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AdamJL
13th of March 2009 (Fri), 16:41
i purchased 2nd hand 300 2.8 Non-IS about $1900 last month.. here is some samples (i don't have much time on these days) with 300mm

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3565/3340022953_3f7e3b407e_b.jpg

300mm + 1.4X extender (handled)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3405/3340021455_d7439f5135_b.jpg



Gorgeous

FlyingPhotog
13th of March 2009 (Fri), 18:01
I think I've found the secret to better birding .. Attack from above:
http://www.pbase.com/flyingphotog/image/110167177/original.jpg
40D + 300 .. 1/350 @ f/5.6 ISO 200

Alan B
14th of March 2009 (Sat), 07:28
All posted elsewhere on this forum, but I thought I would chuck them in here for those thinking of getting the 300.

http://www.gtmedia.com/images/BWC.jpg

http://www.gtmedia.com/images/BWC0.jpg

http://www.gtmedia.com/images/BWC2.jpg

http://www.gtmedia.com/images/BWC4.jpg

Awesome shots from a awesome lens :cool:

I'm going to get rid of my 100-400 for this lens :D

edgar-Junior
17th of March 2009 (Tue), 22:45
Some shot's from my new baby................

tonylong
30th of March 2009 (Mon), 06:10
Shot with the 2x TC:

http://www.pbase.com/image/89345664/original.jpg

p360
2nd of April 2009 (Thu), 20:30
This is my dream lens.

Neilyb
3rd of April 2009 (Fri), 04:15
1.4 and 2x TC stacked, wide open.

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100% no PP

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anglefire
3rd of April 2009 (Fri), 13:06
I wish you lot would stop posting images on here.

This lens is on the top of my wish list - shame its not on the wifes as well :(

Tareq
3rd of April 2009 (Fri), 13:11
I wish you lot would stop posting images on here.

This lens is on the top of my wish list - shame its not on the wifes as well :(

Do move and live in U.A.E. Ajman city in specific, and you will have all the access to 300 f2.8L + 1.4xTC + 2xTC

tonylong
3rd of April 2009 (Fri), 14:09
I wish you lot would stop posting images on here.

This lens is on the top of my wish list - shame its not on the wifes as well :(

Heh! I stopped looking at threads for lenses that I don't own or haven't owned -- too tempting! I know my limits:)!

Tareq
3rd of April 2009 (Fri), 14:20
Heh! I stopped looking at threads for lenses that I don't own or haven't owned -- too tempting! I know my limits:)!

I did that before, but good that we have some really great lenses that will make you don't care much about another great lenses, for example i have 24-70L and say 135L, why i should look at 17-55 thread? and if i did, will that making me to go and buy 17-55? even i heard that 200 f2L is the sharpest lens now, it is not in my list, 500 is a killer lens but i want 600 not 500, the only lens that i really didn't visit its thread but i want it is 85 1.2L.

tonylong
3rd of April 2009 (Fri), 14:24
I did that before, but good that we have some really great lenses that will make you don't care much about another great lenses, for example i have 24-70L and say 135L, why i should look at 17-55 thread? and if i did, will that making me to go and buy 17-55? even i heard that 200 f2L is the sharpest lens now, it is not in my list, 500 is a killer lens but i want 600 not 500, the only lens that i really didn't visit its thread but i want it is 85 1.2L.

Well, don't spend much time on our 85L thread, it'll suck you in and bleed you dry:)!

I know eventually I'll get a 500 or 600 -- I'll have to for my birding. But for now it's just a tease even looking at the shots:)!

Tareq
3rd of April 2009 (Fri), 16:19
Well, don't spend much time on our 85L thread, it'll suck you in and bleed you dry:)!

I know eventually I'll get a 500 or 600 -- I'll have to for my birding. But for now it's just a tease even looking at the shots:)!

85L bleeding me? huh... i have hasselblad and i tested 120 macro on it and i pissed off, and they said that 100 is sharpest, so i can't imagine how sharper is 100 over 120macro, even 200L or 300L are so close to be sharp as those, and many also knows that those hasselblad HC lenses are not the sharpest in the market, do you mean f/1.2? i even don't use 1.4 or 1.8 that much and bokeh doesn't blowing my mind.

About 500 and 600, i stopped to go to NN site, birds section alone making me to thinking to buy both 500 and 600.

Neilyb
4th of April 2009 (Sat), 05:24
Here is that moon again, last night, 2x and 1.4 stacked (MF'd with live view(found a use for it ;) )) ISo 800, so a bit noisey still oodles of detail though.

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Neilyb
4th of April 2009 (Sat), 05:25
OKay, same moon, same night 50D 2xCanon TC and 2x Soligor TC (not the best)

Crop from the right otherwise full frame. Even the RAW had black blacks...I was expecting far less contrast.


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Canonswhitelensesrule
4th of April 2009 (Sat), 10:24
I wish you lot would stop posting images on here.

This lens is on the top of my wish list - shame its not on the wifes as well :(

If you WANT the lens, and can afford it, just BUY IT!! I'm sure your wife doesn't "ask" you before she buys EVERYTHING that she does!

You earn your money, and have a right to spend it how YOU want to. At least once in a while.

I'm not trying to cause trouble etc, but sheesh, if a person can't buy something that THEY want, that they can afford, with THEIR OWN money, that THEY'VE WORKED for WITHOUT having to ask for permission, esp in a FREE COUNTRY, then something is wrong. IMHO

*waits for the fun to begin with the replies.

Leeuwarden
4th of April 2009 (Sat), 10:28
I told my wife she could use it too :-)


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3592/3409701504_b838191fc0_b.jpg

FlyingPhotog
4th of April 2009 (Sat), 10:30
If you WANT the lens, and can afford it, just BUY IT!! I'm sure your wife doesn't "ask" you before she buys EVERYTHING that she does!

You earn your money, and have a right to spend it how YOU want to. At least once in a while.

