22mb file, as a prerequisite for .NET 2.0 was Windows Installer 3.0 which wasn't ... installed.

So I had to go back to MS page - again it asked me to verify my PC!!

After verifying, this thing installed, only to click the button to finish, but automatically shut down my PC, after having several windows and files open, and Photoshop (good way to corrupt files).

Finally get back on, .NET installs, takes 15min+ and is finished.

Click to install PhotoInfoSetup.msi - said error, - must be running Windows SP 2, and then closed itself.

Why couldn't that warn me before. !!!

Anyone else know how to ADD exif to an image .

[theflyingkiwi]

I like it. I still find the orange and purple are not my colours

funny you say that. it's orange and blue. I know cause of the rgb vaules in photoshop and this web site

http://www.htmlhelp.com/cgi-bin/color.cgi

also the other funny part is that some people called the orange, yellow?

[weka2000]

Anyone else know how to ADD exif to an image .

Shoot in RAW :p

[dgcorner]

heres a quick one

Nice one Chris!

Aggghhhh....I can't believe it. After all my advice, and the killer deal I got him on a 400D (Wholesale!) my Dad went and bought a Sony DSLR! Sucked in by all the marketing gimicks!

My commiserations Scott! I guess all the marketing hype does pull some people in... It is why I guess they spend millions... Oh well, he will probably come around shortly.

Im nissed as a pewt!!!!!!!!!

??? Why?

done a slight update to the front page

let me know what ya think

http://cuthbert.net.nz/

The circle at the end isn't aligned. I use IE7. And it is orange and blue.

Btw, nice pics. I can't wait to be set right so I can go out and take pics... the bloody fever and inflamation came back! Oh well, at least what I have is not fatal:rolleyes:

[dgcorner]

Here's something that made me laugh... some of you may have seen this...: The Perfect Couple - http://www.flashfunpages.com/couple.swf

[theflyingkiwi]

John, that was funny.

Never thought about IE tho regarding the web page. I mean who uses IE these days?

:lol:

[akiwi]

done a slight update to the front page

let me know what ya think

http://cuthbert.net.nz/

I like it too, but also find the colours to be pretty in your face.


Btw, nice pics. I can't wait to be set right so I can go out and take pics... the bloody fever and inflamation came back! Oh well, at least what I have is not fatal:rolleyes:
That's a bummer, hope you manage to get rid of it soon.
Here's something that made me laugh... some of you may have seen this...: The Perfect Couple - http://www.flashfunpages.com/couple.swf
That's an oldie. Who has the time to make things like that?
Loads of snow here today, off to the mountains with the kids to walk up to a mountain hut, then do some tobogganning. Skiing is not really good at the moment & as it is the first weekend most areas are open, there will be loads of people.

[Moppie]

I was nissed as a pewt because of the beer, jagermiester and vodka I was drinking.
Now, I'm still a little hung over.

[Wazza]

JPEG always shoots in RAW too.

It was a stitch image, so it doesn't have the info for that reason. :)

Oh well, I chose a different landscape entry. Got a few entries in for the POTN book. Would like 1 in there, would be pretty cool, but competition seems tough.

[tag141]

Why couldn't that warn me before. !!!

Anyone else know how to ADD exif to an image .

Why didn't it warn you? Well, it has to scan your whole computer to check everything, do a lot of snooping, rechecking, phoning home etc. Then it tells you that you need something else...!!!

All that photo info tool does, as far as I can see, is let you add dates, keywords and other minor information, I don't think it lets you change the EXIF info. Have you looked at Exifpro (http://www.exifpro.com/)? It's free (ish) and very quick to load RAW files. Weka is a convert. I'm sure it lets you add info and keywording as well.

[momentz]

15min+ and is finished.

Click to install PhotoInfoSetup.msi - said error, - must be running Windows SP 2, and then closed itself.

Why couldn't that warn me before. !!!

You should SERIOUSLY install SP2. XPSP1 is so old now it's unsupported by M$, and you're vulnerable to a sheetload more virii and spyware attacks!

[Nzshrimper]

Sent an email to an online car mag re photos..

got this back..

<quote>
Hey Bud,
Do you have photos from the Sunday? Top 16 Battles? I had a photographer their on the Saturday.
I currently have no budget for purchasing photos. But would publish your photos if your are keen? All I can offer is a photo credit. I know thats pretty rude, but it is all can offer.


Regards
Ben
<quote>

Now thats not right, bloody cheeky if you ask me... I dont want $100 a shot. Just a little amount to help with the budget for the next road trip..

[weka2000]

Sent an email to an online car mag re photos..

got this back..

<quote>
Hey Bud,
Do you have photos from the Sunday? Top 16 Battles? I had a photographer their on the Saturday.
I currently have no budget for purchasing photos. But would publish your photos if your are keen? All I can offer is a photo credit. I know thats pretty rude, but it is all can offer.


Regards
Ben
<quote>

Now thats not right, bloody cheeky if you ask me... I dont want $100 a shot. Just a little amount to help with the budget for the next road trip..

Take it and be happy that you got published. You have nothing to gain but not putting your photos foward but you may gain if you do get them published and you name next to the pic.

However a Car Mag with no budget ? dosnt seem right.


I have photographed over 12 models for free but I got a portfolio and a bunch of contacts I would not have gotten otherwise

[MattL]

Sent an email to an online car mag re photos..

got this back..

<quote>
Hey Bud,
Do you have photos from the Sunday? Top 16 Battles? I had a photographer their on the Saturday.
I currently have no budget for purchasing photos. But would publish your photos if your are keen? All I can offer is a photo credit. I know thats pretty rude, but it is all can offer.


