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SHKJ
1st of February 2006 (Wed), 22:55
Hi All,
Has anyone heard that the "G" series camera from Canon will be discontinued ??


Reason for asking is that when I spoke to my camera dealer (who I can't mention for obvious reasons) they told me that there will be no new "G" series camera's ????

Any one hear anything ???

Thanks...shkj

Don Ellis
2nd of February 2006 (Thu), 01:06
If anyone had heard anything verifiable, it would have been posted. Your camera dealer is not a Canon insider who is leaking information, but just a dealer out on the street with the rest of us. If there is any "obvious reason" for his name not to be mentioned, it is so he is not laughed at later for his speculation.

Don

sdommin
2nd of February 2006 (Thu), 08:21
Idle speculation on my part:

If there is no new G-Series camera introduced at the PMA show later this month, you can pretty much assume there won't be one ever. The last G-Series came out a year and a half ago, which is a REALLY long time between models. Knowing what we know about how Canon is trying to get people to buy cheaper and cheaper DSLR bodies and lenses, maybe Canon isn't interested in "advanced" consumer cams like the G-Series.

I sincerely hope I'm wrong. Time will tell.

dbump
2nd of February 2006 (Thu), 13:47
I hope you're wrong too, but there's enough basis for your supposition to make me worried.

I'm not a marketing guru, but it seems to me as if advanced cameras like the G and Pro series play an important role in drawing consumers towards the cash cow of DSLR. A gateway camera, if you will. If only the first one were always free...

Bryan Bedell
2nd of February 2006 (Thu), 13:57
Maybe they just got it right with the G6? : )

Seems like they're pushing the S1/S2 pretty hard, they have 'em at Target now. It is a tough sell to sell a G7 or Pro2 for $100 or $200 less than an XT. For that kind of money, people expect SLR-like performance. Look at all the people on this list that were thoroughly dissapointed with their G6 until they started thinking of it as a fantastic point and shoot rather than a scaled-back SLR.

Canon are definitely not technology leaders, as we've discussed elsewhere, so maybe they're just giving the whiz-bang prosumer market up, it would make sense in the short run, but it's sad that they lack the foresight or initiative to try anything new when they have what I'd assume to be the market-leading camera at the moment.

Even so, I already got mine, so they can discontinue them at will.

lefturn99
2nd of February 2006 (Thu), 18:09
Canon are definitely not technology leaders, as we've discussed elsewhere


I agree with that. What they do is produce the very best image quality. Bells and whistles or beautiful pictures?

I echo the other comments, especially that PMA will tell the tale. And also correct, a G series at the price of the Pentax and Nikon entry dSLRs won't work. What would work is an R1 done right. We will see if Canon have the vision.

photodd
7th of February 2006 (Tue), 17:15
KEH has not had a new G6 listed for weeks now...nor a Pro1 for that matter...

mrhst
8th of February 2006 (Wed), 20:10
I have a G3 & Pro 1......I was waiting for the price of the G6 to decline before it was discontinued. In the last 3 weeks it was no longer available at 3 of my usual stores. B&H raised the price about $40. last week and now it's no longer available on their web site. It's a great camera...perfect size and you can add a Canon flash. I almost regret getting the Pro 1.....it's a fine camera but not quite as fast. With the prices on Rebels coming down, the G series may be finished. I was hoping the next G7 or whatever had a wide angle lens.

sharksbite
8th of February 2006 (Wed), 20:28
could pro 1 really be the one and only "pro-series" camera? that wouldn't really make sense, it would seem incomplete. i'm hoping pro2 is on it's way.

Andy_T
10th of February 2006 (Fri), 05:36
I was hoping the next G7 or whatever had a wide angle lens.

No problem, just use an adapter to mount either the Canon WC-58 or Olympus WCON-08 to go to 28 mm equivalent on the wide end. They both give perfect results.

Best regards,
Andy

superkully
10th of February 2006 (Fri), 06:13
How does the WCON-08 work on a G-series? Looking at the UK Olympus site it says it has a bayonet mount....

dbump
10th of February 2006 (Fri), 09:09
There are several versions of the WCON-08, designated by a terminal letter. You may be looking at the WCON-08D or F, which both have non-threaded mounts. I think the WCON-08E is what most people have used, since it has a 55mm threaded mount, but I've always wondered if some of the others would work--the B has a 62mm mount. You'll need a step-up or -down ring with either.