I'm not trying to cause trouble etc, but sheesh, if a person can't buy something that THEY want, that they can afford, with THEIR OWN money, that THEY'VE WORKED for WITHOUT having to ask for permission, esp in a FREE COUNTRY, then something is wrong. IMHO

*waits for the fun to begin with the replies.

You're single aren't you? :lol:

Canonswhitelensesrule
4th of April 2009 (Sat), 18:34
You're single aren't you? :lol:

:lol: Yeah I am. But it still shouldn't make any difference. If a grown man can't buy what HE wants with HIS OWN money...as long as the rent/mortgage is paid, there's food in the house, clothes on the back, and all the other bills are paid, then something is wrong.

Plus it's NOT an everyday purchase. If after years of toiling, and sweating, and earning a living, putting a roof over his family's head, putting food on the table, paying the bills etc, he's EARNED the right to buy something for himself without having to ASK permission. At least that's the way it SHOULD be.

But here's a solution...They say marriage is a 50/50 deal. So tell the wife you want to buy 2 lenses...The EF 300mm f2.8L I.S.USM, and the EF500mm f4L I.S. USM. She has 50% say..so she says NO!!! to the 500mm lens, but with HIS 50% (after all, it's ONLY FAIR!!) he BUYS the 300mm f2.8L.

That way they EACH get their 50% of the decision!! Problem Solved!!

DDWD10
4th of April 2009 (Sat), 19:26
It's an investment. Buy a good used one and it'll retain most of its value as long as you don't damage it.

anglefire
5th of April 2009 (Sun), 16:19
It's an investment. Buy a good used one and it'll retain most of its value as long as you don't damage it.

I keep looking - but even they are expensive - thing is, ~3months ago they were ~£2800 new- now they are going for that 2nd hand.

Whilst I can see plenty of use for one, I do find it hard to really justify one - I shall hire when I need one.

tonylong
5th of April 2009 (Sun), 17:52
I keep looking - but even they are expensive - thing is, ~3months ago they were ~£2800 new- now they are going for that 2nd hand.

Whilst I can see plenty of use for one, I do find it hard to really justify one - I shall hire when I need one.

Heh! That'll work, just don't make a habit of the thing:)!

droopy1592
5th of April 2009 (Sun), 17:54
I told my wife she could use it too :-)


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3592/3409701504_b838191fc0_b.jpg

nice

Zivnuska
6th of April 2009 (Mon), 14:17
I keep looking - but even they are expensive - thing is, ~3months ago they were ~£2800 new- now they are going for that 2nd hand.

Whilst I can see plenty of use for one, I do find it hard to really justify one - I shall hire when I need one.

I considered renting one until I realized that I could use one for years, sell it and the difference would be equal to the cost of renting one for two weekends. By your own example, you could have purchased one 3 months ago, enjoyed it thoroughly and gotten every nickle back out of it. Do it!

Leeuwarden
7th of April 2009 (Tue), 09:55
It's an amazing lens. Take the following ingredients: some clouds, a Kenko 300 pro 1.4TC, a Canon 2x TC, Canon EF 300mm f/2.8L IS USM and a MKIII. Point it at a F16 taking off and you get this:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3329/3421368564_c100fd46a1_b.jpg

Neilyb
8th of April 2009 (Wed), 08:46
50D, 300, 2cTX, handheld....impressed me that it resolves on this sensor :|

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cwphoto
11th of April 2009 (Sat), 06:29
EOS-1D Mark III, 300/2.8 IS, ISO 200, 1/1,000s @ f/2.8:
http://www.dcresource.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=45208&stc=1&d=1238161805

EOS-1D Mark III, 300/2.8 IS, ISO 400, 1/1,000s @ f/2.8:
http://www.dcresource.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=45214&stc=1&d=1238164596

Neilyb
17th of April 2009 (Fri), 10:16
Playing in the garden: 300+1.4TC f4.

http://neilburton.smugmug.com/photos/514373033_7cont-XL.jpg

Tareq
17th of April 2009 (Fri), 10:44
Playing in the garden: 300+1.4TC f4.

http://neilburton.smugmug.com/photos/514373033_7cont-XL.jpg

Great shot, i like it!

Leeuwarden
25th of April 2009 (Sat), 04:10
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3323/3471708512_549f68ce11_b.jpg

hamond
25th of April 2009 (Sat), 17:46
ey leeuwarden... whats that? looks busted up


(groeten uit rotterdam... ik heb mijn 300mm nog niet :-)

Leeuwarden
26th of April 2009 (Sun), 04:10
That's an old Belgian Starfighter which is to be restaurated... It's located at Neiderrhein/Weeze.

Zivnuska
26th of April 2009 (Sun), 15:41
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3323/3471708512_549f68ce11_b.jpg

Where is Daryl Greenamyer?

Leeuwarden
26th of April 2009 (Sun), 15:46
:mrgreen: If he would see this plane he probably would shake his head and walk away...

pmarz
26th of April 2009 (Sun), 20:19
With the 5d MarkII

merlin7
2nd of May 2009 (Sat), 12:12
Just got my shiny new 300 f2.8 L IS and 2x tc It's bloody brilliant. Can anyone sugest a backpack that I can keep the 5d2 attached and have space for a couple more lens, 70-200 2.8, 70-104 L, 16-35 2.8L and a sidekick + BH1 Bhead + 530ex flash and a few other bits and pieces.
I know it's all gonna weigh a LOT but my mode of transport is an M/cycle and it would allow me to travel around on long trips in Asia. Oh and also Gitzo Gt 1541T.

Thanks Guys

Neilyb
7th of May 2009 (Thu), 14:58
Vertex 100 or 200 should do the trick. I carried the 300 2.8, 1ds, 50D, 2 landscape lenses and 2 TCs in a 100, just. Buy a lens case to attach outside you have it all sorted.

One from the UK. 1DsII 300 plus 2x TC.

http://neilburton.smugmug.com/photos/529998400_wypUm-XL.jpg

DDWD10
7th of May 2009 (Thu), 15:22
^^ Wow!

