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Belmondo
22nd of July 2003 (Tue), 12:17
I would be interested in hearing from people who, like me, enjoy taking photographs of railroad subjects. Since such pictures are difficult to 'pose,' especially when the object of interest is often moving at 60 mph+, I'd be intersted in hearing how others approach the matter.

Also, I'd love to see examples of what you're doing. When I figure out my new camera, I'll put some up for you to see.

I live in the California desert, so my shooting days tend to be limited by high temperatures, but I've had some success in the early morning while temperatures are still below 100 degrees F.

msvirick
8th of August 2003 (Fri), 22:10
Were you able to reslove issues with railway photography?
It would be interesting to share your research in this matter

RedShoesGirl
9th of August 2003 (Sat), 21:35
Belmondo,

I too am in the California desert - and a huge rail fan with lots of railroad pics in various places on the net. I shot mostly roster shots for this one guy's site which for simple photography was pretty fun.

Here are some I shot while I was still at an Iowa paper - did a photo essay on this little steam railroad.

http://www.simpson.edu/~tinder/VTWIMuseum/BSVHartley/BSVHartley.html

And this shot was from another picture story but in Barstow when I worked at the paper there - when the steam train came to town.

http://www.digitalstoryteller.com/BTV99/hartley/images/07142steam_longing.jpg

AND a great spot in Ludlow for shooting trains

http://www.qstation.org/bnsflist/bnsf715.jpg

And one of my all time faves

http://www.desertusa.com/bboardposts/photos/train_sunset.jpg

These were taken with an EOS1n and then digitized.

I haven't tried the 10D on trains yet. Still entranced with macro bugs! :)

RSG

msvirick
10th of August 2003 (Sun), 19:56
These are excellent pictures. The railroads in Canada are especially in Nova Scotia, abandoned and lonely looking. Sometime I have taken pictures of these stations, and they make a profile in sadness. I am from a family of railmen, my both great grand fathers worked in the railways, my paternal grandfather went to Burma to build the Burma Railways line from Rangoon to Mandalay. My grandfathers built rail cars, all wood in the earlier years, they were carpenters.
And it is sad to see that era all gone. The engines are all in disrepair, and parked near the dump.
When I look at your pictures, it makes me happy.
Did you use a digital camera for the Siberian shot?
Regards you men who have soft spot for the world of railways.

RedShoesGirl
11th of August 2003 (Mon), 10:14
msvirick wrote:...
Did you use a digital camera for the Siberian shot?
Regards you men who have soft spot for the world of railways.

No, that was a very underexposed slide. The only digital one is the Ludlow shot.

RedShoesGIRL - who still loves trains even though she is a female. :)

Belmondo
11th of August 2003 (Mon), 10:33
RedShoesGirl:
When and if I ever figure out how to post pictures, I'll post a few of the things I've been doing recently. I don't feel they compare to yours, but gosh, I'm having fun. I guess that's the least one could hope for after the amount of $$$$ I've invested in this venture.

RedShoesGirl
11th of August 2003 (Mon), 15:32
Posting pics is easy. First you find a place to host them, like http://www.bytephoto.com/

Easy interface, easy to upload pics. Once you have them on the site you need to open an image in a new window, then copy and past that url between html tags:

URL-replace with actual URL

with no spaces between the url and the tags. Also, remove the ? and numbers after the jpeg

If you click on preview message at the bottom of the page you can see if the embedding works.

RSG

RedShoesGirl
18th of August 2003 (Mon), 00:52
Here is a new train photo I took yesterday testing the AI function. The 10D did pretty good I think.

http://www.bytephoto.com/photopost/data/500/35santaFe_sharp_1-med.jpg

RSG

Belmondo
18th of August 2003 (Mon), 03:02
Well, that's a wonderful picture of a GP30. I'd love to post a couple of my pictures for you, and I appreciate your attempts to assist me........

........except I have no idea what an HTML tag is, and the Help link on this site doesn't make it any clearer.

I've posted a couple pictures on Fotopic, but beyond that, I haven't a clue as to how to proceed.