Andy_T
10th of February 2006 (Fri), 09:12
The B is substantially more expensive because it has a larger diameter, so you can use it e.g. on the Pro1.

But the E works fine on the G series.
And one of the best sources is ebay user olympusauctions ... olympus themselves selling off new items in damaged boxes.
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=unknown&sbrftog=1&from=R10&satitle=wcon&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&bs=Search&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&fgtp=&sadis=200&fpos=ZIP%2FPostal&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&seller=1&sass=olympusauctions

I bought my copy in 2003 for 150$ for my G2 and did not regret it. It should be significantly less expensive now.

Best regards,
Andy

toddb
10th of February 2006 (Fri), 13:21
I've been waiting for the next G for about 7 months now. I currently have the 10D for the past 3 years and love it...but my wife doesn't like it because it's too bulky for her to take snapshots of the kids. The only reason I don't immediately get the G6 (and the pros for it is that I can use my existing CF cards and batteries from my 10D which is pretty darn nice) but I've seen the Digi II proc on the newer cameras and I want it. If the G6 had this lower noize and the ability to take 640x480 video only limited by memory, I'd be so all over it. I'm going to be very disappointed if I have to buy the S80, not that it's not a bad camera, but with out RAW support and a hotshoe, I'm just not going to be happy about it.

photodd
10th of February 2006 (Fri), 13:55
The only reason I don't immediately get the G6 (and the pros for it is that I can use my existing CF cards and batteries from my 10D which is pretty darn nice) but I've seen the Digi II proc on the newer cameras and I want it. If the G6 had this lower noize and the ability to take 640x480 video only limited by memory, I'd be so all over it.

The pro1 does all except Digi II. But now you're like the rest of us and waiting for the pro2 announcement...

FlyingPete
14th of February 2006 (Tue), 19:06
The S series is getting really close to the G series in functionality now, also with there are the odd rumour a low level DLSR may be replaced, which will most probably be priced similar to a G series.

From what I understand, the current 8MP 3.2x Zoom S80 is only missing the flip screen, built in hot shoe and lesser zoom, in fact it sensor is 8MP, not 7.1MP. What improvements would they make to the G6? 8MP perhaps, big deal.

Also the Pro1 has now been out for ages, what happened to a replacement for that it?

vkalia
15th of February 2006 (Wed), 07:19
I see a market for a small 'tweener cameras. The S80 doesnt have RAW and cannot take external flashes, which keeps it firmly in the "compact" category.

Why do you need a replacement for the G6 anyway? It works well enough for me.

Vandit

Andy_T
15th of February 2006 (Wed), 14:58
From what I understand, the current 8MP 3.2x Zoom S80 is only missing the flip screen, built in hot shoe and lesser zoom, in fact it sensor is 8MP, not 7.1MP. What improvements would they make to the G6? 8MP perhaps, big deal.


Well, as far as I can remember, it has been like this since the S30 and the G1 :wink:

+ more compact size
- no flip-out LCD
- f/2.8 instead of f/2 zoom
- missing hot shoe and thread for conversion lenses

Best regards,
Andy

dbump
21st of February 2006 (Tue), 14:30
Given today's product announcements from Canon, any further speculation on Scott's theory, that the G and Pro are finished? Any chance that there will be further announcements from Canon? I don't recall the timing in the past.

Edit:
I just noticed that none of the non-DSLR releases support RAW. Am I just deluding myself by thinking that this means there must be a prosumer model lurking in the wings?

dbump
21st of February 2006 (Tue), 15:18
Feh:
http://www.photographyblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/canon_powershot_g_series_cameras_rip/

(Claims that a Canon UK rep. confirmed that the G series is finished)

stevewwoo
21st of February 2006 (Tue), 16:15
what exactly does this discontinuation mean, in terms of service & support, for those of us who just bought the G6 and have a a 5 year mackie warranty on the camera?

Sophia
21st of February 2006 (Tue), 16:33
what exactly does this discontinuation mean, in terms of service & support, for those of us who just bought the G6 and have a a 5 year mackie warranty on the camera?

From what I understand, discontinuation = end of G series. Warranty, service and support will be all the same. I wish Canon just make a hybrid. DSLR with LCD flip and preview. Just the right size and jet black. Wohoo! I'll be tempted to buy that lol.

dbump
21st of February 2006 (Tue), 16:41
It should have no effect on that. It just means they won't be developing more new cameras with similar features (or not at least in this product line).

photodd
21st of February 2006 (Tue), 17:41
(Claims that a Canon UK rep. confirmed that the G series is finished)


But what about the Pro1's replacement? I hope that the S3-IS isn't the best they have to offer in a point-n-shoot.

