Could Canon be holding back on another DSLR to be released this month?

[JBF]

Wondering if any of you think there could be another release during PMA this month. Could there be a 10 megapixel SLR that will be annnounced later this week or even next week?

[GSH]

Yep, there could be :)

Then again......

[Bodog]

There's an awfully big pricing gap between the new 30d and the 5d. The 30d certainly is not the expected response to the d200 either in price or specs. Maybe not this month but most certainly soon there will be a 3d.

[Mike_B]

Yep, you may well be right. Judging by the 30D response to date people probably would embrace warmnly a "3D" over the enhancement 20D. It would be a great marketing ploy.

[Cathpah]

yeah I must say, I think the price gap between the 30D and the 5D (around $1700) is a telltale sign that they will be releasing something else and hopefully soon. Aside from the full frame difference and a bit of a buffer difference, they are pretty much the same camera.

Considering the 5D is supposedly not selling as well as Canon had hoped, would they really make it so you can buy two 30D's for LESS than the price of one 5D? There has got to be a camera coming in the $2000 dollar range to keep the lineup flowing smoothly...maybe a full frame with 10 megapixels?

damn....that'd be downright dreamy.....

[Rumjungle]

I'd love to see a 1.3 crop, 10mp, 6fps, with 21-point AF. Bring it on!

[dengli]

Interesting to note that Canon have aligned the 30D with their corresponding EOS 30 film camera. Perhaps they're re-designing their product range and could be looking at a 3D. The next 350D could be the 3000D.

Interesting to note also that the EOS 5 was lower spec than the EOS 3 film cameras. Perhaps we might see a 50D instead.

[adamsti]

This seems to come up at every model intro. In one word NO. Later this year at Photokina, maybe, but later this week at this months show. NO.

[Tom W]

I can't stop strokin' the rumour mill! :P

A poster on DPReview that DID accurately predict the 30D, 85/1.2 II, and 17-55 lens also said that some kind of new "low-priced 5D" would be out before the World Cup.

Grain of salt, as usual....

I'm not too concerned.

[Rob612]

Considering the 5D is supposedly not selling as well as Canon had hoped,

Interesting. How can you tell, if I may ask ? I see a lot of 5D around here and almost none of the majors stores has more than 2 or 3 pieces at a time, due to the demand.

[.me]

JBF, that's what I am hoping for - those were carrots fot the donkey, the real treat is comming right up (after the 26th) :D

[Tom W]

Interesting. How can you tell, if I may ask ? I see a lot of 5D around here and almost none of the majors stores has more than 2 or 3 pieces at a time, due to the demand.

I agree, and I think that a lot of the perception that the 5D isn't selling as well as Canon would like stems from a few anecdotal claims that volley about the internet (DPR, for example) that state that this store or that store has 5D's collecting dust on the shelf. I'm certain that the 5D isn't a huge seller, since its price is beyond the level of sanity for most people (myself excluded), but I don't think Canon's expectations of sales are extremely high. They probably expect to sell 100 times the number of 30D's as 5D's.

[Rob612]

I agree, and I think that a lot of the perception that the 5D isn't selling as well as Canon would like stems from a few anecdotal claims that volley about the internet (DPR, for example) that state that this store or that store has 5D's collecting dust on the shelf. I'm certain that the 5D isn't a huge seller, since its price is beyond the level of sanity for most people (myself excluded), but I don't think Canon's expectations of sales are extremely high. They probably expect to sell 100 times the number of 30D's as 5D's.

Probably the same ratio applies to the 5D vs 1Ds... I am almost sure that Canon does not expect enormous numbers from those bodies. From a financial point of view, 350D and 20D are the true battlehorses, I think, not to mention the P&S. That's where the money is, at least in the photo division.

[.me]

To me, i think 5d for what it is - its priced correctly. i mean i spent this money without hesitation...

and i think that there would be something like (3D) so i can sell my 5D on ebay, and get a 3D

[roanjohn]

NOPE!!!

Ro1

[aam1234]

NOPE!!!

Ro1

Nope = no 3D?

[.me]

NOPE!!!

Ro1

why not?
350 - $850
20 - $1200
30 - $1300
--------advanced amatures ^^^^^^

Sort-of-pros
5D - 3000
1dmkiiN - 4000
1dsmkII - 7000

[willg]

1ds: pro high res/full frame
5d: baby 1ds

1d: pro high speed
30d: baby 1d

350d amature/entry level SLR

I don't see where the 3d or any other camera would fit in besides the price point. a high speed 1.3x for <$2000 might do well. Then move the 30d to amature with the 350d being the baby 30d

[roanjohn]

Nope = no 3D?

Maybe next year.............PMA.

I really doubt Canon will introduce something else..........this is not thier standard practice. They usually announce everything at once...........

HOWEVER, I really wouldn't mind if they have more up thier sleeves......

Hope for the better, expect the worst............MOTTO??

:-)

Ro1

[aam1234]

Thanks Roan. But just to clarify, will the 3D be positioned between 1DsII & 5D or between 30D & 5D. Any idea.

