Arizona POTN get together?

[ToferPhotography]

Here is something I ran across if anyone is interested...........
http://www.mypublisher.com/index.php

I have used simliar with Blurb.com (http://www.blurb.com/home/1/) and have been very pleased with their work!

[Guerry Dalrymple]

I got my 40D and a 17-55 f28 IS. Got to go shoot this weekend. Looks like we will try BTA Sunday morning. Hope Nancy lets me use the new lens some.

Guerry:D

[Tom O]

Tom, good luck with restraining yourself from getting new lenses :-)[/quote]

Dis..it's getting harder by the day..been doing some research to see what I really need.LOL..:lol:

[disneydork06]

About 5 miles out of Springerville.
wow, that's out there. never been out by that side of az before...

[disneydork06]

Tom, good luck with restraining yourself from getting new lenses :-)

Dis..it's getting harder by the day..been doing some research to see what I really need.LOL..:lol:[/quote]
haha...so what do you already have?

[FlyingPhotog]

If folks are thinking Wickenburg/Hassayampa, then you ought to toss the Vulture Mine in the mix as well...

[azphotos]

Check back with me in mid April and I should have one.

WOOT! Congrats!

This was in the AZ Republic last week.... I always pull out things like this and put them in a file of "places to see"... Could be interesting to take pictures of the area... Not so far away as BTA... plenty of wilderness around..... who knows what we'd find.

Looks like it's just past Lake pleasant, maybe north-east of the upper west end of the lake? It's hard to tell on the map, but I know where Castle Hot Springs Road is... If nothing else, we shoot the lake....

Interesting to anyone?



I saw that article too Kristy and it sounded like a nice day trip. Let me know.



A couple of shots from this morning... I picked up a few feathers yesterday and shot some macro. This is with the Sigma 180mm macro ... no tubes or TC on the camera. That is the next challenge... I have a few more feathers to photograph... different patterns/colors.


Nice Hatch. Glad to see you are having some fun. Thanks for sharing.

[Tom O]

Dis..it's getting harder by the day..been doing some research to see what I really need.LOL..:lol:
haha...so what do you already have?[/quote]

Not much Dis...the kit lens of course and like I said I just got a 28-135 IS from Brendan. From my 35mm days I have a 35-80 (also a kit lens) and a Sigma 70-300. Buy after using the IS lens the others have to go:eek:

[macroshooter1970]

Tom, good luck with restraining yourself from getting new lenses :-)

Dis..it's getting harder by the day..been doing some research to see what I really need.LOL..:lol:

well , hope you really do research and don't buy on impulse because of what others have. good luck

[Tom O]

well , hope you really do research and don't buy on impulse because of what others have. good luck

LOL....that post was a tongue-in-cheek comment..:) Waaay too experienced (old) to do those sort of things anymore.

[macroshooter1970]

LOL....that post was a tongue-in-cheek comment..:) Waaay too experienced (old) to do those sort of things anymore.

good to hear Tom :),your not old just wise'er'er haha have a good morning.

[disneydork06]

haha...so what do you already have?

Not much Dis...the kit lens of course and like I said I just got a 28-135 IS from Brendan. From my 35mm days I have a 35-80 (also a kit lens) and a Sigma 70-300. Buy after using the IS lens the others have to go:eek:[/quote]
if you have the 18-55, keep that for awhile cause it's hard to find a cheap wide angle for your camera. :-)

[macroshooter1970]

Ryan, are you in Flagstaff today. whats is like over there? cold any snow, also how long from Flag to the south rim if you know.

[Kristy]

If folks are thinking Wickenburg/Hassayampa, then you ought to toss the Vulture Mine in the mix as well...

Where is that? Never heard of it..... Got a link for reading? Could be interesting.

[macroshooter1970]

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Vulture+Mine+

[disneydork06]

Ryan, are you in Flagstaff today. whats is like over there? cold any snow, also how long from Flag to the south rim if you know.
no, cold, yes some snow but only looks like it, it's more like ice now, and about 1.5-2 hrs depending on traffic. but mostly about 1.5 hrs, I haven't gone since...spring of 2004.

[macroshooter1970]

no, cold, yes some snow but only looks like it, it's more like ice now, and about 1.5-2 hrs depending on traffic. but mostly about 1.5 hrs, I haven't gone since...spring of 2004.


thanks, my times were off. 1.5 hrs seems good.

[disneydork06]

your times were off? you thought it was closer or further away?

[Drewaz]

Just found the group ... let me know of any activities!

Drew

[macroshooter1970]

Just found the group ... let me know of any activities!

Drew

what took you so long haha.....welcome

[Drewaz]

what took you so long haha.....welcome

Thanks!

Drew

[FlyingPhotog]

Just found the group ... let me know of any activities!

Drew

'Bout time you showed up...! <j/k>

Welcome to our little corner of photography heaven.

Jay in Chandler

[Drewaz]

Thanks buddy. I hope some of your talent wears off on me!

Drew




'Bout time you showed up...! <j/k>

Welcome to our little corner of photography heaven.

Jay in Chandler

[ScottDR]

Welcome Drew!

Jay have fun tomorrow, would love to hear how you got started in your career.

Brendan and Guerry, what time tomorrow? I'm thinking at least by the time the exhibit starts.

[FlyingPhotog]

Welcome Drew!

Jay have fun tomorrow, would love to hear how you got started in your career.