Tareq
7th of May 2009 (Thu), 18:39
^^ Wow!

+1, WOW!

Neilyb
11th of May 2009 (Mon), 05:17
http://neilburton.smugmug.com/photos/531943445_Us4Fh-XL.jpg

http://neilburton.smugmug.com/photos/531909854_zFeG2-XL.jpg

jmik26
11th of May 2009 (Mon), 08:43
^^^^^^^^^^^ bw! ^^^^^^^^^^^ Simply amazing...Jeff

butterfly2937
11th of May 2009 (Mon), 20:18
Neil
Awesome as usual. Where did you go to find these beautiful birds? Are those taken with just the 300mm or with a 1.4x or 2x?

Jay T
11th of May 2009 (Mon), 22:04
great shots neal

Neilyb
12th of May 2009 (Tue), 05:14
Shag was taken with the Prime alone, attached is a crop un edited at f4 (it is that sharp at f2.8 but shallow DOF means you gotta get it right!) Puffin was shot wide open with the 1.4 TC.

Cheers.

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hamond
12th of May 2009 (Tue), 13:00
Holey Sh#t!!!

I am really thinking my 300mm is not OK.
Last weekend ik took it out for the first time to a birdshow.
I shot alot of photo wit just the 300mm @ F4 to F6,3 on an 5D..

My photo's arent that sharp!!
It this lens malfunctioning?

Here are the photo's:
Please comment.
(i know the light wasn't most ideal at 12:30)

LR2 processed
http://www.hamond.nl/images/plaatjesmakers/rvs/rvs1.jpg
http://www.hamond.nl/images/plaatjesmakers/rvs/rvs2.jpg
http://www.hamond.nl/images/plaatjesmakers/rvs/rvs3.jpg

http://www.hamond.nl/images/plaatjesmakers/rvs/rvs5.jpg
http://www.hamond.nl/images/plaatjesmakers/rvs/rvs6.jpg
http://www.hamond.nl/images/plaatjesmakers/rvs/rvs7.jpg
http://www.hamond.nl/images/plaatjesmakers/rvs/rvs8.jpg
http://www.hamond.nl/images/plaatjesmakers/rvs/rvs9.jpg

hamond
12th of May 2009 (Tue), 13:02
http://www.hamond.nl/images/plaatjesmakers/rvs/rvs4.jpg

http://www.hamond.nl/images/plaatjesmakers/rvs/rvs10.jpg

http://www.hamond.nl/images/plaatjesmakers/rvs/rvs11.jpg

http://www.hamond.nl/images/plaatjesmakers/rvs/rvs12.jpg


Photoshop Cs4 processed

http://www.hamond.nl/images/plaatjesmakers/rvs/rvs13.jpg

http://www.hamond.nl/images/plaatjesmakers/rvs/rvs14.jpg

http://www.hamond.nl/images/plaatjesmakers/rvs/rvs15.jpg

KayakPhotos
12th of May 2009 (Tue), 13:03
Holey Sh#t!!!

I am really thinking my 300mm is not OK.
Last weekend ik took it out for the first time to a birdshow.
I shot alot of photo wit just the 300mm @ F4 to F6,3 on an 5D..

My photo's arent that sharp!!
It this lens malfunctioning?

Here are the photo's:
Please comment.
(i know the light wasn't most ideal at 12:30)

LR2 processed


Those photos look pretty sharp to me. It might be a slight technique difference. Good handholding and trigger squeeze can give shots that extra edge. Lighting is also crucial to making the different between good and great shots. I happen to think that yours turned out pretty good myself.

FlyingPhotog
12th of May 2009 (Tue), 13:07
Holey Sh#t!!!

I am really thinking my 300mm is not OK.
Last weekend ik took it out for the first time to a birdshow.
I shot alot of photo wit just the 300mm @ F4 to F6,3 on an 5D..

My photo's arent that sharp!!
It this lens malfunctioning?

Here are the photo's:
Please comment.
(i know the light wasn't most ideal at 12:30)

LR2 processed

They all look pretty darn good here...

One thing about the 5D: it sometimes benefits from slightly more aggressive sharpening than you might normally be used to doing.

tonylong
12th of May 2009 (Tue), 13:07
Most of those look quite sharp around the eyes, presumably where you were focusing. With a long lens, shooting at f/4 can have quite a narrow depth of field, which does show up in your shots.

I typically try to shoot at f/5.6 or narrower.

In2Photos
12th of May 2009 (Tue), 13:11
hhonda, those shots look really soft. But send it to me for some further testing just to make sure. ;)

hamond
12th of May 2009 (Tue), 13:11
Those photos look pretty sharp to me. It might be a slight technique difference. Good handholding and trigger squeeze can give shots that extra edge. Lighting is also crucial to making the different between good and great shots. I happen to think that yours turned out pretty good myself.

Thank you...

But i already really watch my "Trigger" technique.... i got that from a former hobby shooting competetive (airgun Feinwerkbau)
Some of the photo's have shuttertimes of 1/1600 and 1/2000sec..
Can it really be that crucial?

I never had any problems shooting with my 100-400L :oops: :oops:

Maybe i should have tried a higher F stop.. like f8 or f10.
I was about 2,5 a 3mters away from the birds..

tonylong
12th of May 2009 (Tue), 13:14
Maybe i should have tried a higher F stop.. like f8 or f10.
I was about 2,5 a 3mters away from the birds..

That close with a long lens and a wide aperture = a narrow depth of field, so yes, shoot at f/5.6 or narrower. You will still get a "creamy" background but keep the whole bird in the DOF.

hamond
12th of May 2009 (Tue), 13:15
Thank you guys..

It sounds like i really need to practice more with this lens..
Today i bought a gitzo carbon monopod for it..

Maybe i'm to stressed about it being soft because its a expensive lens and you want it to be as good as it can get.


Tony... i will try a higher F stop next weekend....
I'm just i little bit suprised the DOF turned out different from my 100-400 at the same apperture...
I should be almost the same...

tonylong
12th of May 2009 (Tue), 13:34
Thank you guys..

