How many 20D owners upgraded to 5D?

[Lord_Malone]

Was it worth it? I love my 20D, but have been really tempted by the 5D lately. The only real advantage for me would be being able to fully utilize the wide end of my 16-35L. Yes, I could've got the 10-22 EF-S, but I figured that I'd eventually upgrade to a FF someday. At the long end I would really miss the crop factor. Any and all opinions welcome.

[Mike_B]

I'm also interested to hear peoples views.

Please.

[peterdoomen]

I didn't and I won't. Instead, I'll invest in glass and in making less user error.

P.

[chris clements]

I've bought one, but I haven't upgraded - both live side by side. The 20D can't be beaten for sports and 'reach' . Remember that in shots of a distant person/animal taken from the same position with the same lens, the 20D will actullly have 2 or 3m more useable pixels of your subject.

The 5 is quieter than the 20 at high ISO, and gives amazing skin tones. Superb for anyone serious about portraits or weddings.

The 5 viewfinder isn't as big an improvement as I'd hoped (hardly better at all if you wear specs), but the big rear LCD is great. Battery life doesn't seem to have suffered significantly.

[GS Rider]

I bought the 5D after two months of agonising...had it a week now and I'm impressed with the image quality. Then again I do some work for corporate clients that involves doing some photography for print / poster usage so it went through as a business purchase for me. I'm not sure I would have if it was a private / personal purchase - sure I would have been drooling over the pics in the mags, but I'd probably have waited a bit more.

[GyRob]

i dont see it as an upgrade more of a landscape portrait camera.
Rob

[Streetshooter]

I have 1 and another on the way.... to me, it's definately an upgrade......I'll never use a 20D again......great camera and great image quality.......don

[chris clements]

it's definately an upgrade......I'll never use a 20D again
You mean you wouldn't even dust down your 20D if you went bird watching or were in the back row at the Superbowl ??
That's sad if true.
It would help to give reasons if you're going to make such unequivocal/absolute statements.

[SuzyView]

I just upgraded from my 10D to the 20D because I wanted something really great with sports and low light. I also do portraits, but I am having the time of my life learning the 20D, which really is a superior camera to the 10D in many ways. I am looking for glass that costs as much as the 20D, so the idea of the 5D or whatever is coming out next isn't in my budget in the next year or so. I resisted upgrading to the 20D because I didn't need it then. With weddings and events, it's great having 2 dSLRs.

From what I've read about the 5D, it is great, but not quite perfect yet. Wait until the new models come out in a week or so. ;)

SuzyView

[jjonsalt]

If I were able to afford upgrading I would get the 1D Mk2n before I got the 5D.

[Az2Africa]

I bought the 5D and kept the 20D. Both have their advantages. I have no use for the 1D mkll, as I don't need the 8fps frame rate. You can wait forever for the next camera that might come out. I hear a lot of negative comments from the magazine and internet readers (arm chair experts) who haven't seen or handled a 5D. But until they have one and use it I don't pay any attention the them. Like it or not, it is an "upgrade". As is the 1D and 1Ds. But that said, the 20D is a fantastic camera and will stay with me. Would I get a 1Ds ? Absolutley. If I develop the skill and the need for one.

[JBF]

I absolutely love the full view of the 5D, I love both cameras. I have sold my 20D but will probably upgrade to whatever comes out to replace it. I think that it will still be a 1.6 crop sensor, and love being able to use my lens with the multiplier effect. But the 5D has awesome resoluting power.

[sapearl]

Prior to the announcement last year of the 5D I had been considering the 20D, a fine camera in its own right. But migrating from medium format to the world of dSLR, the larger viewfinder, larger LCD, more efficient buffer and slightly heftier feel of the 5D are more appealing to my aging eyes and shooting style.

I don't expect any price drops on the 5D body itself for PMA, but I am hoping on some local store promotionals with either lenses or cards when purchased together. They tend to do that here. No rush - I can be very patient.