Brendan and Guerry, what time tomorrow? I'm thinking at least by the time the exhibit starts.

It all started at a 100 watt radio station in Iowa... ;)

BTW, I'm severly outgunned here:
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=447196

[Guerry Dalrymple]

Nancy and I are planning to be out there between 9 and 10.

[Guerry Dalrymple]

Just found the group ... let me know of any activities!

Drew


Welcome Drew. Nancy and I are new too. This is a great group to bounce things off of. You have some interesting shots on your home page. I look forward to seeing more.

Guerry

[Drewaz]

Welcome Drew. Nancy and I are new too. This is a great group to bounce things off of. You have some interesting shots on your home page. I look forward to seeing more.

Guerry

Thanks! I hope to get to attend one of the outings ....

Drew

[Tom O]

if you have the 18-55, keep that for awhile cause it's hard to find a cheap wide angle for your camera. :-)[/quote]

Good advice DIS..thanks

[Tom O]

Welcome aboard Drew. I'm new here as well but am having fun talking with these folks. Tomorrow a few are heading out to Boyce Thompson Arboretum for some fun & clicking. Great if you could make it.

[Cascavel]

I'll try to get out there about 9:30 or so. Hopefully the weather is going to cooperate.

[Drewaz]

Welcome aboard Drew. I'm new here as well but am having fun talking with these folks. Tomorrow a few are heading out to Boyce Thompson Arboretum for some fun & clicking. Great if you could make it.

Thanks for the invite Tom but I will be on a plane heading east for a work trip. Hope you have a good day .... might be nice with some clouds.

Drew

[ScottDR]

Sorry you can't make it Drew! I'll see you all there by 10 then :). I agree Brendan, hope it doesn't rain!

[ScottDR]

It all started at a 100 watt radio station in Iowa... ;)

BTW, I'm severly outgunned here:
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=447196

Ok, first off Jay-Iowa? I'm from a very small NW Iowa town-such a small world. I've always been interested in running a video camera.

Secondly, out-gunned doesn't sum that up! Hehehe

[FlyingPhotog]

Ok, first off Jay-Iowa? I'm from a very small NW Iowa town-such a small world. I've always been interested in running a video camera.

Secondly, out-gunned doesn't sum that up! Hehehe

I hate when comedy meets irony...

I was actually stealing a line from the old Mary Tyler Moore show where news anchor Ted Baxter (played by Ted Knight) always used to start his life story with his earliest days at a "100 watt radio station in Iowa..."

Believe it or not, I was a broadcasting major in college (Central Michigan University.) I've held lots of different types of postitions in a variety of facilities from editing houses to studios to duplication plants (aka dub shops) but since about 1987, I've been a free lancer with the bulk of my work being in large format live sports. Large format in this case refers to the fact it's a production that needs multiple production units and many, many cameras and replay machines. I'd guesstimate that 90% of my work has been as a slo-mo replay operator with some editing work as well. I can run a camera and I do have some other skills but the replay world is my bag.

I won't give you the whole resume but I've done NFL, NBA, MLB, NCAA, NHL, PGA, LPGA at both the local and national level and currently I make most of my scratch off NASCAR for FOX and TNT. In fact, I'm off to Daytona next week.

Along the way I've been fortunate to garner seven Emmy awards (four national and three from the Rocky Mountain region.) And yes, the national awards do come in the form of the big, gold statue of a winged lady holding a globe. Unfortunately, we have to buy our own statues but it's worth it...!

That's me in a nutshell... :)

[disneydork06]

Hello Drew! welcome. hope to see you at an outing sometime whenever I can make it myself :-P

[disneydork06]

Wow Jay, that's quite a slim picking of a resume there. have any pics of the big gold statue :-)

[disneydork06]

oh and Jay, quick question. how long does it actually take you to get a shot of that "instant replay" to be viewed during live shows?

[FlyingPhotog]

One of my proudest moments: Bringing my first Emmy to show to my late Father.

[FlyingPhotog]

oh and Jay, quick question. how long does it actually take you to get a shot of that "instant replay" to be viewed during live shows?

Owing to the fact that we now use hard-drive based devices, we can cue up the action while it's happening (and still be in record the whole time.) For lack of a better term, I'm a professional TiVO operator... :lol:

[disneydork06]

Owing to the fact that we now use hard-drive based devices, we can cue up the action while it's happening (and still be in record the whole time.) For lack of a better term, I'm a professional TiVO operator... :lol:
lol, nice. such an interesting job and you get to be around a lot of sports. I wish I could find a job where I can be around sports as well.

[azphotos]

More Noobs! Welcome Drew.

[ScottDR]

I hate when comedy meets irony...

I was actually stealing a line from the old Mary Tyler Moore show where news anchor Ted Baxter (played by Ted Knight) always used to start his life story with his earliest days at a "100 watt radio station in Iowa..."

Believe it or not, I was a broadcasting major in college (Central Michigan University.) I've held lots of different types of postitions in a variety of facilities from editing houses to studios to duplication plants (aka dub shops) but since about 1987, I've been a free lancer with the bulk of my work being in large format live sports. Large format in this case refers to the fact it's a production that needs multiple production units and many, many cameras and replay machines. I'd guesstimate that 90% of my work has been as a slo-mo replay operator with some editing work as well. I can run a camera and I do have some other skills but the replay world is my bag.