Regards
Ben
<quote>

Now thats not right, bloody cheeky if you ask me... I dont want $100 a shot. Just a little amount to help with the budget for the next road trip..

Dont take it and tell them why.

They are not going to make money off your hard work and pay you nothing.


Plain and simple, black and white.

[weka2000]

Why were you there in the first place pleaseure or business, who contact who about the photos you to them or them to you?

Black and white or throwing the baby out with the bath water.

2 boys woke up at xmas to a pile of hourse dung out side. The first boy said great a pile of horse dung the second boy smiles and said cool there must be a horse here somewhere.

So I stand by what I said the first tim. Sit on the photos and you get nothing. Give them away for free and your name gets out there and you dont know what doors will open. Ask wazza re his work for car mags.

[Nzshrimper]

Why were you there in the first place pleaseure or business, who contact who about the photos you to them or them to you?

Black and white or throwing the baby out with the bath water.

2 boys woke up at xmas to a pile of hourse dung out side. The first boy said great a pile of horse dung the second boy smiles and said cool there must be a horse here somewhere.

So I stand by what I said the first tim. Sit on the photos and you get nothing. Give them away for free and your name gets out there and you dont know what doors will open. Ask wazza re his work for car mags.

i get what your saying.. The people i was shooting for have photos.. they provided me hotel food etc... they are more than welcome to these pics.. other people can who make money by advertising on website to people who come to the website to see these pics - they can pay for them.. without the shots no one comes to their site .. then the advertiser go else where too..

[tag141]

OK, here's my http://tph1.orcon.net.nz/gif/2cents.gif

I would let them have low res images. Very low res images, about 600 wide and have a credit. Gets your name out there. I would also write a 500 word article about the weekend and email proper performance car magazines. The sort you can buy off the shelf in a newsagents. I would email magazines in NZ, Aus, Japan, UK and the US. Maybe 15 magazines. If one pays you great, if two pay brilliant etc if none pay, nothing ventured but your name is out there. If you get published you can get a media pass on your own right :D .

[Nzshrimper]

OK, here's my http://tph1.orcon.net.nz/gif/2cents.gif

I would let them have low res images. Very low res images, about 600 wide and have a credit. Gets your name out there. I would also write a 500 word article about the weekend and email proper performance car magazines. The sort you can buy off the shelf in a newsagents. I would email magazines in NZ, Aus, Japan, UK and the US. Maybe 15 magazines. If one pays you great, if two pay brilliant etc if none pay, nothing ventured but your name is out there. If you get published you can get a media pass on your own right :D .
I like that idea.... and they are my media passes ..... The issue i would have is that the low res shots would look poor and reflect badly on what i can do.. but with a link to the website with better shots, would change that..... :D

[tag141]

I like that idea.... and they are my media passes ..... The issue i would have is that the low res shots would look poor and reflect badly on what i can do.. but with a link to the website with better shots, would change that..... :D

The reason for the low res would be only to stop the right clickers. Maybe...medium res then ;) and the link.

[Nzshrimper]

One of these trucks... my god they are monsters... and they can drift...:D -

Tag is this the res to send them for free...

[weka2000]

wekas new studio get involved GKPE Den :lol:

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2617750#post2617750

[tag141]

Tag is this the res to send them for free...

Ummmm, don't know to be honest :rolleyes:. Still seems big for website use to me. Would they need one that big? It's down to you and what you feel you want them to have. How many do they want?

[Nzshrimper]

Ummmm, don't know to be honest :rolleyes:. Still seems big for website use to me. Would they need one that big? It's down to you and what you feel you want them to have. How many do they want?
sorry not that size just that res... i was thinking size wise of this

[theflyingkiwi]

wekas new studio get involved GKPE Den :lol:

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2617750#post2617750

good luck with that tony. I guess you are doing it all yourself.

so when does it open for use to the gkpe group? :lol:

[akiwi]

Hi Guys. Man that's a tough decision Chris. You could offer them 1 or 2 high res images & the rest low res. A tell them that you would like to be considered for upcoming shoots.

My image in the dpchallenge competition isn't going as well as I wanted.
I had 8 images in my short list to choose from & I think I chose the wrong one. I would have asked for advice here, but we are meant to remain anonomyous so I didn't as I would have had to post in G&N and I know a lot of members there are also here.

[tag141]

sorry not that size just that res... i was thinking size wise of this

That's about it as far as I can see. They don't need any bigger and if they try and upsize for inclusion elsewhere it won't come out too good.

[weka2000]

good luck with that tony. I guess you are doing it all yourself.

so when does it open for use to the gkpe group? :lol:


User pays, come do some work and then get some use....no weka free lunch :lol:

[theflyingkiwi]

User pays, come do some work and then get some use....no weka free lunch :lol:

Yep I am sure tell you what to do, I am a naturally good supervisor :)

[Sweedishcarrot01]

wekas new studio get involved GKPE Den :lol:

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2617750#post2617750

Nice one Tony, I am building my studio with a space about half that size, tis all I have for now, so pleased for you. Peace.

[Wazza]

Just returned from Roger Waters concert.

In a word: BRILLIANT!!!
(with a few exclamation points)

Met up with Moppie and Amanda also, who unfortunately were seated hundred metres. The place was chocka - very full, and an amazing performance, both sound, and pyrotechnics, and the FLYING PIG!!!!!

[Wazza]

Someone mention SP2?

When it first came out, I heard many people having issues, of programs no longer working - and then the saying came out, if it ain't broken, why...

I'll give it an upgrade anyway. ;)

[Nzshrimper]

posting of the drift...

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2618282#post2618282

[Moppie]

Rodger Waters was FANTASTIC!!!

AWSOME!!!!