Maybe if I stare at this long enough.....

Tom

Belmondo
18th of August 2003 (Mon), 03:41
Hey, I think I figured this out! Let's see now, if I press this thing, then push on that thing, then walk around my chair three times, just maybe........


This was taken at the windmill farm at the Palm Springs AMTRAK station a week or two ago. It's always so refreshing to see engines that aren't yellow for a change.

Thanks for your help. I'll post some more pictures tomorrow. Now, I sleep.

http://www.bytephoto.com/photopost/data/500/353111_1192-med.jpg

Belmondo
18th of August 2003 (Mon), 03:48
Of course, the first thing you're thinking is, 'This locomotive is yellow, too.'

You're right. It's just that the whole thing isn't yellow, and it's a different shade.

This is not a great photo; I'm only fond of it because of the heat shimmering off the engines and the unusual image of the windmill blades that results.

Belmondo
18th of August 2003 (Mon), 09:42
Pick one:

a) The train is not moving
b) This was taken with a very long lens
c) With youthful agility, I leaped out of the way at the last minute.

http://www.bytephoto.com/photopost/data/500/353Veteran-med.jpg

I miss the SP. It's particularly sad to know that the 'bloody nose' paint scheme will gradually disappear altogether. The irony is, when they first adopted it over 40 years ago, I hated it. Now it evokes a great deal of nostalgia, even though there are still lots of them around.

Did I tell you, I hate yellow?


tOM

Belmondo
18th of August 2003 (Mon), 10:24
This is the last one I'll bore you with for now. Even though the subject matter is odious, the picture is among my favorites......I don't know why. I think possibly because it was my first experience with my 400/5.6L lens, and the clarity just blew me away at full resolution. The JPEG compression doesn't do it justice.

Tom

http://www.bytephoto.com/photopost/data/500/353111_1175-med.jpg

RedShoesGirl
18th of August 2003 (Mon), 11:38
WOW! Even though over the years I have come to hate Uncle Pete this is really a nice image AND a clean engine. Imagine that.

When SP first adopted the script logo after merging with the DnRGW I was hired to shoot some engines for the now defunct SP magazine. It is sad to see the SP logos gradually disappearing as each engine falls into disrepair. Even sadder are the UP engines that are filthy - they used to be kept so clean. I remember just hating to shoot SP because the colour scheme was so blah - and extremely hard to shoot because of the dark grey engines.

You gotta come north and get some other colour schemes happening!

This is an awesome lens too. I want one...just after I get a really wide angle and a dedicated macro. And all that will happen after I win the lottery.

RSG

I see you have figured out embedding and html tags. :) COOL!

Belmondo
18th of August 2003 (Mon), 12:23
I took this picture with my G2 last year in Reno (Sparks). This engine was so new, it still had the new car smell.

http://www.bytephoto.com/photopost/data/500/353UP_4856-14-med.jpg


I frequently drive over to Indio and wander around the yard there. Occasionally, there are some interesting things to see, but mostly it's old SP and UP engines being held for helper service up to Beaumont/Banning. Recently I came across an old KCS engine just sitting there idling, and maybe I'll post one of the pictures I took of it. There's absoluely no yellow on that engine.

I'd be interested in hearing if you have a 'favorite' setup you use for shooting trains. I'd really love to have a second body so I could keep the long lens on one, and maybe the75-300 or the 28-135 on the other. I haven't seen too many circumstances where wide-angle helps in train pictures because of the typical distance from the subject, but then again, maybe that's what I'm doing wrong----not thinking outside the box.

I keep badgering my wife to let me go spend a day up at Tehachapi, but because there aren't any malls nearby, that idea just doesn't seem to get any traction. That is one place where the wide-angle probably would be useful, however. For all my years of train watching, I've never made it to the loop with a camera.

Andy_T
18th of August 2003 (Mon), 13:00
Belmondo,

I really like your Train pics!

Maybe I'll just take my camera to the train station one of the next weekends...

Best regards,
Andy

Belmondo
18th of August 2003 (Mon), 15:03
Please do, and then share! I look forward to seeing what you come up with.