[Joerg_E]

I have a 5D since several weeks and two 20D since they are available. the 20D is avery useable camera for teh money. But ,If possible, I use the 5D now. Premium picture quality. More pixel, full view and - sometimes good, sometimes not - less depth of field at the same aperture. The image quality at high ISO is superior to the 20D. But sometimes, I really miss the 1,6x crop! Tomorrow, the King of Spain visits Stuttgart and I only have the 120-300 from Sigma - with the 5D it s probably too less. So I use the 20D, because it's outside and I can use it with ISO 400. The 120-300 is another reason for the 5D. On my 20D I had very often problems with the sharpness at difficult light situations. On my 5D the pictures with this lens are really great! So I am thinking about a Sigma 300-800 - but it's heavy and expensive and one more lens to carry with...
The 5D is slow. If the collegues are shooting with 8.5 fps with their 1DIIN, they can be nearly sure to have the right moment. For action and sports, the 5D is not a first choice.
I wanted to sell both 20D, when I used my 5D the first time. But now I think I'll keep one for long distances and sports. Many times cheaper than an 300-800 and not so heavy. But when I own 6000,- I'll get the 300-800 and sell my 20D ;o)

[Lord_Malone]

Always good to hear varied opinions and reasons. I think ultimately I'm going to keep my 20D and continue to watch the market to see what Canon comes out with next. I'll be content for now until I can come up with a little extra cash for a FF body later in my future. It seems to make sense to have both in the stable.

[jacobsen1]

As a former 10D owner and a current 1DmII owner here is my view:

If you are into landscape and portrait, it is the camera to get unless you can afford the 1DsmII, but you can get 2 5Ds for that price, or one and A LOT of glass. If you are a sports shooter the 1DmII is a better camera. I shoot both sports and landscape so it's a tough call, but I bought my camera before the 5d was available. I also "need" the 8.5fps so I would still buy the smae camera. The biggest thing is if you can afford a $3k camera, then get either of these to suit your needs. If you can't the 20D is a wonderful camera for the money.

It's all personal preference and budget, so everyone will pick different cameras for different reasons. All of the current canon cameras are great in their own way, so none are truely better than another when you look at every aspect.

Ben

[Streetshooter]

Chris....in the 1st place....I like the 20D...it got me deep iknto digital image capture...but my problem always was the 1/6 crop factor. The small viewfinder is a big issue for me too. I come from Leica's and occaisionally Nikon F-3's...so the full frame makes the camera for me. The image quality is definately better and the 5D feels better to me in my hand and eye.....the reason that I'll never use the 20D is simply that I don't have one anymore....is the 20D a good camera...yes for those that like them...is the 5D a better camera....that's a no brainer...for me...it's the best that I could find....I could easilly buy the "pro"-- Mark-- series but those camera bodies are toooooo big for me...I need to be almost invisible when I work....the 5D hides itself wonderfully....don

[Raj]

Hey Lord,

I became *VERY* tempted to get the 5D also. But for now, I will keep my 20D.
Why ?

- 5D may give me more wide angle options etc but I CAN live with my 10-22 mm + 20D combo which gives same FOV as 16mm on FF. I dont feel the need to go any wider.
On the contaray if I sell my 20D, I will have to sell my EFS lenses too (may be some day but I am not ready yet)

- 5D has better noise profiles as per DPreview but I find my 20D quite good enuf for me, so I dont see that as a prime reason to upgrade.

- From what I have read, even the best lenses like 16-35L is showing vingetting on 5D when wide open. I am sure this is not showstopper, but I does confuses me that may be I cant use lenses wide open unless I have the best & even then I may need extra PP steps.
But definately qutting on my 20D & getting 5D will be a huge investment as I will always have to mantain good glass.

- I found 5D's picture styles quite attractive, although not many pro's may find it useful. I really thought its good to have RAW+jpeg where using picture styles you could get punchier images staright from camera, but this alone couldnt justify 5D's purchase.
I downloaded the latest DPP version, so I can just shoot RAW & use DPP to apply picture styles when converting to jpeg. So some manual work bit still saves a lot of money which I can use elsewehere.