ETC ETC ETC ETC!!!



Even spotted a 70-200 and what I think was a 300 2.8 up the front of the stage.

[Sweedishcarrot01]

Does anyone know of some used studio lights? They'd need to be able to shoot at f/16 through a softbox when 2-3m away from the subject.

[CliveyBoy]

SanDisk have just dropped their prices more in line with Kingson, Ultra II 4GB $144inc, Extreme III 4GB $191inc, 2GB of the same $77inc and $100inc.
Are you able to place an order for us, Pete?

[lil_miss]

Someone mention SP2?

When it first came out, I heard many people having issues, of programs no longer working - and then the saying came out, if it ain't broken, why...

I'll give it an upgrade anyway. ;)

Aaron can have a word to you about it if you want - he's the IT guru :D I've not noticed any issues with the service pack upgrade.. did however notice huge issues wth the VISTA upgrade.. EEK.. went back to XP after that lol

[weka2000]

Ah my last day living in Mangere :lol:
Off this afternoon to waterblast the garage while it is empty and allow it a change to dry before tommorow.

I have to re wire the whole house for internet that will be fun. May change my xtra paln to give me some more uplaod speed. What is everyone else on who has xtra.

Oh and I have decided I want to specialise boudoir photography. Studiox.co.nz is a good example of what I want to acheive. I love lingerie and low key but I have much to learn good thing is akiwi is now my mentor :lol: oir photography

[Moppie]

I jumped to SP2, and never had a problem, never even noticed the difference.

There is a lot of negative hype around windoz, and 99% of its just crap.
Its taken on a very mythical nature

[CliveyBoy]

Ah my last day living in Mangere :lol:
Best wishes for a clean move. Do you want any help carrying your lenses?:rolleyes:

[weka2000]

Best wishes for a clean move. Do you want any help carrying your lenses?:rolleyes:

Thats my job :)

[scotttnz]

Thats my job :)

You say that like one person is enough to carry all your lenses:p

[weka2000]

You say that like one person is enough to carry all your lenses:p

Thats what a backpak is for...Shame it wont hold everything :p

[Nzshrimper]

You say that like one person is enough to carry all your lenses:p
I think he hired a truck.. (just for the glass)..

[NordieBoy]

Someone mention SP2?

When it first came out, I heard many people having issues, of programs no longer working - and then the saying came out, if it ain't broken, why...

I'll give it an upgrade anyway. ;)

When it first came out there were lots of issues.
Now it's not a problem 99% of the time.

[momentz]

Someone mention SP2?

When it first came out, I heard many people having issues, of programs no longer working - and then the saying came out, if it ain't broken, why...

I'll give it an upgrade anyway. ;)

Yup, good idea. And btw - it is broken, very broken. SP2 won't fix it but it will help :cool:

[weka2000]

New website is live. Now I have to redo the photos from old to new and get rid of a few.

Thoughts and comments always welcome but may not be taken onboard :lol:
Oh I really need so help on the about page. Dont know what to say or how to say it

[Nzshrimper]

tony

i like the lay out..

you may want to change the page titles

in source code they read this...

<!-- CHANGE THE NEXT THREE LINES -->
<title>Photography Website Template</title>
<META name="Description" content="Place your website description in this area. This is read by some search engines.">
<META name="KeyWords" content="add, your, keywords and phrases in this area, separated, by, commas, this, is read by only a, few search, engines">
<!-- CHANGE THE ABOVE THREE LINES -->

the bit with Photography Website Template - should read something else.. (its the title on the tabs).

also add a few key words to the pages... it all helps with search engines etc..

[::John::]

New website is live. Now I have to redo the photos from old to new and get rid of a few.

Thoughts and comments always welcome but may not be taken onboard :lol:
Oh I really need so help on the about page. Dont know what to say or how to say it

You might want to remove the "Photography Website Template" title that appears at the top of every page - or, there again, you might not :rolleyes:.

[Nzshrimper]

You might want to remove the "Photography Website Template" title that appears at the top of every page - or, there again, you might not :rolleyes:.
<crash>

[::John::]

<crash>

Yeah, sorry about that - I was typing while you posted...

[lil_miss]

I think you should make sure your galleries and everything are populated before you make it live.. Its the key part of your site....

Also your About Me :

Perhaps the first paragraph should read: "Welcome to my website. My name is Tony Searle. I am 40 years old, married with 2 daughters."

Just a bit of punctuation correction :) And if possible add a bigger gap between your picture and the text :)
Maybe you could also add something in there about you being based in Auckland, and what type of photography you're interested in.

Otherwise it looks good

[theflyingkiwi]

yep, I 2nd that. also make sure you got no dead links. if you are not going to have all you gallerys live, then don't have links to them until you do.

[weka2000]

Yes Miss...... umm just thought of another comment but will refrain :lol:

Changed the name in the page tab now just need to update

[akiwi]

Does anyone know of some used studio lights? They'd need to be able to shoot at f/16 through a softbox when 2-3m away from the subject.

Used studio lights are sometimes selling for more than the new ones here in Germany there is such a demand.

I have Elinchroms & am very happy with them.

Ah my last day living in Mangere :lol:
Off this afternoon to waterblast the garage while it is empty and allow it a change to dry before tommorow.

I have to re wire the whole house for internet that will be fun. May change my xtra paln to give me some more uplaod speed. What is everyone else on who has xtra.

Oh and I have decided I want to specialise boudoir photography. Studiox.co.nz is a good example of what I want to acheive. I love lingerie and low key but I have much to learn good thing is akiwi is now my mentor :lol: oir photography

What is oir photography ?? I'll do it.
Good luck on the move, and I look foreward to seeing some results from the new studio. Man a space like that at home would be great.

yep, I 2nd that. also make sure you got no dead links. if you are not going to have all you gallerys live, then don't have links to them until you do.