Tom

Belmondo
18th of August 2003 (Mon), 18:01
Uno mas!

http://www.bytephoto.com/photopost/data/500/353Signal_Bridge-med.jpg

RedShoesGirl
18th of August 2003 (Mon), 21:51
Here are a couple done with a wide angle. It can be challenging I think to shoot trains with wide angle because you have to be close to the tracks as they come by and that is just bloody dangerous.

http://www.bytephoto.com/photopost/data/500/35SP_Shellville.jpg

These two were stopped. I think I sold this shot for a locomotive encylopedia if I remember correctly.

And since you said you like yellow so much...:)

http://www.bytephoto.com/photopost/data/500/35UP_in_Mojave_Desert.jpg

msvirick
23rd of August 2003 (Sat), 16:44
RedShoesGirl wrote:
Here is a new train photo I took yesterday testing the AI function. The 10D did pretty good I think.

http://www.bytephoto.com/photopost/data/500/35santaFe_sharp_1-med.jpg

RSG
There is a tilt to the loco. Was is shot that way intenionally, it gives a sense of motion.
Well done

msvirick
23rd of August 2003 (Sat), 16:48
RedShoesGirl wrote:
Here are a couple done with a wide angle.

What kind of wide angle lens was used here?.
It must have cost you a arm and a leg to get a wide angle lens to get this.

Belmondo
23rd of August 2003 (Sat), 17:43
Here's a 'live action' shot I caught purely by accident on a recent visit to the Palm Springs Amtrak station. I didn't have any desire to learn what was in the bucket

Tom


http://www.bytephoto.com/photopost/data/500/353Water_Boy-med.jpg

RedShoesGirl
23rd of August 2003 (Sat), 23:26
There is a tilt to the loco. Was is shot that way intenionally, it gives a sense of motion.
Well done

The tilt was because the train was heading around a shallow curve away from me - and you are right, it does add to the sense of motion.

Tilting the horizon line can be a very effective creative tool if not overused.

RSG

RedShoesGirl
24th of August 2003 (Sun), 01:06
msvirick wrote:
Here are a couple done with a wide angle.

What kind of wide angle lens was used here?.
It must have cost you a arm and a leg to get a wide angle lens to get this.

No, this was shot on film and then digitized. I was just showing it as an example as shooting trains with a wide-angle. This was a 24mm which tranlates into only at 38.4mm when used on the 10D. I am longing for a Sigma 15-35 zoom - then at least I would have equal to a 24mm lens again.

Belmondo
24th of August 2003 (Sun), 10:36
Believe me, I have no desire to revisit the question of Sigma vs. Canon, but have you ruled out the 17-40L? It seems to be one of the better deals in the Canon lens lineup, and you only give up 2mm (3.2, actually)

RedShoesGirl
27th of August 2003 (Wed), 10:33
belmondo wrote:


Believe me, I have no desire to revisit the question of Sigma vs. Canon, but have you ruled out the 17-40L? It seems to be one of the better deals in the Canon lens lineup, and you only give up 2mm (3.2, actually)

Just not wide enough. I figure I need what translates to at least a 24mm and that is the Sigma 15-35. Anything less wide is not enough. I tried the Canon and could really feel the difference in what I wanted to see and what I was seeing. Make sense? :)

RSG

Belmondo
27th of August 2003 (Wed), 11:20
I suppose. It brings to mind the old cigarette commercials----“A silly millimeter longer.”

To look at it another way, 17mm focal length is a little over 13% longer than the 15mm. I suppose when you get down to the last two millimeters, it can be significant if you’re really pushing your limits.