FlyingPete
21st of February 2006 (Tue), 18:38
But what about the Pro1's replacement? I hope that the S3-IS isn't the best they have to offer in a point-n-shoot.

Probably is now with the continuing drops in the costs of SLR's, you can get the same functionality in a DLSR today that would have cost 5 times that just under two years ago.

dbump
21st of February 2006 (Tue), 18:50
Same functionality, but absolutely not the same form factor. Actually, not even the same functionality, since you lose the live-preview twist/rotate LCD, which, imho, is why the G was/is such a classic. It's not just about cost--even if a 39MP medium format camera cost the same as a 20D, it wouldn't be replacement for the 20D.

If the S3 IS is the best Canon has to offer in a small form factor camera, I think they're going to lose a lot of hobbyists to other brands. Since that will make those same folks less likely to hop on the Canon DSLR yellow brick road, it seems like a bad idea. Either Canon disagrees (and they do pay lots of people to know these things, so what do I know) or they have something else waiting to be released.

I'm hoping for the latter, but in the meanwhile, I'm going to be reading up on all the recent P&S releases that support ISO 1600 and above. Canon didn't even exceed 800 in this round...

magicmikey
21st of February 2006 (Tue), 20:51
I doubt very seriously that there will be any replacements for the G6 or Pro 1. It wouldn't make good economic sense. The dSLRs have a higher profit margin and have many more accessories available for them, making them much more profitable for Canon. Couple that with the fact that a Rebel XT costs what a Pro 1 did when it was introduced and I don't see the sense in it. (I love my G6 but I would have bought a dSLR if it would have been in the same price range at the time.)

When dSLRs were significantly more expensive, it made sense to have a "pro-sumer" point and shoot camera for advanced users who didn't want to spend $1,500 or more. With the price of dSLRs dropping so much, the next step up from a high-end point and shoot (like the S3 IS) is the Rebel XT.

While having the professional features a G6 has in a small camera is really appealing, I don't think the market is large enough for Canon to worry about. I don't think the Pro 1 or the G6 ever sold as much as we who use them think they did. They certainly weren't carried in nearly as many stores.

The bottom line is that Canon is going to do whatever they think is most profitable and not necessarily the most popular among current users.

It's kind of like the complaints I'm hearing from 20d owners about the 30d not being enough of a change. They wanted to see a new sensor and more mega-pixels but I think Canon wanted to make sure they didn't cannabilize the sales of the 5d. It's all to maximize profits.

lefturn99
21st of February 2006 (Tue), 21:01
Couple of things. I think most of the superzooms with 800 and 1600 ISO are just regular sensors with the noise being covered up with "noise reduction". There is always going to be a loss of detail.

MagicMikey, what you are saying is right from Canon's standpoint, but not from ours. When you buy a dSLR, you are only begining to spend money.

dbump
21st of February 2006 (Tue), 21:53
Lefturn, I imagine you're right--it'll be interesting to look at the images they produce as reviewers get their hands on them.

Magicmikey, I see what you're saying. I would like to know what the sales from G and Pro have been--we probably won't ever know. I'd also like to know what the secondary sales have been--from people buying non-G Canons based on the advice of photo-geeks with G's (a stat nobody knows). Canon would obviously profit if everyone bought DSLRs, lenses and accessories instead of one-stop-shopping P&S models. However, they're not the only game in town, and simply eliminating a choice doesn't mean people will take whatever is the next step up when they can switch vendors.

I'm wondering if Canon has done the math, and figures that option works out for them--if that's the case, too bad. They surely won't miss my paltry cash, I have no delusions about that. :) The only question is how many others like me are out there. Among the people I know who are interested in photography, the majority of them are strongly interested in cameras that are either smaller than a DSLR, or offer live-preview, or in many cases, both. Obviously that biases my perception of reality. Maybe I have a skewed collection of acquaintances?

magicmikey
21st of February 2006 (Tue), 22:08
lefturn99,

You're definitely right about the long-term cost of owning a dSLR. When I first decided to buy a G6 with both the wide angle and telephoto converters, several knowledgeable photographers said, "why not just buy a Digital Rebel." You'll spend the same for it as you will for all of what you're talking about buying.