Agreed.
Looks good. The photos loaded faster today. I would also change the gallery thumbnails to your images. But I guess that is one of the many small things you still need to do.

[weka2000]

Akiwi it should have read boudior photoraphy. A cut and paste gone wrong.
Oh check gallery 2 with emma in french maids outfit.

The studio space was a must when we brought.

You and I will be having a teaching session soon :lol: you will be teaching me about lighting. Esp rim, side etc.

[MattL]

Ah my last day living in Mangere :lol:
Off this afternoon to waterblast the garage while it is empty and allow it a change to dry before tommorow.

I have to re wire the whole house for internet that will be fun. May change my xtra paln to give me some more uplaod speed. What is everyone else on who has xtra.

Oh and I have decided I want to specialise boudoir photography. Studiox.co.nz is a good example of what I want to acheive. I love lingerie and low key but I have much to learn good thing is akiwi is now my mentor :lol: oir photography
one of my mates is a professional data cable guy - I can pass you his details if you dont want to DIY that.

[tag141]

one of my mates is a professional data cable guy - I can pass you his details if you dont want to DIY that.

Wireless router with usb hub and printer port (that's what I have) and you'll never need a wire again. Or wait a little longer for wireless USB to get established.

[jasestu]

Argh, dilemma. Some of my Comet McNaught photos have gotten a lot of attention and I've had a few enquiries from people who would like to buy prints. How on earth do I work out what to charge? I'm certainly no pro, but the shots are pretty tidy, and are of a once(ish) in a lifetime event. Anyone got any suggestions of what this sort of thing could go for in the local market, and what sort of print options I should offer people? Or even how I actually go about doing the sale - several of these enquiries have come from overseas.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/jasestu/POTN/McNaught2_0005_filtered_g_rs_2.jpg

I even need to work on my PP skills, I'm sure the pics would polish up even better if I knew what I was doing on that front...

Oh well, any thoughts are appreciated, thanks,
Jason.

[weka2000]

Wireless router with usb hub and printer port (that's what I have) and you'll never need a wire again. Or wait a little longer for wireless USB to get established.

Thanks Mattl I got someone lined up and I love wieing myself, just need to get a long drill bit :lol:

I love my cables. So no wireless anyway no money now :confused:

I did the king of that Mountain once when I lived in Kawarau hell of a run up but comming down is a blast

[weka2000]

Argh, dilemma. Some of my Comet McNaught photos have gotten a lot of attention and I've had a few enquiries from people who would like to buy prints. How on earth do I work out what to charge? I'm certainly no pro, but the shots are pretty tidy, and are of a once(ish) in a lifetime event. Anyone got any suggestions of what this sort of thing could go for in the local market, and what sort of print options I should offer people? Or even how I actually go about doing the sale - several of these enquiries have come from overseas.



I even need to work on my PP skills, I'm sure the pics would polish up even better if I knew what I was doing on that front...

Oh well, any thoughts are appreciated, thanks,
Jason.

Well when you work out a price let me know as the other one I would buy.
Landscape one you first posted.
Momentz also have 1 I would buy as well.

I should have gotten off my a$$ but alas I didnt

[Moppie]

Thanks Mattl I got someone lined up and I love wieing myself,


Ummmmm.............. :p

[weka2000]

Ummmmm.............. :p

No I wont be using a hammer to put a hole in the wall :rolleyes:

Just got to work out where to put my router, linux ipcop box, network switch. I have a heap of room under the house so may build a unit. It will be strange the master bedroom not humming with all my computer gear and flashing LCD lights.

[Moppie]

No I wont be using a hammer to put a hole in the wall :rolleyes:




I don't think peeing on it will work either. :rolleyes:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[weka2000]

I don't think peeing on it will work either. :rolleyes:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

How did you come up with that :lol:

[lil_miss]

Well when you work out a price let me know as the other one I would buy.
Landscape one you first posted.
Momentz also have 1 I would buy as well.

I should have gotten off my a$$ but alas I didnt

If you're serious make an offer :) What size would you want?

Jason - whereabouts have you had it to get offers of buying it ?

[akiwi]

Akiwi it should have read boudior photoraphy. A cut and paste gone wrong.
Oh check gallery 2 with emma in french maids outfit.

The studio space was a must when we brought.

You and I will be having a teaching session soon :lol: you will be teaching me about lighting. Esp rim, side etc.

I will do my best. I do not profess to being an expert & actually have little or no boudour experience, but I can see what I like & can read lights now I have a bit of experience of my own.

[weka2000]

I will do my best. I do not profess to being an expert & actually have little or no boudour experience, but I can see what I like & can read lights now I have a bit of experience of my own.

Yes I have 6000 photos samples and lowkey is my choice. Im learning to read lights. I priced up a strip light the other day $1500 NZ apix.co.nz I may use bookends and bounce the light.

I love the rim light effect and side light. I have heaps to learn but now I know what I want to do and thats the best bit as I can focus.
What sort of props do you have for your studio?

Im not ready for nudes yet. I need to get my lighting right first. Mind you outdoor nudes I would have a go at now. Just waiting for Rob Benson to pass a few my way http://rbenson.deviantart.com/gallery/
he live just across the water from me.

[Sweedishcarrot01]

Do you use photoshop? Who do you use for your prints? Would you mount them yourself? How much profit do you want to make from your prints? Beautiful capture btw!

