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Moppie
14th of February 2006 (Tue), 16:01
I mentioned this on the weekend at Scotts, coming up on Sunday 26th of March the company I work for is having a big golf Tournament with Sponsors, customers, family companies etc.

I have offered to be the events formal photographer, and so I don't have to use my little A80 have aquired $200 to borrow some gear.

I would like to borrow, please, if anyone trusts me and would like a little extra cash:
1x 20D
1X Flash
1x Nifty 50
1x Wide angle, maybe a 10-22 (tony?) or a kit lens?
1x Telephoto, maybe up to 200mm?
1x Sundrys, batteries, CF cards to match the 20D, XS Drive, Tripod etc?
I would also of course need a bag to keep it all safe in.


So far John has offered to lend me his 20D, and lens which are I think the 28-135 and 80-200.
And Matt has also offered me his 300D and a lens.



Havn't worked out who to devide up the $200, but Im sure we can all work out something.

And of course the terms will be very simple, if I break it I buy it.

Idealy I would like to collect all the gear together on the friday night so I can familiarise myself with it on Saturday, then return it on Sunday/Monday depending on when we finnish. So you will be with it for a whole weekend, but there should be enough cash to drink away the sorrow :)

joeseph
14th of February 2006 (Tue), 16:43
PM sent

Moppie
14th of February 2006 (Tue), 17:26
A very generous offer from Duncan, thank you.

dgcorner
14th of February 2006 (Tue), 18:33
Moppie, PM is not working. You can borrow my whole kit (20D, 24-70, nifty, porta-storage, Tripod, monopod, etc., etc.) -- and you can put my proceeds into a GKPE fund.

After using Tim's calibration thingy, it might be a good idea to buy one for us up in Auckland... the calibration has done wonders!

FlyingPete
14th of February 2006 (Tue), 21:54
I have worth borrowing: flash cards (1GB), portabel drive (60GB), nifty fifty, 70-200 f/2.8 420EX and a 20D, take your pic :D

weka2000
14th of February 2006 (Tue), 23:39
Let me know what you need.

GKPE motto "we dont buy we borrow"

I like the GKPE fund idea and a calibration kit would be useful

scotttnz
15th of February 2006 (Wed), 22:37
Hmmmmm.......I have a macro.....do you need any close ups og golf balls?

FlyingPete
15th of February 2006 (Wed), 23:19
Hmmmmm.......I have a macro.....do you need any close ups og golf balls?

Actually that would make for a cool shot, picture this, a closeup of the golf ball on the ground with the players nicely out of focus in the background, angle of image would be ground level pointing up, so hard to do without a flip screen ;)

Moppie
15th of February 2006 (Wed), 23:57
LOL!

I can see it now, I show up with $10,000 worth of other peoples kit, proceed to take several hundred photos with it, and the one really good one is the one I take with little A80 in the spur of the moment :)


Thanks for the insperation by the way, I might have to give it a go :cool:

joeseph
16th of February 2006 (Thu), 00:34
Nifty goes golfing?

Moppie
16th of February 2006 (Thu), 00:36
Nifty goes golfing?


I thought of that, but by march Nifty will heading around North America.

Prehaps is close Cousin can go instead :)

Wazza
16th of February 2006 (Thu), 13:02
My gear is always available to lend to friends here, as long as if it's broke, it gets repaired. :D

Unfortunately, on this date, for about 3 days, I'll be photographing AUT Graduation ceremony, and arranging portrait shots, and throwing of the hats etc. :confused:

dgcorner
16th of February 2006 (Thu), 14:07
Unfortunately, on this date, for about 3 days, I'll be photographing AUT Graduation ceremony, and arranging portrait shots, and throwing of the hats etc. :confused:

Good luck, I'm sure that it will be heaps of fun!!! I'm sure Kirst will be able to crack the whip and put those new grads in line:D :D :D

iKirst
16th of February 2006 (Thu), 17:33
All I can offer is my Jenova Camera bag for storage, if you need it, Moppie.
I think you may remember it's size.. I'll try find a decent pic online.

All the other flash camera bits and pieces, I'm sadly lacking. Unless you want to borrow the kit lens?

iKirst
16th of February 2006 (Thu), 17:33
Good luck, I'm sure that it will be heaps of fun!!! I'm sure Kirst will be able to crack the whip and put those new grads in line:D :D :D
Hah - That's if I'll even be there..