The truth is that I spent about $800 on the G6 and converters when a D-Rebel was selling for $999 but I got a lens range of 24mm - 245mm (in 35mm terms) and I would have had to spend a lot more on the D-Rebel to get that same range. The lenses that would make me happy with a dSLR cost a lot of money!

dbump,

Canon's been around a long time and if they find that they've made the wrong decision (if they do end the G series), they'll just resurrect it or come up with another version. It just might take a while!

Michael

dbump
21st of February 2006 (Tue), 23:13
Michael,
Absolutely right, and as has been noted here before, Canon isn't usually bleeding edge (that seems to be Sony), so maybe they're just watching the market.

I suppose I should be thankful there isn't a new model that makes me want to run out and get it--I can concentrate on using what I've got with more skill. Or I could buy a wide angle lens...

sdommin
22nd of February 2006 (Wed), 08:18
When you buy a dSLR, you are only begining to spend money.

Very true! And that's just what Canon wants you to do. Looks like the G-Series and Pro-Series is gone.

vkalia
22nd of February 2006 (Wed), 08:35
If the G6/Pro 1 lines are indeed discontinued (which I doubt), I think it will not be because Canon wants to force people to buy SLRs, but b/c demand for these "tweener" bodies has dropped now that DSLRs have become so much cheaper.

There really isnt much of a point to having a G6 anymore, not with smaller compacts offering similar performance for less, and in a smaller package to boot (see Panasonic LX-1 as an example of a *great* camera for *photographers*).

Vandit

lefturn99
22nd of February 2006 (Wed), 08:55
It's official.
http://www.photographyblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/canon_powershot_g_series_cameras_rip/

Andy_T
22nd of February 2006 (Wed), 09:38
If the G6/Pro 1 lines are indeed discontinued (which I doubt), I think it will not be because Canon wants to force people to buy SLRs, but b/c demand for these "tweener" bodies has dropped now that DSLRs have become so much cheaper.


I also think this is the reason.

It's one of the Marketing Basics that you don't 'educate/steer the market'. If Canon wanted to 'steer' G series customers to the Digital Rebel by not offering a new G series, they might steer the customers towards the competition instead.

Obviously they don't think that the special G series package will have enough fans in the future who won't (grudgingly or happily, who knows) go for the S series if they want compact, and the EOS if they want flexible. Best of course would be if they got both :lol:

Best regards,
Andy

glowluzid
22nd of February 2006 (Wed), 09:57
There really isnt much of a point to having a G6 anymore, not with smaller compacts offering similar performance for less, and in a smaller package to boot...
Vandit

I disagree. Perhaps, yes, the market is not warranting Canon to offer prosumer cams, but I for one do not want to settle on a smaller factor if I can't use Canon ETTL and RAW and a better grip than pocket cams.

But I/we may be a rare market.

Andy_T
22nd of February 2006 (Wed), 10:08
I ... but I for one do not want to settle on a smaller factor if I can't use Canon ETTL and RAW and a better grip than pocket cams.


No problem, get a 350D then :wink:
It's not that much larger than the G series...

Really, now that I think of it, I see the small size of the 350D (that was criticised by many) in a totally new light...

Best regards,
Andy

superkully
22nd of February 2006 (Wed), 10:21
The 350D is much bigger with the kit lens than the G5.

I'm not that sad to see the G-series go actually, you can now buy a Nikon D50 with kit lens for the price I paid for my G5 in the UK.

I like the G5 for its size, but I would not upgrade unless Canon:

+ sorted out the noise at higher ISOs
+ Improved the shutter lag
+ Improved manual focussing (better LCD?)

So, I'll stick to my G5 - it doesn't seem anywhere near dying and if it does I'll pick up a 2nd hand G6 or go with another make.

Andy_T
22nd of February 2006 (Wed), 10:30
I'm not that sad to see the G-series go actually, you can now buy a Nikon D50 with kit lens for the price I paid for my G5 in the UK.

<snip>

I like the G5 for its size, but I would not upgrade unless Canon:

+ sorted out the noise at higher ISOs


Hmmm ... if High ISO noise is important for you, then you best don't switch to NOINK :wink:

However, in a small sensor P&S you'll always have high ISO noise. I used ISO50 in 95% of the images I took with my G2.

Best regards,
Andy

glowluzid
22nd of February 2006 (Wed), 10:47
No problem, get a 350D then :wink:
It's not that much larger than the G series...