Argh, dilemma. Some of my Comet McNaught photos have gotten a lot of attention and I've had a few enquiries from people who would like to buy prints. How on earth do I work out what to charge? I'm certainly no pro, but the shots are pretty tidy, and are of a once(ish) in a lifetime event. Anyone got any suggestions of what this sort of thing could go for in the local market, and what sort of print options I should offer people? Or even how I actually go about doing the sale - several of these enquiries have come from overseas.


I even need to work on my PP skills, I'm sure the pics would polish up even better if I knew what I was doing on that front...

Oh well, any thoughts are appreciated, thanks,
Jason.

[akiwi]

Yes I have 6000 photos samples and lowkey is my choice. Im learning to read lights. I priced up a strip light the other day $1500 NZ apix.co.nz I may use bookends and bounce the light.

I love the rim light effect and side light. I have heaps to learn but now I know what I want to do and thats the best bit as I can focus.
What sort of props do you have for your studio?

Im not ready for nudes yet. I need to get my lighting right first. Mind you outdoor nudes I would have a go at now. Just waiting for Rob Benson to pass a few my way http://rbenson.deviantart.com/gallery/
he live just across the water from me.
That is waaay too expensive You haven't told me hat studio lights you have.

I did an exclusive lowkey landscape session on friday. I'll send you some images.
I can't see his images as they are nude. Might need to create an account.

[weka2000]

That is waaay too expensive You haven't told me hat studio lights you have.

I did an exclusive lowkey landscape session on friday. I'll send you some images.
I can't see his images as they are nude. Might need to create an account.

I have 3 of these
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Camera-accessories/Flashes-lighting/auction-86039141.htm

Robs website
rbphotography.co.nz

[Sweedishcarrot01]

Tony, when shooting at f/16 with a softbox and say ISO 400 - how close do the lights need to be to the image? Do you use a flash-meter?

[QUOTE=weka2000;2624313]I have 3 of these

[theflyingkiwi]

Tony, how's it going with that tablet?

[weka2000]

Tony, when shooting at f/16 with a softbox and say ISO 400 - how close do the lights need to be to the image? Do you use a flash-meter?

[quote=weka2000;2624313]I have 3 of these

I always shoot at ISO100 My main soft box is about 4-5ft from model.
I have a flash meter but never use it. I should learn to.

[Moppie]

How did you come up with that :lol:

your spelling, its worse than mine! :lol: :lol:

[weka2000]

Tony, how's it going with that tablet?

In a box at moment. I found it great its a keeper. I need to have 1 Computer for all my photography work. I use laptop a lot

[theflyingkiwi]

In a box at moment. I found it great its a keeper. I need to have 1 Computer for all my photography work. I use laptop a lot

so when ya going out getting a mac? :lol:

[weka2000]

so when ya going out getting a mac? :lol:

Had dinner, thanks for asking :p

[akiwi]

I have 3 of these
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Camera-accessories/Flashes-lighting/auction-86039141.htm

Robs website
rbphotography.co.nz


Ok.. they look pretty simple. Do you know if their fittings are compatible to any other major brands?

Tony, when shooting at f/16 with a softbox and say ISO 400 - how close do the lights need to be to the image? Do you use a flash-meter?


I'm not weka.
Firstly why would you use F16 at iso 400. You must be really fighting for a good depth of field.
The answer of course depends on the power of your lights. I don't think I have shot at F16, but I did a shoot on Friday with F13. It was a lowkey so the light was also pretty low. I had the lights anout 1 M from the subject.
If you can move your lights closer to your subject you have a HUGE range of light strenghts. There is a rule called the inverse square law. This sais Double the distance = 1/4 the light. So in the other direction , 1/2 the distance = 4X the light. Getting the lights close will give you more light than a powerfull flash system.
I personally don't use a flash meter as I can't afford one at the moment. Using your histogram & a few tweaks of your lights & aperture you can get pretty good results.

[jasestu]

If you're serious make an offer :) What size would you want?

Jason - whereabouts have you had it to get offers of buying it ?

I posted one one spaceweather.com, and have had about 7 emails asking for prints from there. Then there's the people from the local area who saw it in the paper and have contacted me as well. Really wish I was more organised and had a planned approach for this from day one. :)

[Sweedishcarrot01]

I always shoot at ISO100 My main soft box is about 4-5ft from model.
I have a flash meter but never use it. I should learn to.

Thanks Tony, 4-5ft at what f stop?

[akiwi]

Hi Jason. Have a look at DPC Prints (http://www.dpcprints.com). These are photos available as prints from photographers on DP challenge. The prices vary depending on the image size.
Remember if you do prints, you need to charge for the printing and the postage.
I have no Idea of prices, have the same problem myself at the moment. Be sure to let us know what you decide. Remember you have a very good and unique image that other people want. Use that.

[Sweedishcarrot01]

Thanks Peter. Yes f16 for a good depth of field. Yes it depends on the power of your ligths, thats why I asked 'Weka' because I was curious to see what performance he gets from his lights cause they seem a good price. Generally 150w/s lights wouldn't perform well at f16 (exp with a softbox), hence the iso 400 and the distance question (double distance, 1/4 light), however, some brands do seem to perform extraordinary well.
But thanks for your feedback anyways...

Ok.. they look pretty simple. Do you know if their fittings are compatible to any other major brands?


I'm not weka.
Firstly why would you use F16 at iso 400. You must be really fighting for a good depth of field.
The answer of course depends on the power of your lights. I don't think I have shot at F16, but I did a shoot on Friday with F13. It was a lowkey so the light was also pretty low. I had the lights anout 1 M from the subject.
If you can move your lights closer to your subject you have a HUGE range of light strenghts. There is a rule called the inverse square law. This sais Double the distance = 1/4 the light. So in the other direction , 1/2 the distance = 4X the light. Getting the lights close will give you more light than a powerfull flash system.
I personally don't use a flash meter as I can't afford one at the moment. Using your histogram & a few tweaks of your lights & aperture you can get pretty good results.

