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Cadwell
31st of January 2006 (Tue), 14:55
Some action from the recent national league division 1 event at Coventry swimming pool.

#1 Pardon me, your canoe is in my chest...
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/ukmotorsportpics/cpnatopen/LJ8J3159.jpg

#2
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/ukmotorsportpics/cpnatopen/LJ8J3470.jpg

#3 "It's behind you"
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/ukmotorsportpics/cpnatopen/LJ8J3526.jpg

#4 That'd be a foul...
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/ukmotorsportpics/cpnatopen/LJ8J3638.jpg

#5 "My ball", "No, my ball"
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/ukmotorsportpics/cpnatopen/LJ8J3657.jpg

#6 There are two canoes there, honest!
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/ukmotorsportpics/cpnatopen/LJ8J3726.jpg

There's nothing like going for a quiet paddle on Saturday evening ;)

Full gallery is here http://canoepolo.sportpicsuk.com/c843722.html, thanks for looking :)

Dave_G
31st of January 2006 (Tue), 15:08
good stuff, the action looks fairly hardcore there

which lens, Glenn?

Cadwell
31st of January 2006 (Tue), 15:16
Good question... I was swapping about a fair bit that night, 50mm f/1.4, Sigma 120-300mm f/2.8 and 85mm f/1.8 all got used but it seems from the EXIF that all of these were with the 135mm f/2.0L.

chrishunt
31st of January 2006 (Tue), 16:09
Wow. A very aggressive sport. #4 is a good example of how not to navigate a canoe.

Brands
31st of January 2006 (Tue), 17:15
Having seen canoe polo firsthand at this meeting, I was surprised how much contact there was between canoes and also amongst the players.
Having said that it also seemed to be played in the right spirit, hard but fair...and none of the cheating/gamesmanship that infects our national "sport" at its top level.


Nice shots Glenn:cool:

BIGTUFFGUY
31st of January 2006 (Tue), 23:48
really nice and crisp, great work

Simon Harrison
1st of February 2006 (Wed), 16:08
Nice to see something a bit different Glenn. How do you meter and control your WB at these events?

Cheers,

Simon.

Incomplete Pete
1st of February 2006 (Wed), 16:27
Nice shots, although in the future I recommend you set your custom white balance to remove the orange tone to 'em *nods*

Cadwell
1st of February 2006 (Wed), 17:00
Thanks for the response, Pete. Actually, the white balance is set precisely where I want it for the look of these shots.

Cadwell
1st of February 2006 (Wed), 17:03
Nice to see something a bit different Glenn. How do you meter and control your WB at these events?

Cheers,

Simon.


Thanks Simon. I used a good old fashioned light meter and set the camera on manual for the exposure. Colour temperature was determined using a colour meter.

Don't worry, I'm back to the cars this weekend ;)

Dave_G
1st of February 2006 (Wed), 19:04
I need to find out how light and colour meters work.

great stuff Glenn, I think 4 is the pick of the crop for me

cars...at this time of year...you're obviously suffering. my sympathies mate.

hehehe

nevets2001uk
2nd of February 2006 (Thu), 02:54
Great work Glenn. All very nice shots. I agree with Dave, No. 4 is my favourite of the bunch.

Thanks for sharing,
Steve

Simon Harrison
2nd of February 2006 (Thu), 02:56
Thanks Simon. I used a good old fashioned light meter and set the camera on manual for the exposure. Colour temperature was determined using a colour meter.

Don't worry, I'm back to the cars this weekend ;)

Just got myself a lightmeter that I'm going to have a play with this weekend on the Riponian Rally. Still stuck with a grey card for WB though.

Cheers,

Simon.

Cadwell
2nd of February 2006 (Thu), 04:33
Just got myself a lightmeter that I'm going to have a play with this weekend on the Riponian Rally. Still stuck with a grey card for WB though.

Cheers,

Simon.

I went with the light meter on this one because the camera’s internal metering just wasn’t delivering. All the intense reflections on the disturbed water surface were causing it to under-expose badly. With this kind of shot you just have to accept those highlights blowing out a bit if you want to preserve any detail in the subject and they’re blown to the naked eye anyway. Rather than push the exposure and guess at the correct values I decided to use a meter.