- I am not sure if I want to get slower then 20D's 5fps. I am not a pro-shooter but I did one racing cart circuit shoot + one dolphin show & appricate 20D's speed. I do find 20D's RAW buffer limiting though.

All this being said, this is totally my feeling, for a user with different needs FF or 5D may be more appropriate.May be I am not ready for FF yet. I just couldnt justify the purchase for me at this moment although I did fell for 5D firth time I handled it. I have also seen very impressive shots taken with 5D by my friend in Africa. So no doubt its an excellent camera. It may have other specs too which are better & i havent explored yet, but If I havent yet then most probably I dont need them/I am not ready for them yet ;)

[RikWriter]

I bought one back in October and have no regrets whatsoever. I kept my 20D around for a bit, but wound up selling it because I never used it. The best part isn't just the wide angle ability but the fact that you're able to use some excellent glass in a more versatile way, particularly the 24-70 f2.8, the 70-200L and the 50mm.

[Tom W]

I bought one back in October and have no regrets whatsoever. I kept my 20D around for a bit, but wound up selling it because I never used it. The best part isn't just the wide angle ability but the fact that you're able to use some excellent glass in a more versatile way, particularly the 24-70 f2.8, the 70-200L and the 50mm.

I also bought the 5D around the same time frame. BUt I didn't have a 20D at the time. I made the very difficult decision of keeping the 5D over the 1D II, primarily because it better matched my type of shooting. The same 3 lenses are very useful on the 5D, and the 16-35 is beginning to look less useful every day - too wide most of the time.

[Mark_Cohran]

I looked at both the 5D and the 1D Mark IIN - for what I do, and for the price, I went with the 1D series camera. I don't consider the 5D an upgrade to the 20D, but rather a different camera altogether. I'm sure it's a fine camera, but I wasn't even tempted (that much). I like the reach of the 20D, and the 1D is plenty wide for me, with the advantage of the exceptional build of the body.

Mark

[curryjc@ktc.com]

I bought a 5D and now use my 10D as a back up. I don't consider them in the same class. The 5D is full frame and that makes a world of difference, also there are a few more features on the 5D than the 10D. As far as quality I haven't noticed an appreciable difference. Although I haven't done any serious cropping of images. The 10D is more forgiving on lenses and their quality while lens aberation can be noticeable on the 5D with certain lenses when wide open. Especially the shorter the focal length or the more pronounced the zoom.

[RikWriter]

Hey- From what I have read, even the best lenses like 16-35L is showing vingetting on 5D when wide open.

Not true.

[Kennymc]

Got the 5D but kept the 20D as they both have their advantages... If I had to keep only one it would be the.......... sorry can't make make my mind up... ;)

[liza]

If I were able to afford upgrading I would get the 1D Mk2n before I got the 5D.

Same here. The 5D doesn't do what I need for sports photography. I need the reach and the speed, not the wide angle.

[KevC]

Don't worry about missing the crop factor. I believe if you crop an 8MP image from the 5D's 12MP you'll have the same effect :)

[Kennymc]

Don't worry about missing the crop factor. I believe if you crop an 8MP image from the 5D's 12MP you'll have the same effect :)
Not strictly true the 20D would have more pixels than the same crop from a 5D...

[Jon]

Don't worry about missing the crop factor. I believe if you crop an 8MP image from the 5D's 12MP you'll have the same effect :)
8 MP out of a 5D will give you a 1D II image. Cropping to the size of a 20D will yield a 5 MP or so image.

[DaveG]

You mean you wouldn't even dust down your 20D if you went bird watching or were in the back row at the Superbowl ??
That's sad if true.
It would help to give reasons if you're going to make such unequivocal/absolute statements.

I plan on using my 5D along side of the 20D. The crop from the 5D is more or less the same as what you'd get from a 20D except that the file size (and I only shoot RAW) is smaller. So same crop, smaller file. But don't kid yourself into thinking that you have longer lenses (back row at superbowl) with the 20D over the 5D. You are just seeing a tighter crop.

Because the 5D is a generation newer I'm also curious as to how the noise at the higher ISO's look. Even if the sensor size didn't come into it, based on the vast improvement of the 20D's noise over the 10D's (and I would hope that this trend continues to the 5D)then this could be a deal maker all by itself.