[weka2000]

Thanks Tony, 4-5ft at what f stop?
F8-f11

[weka2000]

Ok.. they look pretty simple. Do you know if their fittings are compatible to any other major brands?



Yes but I have to take out the revits that have the holder bits on them. I have 2 softboxes, snoots, beauty dish, umbrellas, honeycombs, gels and boom arm

I sold 2x550ex flashes and 1 St-E2 to get the studio lights. They get very warm and have no fan but the are 90% relable. 75w modeling light that is not variable.

[theflyingkiwi]

I posted one one spaceweather.com, and have had about 7 emails asking for prints from there. Then there's the people from the local area who saw it in the paper and have contacted me as well. Really wish I was more organised and had a planned approach for this from day one. :)

let us know what you sold them at. I would be interested to know price for size.

[scotttnz]

Wow.....where is everybody today?

Any easties interested in a shoot tonight? Sunset/comet/whatever?

[lil_miss]

Whereabouts? :)

[Moppie]

Hmmm, very tempting Scott, but Lost is back on :D

[scotttnz]

"Lost" - they call it that because thats what happens to the viewers!

Heading up to point view. Leaving soon.

[Moppie]

Its kinda sad really, a beautiful evening like this, and Im going to sit inside and watch TV.
But, I have another excuse, Amanda needs some company :)

[tag141]

Its kinda sad really, a beautiful evening like this, and Im going to sit inside and watch TV.
But, I have another excuse, Amanda needs some company :)

Set the video and then you two go out to enjoy the beautiful evening.

[Nzshrimper]

so every one is watching lost them...

[momentz]

so every one is watching lost them...

Not us.. missed the first season.. need to catch up on it first

[theflyingkiwi]

so every one is watching lost them...

I wouldn't watch lost for all the tea in china.

however heroes, studio 60 (not seen on NZ TV) and prison break, yes :)

did you see that top gear has started?

[tag141]

Not me, trying to attempt a new website. Not going particularly well.

I wrote the pilot for 'Lost'

Person 1: "Where are we?"
Person 2: "I dunno"

It's amazing how long they stretch those lines out for.

[Nzshrimper]

Person 1: "Where are we?"
Person 2: "I dunno"

thats my wife talking to the map whilst navigating.. (and yes she answers herself too..

[Nzshrimper]

I wouldn't watch lost for all the tea in china.

however heroes, studio 60 (not seen on NZ TV) and prison break, yes :)

did you see that top gear has started?

heros is good.. prision break - hmm yep ok ish..

and yep i did see that TG id back on.. hamester crash looked good..

[tag141]

and yep i did see that TG id back on.. hamester crash looked good..

I hope there are a lot of people eating a big slice of humble pie. Those that stated Hammond shouldn't be in a dragster and trying to break the speed record. He isn't competent etc. It was a tyre blow out. Even the best driver couldn't handle that.

I also liked Ckarksons intro. "There was a time I thought I' was never going to be able to say this but here he is....Richard Hammond"

[lil_miss]

Whats TV? Ive seen hardly any of it in the last week - busy taking and editing photos from a 3 day indian wedding :D

[theflyingkiwi]

heros is good.. prision break - hmm yep ok ish..

and yep i did see that TG id back on.. hamester crash looked good..

heroes is great, I like the way they move the story along. I recommend everyone to watch it.

that crash was cool to watch.

[akiwi]

thats my wife talking to the map whilst navigating.. (and yes she answers herself too..

LOL. I have a similar navigation system ... Make Wife... model Caroline.

Whats TV? Ive seen hardly any of it in the last week - busy taking and editing photos from a 3 day indian wedding :D

I hardly have time to watch TV since I have got into photography.
Spent a frustrating 3 hours trying to upload photos to a stock site last night. Kept me up till 1, & this morning I get the message that many of the uploaded images are corrupt.
Not to worry, it's worth it in the long run. Made about $6500.00 US since I started uploading to stock sites.

How many pictures are you guys taking???
I clicked me 40,000 th picture on my 350D on Friday. Would love to post it but it's NWS. I bought the camera in March 2005.

[Moppie]

Set the video and then you two go out to enjoy the beautiful evening.


Havn't got on, bought a camera instead :)

[akiwi]

Thanks Peter. Yes f16 for a good depth of field. Yes it depends on the power of your ligths, thats why I asked 'Weka' because I was curious to see what performance he gets from his lights cause they seem a good price. Generally 150w/s lights wouldn't perform well at f16 (exp with a softbox), hence the iso 400 and the distance question (double distance, 1/4 light), however, some brands do seem to perform extraordinary well.
But thanks for your feedback anyways...
I would realy recommend saving your money and getting something a little better than these. If you buy cheap you'll buy twice. (Sorry Tony)
What do you want to use them for? If you want to photograph people, then start with 1 light. Get a good one with adjustable levels & importantly an adjustable moddeling light. Preferabls a bright moddeling light. I would say a minimum of between 200-400 WS.
Get a brand where you can easily get light modifyers, otherwise you are going to have to throw out your lights at some stage to get compatible ones or pay a premium proce for special modifyers, or have to start modifying them yourself.

For portrait & learning 1 light and a couple of reflectors is all you need.
My Session on Friday was shot with 1 light, and in the DPChallenge competition I am right up with the winners at the moment.

[Sweedishcarrot01]

Thanks buddy, nice of you to share your knowledge, will go with your advice...