Ah, but I shoot IR and vis+IR merged and other filters. All require live view. A 350D, even an IR converted one, will not allow me the same flexibility and level of creativity I want.

If you care to see what I do, take a look at my galleries. I have one in the Colorado album of Cathedral Rock that merges IR and Vis. It would be hard to do some of this with a 350D.

Thanks
dave

Andy_T
22nd of February 2006 (Wed), 11:29
Glowluzid,

then you should look at the 20Da (http://www.dpreview.com/news/0506/05060101canon20da.asp) ... it features life preview for Astrophotography as well as a modified low-pass filter.

You might as well admit that your application is not exactly main-stream :wink:

BTW, I took a look at your images, and I really like the 'Mystic Hawaii' series.

I think your images might profit from the low noise of a big EOS sensor.... but I also have to add that a suggestion for 20D users is to keep a modified G-series for infrared photography.

Best regards,
Andy

glowluzid
22nd of February 2006 (Wed), 11:43
you should look at the 20Da (http://www.dpreview.com/news/0506/05060101canon20da.asp) ...

Andy, thanks for the comments on the albums. I'll take a look at yours (workplace filters photo.net) when I get home.

The 20da only goes to ~ 700nm. I shoot the IR from 700-1000nm.

But even then, the converted SLR does not allow for live preview of the IR tones.

So, yes, I will be keeping my converted G3 (getting converted this weekend, I by David Burren).

regards
dave

andrewaaa5
22nd of February 2006 (Wed), 13:12
well, it is a sad sad day : (
i don't know whether to cry or go bowling instead...

Andy_T
22nd of February 2006 (Wed), 13:15
I'd go bowling.

Crying won't help much, but bowling and a good beer to go with it will get you over the pain :wink:

Best regards,
Andy

Sophia
22nd of February 2006 (Wed), 13:23
The new S3 is a good option:) Too much reading on this current news makes me worried about my 2 month old G6. Ok, I'm fine with this cam. I used my camera on a convention in California. Camera case, handbag, sunglasses and jacket is just a nuisance when I'm in such a hurry. lol. Oh well, I just entered on the building, removed my sunglasses and jacket, put down my 2 bags and started shooting. I just realized that I'm already late! I was like, if only I have this smaller camera lol. It doesn't happen always though.

DavidB
23rd of February 2006 (Thu), 00:06
I will be very disappointed if Canon is not going to produce any further "compact" cameras (i.e. non-SLRs with electronic viewfinders) that support RAW.
I would *love* to see a camera with a bigger sensor (ala R1) that supported RAW and E-TTL. But then there are lots of other features I wish Canon would implement for me and they don't seem to listen. I remember writing letters to Canon in 2001 asking for things like ISO in the viewfinder based on my use of the D30. Finally in 2006 they've implemented that in the 30D! ;)

Now I admit my personal use of compacts is probably not "mainstream". I've steered my wife to a Panasonic LX1 (partly because of the decent RAW support, partly because she's always loved the wide aspect ratios). My own compacts are only for IR: all my visible-light cameras are currently EOS DSLRs.

I love my Pro1: the integrated 28mm-wide lens exposure metering that Just Works for IR (not possible with DSLRs at the moment), which leads on to... the ability to use IR flashes in E-TTL half-decent response times EVF (electronic viewfinders are wonderful for non-visible photography) RAWI hope that Canon continues to develop these cameras, as there are always improvements that can be made in areas like noise.

I don't care what the name of the camera is (G, Pro, S, whatever) but it's things like RAW that are missing from the recent product announcements...

brivett
23rd of February 2006 (Thu), 14:06
Be realistic guys... the Rebel XT AKA 350D is now cheaper than my G2 cost 3 years ago.

G stands for Gone - The higher quality products have descended in price to beat the lower tech products.

jlacoy82
23rd of February 2006 (Thu), 15:01
Just a note, try finding the Powershot Pro1 for sale on B&H. :P

Good luck!

dbump
23rd of February 2006 (Thu), 15:11
Be realistic guys... the Rebel XT AKA 350D is now cheaper than my G2 cost 3 years ago.

G stands for Gone - The higher quality products have descended in price to beat the lower tech products.

As remarked elsewhere, I don't care about the G or Pro name, but I will not consider a 'mirror clattering, eye-level only viewfinder'* camera to be a replacement for my G6, no matter what the cost. Sure, if they get cheap enough, I'll buy one and use it for some things, but not as my primary camera. Again, it's not just initial cost and image quality--if those were your primary goals, I'd recommend a film camera.