MattL
18th of February 2006 (Sat), 03:45
Take what you like: 300d/grip, flash cards, 580ex, 18-55mm 90-300mm, monopod.

Ill take whatever your offering in return.

Moppie
12th of March 2006 (Sun), 21:13
Ok, March 29th is approaching fast, so I have had a look at the very generous selection of gear being offered, and have narrowed down my selection, which given the variety was very hard to do.

Ill send out some PM's, and hopefully I can start collecting what I need this weekend, so I have a week to get used to it. I understand totaly of course if people don't want to part with thier gear untill the saturday before hand. It not fun to be with out your favourite bit of kit when you need it.


Im not sure what to do with the money my company has allocated however, it has been suggested by a few people that we pool the money together and use it to get a Monitor calibration kit?
Otherwise Im quite happy to devide up amonst the people I borrow kit from.

MattL
12th of March 2006 (Sun), 22:06
200 smackers wont buy us much of a calibration kit, unfortunatly. Also, in your inital post you mentioned Sun the 26th, now the 29th? Im good either way - although 25th is my birthday.

forsaken
12th of March 2006 (Sun), 23:10
Sorry Mr Moppie but I can't lend you my kit as I will be shooting the D1NZ Drift School on the 26th :)

Moppie
12th of March 2006 (Sun), 23:22
Your right Mat, Im getting my dates wrong, it is the 26th, I have a Health and safety meeting on the 26th :) (not much to shoot there).


Simon, VERY COOL! Get nice and close, and shoot at the 18 end :D

weka2000
12th of March 2006 (Sun), 23:25
So for the calabration kit. Im sure we could all chip in to fill the gap.

Moppie
12th of March 2006 (Sun), 23:28
Well to those Im borrowing gear from who are interested in the money (and I know what its like to need it, so don't be ashamed) just say so in a PM, Ill keep it quite.
Then whats left, if not everyone wants a share, we can look at putting towards something?

Im not borrowing kit from everybody, so if everyone put something in, say $20 Im sure we could get there.
But, we have to deciede who looks after it first, I had a chat with Pete about this the other day.

weka2000
12th of March 2006 (Sun), 23:38
We should all put in. Lets face it the only person that should not put in is the person who has never got anything out of our group.

forsaken
12th of March 2006 (Sun), 23:43
Your right Mat, Im getting my dates wrong, it is the 26th, I have a Health and safety meeting on the 26th :) (not much to shoot there).


Simon, VERY COOL! Get nice and close, and shoot at the 18 end :D

I don't think they would like me impersonating the apex of the corner :)

Moppie
12th of March 2006 (Sun), 23:57
I don't think drift drivers know what an APEX is :p


I would be very surprised if there is someone who hasn't gotten something out of the GKPE meets.

MattL
13th of March 2006 (Mon), 00:05
Your right Mat, Im getting my dates wrong, it is the 26th, I have a Health and safety meeting on the 26th :) (not much to shoot there).


Simon, VERY COOL! Get nice and close, and shoot at the 18 end :D

Moppie, perhaps we should buy you a calender with the money. Do you have the golf game on the 26th, or the Health and safety meeting on the 26th? :P

forsaken
13th of March 2006 (Mon), 00:27
maybe health and safety meeting is code for golf game.

who knows with these corporate types?

joeseph
13th of March 2006 (Mon), 00:37
Moppie, perhaps we should buy you a calender with the money. Do you have the golf game on the 26th, or the Health and safety meeting on the 26th? :P

LOL! for the record, the 26th March is a Sunday (according to the calender I have)

dgcorner
13th of March 2006 (Mon), 16:25
Moppie, perhaps we should buy you a calender with the money. Do you have the golf game on the 26th, or the Health and safety meeting on the 26th? :P

Probably got shredded with the last of the documents...

Moppie
15th of March 2006 (Wed), 04:18
I found a 20D today, went round to a random house in sandringham, walked in the door and someone just gave me 20D with a 24-70 L on it :D

Iv spent all night playing with it, works very well, learning a lot about how it works to.
Ill see what else I can find over the rest of the week :)

weka2000
15th of March 2006 (Wed), 04:50
I found a 20D today, went round to a random house in sandringham, walked in the door and someone just gave me 20D with a 24-70 L on it :D

Iv spent all night playing with it, works very well, learning a lot about how it works to.
Ill see what else I can find over the rest of the week :)

Thats a great house that one. Scott has the 10-20.
Oh scott my 2xTC works well with the swaped lens
may just need to do a strait swap :rolleyes:

Moppie
15th of March 2006 (Wed), 12:37
Scott has the 10-20.