[roanjohn]

Thanks Roan. But just to clarify, will the 3D be positioned between 1DsII & 5D or between 30D & 5D. Any idea.

It will replace 5D...............for sure. Notice the name 5D - 3D - 1D.

Ro1

[aam1234]

Thanks.

[cjm]

Doubt it but you never know. Seems like Canon releases around 3 DSLR's every year.

[JohnnyG]

In my opinion, the annoucement of the 30D was a statement that it's a great camera and hard to improve on so they basically didn't.

EF-S is the other statement they made meaning that EF-S is not going away any time soon as rumored.

I expected an answer to Nikon on the 200 this time but not using the 20D as the base to upgrade. I think they're going to come in somewhere between the 30D and 5D as others here are predicting.

The 20D is too fine a camera to replace and sells too many to give up. That's why the 30D!

[.me]

dammit, the 26th.. no 3D... boo you canon!
ps. i am not impressed with sample pictures for 30d..

[Jackal]

I highly doubt Canon has another SLR to release. If so...then I probably won't care since it'll be too expensive for me. =)

i am not impressed with sample pictures for 30d..

Are you not impressed with any images taken with it's identical twin.....the 20D?

Not sure why you expected a jump in image quality. As it is you can't tell apart shots from a 350D and a 1dsmkII on 6x4 prints or at a normal web size of let's say.....800xsomething.

[.me]

I was talking about this.. maybe the lens made all the diffirence.. but the image is beeeeh>:(
http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/eos30d/sample/sample4.html


I highly doubt Canon has another SLR to release. If so...then I probably won't care since it'll be too expensive for me. =)



Are you not impressed with any images taken with it's identical twin.....the 20D?

Not sure why you expected a jump in image quality. As it is you can't tell apart shots from a 350D and a 1dsmkII on 6x4 prints or at a normal web size of let's say.....800xsomething.

[.me]

http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/eos30d/sample/sample5.html
and this one as well

[jj1987]

that last one was a 20 sec exposure. The sharpness could be from the fact that light moves. I think its simply motion blur.

[.me]

+ its from RAW!!
should be sharper

[sapearl]

I was looking at the image under magnification in PS - It's difficult to say... perhaps a weakness of the lens under the shooting conditions, or maybe even the slightest of vibrations that was introduced to the tripod over the 20 second duration. A side by side comparison with an "L" lens would have been interesting.

I was talking about this.. maybe the lens made all the diffirence.. but the image is beeeeh>:(
http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/eos30d/sample/sample4.html

[dshootist]

i noticed in the most recent MacMall catalog that there was a substantial mail-in rebate for the 1Ds MK II (almost $900 USD). it was displayed in the Digital Camera Blowout section with (of course) the 20D which was just replaced (not really upgraded) by the 30D. what could this mean?

[sapearl]

Well, that model came out around August of 2005, I believe. Seems sort of a short time ago to be phasing out if that's the plan. Anyone know how sales of that model have been? It's still a little pricey at around $4k IMHO.

i noticed in the most recent MacMall catalog that there was a substantial mail-in rebate for the 1Ds MK II (almost $900 USD). it was displayed in the Digital Camera Blowout section with (of course) the 20D which was just replaced (not really upgraded) by the 30D. what could this mean?

[dshootist]

Well, that model came out around August of 2005, I believe. Seems sort of a short time ago to be phasing out if that's the plan. Anyone know how sales of that model have been? It's still a little pricey at around $4k IMHO.

if you can find a 1Ds MKII at $4K, go for it! the price it's listed at before rebate is $7,999 USD!

[sapearl]

I stand corrected :o - didn't realize the substantial price difference there. I'm still counting on a nice 5D with a solid lens for about the same price.

if you can find a 1Ds MKII at $4K, go for it! the price it's listed at before rebate is $7,999 USD!

[Kickstart]

Well, that model came out around August of 2005, I believe. Seems sort of a short time ago to be phasing out if that's the plan. Anyone know how sales of that model have been? It's still a little pricey at around $4k IMHO.

September 04. Think you are thinking of the 1Dmk2n, not the 1Dsmk2.

All the best

Keith

[dshootist]

yeah, but wouldn't that be a sweet price point for the 1DsMKII? they'd move a ton!

[Longwatcher]

And since I was one of the first on my block to get one the answer for the 1DsMkII was Nov 2004. It took me a touch over a week to get my hands on one and mine arrived on 23 Nov 2004. I think the product release date was 12 Nov 2004.

The announcement was made in Sept 2004 though.

Price when I bought it was $7999 US. Can now be got for $6900 US at BH.

ouch my wallet hurts evertime I see that I could get another whole digital camera like 20D for the difference in price between then and now. Oh well at least I have gotten 50,000 images for the difference. 8) 8) 8) :)

[peterdoomen]

From a financial point of view, 350D and 20D are the true battlehorses

Indeed! But they need the pro cameras because people will buy these then buy more glass, flashes and so on... seems that we get more and more stuck into their web ;-)

P.