I won't give you the whole resume but I've done NFL, NBA, MLB, NCAA, NHL, PGA, LPGA at both the local and national level and currently I make most of my scratch off NASCAR for FOX and TNT. In fact, I'm off to Daytona next week.

Along the way I've been fortunate to garner seven Emmy awards (four national and three from the Rocky Mountain region.) And yes, the national awards do come in the form of the big, gold statue of a winged lady holding a globe. Unfortunately, we have to buy our own statues but it's worth it...!

FlyingPhotogOne of my proudest moments: Bringing my first Emmy to show to my late Father.

Ok, that's hillarious about the Ted Baxter line as I thought 'gee, that did sound familiar'.*slaps forehead* :)

I agree with Ryan, quite a resume, and that photo was a terrific moment!

Have you ever done the official 'Tivo' work at a Formula 1 event? That's the only sport I am into but your experience is incredible. You have made quite a name for yourself with Emmy's to boot, congrats!!!

Ok, off to Boyce Thompson.

[ECB]

Lots of Az residents..wow..

I am new to photography, and fairly new to AZ. Just thought i would pop in and say "hello"


Dave-

[FlyingPhotog]

Lots of Az residents..wow..

I am new to photography, and fairly new to AZ. Just thought i would pop in and say "hello"


Dave-

Welcome! Where are you located?

[macroshooter1970]

Lots of Az residents..wow..

I am new to photography, and fairly new to AZ. Just thought i would pop in and say "hello"


Dave-


you popped into the right place, welcome.

[disneydork06]

Lots of Az residents..wow..

I am new to photography, and fairly new to AZ. Just thought i would pop in and say "hello"


Dave-

you popped into the right place, welcome.
you definitely did. Welcome! so what type of stuff do you like to photograph?

[Az2Africa]

I leave town for a couple of days and more new people show up. Welcome everyone!!
I just got back from the PMA show in Vegas and my head is still spinning. The Canon exibit was amazing. Several pros were there doing studio lighting demos as well as displaying the use of the wireless technology. The only new cameras there were the XTsi and the 1Ds MkIII. I got to play with the 1Ds using several different lenses. I would love to have one!
There were hundreds of booths with everything you can imagine. The most impressive to me was the Eizo monitors. The color and sharpness was incredible, so I'm ordering one. I'll post more later or answer questions if anybody has any.

[Hatch1921]

It sounds like you had a great time at the event. How impressed with the MK3 were you? I can't think of a situation where I would need 21 mpx for prints... It would be nice to have but... I would have to buy another computer to handle the files. LOL

Fill us in when you've rested. :)

Hatch

[cntry]

Welcome to all new folks, Yeah I should went with you to PMA Terry.

[ECB]

you definitely did. Welcome! so what type of stuff do you like to photograph?


Thanks everyone for the warm welcome..

I am located in the mesa/queen creek area.

I have mostly been taking photos of my dogs, and the dogs of friends, and some landscape stuff. But i am interested in all aspects of photography. I wanted to try and drive around tomorrow and find some nice urban areas not sure if anyone can recommend anything.

I need to get a wider lens. I am currently stuck in what seems like a common problem 17-55 IS or 24-70 2.8L..lol

Thanks again.

[Kristy]

Hi Dave and Drew! :) Welcome to our little corner on POTN... I've said that about 15 times this month... LOL...

Anway, this place has been moving quickly lately so it takes a bit of reading to keep up. If we miss something, just post it again... just in case... :)

Almost time for another outing... we have a couple of things on the table.. so it will be interesting to see where we land.

Welcome Home Terry! Glad you enjoyed the PMA... Fun times huh?! Sounds like you were bombarded with information. Fun to play with new toys and see the latest and greatest stuff. Did you have a chance to meet any new photographer friends?

Happy Superbowl Everyone! :)

[Hatch1921]

24-70 $984.00 (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?shs=ps1107wpejx&ci=0&sb=ps&pn=1&sq=desc&InitialSearch=yes&O=productlist.jsp&A=search&Q=*&bhs=t)

17-55 $854.00 (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?shs=ps1107se5k4&ci=0&sb=ps&pn=1&sq=desc&InitialSearch=yes&O=productlist.jsp&A=search&Q=*&bhs=t)

Discounts for B&H

Welcome to the group. I have the 24-70...Kristy owns a copy... Ceasar owns the 17-55 I think?

The 24-70 I have is wicked sharp... the focal range on the FF 5D is just great. The lens is well worth the money IMO. I haven't shot with the 17-55. I've read good things about is as well.

PHOTO LINK (http://www.flickr.com/photos/hatch1921/2146978340/sizes/o/) Just a test shot when first bought the lens... no sharpening other than the default settings in RAW.

Hatch

[ECB]

Thanks Hatch for the help-

I have a 30d so i figured the 17-55 may better suit me, but i gotta say i am kinda turned off by the dust issues.

Seems like the 17-55 is also out of stock everywhere.


btw-They should add regional sections to POTN.

[azphotos]

More noobs! Welcome ECB.

Sounds like you had a good time Terry. Fun playing with all those toys! :D

[JmprSteve]

I found this tutorial at Light-essentials.com by Don Giannatti, this covers some really simple lighting set-ups (both strobes and speedlights). I've attended one of Don's workshops and really enjoyed it as well as learned alot.
I hope you find this interesting... also, check out his other tutorials, it's always interesting to see how others go about "just taking pictures".

http://www.lighting-essentials.com/january08/beautyshots.html

[Tom O]

Hi Dave...welcome to AZ and this place..

