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Eolo
15th of July 2003 (Tue), 15:19
Hello, I have just carried out copies in paper of pictures taken with the G3 (I already sold it) and my recent one 10D.... what I alert myself was that the best definition and coloring notices it in the G3.
The pictures taken with 10D the colors are very, very natural... almost laundries and weak, my lens is a Canon 28-135 IS.... has it passed some of you?
I understand that the G3 makes be worth its lens 2.0, but the difference is remarkable, I will be bad using my D-SLR, I will prove adjusting contrast and shine... but in principle I am very sad with the performance since had big expectations with my new camera, it is quick, it is very good camera but...
I am not a photographer beginner, I have had Eos 50e, Elan 7, Sony Mavica, G3, at the moment I have an Eos 3 with 550 ex. and lens Canon.

Thank you for their attention

RichardtheSane
15th of July 2003 (Tue), 17:01
The difference is the G3 makes in-camera ajustments to the contrast, sharpness and saturation, so the image straight out of the camera more pleasing to the eye.
The 10D isn't designed to do that as it was not intended for the point an shoot consumer for whom this feature would have any use.

rdenney
15th of July 2003 (Tue), 21:20
RichardtheSane wrote:
The difference is the G3 makes in-camera ajustments to the contrast, sharpness and saturation, so the image straight out of the camera more pleasing to the eye.
The 10D isn't designed to do that as it was not intended for the point an shoot consumer for whom this feature would have any use.

You are not Richard the Sane, you are Richard the Psychic. I could hardly make any sense of the message.

We should ask Pekka to emblazon it across the top fo the forum: The 10D makes relatively flat, relatively soft images so that you'll have all of what you need in Photoshop. If the image is too flat, bump up the contrast. If the image is too contrasty, there is nothing you can do because highlights and shadows may be lost. And it's a lot easier to apply sharpening than it is to remove too much of it.

It's a difference in philosophy, as you point out. The 10D is made with the expectation of post-processing, while the G2 is intended to be plugged right into the printer.

Of course, one can always go into the 10D menu and turn up the contrast, saturation, and sharpness, though it still won't be as high as a G2.

Rick "who usually manages non-English English a bit better" Denney

CyberDyneSystems
16th of July 2003 (Wed), 00:26
Richard,.. Good work with the Universal Translator Mister Spock lent you :D

Eolo,...

Many people have had the same feelings when going from G3 to a 10D. You are not alone. However,. stick with it. You are now used to one thing. But it doesn't mean that what you are used to was better.

Give it some time and you will see. :)

Eolo
16th of July 2003 (Wed), 07:46
Thanks to you, thank you also for the patience to understand each other to me and the Translator Pro...
I supposed that the washed image was to be able to work with the PS but it takes, but what one goes in the monitor of the PC is not always similar to the printed image... it is necessary to throw a lot of paper and it proves and error...
"is the essential thing invisible to the eyes?"

Mario de Argentina.

nucki
17th of July 2003 (Thu), 09:06
Hi there!

You all are right. on the one hand, its true the G2/G3 makes picutures with more saturation and sharpness. On the other hand, if I postprocessing an image today, there are so many ways to adjust contrast, sharpness and whatever. I think the days are over where you shot the picture and then have to be sadisfied with what you got.
Now you be able to adjust, do a little here and a little there. as pekka said in one of his posts, the EOS10D is the highest recomended D-SLR ever. and its a great camera, but its not a point and shot camera, also if you really have done a good job in aranging and lightning, maybe you are sadisfied, but just try to postprocess in PS or something maybe you got a better picture as thought.

regards
Peter