Thank you very much, it saves me a trip out your way.
However, I wouldn't mind having another sunset shoot out there one eveing next week, if we can get there early enough? (daylight savings and all).

Moppie
20th of March 2006 (Mon), 04:42
I have to give a Massive thank you to everyone for lending me bit and pieces of thier gear :)
You all know who you are, and every little or big bit is a big help, I just hope one day Im in a position to return the favour.

I now have
1 x 20D
1 x 24-70L
1 x 70-200L
1 x 10-20
1x Nifty Fifty
1 x 75-300 complete with rattle
1 x 580 EX flash
1 x spare battery
1 x 10gig portable drive
3 x 1gig CF cards
1 x Manfrotto Tripod and Monopod
1 x Lowpro bag


If that isn't close to the ultimate set up I don't know what it is, its also VERY heavy, I know my arms are going to get a good work out on Sunday.


Thanks again, Im somewhat over whelmed by the generosity of everybody.


If everyone agrees then I thought I might use the money from work to pay for everyones Ferry tickets, and I do mean every POTN member that shows up, even those who didn't lend me kit, which isn't many. Anything left I will then put towards lunch, and maybe dinner if theres still some left.

MattL
20th of March 2006 (Mon), 04:47
Haha. I hope non-kiwi members are reading this. If you ever had any doubts about kiwis being nice friendly people, just look at that list!

You must have set a record for having borrowd the most gear. Anyone care to add up the dollar value?

weka2000
20th of March 2006 (Mon), 04:48
You will need a golf cart with all that.

In2Photos
20th of March 2006 (Mon), 10:18
Haha. I hope non-kiwi members are reading this. If you ever had any doubts about kiwis being nice friendly people, just look at that list!

You must have set a record for having borrowd the most gear. Anyone care to add up the dollar value?

I have been reading since day 1 and I agree that you guys all seem very nice. To lend Moppie all that gear is very inspiring. I hope he has fun and all goes well.

joeseph
20th of March 2006 (Mon), 14:54
1 x 75-300 complete with rattle
Eh? I don't remember loaning you a rattle! we may have to charge more for that... ;)

scotttnz
20th of March 2006 (Mon), 15:43
If that isn't close to the ultimate set up I don't know what it is, its also VERY heavy, I know my arms are going to get a good work out on Sunday.


Thanks again, Im somewhat over whelmed by the generosity of everybody.


If everyone agrees then I thought I might use the money from work to pay for everyones Ferry tickets, and I do mean every POTN member that shows up, even those who didn't lend me kit, which isn't many. Anything left I will then put towards lunch, and maybe dinner if theres still some left.


The hard part is going to be getting you to give it all back!

How much are they paying? there might be a lot of people at GKPE 3 given that Pete's letter got published in the latest DPhoto mag.

Moppie
20th of March 2006 (Mon), 15:45
Well Im getting $200, thats enough for I think 10 people. So far we havn't had more than 7 on an expedition.

But your right, Petes letter might attract a bit more attention.
How, about Ill pay for everyone whos currently a member, and whats left goes to first come first served :)

dgcorner
20th of March 2006 (Mon), 15:58
The hard part is going to be getting you to give it all back!

I don't think Tony answered Moppie's question re: 20D hire purchase... :lol: After playing with, and getting used to all those toys Moppie may start seriously thinking about getting an SLR:D

Moppie
20th of March 2006 (Mon), 16:20
I may start seriously thinking about how to pay for an SLR, Iv been wanting one for a long time :D

The problem will be paying for a house at the same time.....

weka2000
20th of March 2006 (Mon), 21:21
I may start seriously thinking about how to pay for an SLR, Iv been wanting one for a long time :D

The problem will be paying for a house at the same time.....

Add it to the morgage :)

iKirst
20th of March 2006 (Mon), 21:29
Top up the mortgage, add a car and an SLR ...to the mix.

That's not to say there is anything wrong with either your current camera, or your car, but home mortgages have a nicer interest rate than finance companies (unless it's an interest free jobbie..)

dgcorner
20th of March 2006 (Mon), 21:44
. . .(unless it's an interest free jobbie..)

No such thing.;) All these interest free deals that you come across have the interest calculated into the mix. If you have the cash, walk up to anyone and offer them cash for a discount and they will offer you between 10-15% (or more) off the price... If they don't move to the next store.