[Adam B.]

I found this tutorial at Light-essentials.com by Don Giannatti, this covers some really simple lighting set-ups (both strobes and speedlights). I've attended one of Don's workshops and really enjoyed it as well as learned alot.
I hope you find this interesting... also, check out his other tutorials, it's always interesting to see how others go about "just taking pictures".

http://www.lighting-essentials.com/january08/beautyshots.html

Thanks for the link Steve. Good stuff indeed.

[skatchkins]

Wow, we have our own thread?
Cool.
Thanks cntry for the link to and hello AZ.

[disneydork06]

Hello skatchkins :-)

[cntry]

Here's a few of the Jeep............
1. Lift with old tires 7 Days ago...
http://bamphoto.com/POTN/jeep1.jpg

2. With New Tires no rear shocks lol had to move and reweld....
http://bamphoto.com/POTN/jeep2.jpg

3. Home with Shocks installed.......
http://bamphoto.com/POTN/jeep3.jpg

4. About an Hour ago :)
http://bamphoto.com/POTN/jeep4.jpg

A foot already and still snowing.........

[disneydork06]

lucky! it already stopped out here in flag. i see some dark clouds but no snow. but at least we already have our snow day :-)

[Rutha73]

Welcome to all the new people! cntry- nice looking rig you got there! makes me wish I had got a 4wd truck! Does anyone think that This Photo (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=447193) needs to have the buildings cloned out that are near the bottom of the mountain? I put it in Travel and Landscapes and no one wants to answer that question after i put it up

[FlyingPhotog]

For those who watched, I hope you enjoyed our efforts at Glendale on Sunday... Apparently, SBXLII goes in the books as the second hightest watched TV program of all time (behind only the finale of M*A*S*H) so that's cool.

Unfortunately, my professional duties prohibited me from being anywhere near the action or the aftermath. Some guys went inside to get a pic of the confetti carnage but I didn't get a chance to do the same. 19-hour day on Sunday (63 hrs total for the week) which is a nice way to start the year before heading to Daytona tomorrow. Now to make some serious cash! :)

I'll attempt to lurk and drop an occasional note from Florida with maybe a pic or two along the way. "Scenes From The Road 2008" will commence on PBase sometime after I get back since there's not enough bandwith (or editing time) to do much from the road.

[disneydork06]

That was a great show on sunday Jay! with that close game especially with the last 5 min of the 4th quarter. could not have done any better. Oh, and enjoy Daytona! I miss Orlando myself so i'm kinda jealous that you're going out to FL.

[skatchkins]

Congrats Cntry on the lift. Looks great.

Even I got a little snow this afternoon in Glendale :shock:

[Larry Conley]

Jay.....
I wasn't at the game but we all want to thank you and your staff for bring us the 2nd most watched program ever!! What a great Job! Have a safe trip to Fl.

[ToferPhotography]

just checking in from wet Seattle,... hello and welcome to our new NOOB's!!

[Tom O]

Welcome to all the new people! cntry- nice looking rig you got there! makes me wish I had got a 4wd truck! Does anyone think that This Photo (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=447193) needs to have the buildings cloned out that are near the bottom of the mountain? I put it in Travel and Landscapes and no one wants to answer that question after i put it up

Great shot!! Saw editing was Ok so I did a fast one just to see the difference of houses vs. no houses (could go either way as far as I'm concerned)..took speed limit sign out as well as white post in lower left hand side. As you can see I took houses to the left of the road out & left those on the right so you can decide which you like best..

Ooops..gotta shrink the photo:o

[Tom O]

Hope this works..

[FlyingPhotog]

That was a great show on sunday Jay! with that close game especially with the last 5 min of the 4th quarter. could not have done any better. Oh, and enjoy Daytona! I miss Orlando myself so i'm kinda jealous that you're going out to FL.

Thanks Ryan... If our traditional day off pans out (and I have the energy) I may boogie over to Animal Kingdom or EPCOT.

Jay.....
I wasn't at the game but we all want to thank you and your staff for bring us the 2nd most watched program ever!! What a great Job! Have a safe trip to Fl.

Thank You Larry. Probably the best part of the entire night was seeing how happy our director and producer were when it was over. The director was happy because we had a good, clean show. The producer, well, he's a Giant's fan so he got some extra icing on the cake!

Type to you all later from Florida!

[Larry Conley]

Tom
I must admit..I am a fan of no houses....I like the look before the settles came here (HA)

[disneydork06]

Thanks Ryan... If our traditional day off pans out (and I have the energy) I may boogie over to Animal Kingdom or EPCOT.
Type to you all later from Florida!

LUCKY! i wish I could go visit as a guest, yet still have all the access areas of a castmember again :-P anyways, I hope you get to go. the safari is so fun when you have a nice camera :-) I was able to take some photos of one of the giraffes "attacking", ok more like protecting its young from us in the vehicle. :-P i have it on my flickr somewhere....anyways, enjoy the rain!

[Rutha73]

Tom- thanks, i think i like the no houses one better, it makes it look more desolate and rugged, just the one lonely road leading in and out. if you don't mind me asking, what did you use to get rid of them?
Jay- the only problem i had with the game is that COX lost coverage for the first quarter and a half where I was, so nothing you all could have fixed!!! Great game!!
Thanks to everyone for leaving feedback in the Travel & Landscape thread also. I will probly go back and shoot Superstition again by this weekend, might try to get farther away from the road and take that out of the photo also.