The white balance issue is more interesting. It’s easy enough to make white = white, a couple of mouse clicks in post processing will do it, but that’s not what I was going for here. The lighting in the pool was very yellow/orange and I wanted to retain some of that to get the feel of the event right (I’m after realism not photoshop accuracy). So whilst I have corrected for most of it, I’ve left a slight yellow tint to the pictures and resisted making white = pure white.

Cadwell
2nd of February 2006 (Thu), 04:35
Thanks Dave and Steve :) I liked #4 too, I am not sure Alan did though!

Dave, I am wandering down to Goodwood on Saturday, there are some rally stages being run on the circuit. Just small scale stuff but it's an opportunity to get my eye back in and stop the 500mm from seizing up ;)

Simon Harrison
2nd of February 2006 (Thu), 12:18
I went with the light meter on this one because the camera’s internal metering just wasn’t delivering. All the intense reflections on the disturbed water surface were causing it to under-expose badly. With this kind of shot you just have to accept those highlights blowing out a bit if you want to preserve any detail in the subject and they’re blown to the naked eye anyway. Rather than push the exposure and guess at the correct values I decided to use a meter.

The white balance issue is more interesting. It’s easy enough to make white = white, a couple of mouse clicks in post processing will do it, but that’s not what I was going for here. The lighting in the pool was very yellow/orange and I wanted to retain some of that to get the feel of the event right (I’m after realism not photoshop accuracy). So whilst I have corrected for most of it, I’ve left a slight yellow tint to the pictures and resisted making white = pure white.

Good for you for making sure you kept the shot as accurate as possible. Too many times shots are over 'shopped which can spoil things.

I've had one or two WB problems the last couple of times I've been out. The weathers been particularly murky, and shots taken at the beginning and end of the day have ended up with a bit of a blue cast to them. As such I'm going to have a bit of a play this weekend with custom WB settings and metering using a lightmeter - if for no other reason to gauge just how practical it is.

Cheers,

Simon.

laine
2nd of February 2006 (Thu), 18:41
Great shots, Glenn (and thanks for the welcome in an older thread).

For those on the east coast of the US, there will be some outdoor tournaments this summer hosted by clubs in NH/MA, NY, MD, and possibly NC and we'd love photographers and spectators. Most clubs also have regular practice sessions (but you have to deal with pool lighting in winter). And the world games will be in Amsterdam in August.

Cheers,
Laine

gmen
3rd of February 2006 (Fri), 02:28
Another fine set of canoe polo images Glenn - I'd agree with the others that #4 is the peachiest of the bunch.
Colour temperature was determined using a colour meter.Hmmm... which model are you using? A colour temp meter appeals to my 'control-freakery' urges ;)

---- Gavin

Cadwell
3rd of February 2006 (Fri), 05:03
Another fine set of canoe polo images Glenn - I'd agree with the others that #4 is the peachiest of the bunch.
Hmmm... which model are you using? A colour temp meter appeals to my 'control-freakery' urges ;)

---- Gavin

Thanks Gavin. The meter I use is the Konica-Minolta "Color Meter IIIF" http://www.konicaminoltaeurope.com/products/consumer_products/photometers/photometer/color_meter_iiif/

musicmate
3rd of February 2006 (Fri), 06:45
some great shots there Glenn #4 is my fav as well.

Steve

Cadwell
3rd of February 2006 (Fri), 14:15
Great shots, Glenn (and thanks for the welcome in an older thread).

For those on the east coast of the US, there will be some outdoor tournaments this summer hosted by clubs in NH/MA, NY, MD, and possibly NC and we'd love photographers and spectators. Most clubs also have regular practice sessions (but you have to deal with pool lighting in winter). And the world games will be in Amsterdam in August.

Cheers,
Laine

Thanks Laine. Will you be at the world championships? There's a possibility that I will be shooting that on behalf of the BCU - there are a few details to be worked out before I can say for sure.

Steve, thanks :)

Croasdail
3rd of February 2006 (Fri), 22:31
Hey Glenn, intersting thoughts there on the color temp. I also subscribe to the capturing things as they were, not as they should be.. which has led avoided things like strobes and flashes. Of course in an "everything perfect" world, this is becoming less popular and in particular in any stringer work I am attempting I am finding this to not be compatible. So I am buying my pocket wizards and everything else you need.

Oh well... very nice set there buy the way. Cheers.