The tougher choice is going to be the mythical 30D. What is this going to do other than being a D200 killer. We will see in about ten days I should think.

[davidwegs]

I plan on using my 5D along side of the 20D. The crop from the 5D is more or less the same as what you'd get from a 20D except that the file size (and I only shoot RAW) is smaller. So same crop, smaller file. But don't kid yourself into thinking that you have longer lenses (back row at superbowl) with the 20D over the 5D. You are just seeing a tighter crop.

Because the 5D is a generation newer I'm also curious as to how the noise at the higher ISO's look. Even if the sensor size didn't come into it, based on the vast improvement of the 20D's noise over the 10D's (and I would hope that this trend continues to the 5D)then this could be a deal maker all by itself.

The tougher choice is going to be the mythical 30D. What is this going to do other than being a D200 killer. We will see in about ten days I should think.

I have the 20d (x2) and 5d's and they are both great performers in their respective class (which is IMHO not the same class). I have had (and now sold) all of the 1D cams and found them to be a bit too much for my work. Mostly portraiture.

I have ordered a D200 to play with and anticipate getting the 35d or whatever when it becomes available too. I think you have to *upgrade* with the mind set that you will use the tool to make you money or... just because you can. If it is more than you care to spend, then keep the 20d, they work very well and will be a tough one to upgrade (enough) for Canon.

If you can afford to, go ahead, if the $$$ are any concern, wait. Thats my opinion...

[DaveG]

You mean you wouldn't even dust down your 20D if you went bird watching or were in the back row at the Superbowl ??
That's sad if true.
It would help to give reasons if you're going to make such unequivocal/absolute statements.

I plan on using my 5D along side of the 20D. The crop from the 5D is more or less the same as what you'd get from a 20D except that the file size (and I only shoot RAW) is smaller. So same crop, smaller file. But don't kid yourself into thinking that you have longer lenses (back row at superbowl) with the 20D over the 5D. You are just seeing a tighter crop.

Because the 5D is a generation newer I'm also curious as to how the noise at the higher ISO's look. Even if the sensor size didn't come into it, based on the vast improvement of the 20D's noise over the 10D's (and I would hope that this trend continues to the 5D)then this could be a deal maker all by itself.

The tougher choice is going to be the mythical 30D. What is this going to do other than being a D200 killer. We will see in about ten days I should think.

[chancellor]

Yesterday sold my 20D and everything else (grip, lens, books, etc.) to move to 5D. Today enjoyed hours in B&H looking at variety of things, but definitely looked into 5D and Mk II N (actually, they didn't have N on display, but I've seen it before and know the differences). I wanted to reassure myself that 5D being "not as weatherproof" as the 1 series, is actually built solid, etc. I have to say that I was very impressed with the camera, but to me it definitely requires a grip. No question in my mind that 1 series feel is in a league of it's own, but to me spending under $3K for the body and getting: FF and 50% more pixels than Mk II N, is worth it. I could get myself to 1Ds, but I really don't need it at this time.

20D was sold to a lucky person (Bill form FM) in Canada, which will be mailed tomorrow. I bet he'll enjoy every second of it since it's pretty much brand-new and I added ton of extras.

[Rob612]

I traded my 350D for the 5D. A couple of weeks later I traded the 20D for the 1D MkIIN :D

[Lord_Malone]

Yesterday sold my 20D and everything else (grip, lens, books, etc.) to move to 5D. Today enjoyed hours in B&H looking at variety of things, but definitely looked into 5D and Mk II N (actually, they didn't have N on display, but I've seen it before and know the differences). I wanted to reassure myself that 5D being "not as weatherproof" as the 1 series, is actually built solid, etc. I have to say that I was very impressed with the camera, but to me it definitely requires a grip. No question in my mind that 1 series feel is in a league of it's own, but to me spending under $3K for the body and getting: FF and 50% more pixels than Mk II N, is worth it. I could get myself to 1Ds, but I really don't need it at this time.