[azpix]

Hello all.

Rutha just made me aware of this thread. Good to see so many AZ shoooters and have a place to converse.

[FlyingPhotog]

Pssst, Tammie...

WE GOT US ANOTHER CHANDLER-ite!

Today POTN, tommorow, the East Valley and beyond!

Muhahahaha.....

[disneydork06]

be careful...us west valleyens are growing in numbers too :-)

[Tom O]

Tom
I must admit..I am a fan of no houses....I like the look before the settles came here (HA)

Larry, I agree. No houses makes it look more rugged & unsettled to me

[quote=Rutha73;4853370]Tom- thanks, i think i like the no houses one better, it makes it look more desolate and rugged, just the one lonely road leading in and out. if you don't mind me asking, what did you use to get rid of them?

Rutha, I'm still using Elements 2...I know..I know.. Elements 6 just came out:o..Maybe someday I'll update...I just don't rush into things..LOL

Specifically, I used the Clone Stamp Tool to take the houses out. I take it you are out here in the far east valley as I am so if you need help with that sometimes just let me know. Pretty easy once you see it.

ps..Rutha..these chandlerites & westvallens are starting to get out of hand..maybe we need a far east valley recruiting campaign!!:eek:

[thoreau]

these chandlerites & westvallens are starting to get out of hand..maybe we need a far east valley recruiting campaign!!:eek:

Just a little fun to see whereabouts everyone calls home here in the valley...

I created a quick and dirty Frappr map for everyone to try out...

http://xanthotech.com/

Just go there and click on 'Add yourself' on the left side. Color coded pins and all just for the Phoenix crew here at POTN =) Be sure to go with zip codes for the location so we don't just get a ton of dots on the center of Phoenix, hehe.

[azhikr]

Hello All!

Guess I should jump in here- I'm in the northwest valley. I'll keep checkin' back here occasionally- I'd like to be involved with the next POTN AZ get together!

Mike

[Kristy]

http://edpierceseminars.com/index.php

I just registered for this seminar... I know several of us are planning to go, so as the date gets closer, maybe we can plan to meet somewhere 15 minutes ahead of time?

Anyway, here's the link in case anyone else decides to run off on Valentine's Day... Guess we'll be pushing our Valentines Day back one day.... :) My kiddos know that they get lots of heart shaped food for dinner.... so this was a tough one to talk them out of... LOL... Anyway, I'm in... Happy Tuesday!

[Kristy]

Hello All!

Guess I should jump in here- I'm in the northwest valley. I'll keep checkin' back here occasionally- I'd like to be involved with the next POTN AZ get together!

Mike

Hey Mike and AZ Pix...... :)

Welcome to our Corner... It's alwalys fun to get new friends, and we have gotten so many new friends in the last several weeks... I think there must be at least 10 new people now.. I can't keep up anymore.

Anyway, I think AZ Pix takes pictures of people.. (YAY! Another people person!).... So what do you like to shoot Mike?

Do either of you have a gallery somewhere that we can peek at? It's always fun to see what other people are up to.

[Kristy]

Welcome to all the new people! cntry- nice looking rig you got there! makes me wish I had got a 4wd truck! Does anyone think that This Photo (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=447193) needs to have the buildings cloned out that are near the bottom of the mountain? I put it in Travel and Landscapes and no one wants to answer that question after i put it up


Hey Jake...

I did a quick edit on these for you here... http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=4853743&postcount=19

Your original had a lot of green in it.. I tried to pull some of it out... but not sure if I did a good job on the color or not...

I thought it needed less color, more shadow and maybe a different crop. The clouds are amazing... You can really play with clouds and make them look dramatic with a little shadow/highlight play... also if you burn the edges of the shadows, they become more dimensional...

A little contrast added through USM, and couple other things... Anyway, hope you like... :)

[BrianAZ]

So did anyone run out and get some pics of the superstitions yesterday or this morning? Seems we got some snow on the mountains.

[FlyingPhotog]

Just a little fun to see whereabouts everyone calls home here in the valley...

I created a quick and dirty Frappr map for everyone to try out...

http://xanthotech.com/

Just go there and click on 'Add yourself' on the left side. Color coded pins and all just for the Phoenix crew here at POTN =)

Cool!

I'm in...

[disneydork06]

Hello All!

Guess I should jump in here- I'm in the northwest valley. I'll keep checkin' back here occasionally- I'd like to be involved with the next POTN AZ get together!

Mike
Welcome Mike! I too live in the northwest valley but currently I'm there not often because I go to school up at NAU.

[cntry]

Kristi,
I'm registered, but might not be able to make it, so as soon as I know I will upload the ticket for someone else and maybe they can make me a copy od the dvd. Not sure if you will have to show ID??

[azhikr]

Thanks for the warm welcome - Kristy and Disney..

I got into photography because I was into hiking (hence my username), but I've become much more interested in all facets- including portraiture! I have a lot to learn about lighting. I don't have a gallery, but would like to get one- any tips?