*not my original quote--can't remember who to attribute it to, but it rung true, and stuck in my head

lefturn99
23rd of February 2006 (Thu), 15:17
Be realistic guys... the Rebel XT AKA 350D is now cheaper than my G2 cost 3 years ago..

But not cheaper than the G6 is going for now. And the main (although not new) point is that after you buy the XT, ya gotta buy glass.

Bosman
23rd of February 2006 (Thu), 15:34
But not cheaper than the G6 is going for now. And the main (although not new) point is that after you buy the XT, ya gotta buy glass.

But if you get the XT w/kit and buy a 50mm 1.8 for about $60, already have the 420ex. Isn't that a more than enough for a while?

I've been thinking about this for a while and well I sure love the 20D, I can't justify the $400 diff.

I'm not going out tommorrow and getting one mind you but if prices keep falling who knows.

dbump
23rd of February 2006 (Thu), 15:37
You also have to carry that glass. My current camera bag is not too bad on a reasonably serious off-road bike ride. My neck/back would not deal well with a DSLR and lenses.

BottomBracket
23rd of February 2006 (Thu), 16:52
In my opinion the G-series cameras has a legendary place in Canon's history. It has always offered more features than ordinary P and S digital cameras, and in a small convenient size too. To label it as a P and S camera is a mistake; advanced compact is a more accurate term.

It is sad that Canon has chosen to discontinue this line in lieu of steering people towards dSLR's. It reminds me very much of how rangefinder camera sales dropped when the SLR cameras were developed. And that is exactly how I look at my G6, a sort of digital rangefinder, excellent for street photography, that really complements my dSLR.

Time will tell if Canon is right in its move. I believe that as more people gravitate towards dSLR's, there will always be a market for advanced compacts, even though the demand may be limited. If that holds true, Canon will have to reinvent the G-Series line, unless they are content not to have an advanced compact in its lineup.

glowluzid
23rd of February 2006 (Thu), 16:54
... I will not consider a 'mirror clattering, eye-level only viewfinder'* camera to be a replacement for my G6...

Amen.

That and no mirror lockup on panos, IR live view, twistable covert LCD shooting, smaller form factor, lighter weight and still have RAW and ETTL. Of course, trade is fixed lens, no high ISO, and so forth...

brivett
23rd of February 2006 (Thu), 17:37
I do love my G2.... Good glass, good sensor, good design...

I hate the wifes A610

There will be something else...

Leica are bringing or a digital M series... hmmmm

superkully
23rd of February 2006 (Thu), 22:26
Anyone getting a little deja-vu?

In the seventies Canon, Olympus, Yashica & al. ditched their lovely rangefinders and concentrated on SLRs and cheapo P&Ss. And someone who wanted a quiet shutter, smallness and quality was probably bemoaning like we are here - except they were dancing disco at the same time.

Andy_T
24th of February 2006 (Fri), 04:44
I will be very disappointed if Canon is not going to produce any further "compact" cameras (i.e. non-SLRs with electronic viewfinders) that support RAW.


You get all that in the S series...

Best regards,
Andy

DavidB
24th of February 2006 (Fri), 05:06
You get all that in the S series...
Unfortunately no S-series camera since the S70 has supported RAW. The S80 is JPEG-only.

The G6 (August 2004), S70 (August 2004), and Pro1 (February 2004). Hopefully they're not going to be the last of their breeds!

Sophia
24th of February 2006 (Fri), 14:55
I do love my G2.... Good glass, good sensor, good design...

I hate the wifes A610

There will be something else...

Leica are bringing or a digital M series... hmmmm]

I've seen this movie Europtrip. This guy has this Leica camera that he doesn't want anybody to touch it. What's with this Leica thing? LOL funny

andrewaaa5
24th of February 2006 (Fri), 15:40
And someone who wanted a quiet shutter, smallness and quality was probably bemoaning like we are here - except they were dancing disco at the same time.

...and how do we dance these days? like a robot from 2006?

dbump
24th of February 2006 (Fri), 16:16
That Aibo has a mean moon walk.

superkully
26th of February 2006 (Sun), 11:34
...and how do we dance these days? like a robot from 2006?