It sounds like i really need to practice more with this lens..
Today i bought a gitzo carbon monopod for it..

A sturdy monopod is a very good companion with this lens!

Maybe i'm to stressed about it being soft because its a expensive lens and you want it to be as good as it can get.

Understandable:)!


Tony... i will try a higher F stop next weekend....
I'm just i little bit suprised the DOF turned out different from my 100-400 at the same apperture...
I should be almost the same...

When you shoot with the 100-400 are you shooting at the close distances that you were in those shots?

That being said, it's hard for us to determine "critical sharpness" when looking at shots compressed for the Web. Like I said, those shots appear to me to be quite sharp around the eyes, then soften as the rest gets outside the DOF, but like I said, it's hard to tell with a downsized image. How to the eyes look when enlarged at 100%? This lens should procuce excellent sharpness that will hold up to significant enlarging.

If those areas of the shots that are the sharpest (eyes) don't look good reasonably enlarged, then you probably need to do a "lens evaluation" by setting up a tripod and testing at various apertures with a good detailed subject to see if there is a lens problem or if you are just getting adjusted to the size/weight of the thing when shooting hand-held.

hamond
12th of May 2009 (Tue), 13:57
That being said, it's hard for us to determine "critical sharpness" when looking at shots compressed for the Web. Like I said, those shots appear to me to be quite sharp around the eyes, then soften as the rest gets outside the DOF, but like I said, it's hard to tell with a downsized image. How to the eyes look when enlarged at 100%? This lens should procuce excellent sharpness that will hold up to significant enlarging.
.

I have cropped some images...
The crops are large and i hope this doesn't give problems on the forum.
If it does... i'ma sorry for that :oops:

These are from the "best" images... some are worse

http://www.hamond.nl/images/plaatjesmakers/rvs/300crop1.jpg

http://www.hamond.nl/images/plaatjesmakers/rvs/300crop2.jpg

http://www.hamond.nl/images/plaatjesmakers/rvs/300crop3.jpg

http://www.hamond.nl/images/plaatjesmakers/rvs/300crop4.jpg

http://www.hamond.nl/images/plaatjesmakers/rvs/300crop5.jpg

Gissan
12th of May 2009 (Tue), 14:08
That look pretty f***ing sharp to me!! Wooooow...

tonylong
12th of May 2009 (Tue), 14:27
If you want to note in shot #3 how the little tuft coming out of the head at camera right is quite sharp, you will see how sharp your lens is, but how narrow the DOF is. This one slightly missed the eye from what I can see, which is understandable because the eye is recessed, and it focused on the "best guess". But then, closer things like the beak become softer because of the shallow DOF.

Your other shots show the eye detail quite well, especially if you were hand-holding. Using a monopod will benefit you as well.

What do you think about the sharpness of those crops? Are you getting better results out of the 100-400, or is it mainly the DOF issue you're concerned with?

hamond
12th of May 2009 (Tue), 14:40
What do you think about the sharpness of those crops? Are you getting better results out of the 100-400, or is it mainly the DOF issue you're concerned with?

Well if i look at neily's shots and crops...



364502

That looks absolutely sparp to me... see the details araound the eye
His shot was at F4!!!!

My crops do'nt show that kind of sharpness..
Could that be the processing of the photo?
Or i'm a really losing it and can't judge my photo's without having doubt?

I must confess i never did look at the 100-400 photo's nearly as critical at 100% as i do with the 300mm...
Why am i doing it now.. ??? (now that i'm thinking of it... it is al little bit silly looking at 100%)

20DNewbie
12th of May 2009 (Tue), 15:55
Man I thought mine was pretty sharp but some of these are just insane. Makes me think mine might be a bit wonky, maybe I should send it in for a check up.:(

hamond
12th of May 2009 (Tue), 16:21
Man I thought mine was pretty sharp but some of these are just insane. Makes me think mine might be a bit wonky, maybe I should send it in for a check up.:(

Do you have any pictures?

tonylong
12th of May 2009 (Tue), 16:28
There are two types of sharpness: the resolution of detail, and what you can call "clarity" which combines contrast and other image "stuff". The 300 is great at delivering the "raw materiel" but the things like contrast, saturation, things that contribute to "clarity" are part lens, part camera/sensor, part exposure, and part post-processing. If shooting RAW, adjusting such things in a RAW processor is pretty necessary, although a good sensor, good lens and good exposure can go a long way.

I'd say your lens is doing well in matching the detail you see in that neilyb crop, that's me personally, and my eyes aren't as sharp as they used to be. Hey, if I take off my reading glasses, they all look equally blurry:)!

hamond
12th of May 2009 (Tue), 16:38
There are two types of sharpness: the resolution of detail, and what you can call "clarity" which combines contrast and other image "stuff". The 300 is great at delivering the "raw materiel" but the things like contrast, saturation, things that contribute to "clarity" are part lens, part camera/sensor, part exposure, and part post-processing. If shooting RAW, adjusting such things in a RAW processor is pretty necessary, although a good sensor, good lens and good exposure can go a long way.

I'd say your lens is doing well in matching the detail you see in that neilyb crop, that's me personally, and my eyes aren't as sharp as they used to be. Hey, if I take off my reading glasses, they all look equally blurry:)!

Tony,

I will take your word for it.. any day.
I have seen your photo's....

I wil try not to think about it to mutch anymore and just go out shoot some photo's.....

Thank you for the reasurance and the help :-)



PS: Do anyone know a admin/moderatot that can change my name to HAMOND.. i have send mails and Pm's,.... with no results.

tonylong
12th of May 2009 (Tue), 16:52
Other things to bear in mind are things like hand-held variables, ISO used, lighting, shutter speed, all these things can work together to affect sharpness.

For instance, I rarely shoot birds with a tripod, so my shooting with this lens was always either on a monopod, handheld, or perched on the window ledge of a car (in a wildlife preserve you often are forced to do this) and my lighting conditions are frequently not the best, so I have to juggle shutter speed with aperture and ISO and sometimes get bitten with not as good sharpness as I might like (not to mention times using a TC).