Hope to meet you in person sometime!
Mike

[disneydork06]

Mike (azhikr) there is a lot of web based galleries online. A few of us, as well as myself, use flickr.com for our photos. Some also use pbase. and those are the only ones that I know about. So let me tell you about flickr. It's free, up to a certain point. you are limited in your uploads per month and you can have 200 photos visible for people to see. for an additional $25 you can go "pro" and have unlimited uploads and visible photos. I like it. I actually have some podcasts that I listen to that also refer to flickr. but that's just my take on it. just do a little research and ask us any questions if you have any :-) happy shooting

[Tom O]

Thanks for the warm welcome - Kristy and Disney..

I got into photography because I was into hiking (hence my username), but I've become much more interested in all facets- including portraiture! I have a lot to learn about lighting. I don't have a gallery, but would like to get one- any tips?

Hope to meet you in person sometime!
Mike

Hi Mike & Welcome..there are bunches of photo sharing sites to pick from. Some are totally free but you put up with ads etc. Some you pay for but not much about $20-$25/year with a few more than that. Seems like the most popular are zenfolio, flickr and pbase. All these are used by members here and they all seem to like where they are. I just put mine up on zenfolio. I just liked the layout etc. When you decide on one, get in touch with a member here already on it and they will no doubt have a discount code for you that takes $5.00 off your first year and they will get the same credit for their next year for the referral.

[Rutha73]

ps..Rutha..these chandlerites & westvallens are starting to get out of hand..maybe we need a far east valley recruiting campaign!!:eek:

We will have to hit the local parks and photo spots and recruit more!!! I am up for hanging out at Goldfield Ghost Town! ... the only other thing to do would be to somehow reduce the number of Chandlerites.... :twisted:
OOOOPS did I type that out loud...

Hey Jake...

I did a quick edit on these for you here... http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=4853743&postcount=19

Your original had a lot of green in it.. I tried to pull some of it out... but not sure if I did a good job on the color or not...

I thought it needed less color, more shadow and maybe a different crop. The clouds are amazing... You can really play with clouds and make them look dramatic with a little shadow/highlight play... also if you burn the edges of the shadows, they become more dimensional...

A little contrast added through USM, and couple other things... Anyway, hope you like... :)

I like those edits, your B&W conversions are great, but one of the reasons I like the photo was the bright blue sky and the white clouds:D. I am still not comfortable with the burn tool, I tried it once and i couldn't make it look right, but I really like the color version you did!

[Tom O]

[quote=Kristy;4855532]http://edpierceseminars.com/index.php

I just registered for this seminar... I know several of us are planning to go, so as the date gets closer, maybe we can plan to meet somewhere 15 minutes ahead of time?

Hi Kristy...I'm all signed up, ticket in hand ready to go. Looks to be a good one. So did the kids hold you up for more goodies so you could get away..LOL

[Tom O]

Kristi,
I'm registered, but might not be able to make it, so as soon as I know I will upload the ticket for someone else and maybe they can make me a copy od the dvd. Not sure if you will have to show ID??

cntry..if you can't make it and nobody can use your ticket, I'll cut you a copy of the DVD's..no problem..

[Larry Conley]

thoreau,
The flapper is such a cool idea..Thanks! I added myself...we chandler-ites need to stick together....

[Larry Conley]

Tom

Are you going to be at Goldfield this Sat?

[Tom O]

Tom

Are you going to be at Goldfield this Sat?

You betcha..come on out Larry & we will do some clicking..Saturday I won't be a gunslinger as I have several characters I do and this saturday I think 'ole lewshuss is going to show up..you might like him 'cuz he is a womanizin' town drunk:evil:..The tourist women don't have a chance:lol:

[Larry Conley]

I won't miss that for the world ..I should be arriving there on the *noon* stage....or as soon as the noon stage gets there !

[Tom O]

Larry don't tell rutha we may get together saturday..you bein' a chandlerite and all!!!

[Tom O]

I won't miss that for the world ..I should be arriving there on the *noon* stage....or as soon as the noon stage gets there !


Great..lookin forward to it...we will have some fun that's for sure

[Larry Conley]

shhhhhhhhhhhh I won't say a word..............

[Tom O]

Larry...Here's something I'm looking forward to tomorrow at the ghost town. A few of us have been asked to be there as Arizona Highways magazine is doing some sort of article/photo shoot. Don't care much about gettin my picture taken (normal everyday occurence there) BUT I'm interested in seeing what their photogs show up with equipment wise.

[Larry Conley]

Tom..I'll see you Sat..I have to go and grab some dinner..talk with you later.

[Tom O]

shhhhhhhhhhhh I won't say a word..............

Actually you are safe as rutha and I haven't decided on a chandlerite reduction plan yet:lol:

[disneydork06]

Larry...Here's something I'm looking forward to tomorrow at the ghost town. A few of us have been asked to be there as Arizona Highways magazine is doing some sort of article/photo shoot. Don't care much about gettin my picture taken (normal everyday occurence there) BUT I'm interested in seeing what their photogs show up with equipment wise.
I'm gonna guess color slide film with their 35mm cameras :-P
Tom, how are the chili cookoffs there? just saw there's going to be one on the 16th there. but I also gotta see how long it would take for me to get there as well.

[macroshooter1970]

how many mike's are here now?

[Tom O]

I'm gonna guess color slide film with their 35mm cameras :-P
Tom, how are the chili cookoffs there? just saw there's going to be one on the 16th there. but I also gotta see how long it would take for me to get there as well.

