PS7 winking cropped images

[ajax]

I'm a cropping fool--using both the cropping tool or the rectangle marquee tool to draw the square and selecting IMAGE | CROP.

Some email recipients of my photos can somehow see the pre-cropped image.

Any ideas why?

Can I make it so they cannot see the unedited version?

Thanks.

Ajax
[the PS7 blunderer]

[Conk]

That's too weird. Can you send me an example?
c0nk@hotmail.com Remember it has to be under 300 k.

[Don Ellis]

Obvious questions: You are resaving the file after cropping, yes? And you are sending the cropped file rather than the original?

Whenever I crop, I rename the file, adding a "cr2" or "cr3" for "crop#2" or "crop#3." I also rename when I resize, so I might have a file called "crw1288cr2-800.jpg." Helps me see at a glance what I'm dealing with.

Just a thought.

Don

[ajax]

Sure, Colin, I'll send you a small example or two later this evening. I was just poking around Photoshop a bit...I think this is related [rather than do a reaaaally long message here]:

the saga continues (http://home.comcast.net/~atticus.oh.atticus/sweetpea-strange.htm)

[ajax]

Don, yep, if the photo is worthy of keeping, I keep the virgin copy with the original name, and resave the cropped and/or edited file with a new name.

[Guillermo Freige]

Just a idea:
As part of the EXIF data, a thumbnail of the image is saved in this area. Photoshop preserves EXIF data, but, as far as I know, it don't recreates the thumbnail, so even if the picture is cropped, the EXIF thumbnail still is the whole image. Some programs uses that thumbnail present in the EXIF data to preview the picture, so it can happend you are still viewing the pre-crop image. Of course, when you open the full image, the correct cropped one is displayed.

Just my 2 cents

[ajax]

Guillermo: Oh, then maybe my BROWSE oddity isn't related?

It's odd, because a few times people have commented on things that weren't in my photo and I didn't think much of it.

As a lark, I sent someone on another forum my photo [he asked for it], but cropped out only my eyes and sent a wee photo. He wrote back and asked about the scenery behind me; he commented on how tall my husband is, all sorts of things that were in the original photo and this is what I sent him:

http://www.oopsmytiaraslipped.com/gonesoon/peek.jpg

(as an aside, that photo is in a garbage directory so will probably disapear before long)

[henkbos]

This might have to do with the Adobe cache. Try purging the cache.

In general: if you save A and send A the recipient will see A. If you managed to violate this rule, you'll be a milionair soon.

[ajax]

I'm going to be a millionaire? Wow.

Seriously, I have never cleared my Adobe cache, so I suspect that is it. I've roamed around and cannot find that command anywhere [*sigh* I feel like a dolt].

My cache level is set to 4; my "use cache for histograms" option is unchecked.

[henkbos]

From Adobe Help:

Purging the cache

The cache stores thumbnail and file information to make loading times quicker when you return to a previously viewed folder. To purge the cache and free disk space, choose Purge Cache from the palette menu.

Note: Purging the cache deletes ranking and thumbnail information.

[ajax]

Henk, thanks...I found that in HELP, but, I haven't found it in the software yet. I'm plugging away.

[ajax]

Whew...I found the PURGE CACHE function and I've purged and I'm still getting the thumbnail oddity described above.

I'm about ready to give up the ghost...guess I'll just live with this little oddity and work under the assumption that people might/will be able to see the "virgin" file even if it appears edited to me.

[Guillermo Freige]

ajax:
try the following:

- open the picture
- save the picture as a bmp
- close the original picture
- open the bmp
- resave it as a jpg (with a different name)
- send this new jpeg

bmp pictures have no EXIF data, so all thumbnail oddities are lost saving as bmp. So if you use the bmp copy and regenerate a jpg, no original EXIF data is preserved (lost in the previous bmp generation) so no "old image ghost" can be present.

[ajax]

Thanks so much, Guillermo, I will certainly try that. I appreciate the tip.