But, even in adverse conditions, you can still do quite well.

Here's a shot from the 300 where I had to juggle the exposure settings (I wasn't pushing the ISO as high as I do now so note the f/4 and slow shutter speed) taken shooting across my car out the passenger window:

Canon EOS-1D Mark III ,Canon EF 300mm f/2.8L IS USM
1/200s f/4.0 at 300.0mm ISO 1000
http://www.pbase.com/tonylong/image/90495473/original.jpg

A pretty close crop for a portrait:
http://www.pbase.com/tonylong/image/90495472/original.jpg

You'll see that the finest detail might be a bit soft/blurred, but for the conditions I'm quite happy with it.

Another shot cropped for a "portrait" this time with better conditions, which show in higher shutter speed and lower ISO, taken perched on the driver side window:

Canon EOS-1D Mark III ,Canon EF 300mm f/2.8L IS USM
1/640s f/8.0 at 300.0mm ISO 400

http://www.pbase.com/tonylong/image/90628190/original.jpg

Crop:
http://www.pbase.com/tonylong/image/90628189/original.jpg

Now, like I said earlier, if you want to maximize sharpness, a tripod is the way to go. I'd print these at, say, a 12x18 print without a sweat, though.

20DNewbie
12th of May 2009 (Tue), 19:07
Do you have any pictures?

I've just gone through some older stuff and found some better shots than as of late so I may have jumped the gun with my earlier post. The weather has been really crappy for about the past two weeks on the few good days the birds are almost non-existent.

There are two types of sharpness: the resolution of detail, and what you can call "clarity" which combines contrast and other image "stuff". The 300 is great at delivering the "raw materiel" but the things like contrast, saturation, things that contribute to "clarity" are part lens, part camera/sensor, part exposure, and part post-processing. If shooting RAW, adjusting such things in a RAW processor is pretty necessary, although a good sensor, good lens and good exposure can go a long way.

I'd say your lens is doing well in matching the detail you see in that neilyb crop, that's me personally, and my eyes aren't as sharp as they used to be. Hey, if I take off my reading glasses, they all look equally blurry:)!

Thanks, I'm gonna have to start figuring out what to do better in post.

randyk
12th of May 2009 (Tue), 22:27
Hamond, your shots look fine. You have to remember that DOF is razor thin at these distances, even when you stop down. Get farther back and you will see this.

Neilyb
13th of May 2009 (Wed), 04:09
Hamond your shots look fine, maybe not razor but pretty darn good. I have found that using the lens for moving subjects f5.6 is best to f8 or so. Any less and DOF becomes a problem for any slightly misfocussing. Static I have good shots at f2.8 but it is so easy to get the focus point off....gota be careful dude. Also I have adusted the 300 also with TCs on the 50D so the focus is as good as I can get it, even then my hit rate is pretty bad ;) .

Neilyb
13th of May 2009 (Wed), 04:11
300 + 2xTC, handheld whilst lying on floor trying to track it! Damn weasels are fast!

http://neilburton.smugmug.com/photos/531369883_vXyrv-XL.jpg

AdamJL
14th of May 2009 (Thu), 20:16
Gawd damn Neil. I shouldn“t have told you about this lens at all and should“ve let you stew on that crap Sigma.

Stop showing off!

Neilyb
15th of May 2009 (Fri), 04:02
Just cos you didnt see yours for a while :)

cbfabbri
19th of May 2009 (Tue), 07:33
Just push the button here.. oh God... let's wait now...

hamond
19th of May 2009 (Tue), 17:35
Thanx for the tips guys!!

I took a test shot in the studio last weekend after one of the shoots.
The lens is just fine!!

http://www.hamond.nl/images/plaatjesmakers/kirst.jpg

100% crop (Not post processed)

http://www.hamond.nl/images/plaatjesmakers/kirst100.jpg

hamond
21st of May 2009 (Thu), 06:28
From today.

300mm + 2X ext

http://www.hamond.nl/images/plaatjesmakers/vogeltjes-4.jpg


http://www.hamond.nl/images/plaatjesmakers/vogeltjes-3.jpg


http://www.hamond.nl/images/plaatjesmakers/vogeltjes-5.jpg

Neilyb
22nd of May 2009 (Fri), 04:19
Love that first one!

Neilyb
22nd of May 2009 (Fri), 04:21
With 1,4TC

http://neilburton.smugmug.com/photos/531579386_t6YWz-XL.jpg

http://neilburton.smugmug.com/photos/535553255_mUcc8-O.jpg

tonylong
24th of May 2009 (Sun), 07:19
I hate it when you all get closer to the birds than I do:)!

cbfabbri
24th of May 2009 (Sun), 10:46
First ones with this wonderfull lens... all with Canon 2x TC
camera - 5D-II


http://www.chrisfabbriphoto.com/pics/zooparque_2009/images/zoop_005.jpg

http://www.chrisfabbriphoto.com/pics/zooparque_2009/images/zoop_014.jpg

http://www.chrisfabbriphoto.com/pics/zooparque_2009/images/zoop_018.jpg

http://www.chrisfabbriphoto.com/pics/zooparque_2009/images/zoop_003.jpg

http://www.chrisfabbriphoto.com/pics/zooparque_2009/images/zoop_029.jpg

http://www.chrisfabbriphoto.com/pics/zooparque_2009/images/zoop_0010.jpg

http://www.chrisfabbriphoto.com/pics/zooparque_2009/images/zoop_011.jpg

http://www.chrisfabbriphoto.com/pics/zooparque_2009/images/zoop_023.jpg

Tukhachevskii
24th of May 2009 (Sun), 15:42
With 1,4TC


http://neilburton.smugmug.com/photos/535553255_mUcc8-O.jpg


bw!

Looking for a jaw dropping smiley but couldn't find one.