I've done this many times and have come out better off. However, there have been times when the "interest free" offers have come in handy... not bad actually if you want to pay something off slowly.

I've been in sales too long so please excuse my cynicism:lol: :lol: :lol:

forsaken
21st of March 2006 (Tue), 00:00
thats quite a collection there Moppie. Enjoy your time with it

scotttnz
21st of March 2006 (Tue), 00:28
If you have the cash, walk up to anyone and offer them cash for a discount and they will offer you between 10-15% (or more) off the price... If they don't move to the next store.

Some retailers will not do this because it is illegal. By law any difference in price between the cash price and credit price is interest. (Or at least that is how it was when I worked for Noel Leeming many years ago!) So if the retailer advertised something for say $5000 interest free for 2 years. Then you negotiate it down to $4500 cash, you could then turn around and say "great. I'll have it for $4500 interest free". Otherwise you can have them for false advertising as they are advertising it as interest free, when in fact they are charging you $500 interest. That was close to 10 years ago of course, so things may have changed, but the commerse commission was always going atfer retailers for this sort of thing. Generally the retailers that don't do interest free deals have got better prices anyway.

Anyway Moppie, someone in the group has to be first with a 30D, it might as well be you. Just make sure you budget for some good glass too!

weka2000
21st of March 2006 (Tue), 00:31
Anyway Moppie, someone in the group has to be first with a 30D, it might as well be you. Just make sure you budget for some good glass too!

I like been first :lol:

Good glass is a must. Sigma F2.8 series 24-70, 700-200, 120-300, 150 Macro all rate very high often sharpest in their class and it dosnt kill the bank.

Moppie
21st of March 2006 (Tue), 02:07
Just make sure you budget for some good glass too!

What are you talking about? Iv got a great collection of glass


*inbackground*yes, thats one way to Costa Rica please*inbackground*

weka2000
21st of March 2006 (Tue), 02:20
*inbackground*yes, thats one way to Costa Rica please*inbackground*

I removed my comment about make sure you get moppie's passport because I thought it was to cheeky :)

joeseph
21st of March 2006 (Tue), 02:53
What are you talking about? Iv got a great collection of glass
and rattles apparently! ;)

Moppie
21st of March 2006 (Tue), 04:11
I removed my comment about make sure you get moppie's passport because I thought it was to cheeky :)

I found that quite amuzing :)
If I could afford to skip the country I wouldn't have to borrow gear :cool:


The Rattles Im going to keep though ;)

Moppie
26th of March 2006 (Sun), 21:39
What a day it was!

I have all gear nice and safe and dry though :)

If anyone wants it back tonight please let me know and Ill drop it of, otherwise I may work late, and make some rounds on tuesday and wednesday.


But, we now need to deciede what to do with the $200.

Im still happy to pay ferry crossings, but there is also the suggestion of some webspace, or a sub forum here and a donation to Peka.

iKirst
26th of March 2006 (Sun), 21:44
I think the $200 should stay in your possession, Moppie. It was paid to you for your efforts, by your company (from what I gather re: general ramblings). Reap the rewards! All of them!

Mind you, I was not a lender of said equipment, so that decision is totally not mine to make :lol:

dgcorner
26th of March 2006 (Sun), 21:46
Web space and a donation to Peter/Peka would be good... after all, we've been burning the lines and taking up HD space with all our posts... any left over can go to snacks for the trip... my thoughts anyway... ;-)

Moppie
26th of March 2006 (Sun), 22:24
I was given the money in order to "hire" gear :D

So Im going to use it for something at least those who lent me gear can benifit from.
Being the generous bunch everyone is, it would appear they are all willing for it to be something we can all benifit from :)

iKirst
26th of March 2006 (Sun), 22:27
Ooh - I didn't realise that!
Well, it should benefit those that aided your appeal, Moppie :)

weka2000
26th of March 2006 (Sun), 22:31
So do get to see any photos?

dgcorner
27th of March 2006 (Mon), 01:19
Echo... So do we get to see any photos? ... echo.... ;-)

NordieBoy
27th of March 2006 (Mon), 01:59
...photos...photos...photos...

dgcorner
27th of March 2006 (Mon), 02:53
Fran -- I like your new avatar!

NordieBoy
27th of March 2006 (Mon), 03:30
There's 3 more penguins and a pooh as well :D

Moppie
27th of March 2006 (Mon), 04:05
Hmmmm, so do you want to see some photos?

weka2000
27th of March 2006 (Mon), 04:25
Hmmmm, so do you want to see some photos?