I would realy recommend saving your money and getting something a little better than these. If you buy cheap you'll buy twice. (Sorry Tony)
What do you want to use them for? If you want to photograph people, then start with 1 light. Get a good one with adjustable levels & importantly an adjustable moddeling light. Preferabls a bright moddeling light. I would say a minimum of between 200-400 WS.
Get a brand where you can easily get light modifyers, otherwise you are going to have to throw out your lights at some stage to get compatible ones or pay a premium proce for special modifyers, or have to start modifying them yourself.

For portrait & learning 1 light and a couple of reflectors is all you need.
My Session on Friday was shot with 1 light, and in the DPChallenge competition I am right up with the winners at the moment.

[tim]

I have AB800s from www.alienbees.com , which are 320w/s, for groups i'd like more power - 3200 or so. For one or two people it's fine.

[joeseph]

Tony was murmering about replacing his lighting setup - keep yer ear to the ground and you might pick up his old ones...

[akiwi]

I have Elinchrom D-Lite 4's = 400 WS.
I don't use full power much, but it's there if I need it.
I got a set from a shop in Austria.. sorry not much help for NZ. Try to see what is available in NZ & importantly what can be serviced without sending it 1/2 way around the world.

[scotttnz]

Well I had a nice night out last night, but didn't get any post worthy images. I am really out of practice. It took a long time to "see" anything to photograph. Must get out more!

Decided I need a new tripod too. Mine is a POS.

[tag141]

more power

You must be Tim 'The Toolman' Taylor....ok, Wild.

[Sweedishcarrot01]

Tony was murmering about replacing his lighting setup - keep yer ear to the ground and you might pick up his old ones...

Thanks Joseph, but I might get something with a little more power...

I have Elinchrom D-Lite 4's = 400 WS.
I don't use full power much, but it's there if I need it.
I got a set from a shop in Austria.. sorry not much help for NZ. Try to see what is available in NZ & importantly what can be serviced without sending it 1/2 way around the world.

Yeah, don't really want to be waiting 6-8 weeks for shipping huh, definitely on the hunt, I have a few people looking out for used lights for me.

I have AB800s from www.alienbees.com , which are 320w/s, for groups i'd like more power - 3200 or so. For one or two people it's fine.

Thanks Tim

[Moppie]

Decided I need a new tripod too. Mine is a POS.


Head into Apix, possibly the best range of different tripods in Auckland :)



Re: lights, Pete has some really, really good ones.
I can't remember what brand they are, but I don't think they were all that expensive, but they are very good.
We were able to shoot quite large family groups (8+ people) with very low power settings.

[weka2000]

Well we are in....just

The guy who brought our house didnt settle yesterday :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
So now we have to wait till 9th Feb to find out if it goes through. So now we have 2 homes and 4 mortgages and cant pay for it :o

[Wazza]

Might have to sell your 5D off cheap.

I see they're going for about $1500 2nd hand ;)


Seriously though, things will come together. I've always thought the end of the world, but I'm still here, still haven't been made bankrupt.. :p

[weka2000]

Im looking for the silver lining but the day was SOOOOOOOOOOOO stressful

[joeseph]

Well we are in....just

The guy who brought our house didnt settle yesterday :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
So now we have to wait till 9th Feb to find out if it goes through. So now we have 2 homes and 4 mortgages and cant pay for it :o
Ouch - haven't had it happen but can imagine the worry....
Presume they haven't moved in? (i.e. don't let go of the keys!)

[weka2000]

Ouch - haven't had it happen but can imagine the worry....
Presume they haven't moved in? (i.e. don't let go of the keys!)

No we have keys still and the mortgage :evil:

It was meant to be a happy day but turned very sour and we wondered what to do.

[Moppie]

No we have keys still and the mortgage :evil:

It was meant to be a happy day but turned very sour and we wondered what to do.

Damn, I couldn't handle having to pay two mortgages!

Is there going to be a resolution?
Otherwise you might have to get into the rental bussiness very quickly.

[scotttnz]

Why did they not settle? Did they give a reason?

From memory most real estate contracts have a clause in them that means that they have to pay penalty interest if they do not settle an the agreed date. It is usually a pretty high interest rate too. It would be worth checking your contract for this, and talking to your solicitor about it. Might help pay that second mortgage.

[weka2000]

No reason 12%

[dgcorner]

Sorry to hear about that Tony. It will work out in the end. Cheers!

[scotttnz]

No reason 12%

I hope it comes through for you Tony!

[Nzshrimper]

Just had some reporter on the phone wanting photos of the driftin.. she is an Auckland based reporter.. she wants a couple of shots of the round winner... nice.

[tag141]

Just had some reporter on the phone wanting photos of the driftin.. she is an Auckland based reporter.. she wants a couple of shots of the round winner... nice.

$$$$ ?

[Nzshrimper]

$$$$ ?



negotiations are on the table... ;) i am also speaking to the team sponsors of the cars they want shots of... i have better angles if you know what i mean..

[Moppie]

$$$$ ?




ditto, how much are they paying?


I understand drifting is a new sport, and needs a little help, but they also need to realise that they can't rely on free hand outs for ever.

[forsaken]

ditto, how much are they paying?


I understand drifting is a new sport, and needs a little help, but they also need to realise that they can't rely on free hand outs for ever.


true that. Hopefully one day D1NZ will realise that to

[Nzshrimper]

true that. Hopefully one day D1NZ will realise that to
they are getting there... sloowly...

[weka2000]

I hope it comes through for you Tony!

It will. Yippie im connected. Re wired the phone so it ran under house, servers backup and so is network. Now to run some cat5e.

PM if you want my new landline

[joeseph]

It will. Yippie im connected. Re wired the phone so it ran under house, servers backup and so is network. Now to run some cat5e.