That is an absolutely stunning photograph Neil, great work.

butterfly2937
24th of May 2009 (Sun), 16:23
First ones with this wonderfull lens... all with Canon 2x TC
camera - 5D-II



Stunning work! Where did you take these gorgeous pics?

Neilyb
24th of May 2009 (Sun), 16:31
This lens keeps impressing ;)

cbfabbri
24th of May 2009 (Sun), 16:44
Stunning work! Where did you take these dorgeous pic?

Thank you !
Wildlife small private reserve - Brazil southeast.

hamond
24th of May 2009 (Sun), 17:46
Thank you !
Wildlife small private reserve - Brazil southeast.

That 4th photo is just crazy!!!!
Almost neon color blue...
stunnin!!!!!

5DII for the win :D


ps.. some of the pic are extremely dark on my monitor....
Do need to recalibrate or did you make the pics darker?

cbfabbri
24th of May 2009 (Sun), 20:00
Thanks Hamond.
The light was terrible (noon sun) with dark shadows.
My choice under those circunstances was to expose to the bright areas to avoid overexposure on the whites. Even using some fill flash was not enought to balance the whites and medium tones.
This can be the reason you see it darker, at least the whites are preserved.
Anyway, I also like "contrasty" images.

Thank you.

Two
26th of May 2009 (Tue), 20:26
Couldn't hold off any longer and this thread didn't help much
with the patience - mine is due here on Friday.

Looking forward to it.

Neilyb
28th of May 2009 (Thu), 04:40
Taken whilst out looking for landscapes, 2xTC, handheld, 50D

http://neilburton.smugmug.com/photos/547771453_SiqW5-O.jpg

keith breazeal
28th of May 2009 (Thu), 22:07
Really nice shots from all of you!!!!

Mine just arrived. Got out a car jack and got it onto the 50D- nice light lens!
I didn't have much light left and it's heavy overcast with thunder storms. I shot off my back deck towards anything with color and detail. Holy !*#% I like this lens! Can't wait to use it in good lighting. Here's my test shot under crappy contions and hand held:

full frame

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa5/KBVP/300mmtest.jpg

crop

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa5/KBVP/flowercrop.jpg

TeeBoi
29th of May 2009 (Fri), 01:09
http://neilburton.smugmug.com/photos/535553255_mUcc8-O.jpg

This image is absolutely STUNNING! WOW.

-tyler

Two
29th of May 2009 (Fri), 22:40
Mine arrived today and all I can say is Holy Cow! This thing is HUGE.

Quick shot:

hollis_f
30th of May 2009 (Sat), 11:10
Went out this morning to see if I could find some Dartford Warblers to shoot. No luck, but plenty of insects flying about. Macro photography is something I've never really tried, but I thought I'd have a go. Wow! Even with a 1.4x TC I'm amazed at what the 300 can do with little critters. Just a shame I didn't try a narrower aperture.

http://www.frankhollis.com/temp/Darter001.jpg

keith breazeal
31st of May 2009 (Sun), 21:22
Incredible dragonfly shots!!!!!!!!!!!

keith breazeal
31st of May 2009 (Sun), 21:28
Well, here's the first day of work with my new 300. These are from the "Legends Over Madera Airshow." Hand held all day was learning experience...got to get a Wimberly.

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa5/KBVP/TravelAirCoastalAirTours3464.jpg

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa5/KBVP/BoyinHelicopter3469.jpg

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa5/KBVP/RedBullMiGknifeedge3068.jpg

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa5/KBVP/MaderaWarbirdsTaxioutInMass.jpg

keith breazeal
1st of June 2009 (Mon), 03:27
Here's a Moon shot with the Canon 1.4X Extender added:

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa5/KBVP/HalfMoonCanon300mmf28LISUSM14XConvl.jpg

uncropped

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa5/KBVP/Moon300mm14XExtenderuncroppedrefere.jpg

Neilyb
2nd of June 2009 (Tue), 17:50
So there I was thinking "What if I only want to travel with the one body, no 50D means no 900mm at 15MP"...so I stuck the 2x and the 1.4x on the 1DsII and waited for a sparrow.

Wide open. Did a crop, resize, contrast and some USM. Might not look good at A3 but damn who cares, this was wide open.

370130

Neilyb
2nd of June 2009 (Tue), 17:58
Then i though "What if I tried this on the 50D, all those pixels are bound to be a little soft right but for 1340mm at f8, gotta be worht a try?" So, pardoning my MF skills, here is the same treatment but stopped down 1/3 to f9...(Oh yeh, ISO on both was 400).

370134

keith breazeal
2nd of June 2009 (Tue), 18:20
Cool! When I shot the Moon( see above photo) I couldn't believe what I was seeing in live view while focusing using the maximum magnification- it was stunning! If the bird stays in one area, you may want to shoot "live view/mirror lockup" and check that out. At the focal length you are using, a flea fart would cause the image to shake.

Neilyb
2nd of June 2009 (Tue), 18:42
I am not fast enough to use Live view magnified at 1344mm, had trouble enough hitting the moon on my last attempt! :|

flayzeraynx
5th of June 2009 (Fri), 14:56
here is some samples from Bronx ZOO

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3606/3565140852_6f17bb8ea7_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3658/3564312249_e3a163ec36_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3349/3565125510_a04793fb3c_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3603/3564295141_9666cb7f96_b.jpg

keith breazeal
6th of June 2009 (Sat), 00:23
here is some samples from Bronx ZOO

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3606/3565140852_6f17bb8ea7_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3658/3564312249_e3a163ec36_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3349/3565125510_a04793fb3c_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3603/3564295141_9666cb7f96_b.jpg


These are great! bw!

keith breazeal
6th of June 2009 (Sat), 00:25
Kinda bummed with the crappy weather. I was at the local airport(tiny one) and just thought the lighting was interesting.

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa5/KBVP/CALSTARN8118V-1.jpg

hamond
6th of June 2009 (Sat), 09:32
keith.... nice photo...