Ryan..you are correct, the 16th is the annual chili cookoff. Amazingly enough, chili folks come from all over the US for this??:rolleyes: Last year the whole main street was lined with chili experts cookin away. I think you 'bought' a cup for a $5.00 donation and then you could hit all the vendors and test their chili. No gunfights that sat. as the streets are full of vendors etc. But the town is full of folks so if you are into shooting people it's a great venue.

[Adam B.]

Actually you are safe as rutha and I haven't decided on a chandlerite reduction plan yet:lol:

We don't need a Chandlerite reduction plan, we seriously need a MIKE reduction plan.:lol:

[skatchkins]

I'm a Mike and I don't like no feedback

[ScottDR]

Ok, playing catch up as usual :). I'm going to put a stick-pin on my location (although that site is giving me troubles at the moment).

Welcome newbies!!! I'm sure you will find this a great group!

I think Tom and Kristy and possibly others mentioned meeting up 15 minutes early (or even a bit earlier sounds great to me) on the 14th. Sounds like a plan, I'm in!

[macroshooter1970]

We don't need a Chandlerite reduction plan, we seriously need a MIKE reduction plan.:lol:


tell me about it

[Larry Conley]

Tom.

What time are they going to be thre today?

[Tom O]

Tom.

What time are they going to be thre today?

They are supposed to be there at around 11:00am and it's supposed to be an all day affair. Of course these types of things never go as planned and are usually very anti-climatic.:rolleyes: I'm going out about 9:30 as I am scheduled for jeep tours today. (I drive part time for Apache Trail Tours out of Goldfield)..it's been pretty slow for tours so will probably be there all day. I'm going to take my camera so I got something to do besides play with the touristas.:lol:

[Tom O]

I think Tom and Kristy and possibly others mentioned meeting up 15 minutes early (or even a bit earlier sounds great to me) on the 14th. Sounds like a plan, I'm in!

Name the time Scott..Is anyone going to take their camera??

[disneydork06]

They are supposed to be there at around 11:00am and it's supposed to be an all day affair. Of course these types of things never go as planned and are usually very anti-climatic.:rolleyes: I'm going out about 9:30 as I am scheduled for jeep tours today. (I drive part time for Apache Trail Tours out of Goldfield)..it's been pretty slow for tours so will probably be there all day. I'm going to take my camera so I got something to do besides play with the touristas.:lol:
you kinda sound like me when I worked at disneyworld. The only thing to do while working out there and nothing to do is play and talk with the tourists.

[cntry]

Thanks Tom,
They just changed the job from 6-10's to 7-12's so the schedule might be a little tighter than I thought.

cntry..if you can't make it and nobody can use your ticket, I'll cut you a copy of the DVD's..no problem..

[evelasco]

Hey guys, just thought I would say hello. I'm new to this forum. It seems that a lot of you are landscape photographers, but I wanted to know if any of you do fashion or model ports? If so I have one scheduled at the end of the month and am looking for a cool location. Probably somewhere in Phx or the East Valley. I'm looking for a cool architectual building, restaurant or diner, furniture place or somewhere that will let me shoot in their place. Any suggestions? It's high fashion, so dramatic is the look. Thanks for your help!

[cntry]

Here's a link B-H just sent me they must have me confused with someone else.......
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/find/newsLetter/Mother-of-All-L-Lenses.jsp

[disneydork06]

Hey guys, just thought I would say hello. I'm new to this forum. It seems that a lot of you are landscape photographers, but I wanted to know if any of you do fashion or model ports? If so I have one scheduled at the end of the month and am looking for a cool location. Probably somewhere in Phx or the East Valley. I'm looking for a cool architectual building, restaurant or diner, furniture place or somewhere that will let me shoot in their place. Any suggestions? It's high fashion, so dramatic is the look. Thanks for your help!
it might be easier to find a privately owned place and ask them to see if they would allow you to take pictures in their place.
Here's a link B-H just sent me they must have me confused with someone else.......
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/find/newsLetter/Mother-of-All-L-Lenses.jsp
I love how a person can use a 1.4 or 2x tc on those things :-)

[Hatch1921]

Our little corner of the web is growing and growing. Welcome to all the new people. I'm sure we will meet each other at some point. When and where is the next outing going to take place?

Hatch

[Rutha73]

Here's a link B-H just sent me they must have me confused with someone else.......
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/find/newsLetter/Mother-of-All-L-Lenses.jsp

I think I will wait for the IS version so I can hand hold it! :grin:

[Hatch1921]

I think I will wait for the IS version so I can hand hold it!

LOL I was impressed with the sample shots... the detail in the shots at a distance of a mile... unreal!!

[disneydork06]

LOL I was impressed with the sample shots... the detail in the shots at a distance of a mile... unreal!!
no kidding. someone can really do some damage a mile away. I was amazed by the numbers they put up if you were to use a 1.6 +tc. I think I posted this already:-P oh wait, didn't mention a camera with 1.6x crop.

[cntry]

How about a get together for "Renaissance Festival" this year??

[Hatch1921]

How about a get together for "Renaissance Festival" this year?? Might be a fun day out...$35 a person...

[disneydork06]

when is the renaissance festival?