20D was sold to a lucky person (Bill form FM) in Canada, which will be mailed tomorrow. I bet he'll enjoy every second of it since it's pretty much brand-new and I added ton of extras.

I'd love to add the 1D MK II N to my arsenal someday. I'll just enjoy my 20D for now and save my pennies for the 5D replacement whenever it becomes available. Hopefully, it'll have a burst rate equal (5 fps) or superior to the 20D (8 fps ideally, but it's probably wishful thinking). Maybe I'll even be blessed with a 1D MK II N if I'm a good boy. ;)

[richardho11]

I also upgraded my 20D to a 5D and have no regrets what so ever. I can never go back to a 20D now. If I had one, I would never pick it up. lol. All my glasses are so much more usable now. I LOVE IT!

[JBF]

All I can say is what I said earlier........I LOVE THE 5D!! Feels like a camera and looking though the viewfinder is like heaven, it's huge!! Now all I want is a firmware upgrade to make it 5 FPS like my 20D I sold. I guess now I have to get excited about PMA and whatever Canon decides to do with the upgrade to the 20D. My feeling is that Canon might not come out with a 20D replacement until Sept 06, since the 20D is not that inferior to the Nikon D200. I think a more likely upgrade might be to the Canon Flagship EOS-1Ds Mark II. I am hoping there will be a 20D upgrade.

[hef]

I traded my 350D for the 5D. A couple of weeks later I traded the 20D for the 1D MkIIN :D

Same direction i'm going with my 20d. It's for sale tomorrow in hopes of getting a 1d mkiin. That combination seems perfect.

[Tom W]

The 5D and 1D II are a good combo if you can swing it financially. Actually, the 5D and 20D might be a good combo as well, especially since they both operate in a similar manner.

[Raj]

Not true.

Rik, I dont want to argument coz I dont own 5D & dont have first hand experience, but just for the sake of discussion. Check out this link

http://www.ddisoftware.com/20d-5d/

[mebailey]

I had an XT before my 5D so I cant comment on the virtues of the 20D vs. 5D. But ... I am astoundingly happy with the 5D over the XT. The focusing improvement alone was worth the price of the upgrade!! (no kidding). The 5D focuses faster and far more accuately than my XT (it even focuses better than I can and a whole lot faster!!) The build quality is also tremendous compared to the XT but similar to the 20D Ive heard. The resolution is improved over the XT but this is not as dramatic as the focusing improvement. The larger screen of the 5D is also a plus. The speed is similar to an XT (which is fast enough for me). I did keep the XT for long shots with the 100-400 "dust pumper" and as a back-up....

[chancellor]

Well, another 10-18 hours before the 5D, grip, 580EX and a few other things arrive. Ti-iii-iii-ime is on my site, yes it is... ;-)

[RikWriter]

Rik, I dont want to argument coz I dont own 5D & dont have first hand experience, but just for the sake of discussion. Check out this link


I don't need to check it out. I've used many lenses with my 5D and the only time I've had any vignetting whatsoever was with my 100-400 at 400, wide open.

[richardho11]

Not true.

I second that. I use my roommates 16-35L all the time and no sign of vingetting what so ever. Infact, I dont notice any vingetting with any of my lenses.

[sapearl]

That's reassuring to hear - I'm planning on getting a 5D with the 24-105mm about a month from now.

I don't need to check it out. I've used many lenses with my 5D and the only time I've had any vignetting whatsoever was with my 100-400 at 400, wide open.

[Leorooster]

I just bought a 5D (it's on the way :D ). I don't see it as an upgrade, but merely as my 2nd body (or 1st body for the matter ;) ). I think the 17-40L will be on my 5D and the 100-400L will be on my 20D most of the times.

[Tom W]

I second that. I use my roommates 16-35L all the time and no sign of vignetting what so ever. Infact, I don't notice any vignetting with any of my lenses.

Just to clear the air, we need to get our definitions of vignetting straight. There is some light falloff at wide apertures with some lenses. Some call that optical vignetting, while others simply refer to it as light falloff.

