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EricLThomp
6th of February 2006 (Mon), 08:38
http://www.arny.nl/deathvalley/dv_racetrack_0051.jpg

Is this a filter that allows you to photograph the sun without it completely washing everything out of your photo? what would be a typical setting for this kind of photo? (fstop/ISO/shuttertime, etc..)

I'm also looking for overall tips for landscape photos. I'll be taking a trip covering most of the western US in a few months and want to make sure things turn out just right.

Thanks!

PIXI_666
6th of February 2006 (Mon), 08:58
That wouldn't be a CP filter would it? I don't know eithe rim jsut guessing hahaha

Dchemist
6th of February 2006 (Mon), 10:59
This looks to me like a composite of a couple photos -- the sun has been placed into the image. The angle of the shadow behind the raised "clump" at the end of the track is going the wrong direction for the sun where its at in the sky...or am I just nuts? What do you think?

Nice image in any case.

Dennis

cecilc
6th of February 2006 (Mon), 11:13
My guess would be an ND (neutral density) filter or a graduated ND .....

Scottes
6th of February 2006 (Mon), 11:13
The angle of the shadow behind the raised "clump" at the end of the track is going the wrong direction for the sun where its at in the sky...or am I just nuts?
I agree. Looks faked.

RAitch
6th of February 2006 (Mon), 11:16
There seems to be a gradual darkening effect at the top of the image.
Perhaps both shot with a graduated neutral density filter and faked in sun effect.
Looked like a gradND at first though.

FlipsidE
6th of February 2006 (Mon), 12:36
I agree. Looks faked.I agree, too. Looks like, when this photo was taken, the sun was off to the right side of the camera not in front of it. An artificial sun was place in the photo (either from another photo or something generated in an image creation program).

EricLThomp
6th of February 2006 (Mon), 14:05
so you think it best to not even attempt to directly photograph the sun then? not even with a filter?

rudgej
6th of February 2006 (Mon), 14:07
so you think it best to not even attempt to directly photograph the sun then? not even with a filter?
I wouldn't recommend peering at the sun, but you can take photos of e.g. sunsets without any special filters. You can also get filters such as Cokin's Neutral Density NDX filter which is specifically designed for solar photography.

RAitch
6th of February 2006 (Mon), 15:01
You can shoot into the sun, but you'll have to choose if you want a totally blown out sky or totally dark foreground (silouette - sp?) since the light range is so huge.

You'll either have to blend multiple exposures (one for foreground objects, one for sky and sun) or use a graduated ND filter to try to do it automatically with a 50-50 split.
Even sometimes with the ND filter I'd expect the sun to be too much.

You won't get that much colour and dynamic range shooting into the sun without SOME KIND of special technique. Into the sun and across the sun can make for some cool B&W shots.

PIXI_666
6th of February 2006 (Mon), 18:23
I spent ages on one sunset a few months back, i came back blinded with little dots in my eyes and this orange glaze over everything LOL

Dchemist
6th of February 2006 (Mon), 19:29
Hi Eric,

You certianly can take a photo of the sun as was done in the photo you posted -- it was just done seperately from the foreground. You would somehow need to cut down on the brightness if you are going to photograph it directly -- maybe a small aperature would be enough most lenses will permit F22 some F32 -- but I have no direct knowledge of this. I have been tempted to purchase a neutral density filter -- B+W makes them that filter the light and are desigened to "look the sun" (as rudgej pointed out). Check out this website:

http://www.schneideroptics.com/filters/filters_for_still_photography/neutral_density/

at the bottom of the page is the B+W120 designed for this purpose.

Dennis

SQUAREROOT
6th of February 2006 (Mon), 20:21
Funny you PIXI_666! hehehe

Cheers!
Square

Hellashot
6th of February 2006 (Mon), 20:33
Looked very computer made/edited/compiled.

Radtech1
6th of February 2006 (Mon), 21:22
This looks to me like a composite of a couple photos -- the sun has been placed into the image. The angle of the shadow behind the raised "clump" at the end of the track is going the wrong direction for the sun where its at in the sky...or am I just nuts? What do you think?

Nice image in any case.

Dennis

I disagree with the "fake" suspicion - if "fake" is defined as "the sun is imported from another shot and was not actually in the same frame as the rock when the shot of the rock was taken."

I do agree that the shooter may have bracketed the exposure and blended it that way. I also suspect that a strong polarizing filter was used as evidenced by the circular dimming of the reflected sunlight off the floor with distance.

In any event, I believe that the Rock and the Sun were both in the FOV at the time that the shutter was pressed. My evidence for that is the curvature of the horizon. (I am surprised that I was the first one to notice this.) Seems he was using a fairly wide angle lens. With straight lines becoming curved - as they do with a wide angle lens - it is not only possible, but very most likely that the shot (sun/rock) positions were not fabricated.

Rad

Skippy29
7th of February 2006 (Tue), 23:26
What Sun? That's the Moon people, long exposure night shot.

Tsmith
7th of February 2006 (Tue), 23:47
They did an article on one of the photo web sites (can't remember which one) about those mysterious rocks that seem to crawl ... http://www.billandcori.com/deathvalley/dv_moving_rocks.htm