I have the 17-40 and have never been frustrated by a need for anything wider, but then again, I spend my days trudging around in the sand taking pictures of dirty old trains, rocks, and clouds. Considering the artistry of my photography, I should probably be using a Brownie Hawkey.

thadlo
27th of August 2003 (Wed), 21:08
Well, this is sort of on-topic, sort of not, but its an interesting story.
I was taking Amtrak about a month ago from Chicago to MI, and it was a gorgeous day. I was in the last car with very few people. We can to a stop and a conductor opened up the back door, so I grabbed my camera to take some pictures of the track and the trees overhead - very pretty. Anyway, she freaked and me and said "no way, I'll get fired". Well, I took a better look and realized that we had run over a man lying in the tracks. She thought I was after some grusome photos!
Anyway, not every day one sees a man that had been hit by a train! Too bad too cause the photo I had in my mind to take was lovely!

Belmondo
27th of August 2003 (Wed), 22:01
A good friend of mine used to be an engineer on the commuter trains in the San Francisco Bay Area. According to him, 'suicide by train' is a fairly commong thing. He's had people jump in front of him on a few occasions.

Needless to say, the survival rate is fairly low.

msvirick
3rd of September 2003 (Wed), 07:39
belmondo wrote:
I suppose. It brings to mind the old cigarette commercials----“A silly millimeter longer.”

To look at it another way, 17mm focal length is a little over 13% longer than the 15mm. I suppose when you get down to the last two millimeters, it can be significant if you’re really pushing your limits.

I have the 17-40 and have never been frustrated by a need for anything wider, but then again, I spend my days trudging around in the sand taking pictures of dirty old trains, rocks, and clouds. Considering the artistry of my photography, I should probably be using a Brownie Hawkey.


I think I have solved my problem with a wide lens for a 10D. Buy a second film camera, in my case a used EOS 2 for $195, then use a Tameron 19-35, where 10D wont go. Problem solved.

Leighow
3rd of September 2003 (Wed), 09:40
BELMONDO

You have posted some beautiful shots of trains.. the yellow against the stormy sky is magnificant. May I suggest that you post under Share Photos -- just to be sure everyone is alerted to your talents.

On the grewsome subject of train accidents et al.
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I was in Lewes, Sussex County, England in June and as I walked up the stairs there was a big poster that said.. something like "...Trains Can, and Do Kill.. Every month.. etc...etc..." After our two week stay there was a runmor that someone had fallen at this same station.

A few months later in Canada the train I was on was stopped because kids had thrown a rock thru a passenger's window. Late borders at the next station said that train had left its staring point late due to an "accident" on the tracks. I cannot confirm these stories.. but.. such goings on had not passed my mind before.

HOWIE

Belmondo
3rd of September 2003 (Wed), 09:54
Rock-throwing used to be a big problem for U.S. railroads, particularly in the northeast where a significant amount of their rights-of-way pass through large cities. At one point, it was established practice to put a heavy chicken-wire screen over locomotive windscreens. I don't know if they still do that or not since I don't live in that part of the country.

I imagine it takes a lot less wire to do it that way than to build fences around the railroad. Still, it's a sad commentary on the behavior of certain individuals.

MDJAK
26th of February 2010 (Fri), 19:29
Where have all the train cars gone, long time gone. :(

me

photoguy6405
26th of February 2010 (Fri), 19:43
AND a great spot in Ludlow for shooting trains

http://www.qstation.org/bnsflist/bnsf715.jpg

Love this shot!

Zeekmann
26th of February 2010 (Fri), 19:47
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh137/Zeekmann/IMG_1408CR2.jpg

digirebelva
26th of February 2010 (Fri), 19:56
Okay Ill play, I like railroads as well

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2764/4386448724_c2ed63be39_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3217/3106388474_7cc0ce56ed_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2493/3706540013_0696971fbc_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3514/4045014622_9046715125_o.jpg

Mosca
26th of February 2010 (Fri), 20:11
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/Mosca/steamtown/_MG_6592-1.jpg

Zeekmann
26th of February 2010 (Fri), 20:13
very nice!!!!!!!!

Jon Foster
27th of February 2010 (Sat), 00:52
Wow, this is an old thread!

Jon.

tonylong
27th of February 2010 (Sat), 09:22
Wow, this is an old thread!

Jon.

Heh! Yeah this is funny -- the Chief posted the last entry what, eight years ago? The funny thing is that Belmondo is still a "train photo addict":)!