In this comparison shot of the Canon 16-35 and Zeiss/Jena 20 mm, both at 20 mm and f/2.8, light falloff can be seen:

http://www.pbase.com/photosbytom/image/53824283.jpg

This light falloff goes away as one stops down in accordance with the cosine law (in other words, it's an optical phenomena). And, blue skies are known to accentuate the darkening effect. Of course, most of us don't shoot landscapes at f/2.8 except in unusual circumstances.

Then there's hard vignetting where the corner of the image is actually blocked, either by the hood, the lens barrel, or other obstruction. That's what most people refer to as vignetting. And I've not seen it on any lenses on my film cameras or the 5D.

[Rob612]

Same direction i'm going with my 20d. It's for sale tomorrow in hopes of getting a 1d mkiin. That combination seems perfect.

It is, for direct experience. :D:D:D:D

[Rob612]

The 5D and 1D II are a good combo if you can swing it financially. Actually, the 5D and 20D might be a good combo as well, especially since they both operate in a similar manner.

Sure. ACtually, as a lot of us have ever said, the 5D is a baby 1Ds and the 20D a baby 1D so.

I swinged the 20D for the 1D for a series of "casual events" too long to tell here. But of course I'm really happy of those events :D

[RikWriter]

Just to clear the air, we need to get our definitions of vignetting straight. There is some light falloff at wide apertures with some lenses. Some call that optical vignetting, while others simply refer to it as light falloff.



I was referring to light fall off myself, not hard vignetting.

[Jon]

I was referring to light fall off myself, not hard vignetting.
That's an inescapable fact of optical life though. Light falls off as the cosine^4 of the angle from the lens axis, as Tom said. If you don't like it, don't use wide angle lenses.

[RikWriter]

That's an inescapable fact of optical life though. Light falls off as the cosine^4 of the angle from the lens axis, as Tom said. If you don't like it, don't use wide angle lenses.


I think you have my post confused with someone else's. I wasn't complaining of vignetting with wide angle lenses. I was saying that I had not experienced vignetting at all with my 5D except with my 100-400 at 400 wide open at f5.6.

[sapearl]

Good examples Tom - illustrates and explains the point very well.

I've been a little confused by folks who have been using the "vignetting" and light "fall off" criticisms of various lenses throughout the forums. What a number of people consider to be defective design in a particular lens, is actually the laws of physics operating properly. Gee, and the way people talk it sure seems like there are an awful lot of bad lenses out there....;)

Just to clear the air, we need to get our definitions of vignetting straight. There is some light falloff at wide apertures with some lenses. Some call that optical vignetting, while others simply refer to it as light falloff.

[Tom W]

Good examples Tom - illustrates and explains the point very well.

Thanks. It's often an overblown issue, especially on the more argumentative web forums. Ahem...DPR...Ahem...

I've been a little confused by folks who have been using the "vignetting" and light "fall off" criticisms of various lenses throughout the forums. What a number of people consider to be defective design in a particular lens, is actually the laws of physics operating properly. Gee, and the way people talk it sure seems like there are an awful lot of bad lenses out there....;)

They're all bad lenses. Send them to me!
Actually, there are some that aren't so good. The Canon 20/2.8 USM works well on the 1.6X sensor, and it was reasonable on the 1.3X, but on full-frame, light falloff was pretty large. But for the most part, I'm pretty happy with the lenses I've used on the 5D.

[Jon]

I think you have my post confused with someone else's. I wasn't complaining of vignetting with wide angle lenses. I was saying that I had not experienced vignetting at all with my 5D except with my 100-400 at 400 wide open at f5.6.
Not surprising since you were responding to Tom's reply to Richard's post, both of which were specifically referring to wide-angle lenses. The inference was obvious.

[Tom W]

Not surprising since you were responding to Tom's reply to Richard's post, both of which were specifically referring to wide-angle lenses. The inference was obvious.

Now I'm confused. ;)

[spencer87]

if I had an unlimited budget, I'd probably be out shooting with a 5d right now. But considering I could buy 2- 20d's for that price, it's hard (especially for a student) to justify spending the money, even though I would love to go full-frame eventually.