Id rather see some money :lol:

Moppie
27th of March 2006 (Mon), 04:34
LOL!!!

Do you take a check?

Thanks for the conditions of sale by the way, I bet Scott is dying to have a play with his very cool lens :)

weka2000
27th of March 2006 (Mon), 04:47
LOL!!!

Do you take a check?

Thanks for the conditions of sale by the way, I bet Scott is dying to have a play with his very cool lens :)

Cheque fine. Everything is packed cleaned and formated. Im home all week with the girls mums back on nights T,W,T hope its fine Friday waterfalls :lol:

forsaken
27th of March 2006 (Mon), 04:50
oh oh oh is Moppie buying your old 20D Tony?

Moppie
27th of March 2006 (Mon), 04:53
We might have bought a house today, scary!

Will see if I have any money left after we're moved in.
A new 30D is looking very tempting to.

forsaken
27th of March 2006 (Mon), 04:55
congrats on the house if it goes through. What area is it?

weka2000
27th of March 2006 (Mon), 04:58
We might have bought a house today, scary!

Will see if I have any money left after we're moved in.
A new 30D is looking very tempting to.

Get the camera you want. I did :)

Downloaded the 1D MK2 N users manual today bit of light reading......... waterfalls can get a bit wet.

forsaken
27th of March 2006 (Mon), 05:04
I can say with 100% certianty that the 20D handles showers reasonably well, wouldn't want to risk it much but it was good to find out

Moppie
27th of March 2006 (Mon), 05:05
LOL!

Maybe I should hold out for a cheap 5D ;)

The house is in Highland park, not far form where I currently live.

forsaken
27th of March 2006 (Mon), 05:06
didn't think you'd want to leave East Auckland

weka2000
27th of March 2006 (Mon), 05:11
LOL!

Maybe I should hold out for a cheap 5D ;)



yes 1D when I get a consistant wow responce from wazza then I will have to buy only L glass. Need to make some money from the 5D first didnt make any from the 20D, mind you didnt take many photos.

Living in south auckland and driving under 2K cars has its good points.

Moppie
27th of March 2006 (Mon), 15:15
didn't think you'd want to leave East Auckland

East Auckland is a bit of a cultural hole, unless you like lowered Jap imports with loud exhausts and consider sitting in traffic a cultural experiance.
Amanda however feels differently, and, this place is walking distance to her work, which will have its advantages :)

It goes unconditional wednesday next week, so its going to be a fun weeking, getting a LIM and builders reports, talking to the Mortgage broker etc.

iKirst
27th of March 2006 (Mon), 15:46
Luck!

dgcorner
27th of March 2006 (Mon), 17:06
East Auckland is a bit of a cultural hole, unless you like lowered Jap imports with loud exhausts and consider sitting in traffic a cultural experiance.
Amanda however feels differently, and, this place is walking distance to her work, which will have its advantages :)

It goes unconditional wednesday next week, so its going to be a fun weeking, getting a LIM and builders reports, talking to the Mortgage broker etc.

Moppie, have you thought of getting a professional building inspector? I think they cost a couple hundred bucks but well worth it. I was too new in the country before realising that there were such services... it would have saved me heaps to know that my fireplace was in condemnedable condition then, and that the roof needed re-surfacing or changed... I could have gottent he owners to do it before going unconditional...:confused: Just my thoughts...

As for being a cultural hole... probably... but I love the 5 minute access to the beach and living in a culturally varied environment... though I find that there is more tolerance from "Kiwis" rather than among migrants themselves... funny that...

Moppie
27th of March 2006 (Mon), 17:14
Amandas father is an Electrition, he knows lots of builders, and one has already agreeded to do an inspection for us, for a very good price :)

Im surprised the agent didn't suggest you get a building a report, its standard fare along with a LIM report when buying a house in NZ.

dgcorner
27th of March 2006 (Mon), 17:20
Good, it will save you some grief.

As for the building report, I do sometimes wonder why the agent didn't bother... but all that is water under the bridge. At least I know better -- we all learn something new each day... whether we know it or not;-)

forsaken
27th of March 2006 (Mon), 23:46
luck mate

dgcorner
28th of March 2006 (Tue), 04:04
Moppie, PM me when you feel like dropping by with the gear. No rush. Just thought I'd answer your query some few posts back ;-)