Bud sadfully something whent wrong with the resize and sharpening.....
there are jagged edges on the letters and other white parts..

hamond
6th of June 2009 (Sat), 09:39
Took some test photo's at the local airport
I'm beginning to love this lens!!

http://www.hamond.nl/images/plaatjesmakers/schiphol/shjunii09-6.jpg
300mm


http://www.hamond.nl/images/plaatjesmakers/schiphol/shjunii09-30.jpg
300mm + 1.4EXT


http://www.hamond.nl/images/plaatjesmakers/schiphol/shjunii09-10.jpg
300mm + 2EXT

keith breazeal
6th of June 2009 (Sat), 11:59
keith.... nice photo...

Bud sadfully something whent wrong with the resize and sharpening.....
there are jagged edges on the letters and other white parts..

What dpi and width are you using? I do a standard of 72/1024 because that's what I use for my website's original.

keith breazeal
6th of June 2009 (Sat), 13:16
I was using photobucket. I signed up for a Flickr account and checked to see if it's an issue with Photobucket or my software. Here's the same image and loaded from a full size file:

Flickr............

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2431/3601181666_ed47e0a99e_b.jpg

Photobucket..........

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa5/KBVP/CALSTARN8118V-1.jpg

keith breazeal
6th of June 2009 (Sat), 13:50
Again using the new Flickr account. This has plenty of diagonal lines...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3563/3600466859_18e6ec258d_b.jpg

hamond
6th of June 2009 (Sat), 22:17
The flicker one's look better!!!!!
Nice

Redbull looks nice !!!
Pilot looks sharp.. nice details and a purple flame :-)




I use 300Dpi 700pixels on the widest side.
The photo's are hosted on my site and linked to the different boards.

keith breazeal
6th of June 2009 (Sat), 22:30
The flicker one's look better!!!!!
Nice

Redbull looks nice !!!
Pilot looks sharp.. nice details and a purple flame :-)




I use 300Dpi 700pixels on the widest side.
The photo's are hosted on my site and linked to the different boards.

Thanks :)

Yes, Flickr seems to be a bit better. I might be having issues down sizing the 50d's file size to 1024.

keith breazeal
7th of June 2009 (Sun), 20:42
Trying to practice with the lens under different conditions, I decided to follow a Bumble Bee on manual focus. This close, DOF was a hair width. The best shot was this angle- not the best but seems sharp.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3389/3604911059_ec9e91f360_b.jpg

keith breazeal
10th of June 2009 (Wed), 20:31
A worse case scenario... hand held, high ISO, 1.4 extender, and shade. I was fairly impressed with the way the image held together after a tight crop.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3363/3615540368_677ac5ea7f_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2423/3615540532_899bfbd49c_o.jpg

hamond
12th of June 2009 (Fri), 08:08
300mm + 1.4Ext
http://www.hamond.nl/images/plaatjesmakers/Bbosch/bbosch-2.jpg

100% crop

http://www.hamond.nl/images/plaatjesmakers/Bbosch/bboschcrop.jpg

300mm + 1.4 ext
http://www.hamond.nl/images/plaatjesmakers/Bbosch/bbosch-3.jpg

anglefire
14th of June 2009 (Sun), 03:36
I hired one for the first time this weekend. What a gorgeous lens!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3357/3624615248_bb1bede054_o.jpg

keith breazeal
14th of June 2009 (Sun), 13:06
I find the lens stunning! When I did the moon shots, I used mirror lock-up/live view, then zoomed in at 10x for the critical focus. What you see live doesn't even come close to the .jpg files uploaded. The resolution live is beyond description. You have to try it some time.

50D 300mmL IS USM with Canon 1.4x 1/400th, f4.0

crop for resolution sample:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3620/3626037330_538bc55de4_b.jpg

original:

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa5/KBVP/Moon300mm14XExtenderuncroppedrefere.jpg

Leeuwarden
15th of June 2009 (Mon), 13:59
Hi Mike...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3615/3629837154_f1acd54b68_b.jpg

Harleypugs
15th of June 2009 (Mon), 14:01
Works on people too....

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2432/3629801428_14792a6706_b.jpg

FlyingPhotog
15th of June 2009 (Mon), 14:12
Indeed it do...

http://www.pbase.com/flyingphotog/image/110167178/original.jpg

Harleypugs
15th of June 2009 (Mon), 14:35
Very nicely to...;)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3369/3612206767_3729dd5b5c_b.jpg

FlyingPhotog
15th of June 2009 (Mon), 14:43
...and it can magically help you get unique angles on wildlife:
http://www.pbase.com/flyingphotog/image/110167177/original.jpg
(Provided you have a 15-story grandstand nearby...)

Leeuwarden
15th of June 2009 (Mon), 14:47
I prefer jet powered...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3631/3629353270_995bba3f78_b.jpg

FlyingPhotog
15th of June 2009 (Mon), 14:55
If you insist...
http://www.pbase.com/flyingphotog/image/110398733/original.jpg

Harleypugs
15th of June 2009 (Mon), 15:08
I like mine to be models...and flown by world class pilots....

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3345/3542283801_c6e227d584_b.jpg

FlyingPhotog
15th of June 2009 (Mon), 15:11
I agree on the "World Class" part but my subjects tend to be locally controlled:
http://www.pbase.com/flyingphotog/image/109598753/original.jpg

Harleypugs
15th of June 2009 (Mon), 15:13
How about seeing things in a different way?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3598/3457957396_d61fa65572_o.jpg

FlyingPhotog
15th of June 2009 (Mon), 15:14
I got nuthin' :(

(Love that shot!)

Harleypugs
15th of June 2009 (Mon), 15:16
lol....thanks...and I have seen your work....you have tons....I have nothing on you my friend.

Jon

FlyingPhotog
15th of June 2009 (Mon), 15:17
lol....thanks...and I have seen your work....I have tons....I have nothing on you my friend.

Jon

<Blush>

Thanks Jon...

keith breazeal
15th of June 2009 (Mon), 16:35
Those are all awesome shots!