[RikWriter]

Not surprising since you were responding to Tom's reply to Richard's post, both of which were specifically referring to wide-angle lenses. The inference was obvious.

Which inference? Because now I am confused.

[sapearl]

Ah, I remember those improvished days of student life back a few decades. I had to scrape and save for about a year before I could afford my Canon FtQL and 200mm lens.

Now I only HAVE a student in college, so I'll hope for some "After PMA Sales" before buying my 5D. :lol:

if I had an unlimited budget, I'd probably be out shooting with a 5d right now. But considering I could buy 2- 20d's for that price, it's hard (especially for a student) to justify spending the money, even though I would love to go full-frame eventually.

[Tom W]

Ah, I remember those improvished days of student life back a few decades. I had to scrape and save for about a year before I could afford my Canon FtQL and 200mm lens.

Now I only HAVE a student in college, so I'll hope for some "After PMA Sales" before buying my 5D. :lol:

It just dropped $30 more at B&H to $2969. You have to click on "add to cart" to get the price.

[Jon]

Which inference? Because now I am confused.
OK - Richard posted regarding his roommate's 16-35. Tom followed with example shots of the 16-35 and a 20 mm Zeiss demonstrating light falloff, and distinguished between cos^4 light falloff and hard vignetting, where something gets in the way of the lens' FoV. Then you quoted Tom. Obvious inference was that you were also, at that point, talking about a WA lens.

[malla1962]

Some people may not see this as a upgrade!:D

[RikWriter]

Some people may not see this as a upgrade!:D


They'd be wrong.

[malla1962]

They'd be wrong.Now that depends on what there shooting,But for fast action photography the 5 fps and 1.6 crop come in very handy.:D

[RikWriter]

Now that depends on what there shooting,But for fast action photography the 5 fps and 1.6 crop come in very handy.:D

If those were my needs, I think I'd look into a 1DII.

[minime9us]

How could anyone be wrong that it is or isnt an upgrade when thats their opinion. Funny how I see in many product forums people defending their purchase and belittling the opinions of those who dont feel like they do about their purchase. Get a grip no one spent your money you did kinda reminds me of elementary school kids. I dont have either camera but am looking at the 1Dmark11n and in my opinion from what ive read in these forums its better than the 5d but who knows maybe its not but one thing you can be sure of i wont get mad at the one who tells me i should have got a 5d or 1dsmark2 cause if i felt that way myself thats what id have. Be happy with what you have even if youre the only one that likes it.

[chancellor]

Dude, 1Dmark11n sucks!

:lol:

[sapearl]

As one who is considering purchase of a 5D, why do you feel that way about the 1DMark11n - in your view, what are it's specific deficiencies other than the obvious high price?

Dude, 1Dmark11n sucks!

:lol:

[RikWriter]

How could anyone be wrong that it is or isnt an upgrade when thats their opinion. Funny how I see in many product forums people defending their purchase and belittling the opinions of those who dont feel like they do about their purchase. Get a grip no one spent your money you did kinda reminds me of elementary school kids. I dont have either camera but am looking at the 1Dmark11n and in my opinion from what ive read in these forums its better than the 5d but who knows maybe its not but one thing you can be sure of i wont get mad at the one who tells me i should have got a 5d or 1dsmark2 cause if i felt that way myself thats what id have. Be happy with what you have even if youre the only one that likes it.


Who's mad? Do you have to be mad to disagree with someone?

[chancellor]

As one who is considering purchase of a 5D, why do you feel that way about the 1DMark11n - in your view, what are it's specific deficiencies other than the obvious high price?

sapearl, I was genuinly joking. I think both are amazing cameras and to each his own. If your quesiton was unrelated to my unsuccessful joke, I'll be happy to elaborate further.

[sapearl]

Sorry Chancellor, 'twas a bit early and before my morning coffee - didn't see the joke for what it was. ;)

sapearl, I was genuinly joking. I think both are amazing cameras and to each his own. If your quesiton was unrelated to my unsuccessful joke, I'll be happy to elaborate further.

[chancellor]

Water under the bridge ;-)