PM if you want my new landline
or we could just use www.whitepages.co.nz and get your street address too... ;)
[surprise! Telecom actually updates their database!]

[tag141]

they are getting there... sloowly...

Wasn't trying to find out how much, just if they were.

[weka2000]

or we could just use www.whitepages.co.nz (http://www.whitepages.co.nz) and get your street address too... ;)
[surprise! Telecom actually updates their database!]

So are you going to ring :rolleyes:

[Nzshrimper]

Wasn't trying to find out how much, just if they were.
no worries dude.. there are 5 other events this year... that these boys are running.. I would like to cover them all so if i can get enough money to cover expenses for each event then i am all happy..

I am asking for $15 a shot for the first 5 then $10 each there after. (thats the ones they want to use)

need about $200 - $300 each event to cover costs..

[theflyingkiwi]

So are you going to ring :rolleyes:

why are you feeling lonely :p :confused:

[naqs]

no worries dude.. there are 5 other events this year... that these boys are running.. I would like to cover them all so if i can get enough money to cover expenses for each event then i am all happy..

I am asking for $15 a shot for the first 5 then $10 each there after. need about $200 - $300 each event..

Are you head photographer for the D1NZ? ???

[Moppie]

Are you head photographer for the D1NZ? ???


Don't think they have one yet, so far Chris, Warren, Kirst and Simon have managed to make some contacts, and do some very good photography for them though.


I can't believe I called drifting a sport earlier :o

[Nzshrimper]

Are you head photographer for the D1NZ? ???
erm nope.. the south island champs want a photog to cover them full time.. so i am putting my hand up for that.

the D1NZ boys need to get a more complete coverage of the events .. they have sponsors - sponsors want exposer.. etc.. more exposer by photogs the better the sponsors are.. The glossy mags want pics - papers want pics - sponsors want pics - and teenage boys want posters.

They are now in there fifth year so the time is now... its a big market..

[theflyingkiwi]

Don't think they have one yet, so far Chris, Warren, Kirst and Simon have managed to make some contacts, and do some very good photography for them though.


I can't believe I called drifting a sport earlier :o

wash your mouth out. don't say things like that again. :lol:

[Wazza]

$15 a shot?

What's that? A digital file or an actual print?

You should be marking up your rates about 4-5 times cost price.

Mags will only pay $15-30 per shot however, and most the time, will have it covered, especially D1NZ.

For posters etc, a single shot realistically should be $100-500 depending on the branch, and number of copies etc.

As for D1NZ head photog, they once called me that, and kept asking me to cover this and that, such as D2NZ, and have often referred my own images into publication around the place, however towards the end of the year, I kept declining, as was too busy, so Simon managed to get the contacts. I bet they'll be favouring him this year for always willing to do it. :)
They still have my photo link on left side of page, and website link and image on the right side, again, what they said because mid year I was their "official", even though there's several unpaid hobbyists all snapping away.

[TKRFAN]

Hi All

Have the results of my first time on track as a 'media' photographer at Manfeild on the weekend up on www.tkrfan.com now :) I haven't posted any pics in the motorsport forum as I am too knackered lol.

Hope you get your house woes sorted Tony :(

Great to see you getting some sales from the drifting Chris - well done :D

[Nzshrimper]

$15 a shot?

What's that? A digital file or an actual print?

You should be marking up your rates about 4-5 times cost price.

Mags will only pay $15-30 per shot however, and most the time, will have it covered, especially D1NZ.

For posters etc, a single shot realistically should be $100-500 depending on the branch, and number of copies etc.

As for D1NZ head photog, they once called me that, and kept asking me to cover this and that, such as D2NZ, and have often referred my own images into publication around the place, however towards the end of the year, I kept declining, as was too busy, so Simon managed to get the contacts. I bet they'll be favouring him this year for always willing to do it. :)
They still have my photo link on left side of page, and website link and image on the right side, again, what they said because mid year I was their "official", even though there's several unpaid hobbyists all snapping away.

$15 was just a low res digi file.. anything else is priced on request...
anything like promo work will be charged at a much higher rate. As for the D1 boys they have 8 free low res shots (hotel room etc) and i know they want more for promo work and mags etc.. I was the only person taking pics (except for the first practise session where there 3 track photogs)

Hey anything i make is only going back into the camera anyways. (i need that longer lens and will cover travel to other events)

[weka2000]

why are you feeling lonely :p :confused:

yes :lol: when you comming over I have a heap of jobs to be done

[joeseph]

Go Theresa! & soon too... ;-)

[MattL]

Go Theresa! & soon too... ;-)

Wohoo! Thats what you get. heh.

[akiwi]

Couldn't access GPKE at all today. Every time I tried to enter it windows explorer hang completely. Works ok here at home with firefox.

Tony, sorry to hear about your problems. Hope it works out ok fast.

[weka2000]

Couldn't access GPKE at all today. Every time I tried to enter it windows explorer hang completely. Works ok here at home with firefox.

Tony, sorry to hear about your problems. Hope it works out ok fast.

May work out to our advantage. We may have a backup buyer already.

[Nzshrimper]

May work out to our advantage. We may have a backup buyer already.
thats was lucky (or good planning).

[Moppie]

May work out to our advantage. We may have a backup buyer already.


I hope the back up works out.
And make sure you collect the interest, at the very least it will help off set the extra cost :)

So, when do you want us to come around and start knocking holes in the studio walls?

[weka2000]

I hope the back up works out.
And make sure you collect the interest, at the very least it will help off set the extra cost :)

So, when do you want us to come around and start knocking holes in the studio walls?

all welcome to come over for coffee and have look see. Im home all weekend