Dunno about you, but I'll always dance like a drunk baboon.

cntry
26th of February 2006 (Sun), 20:12
Personally I haven't seen any official release discontinuing the G6. Canon's site was just updated with their new cameras and the G6 is still there.

lefturn99
26th of February 2006 (Sun), 20:40
I think I read something that said Chuck Westfall said that there would not be a new G or Pro series. Not exactly the same as saying it is discontinued, but.........

Andy_T
27th of February 2006 (Mon), 08:31
Unfortunately no S-series camera since the S70 has supported RAW. The S80 is JPEG-only.


Oops, missed that. Bad indeed.

So let's hope Canon engineers the S90 to not only have back the RAW mode, but also the possiblity to mount converter lenses and a flash hotshoe (and the tilt-swivel LCD)...

Best regards,
Andy

BottomBracket
27th of February 2006 (Mon), 08:39
Oops, missed that. Bad indeed.

So let's hope Canon engineers the S90 to not only have back the RAW mode, but also the possiblity to mount converter lenses and a flash hotshoe (and the tilt-swivel LCD)...

That would make it a G-7 :)

Andy_T
27th of February 2006 (Mon), 08:49
That was the idea, right - as they said they would not bring out any more G's :wink:

Only maybe a tad more compact.

Best regards,
Andy

Sophia
27th of February 2006 (Mon), 11:55
Even the G6 at B&H Photo says it's discontinued... Hmmmm...

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=NavBar&A=getItemDetail&Q=&sku=347912&is=REG&si=feat

Sophia
27th of February 2006 (Mon), 11:58
Ok, I've checked other websites too, same thing:) . Is it too soon for Canon to discontinue G6? Or Canon is preparing for new products to be out this season?

dbump
27th of February 2006 (Mon), 12:25
I'd definitely consider that S90--if it had the twist LCD. If it were a touch more compact, it'd seem more like an S than a G. That would be an excellent pairing with a DSLR, given a really fat wallet.

teekay
27th of February 2006 (Mon), 18:54
I must be one of the few ex-G owners who was not very surprised, shocked or even disappointed the G-series was discontinued.

I got a G1 as soon as it came out. It was a fine camera but I chose to replace it (before the infamous fuse blew), with the A95 since that was much lighter and easier to carry than the G6. Plus it had 5mp and better features than my G1 ever had.

I had waited 2 months I would have got the A620 when it came out, but I wish it had a built in ND filter.

I wouldn't ever buy a camera again without a flip screen, so the S-series doesn't cut it.

Regardless, all these cameras are capable of taking fine photos.

FlyingPete
27th of February 2006 (Mon), 20:13
Regardless, all these cameras are capable of taking fine photos.

There is a myth perpetuated mainly by DLSR owners (of compact owners justifying a DSLR :rolleyes: ) that compact digicams don't take decent photos.

This is a lie. As with any tool, it is a matter of knowing how to use it, I shot several weddings, and did a whole pile of other paid work with my G3 whilst my film EOS gathered dust. In fact I have had shots published in several publications shot on my 6 year old Sony P&S :shock: But then I cut my teeth on a fully manual SLR many years back.

It is just a shame that DSLR's have dropped in price so much, and other compacts have got so feature rich that Canon no longer sees a place for the G Series, that in most ways has all the makings of a classic, that will be talked about for years to come...

dbump
28th of February 2006 (Tue), 13:52
There's an update from Photography Blog, in which Canon officials are quoted as saying the G line is not definitely discontinued, despite no current models. Good to know that they haven't abandoned the idea utterly.

http://www.photographyblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/canon_powershot_g_series_cameras_rip/

frs
28th of February 2006 (Tue), 22:03
Its too bad if the G and Pro series will discontinued.
I have a S2 IS now, and i thought the next step would be a G or Pro
since i cant afford the DSLR lenses.

photodd
2nd of March 2006 (Thu), 10:06
The Pro 1 is also to be discontunued:
http://dcresource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17298

...and I was really hoping for the Pro 2 with 28-200/2.8, digicII, quicker write and start-up times...

Andy_T
2nd of March 2006 (Thu), 15:38
This is a lie. As with any tool, it is a matter of knowing how to use it, I shot several weddings, and did a whole pile of other paid work with my G3 whilst my film EOS gathered dust. In fact I have had shots published in several publications shot on my 6 year old Sony P&S :shock: But then I cut my teeth on a fully manual SLR many years back.


Well spoken, lad :lol:

So I may safely assume that when you go on holiday or even on a paid assignment today, you leave your 20D and L lenses at home and just take your G series, right :wink:

Best regards,
Andy