I'm in the same zone as Jay... it just seems to come at you really fast!

*click to enlarge: http://www.airshowbuzz.com/files/photo/gallery/photos/orig_579_b885d.jpg

http://www.airshowbuzz.com/files/photo/gallery/photos/photo_579_b885d.jpg

andrewhuxman
19th of June 2009 (Fri), 21:07
How about seeing things in a different way?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3598/3457957396_d61fa65572_o.jpg

Thats an AWESOME shot.

keith breazeal
20th of June 2009 (Sat), 01:54
From today's qualifications at Infineon Raceway "Toyota/Save Mart 350"

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3378/3642526343_a1fdd24a1e_b.jpg

bReed
20th of June 2009 (Sat), 02:51
http://www.blakereed.com/photos/492285366_72GCj-M.jpg

keith breazeal
23rd of June 2009 (Tue), 13:51
Kasey Kahne's victory burnout at the Nascar race at Infineon. I'm 2/3 mile from the grandstands and detail is incredible- even with the heat shimmer over that distance. The road at the top of the photo has a speed limit sign and it's readable at 1 and 1/2 miles.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3659/3653973993_399fb33d32_b.jpg

AlistairD
25th of June 2009 (Thu), 10:33
Just got my 300mm f/2.8 L IS and was playing around with some test shots...

Took this one:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3300/3660208092_62b89052c4_b.jpg

and then looked at it 100% and could not believe the detail in the eye... Thought about posting this as a self portrait!!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2484/3659409899_9fd3726a02_o.jpg

To me this is just incredible detail... :eek: :eek: :eek:

realitysays
27th of June 2009 (Sat), 13:24
This was taken with a 1.4x TC. Extremely impressed with this lens!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3625/3665176223_cbf82d96e3_o.jpg

andydajo
28th of June 2009 (Sun), 06:11
Both taken with 1.4x extender fitted.

andydajo
28th of June 2009 (Sun), 06:17
One more.

keith breazeal
29th of June 2009 (Mon), 23:46
Here's a daylight shot of the Moon. 1.4x converter was used, then tight crop.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2417/3673489515_18b2c58a5a_b.jpg

and a few hours later

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3642/3673898919_9f77d9db6b_b.jpg

Joe300
30th of June 2009 (Tue), 15:27
Mine is coming this Friday. :) After this purchase I seriously think that I would spend less and less money on lens now.
TooManyShots, congrats on the new lens, did you find a ggod deal on one or did you go to B&H for your purchase...
thanks,
Joe

AlistairD
1st of July 2009 (Wed), 15:18
Guess the moon looks the same in the UK as Canada!!

300mm f/2.8 IS plus 2X Extender in the day f/8 1/400 ISO 100...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2475/3678647161_bf80cdc9a1_o.jpg

Dorman
1st of July 2009 (Wed), 15:20
Wow, this shot is amazing!

How about seeing things in a different way?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3598/3457957396_d61fa65572_o.jpg

Tony-S
1st of July 2009 (Wed), 15:34
Must...stop...looking...at...this...archive...

Seriously awesome shot. Are you telling us this lens tracks this fast, or was this a manual focus on a spot with the hopes of getting it in the focal plane wiht fps?

How about seeing things in a different way?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3598/3457957396_d61fa65572_o.jpg

AlistairD
1st of July 2009 (Wed), 17:48
The same day as I posted above 3 hours later...

300mm f/2.8 IS plus 2X Extender...f/8 1/50 ISO 100 and cropped...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2485/3679050671_f75de52bf0_o.jpg

keith breazeal
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 11:32
candid from a motorcycle shoot yesterday...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2542/3687526142_05d5821def_b.jpg

FlyingPhotog
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 15:19
^^^ Speaks Volumes ^^^

keith breazeal
4th of July 2009 (Sat), 15:40
The 300 is an interesting portrait lens if you are willing to carry it all day. Some other shots are on the 10-22mm thread: http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=312255&page=161 *also the previous page( 160) (!!!)

jvmanolis
6th of July 2009 (Mon), 13:25
candid from a motorcycle shoot yesterday...



http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2542/3687526142_05d5821def_b.jpg


do you think these are real? :D:D

FlyingPhotog
6th of July 2009 (Mon), 13:25
do you think these are real? :D:D

It's definately a real lens .. I have one as well... :p

Bill634
6th of July 2009 (Mon), 13:40
God I hate silcone boobs. No offense to either the lens or the photographer.

Harleypugs
6th of July 2009 (Mon), 13:43
Must...stop...looking...at...this...archive...

Seriously awesome shot. Are you telling us this lens tracks this fast, or was this a manual focus on a spot with the hopes of getting it in the focal plane wiht fps?


The lens locks well...no issues...but this was a MF shot....;)

Jon

randyk
6th of July 2009 (Mon), 14:05
God I hate silcone boobs. No offense to either the lens or the photographer.

And why do biker chicks always look so tough? Is that what the clientele demands?

keith breazeal
7th of July 2009 (Tue), 12:42
And why do biker chicks always look so tough? Is that what the clientele demands?

I agree. I'm given an opportunity to shoot without hand picking the models at these events. I think the market drives the style. Like TV shows, every year it seems shows get sexier and more violent. I'm old school for the most part- actually I'm just old. :)

keith breazeal
8th of July 2009 (Wed), 02:56
I went up in the mountains to shoot the moonrise and the ISS flyover tonight.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3652/3699903387_290497a4d5_b.jpg

International Space Station flyover 7 July 2009

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3449/3699892517_15f627ebc0_b.jpg

Lots of atmosperic distorion that made it even difficult to focus. The colors were awesome though.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2502/3701666713_8b6d5f1cb6_b.jpg

Gabe63
8th of July 2009 (Wed), 20:54
^^^ Speaks Volumes ^^^

Like 550cc's of silicone?

keith breazeal
9th of July 2009 (Thu), 17:27
Here is a composite I put together today...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2444/3705474260_b4b390b71e_b.jpg