[Kristy]

That's funny... a friend just mentioned the Renaissance Fesitval to me today... :)
I've never been either, but it could be interesting... good people photos. :)

[disneydork06]

I've never been either, but it could be interesting... good people photos. :)
yes, we need more people photography don't we :-)

[Kristy]

yes, we need more people photography don't we :-)

You aren't kidding... all these bugs, and flowers, and landscapes... they're beautiful... but I need to practice on people... :)

I saw your last post of the capstone stuff.. I havent' digested it yet, but plan to comment something for you... :)

I think the fill flash in the last shot worked nicely.

[disneydork06]

That's funny... a friend just mentioned the Renaissance Fesitval to me today... :)
I've never been either, but it could be interesting... good people photos. :)

You aren't kidding... all these bugs, and flowers, and landscapes... they're beautiful... but I need to practice on people... :)

I saw your last post of the capstone stuff.. I havent' digested it yet, but plan to comment something for you... :)

I think the fill flash in the last shot worked nicely.
Thank you. basically my first try at that stuff. I like it. I just need to play with my flashes more.

[JmprSteve]

I've been to the Ren Festival in Minneapolis alot of years ago. It's an interesting event, lots of people in costumes to shoot.

This is second hand information about the Phoenix Ren Festival (from a very reliable source):

Renaissance Festival
16 Feb. & 1 Mar. $35 p/person
Take a journey with us back into time to
the Renaissance Era. Over 30 acres of
village and marketplace for you to enjoy
street shows, music, comedy and jousting
performed by over 1000 costumed
characters. You’ll also enjoy feasting,
games and rides over 300 artisans and
crafters provide an excellent shopping
experience.

The entrance fee ($35) is a bit steep, but would be interesting none the less.

[Kristy]

I've been to the Ren Festival in Minneapolis alot of years ago. It's an interesting event, lots of people in costumes to shoot.

This is second hand information about the Phoenix Ren Festival (from a very reliable source):

Renaissance Festival
16 Feb. & 1 Mar. $35 p/person
Take a journey with us back into time to
the Renaissance Era. Over 30 acres of
village and marketplace for you to enjoy
street shows, music, comedy and jousting
performed by over 1000 costumed
characters. You’ll also enjoy feasting,
games and rides over 300 artisans and
crafters provide an excellent shopping
experience.

The entrance fee ($35) is a bit steep, but would be interesting none the less.

THat information looks strangely familiar to me.... LOL!

[disneydork06]

I've been to the Ren Festival in Minneapolis alot of years ago. It's an interesting event, lots of people in costumes to shoot.

This is second hand information about the Phoenix Ren Festival (from a very reliable source):

Renaissance Festival
16 Feb. & 1 Mar. $35 p/person
Take a journey with us back into time to
the Renaissance Era. Over 30 acres of
village and marketplace for you to enjoy
street shows, music, comedy and jousting
performed by over 1000 costumed
characters. You’ll also enjoy feasting,
games and rides over 300 artisans and
crafters provide an excellent shopping
experience.

The entrance fee ($35) is a bit steep, but would be interesting none the less.
$35 is a bit steep...maybe someone could try and find out if we can get a group rate? :-)

[azpix]

Hey AZ shooters.

was wondering if any of you have ever been up to Grand Falls outside of flagstaff. Wondering if it's a worthwhile place to go and shoot. Also trying to find the best time to go.

[azphotos]

Wow - more and more noobs - hi azhikr evelasco azpix and everyone else new I may have missed.

[thoreau]

$35 is a bit steep...maybe someone could try and find out if we can get a group rate? :-)

I'll be headed out this Saturday (opening day for this year I believe) and they have a special if ya hunt around on the renfair website that, assuming my math wasn't pooched up, makes entrance $10/person for opening weekend (per day.)

[BrianAZ]

I haven't been to the Ren Festival in years, but back in the 90's they really gave photographers a hard time (no cameras in the middle ages, you know). Most of the "actors" (carneys really) wouldn't let you take their picture.

[thoreau]

I haven't been to the Ren Festival in years, but back in the 90's they really gave photographers a hard time (no cameras in the middle ages, you know). Most of the "actors" (carneys really) wouldn't let you take their picture.

Just tell them it's not a 'camera' but DaVinci's new-fangled 'Automatic Painting Machine.'

[xpsentity]

Hey AZ shooters.

was wondering if any of you have ever been up to Grand Falls outside of flagstaff. Wondering if it's a worthwhile place to go and shoot. Also trying to find the best time to go.

Grand Falls is VERY cool. Have fun with the directions. It's one of those places that you just have to 'know' how to get there. I'd go after lots of rain (You'll need 4x4, res roads are greeeat), or during snowmelt. The falls are HUGE!

If the water isn't very high, you can hike down and get up behind the falls, on the falls, under the falls, around the falls..

It's funny. There's no 'parking areas' or anything. You'll just drive till you hit the river, then down to the left there's a giant hole in the ground with a massive double step waterfall.

Pics don't do the size justice. It's massive. (http://www.flagstaffcentral.com/Subjects/Nature/Pictures/grandfalls.html)

[cntry]

I would definatley be interested, have a 4x4 can carry 3 + me + gear.

Here is the first set of directions: Latitude: 35.4275 : Longitude: -111.2

Directions: From I-40, 15 miles east of Flagstaff, take exit 211 at Winona. Drive 2.3 miles north to Leupp Rd. Turn right and drive 20.3 miles to unpaved and unsigned Indian Road 6910 (between mileposts 5 and 6). Turn left and drive along this rough road 9.4 miles to the turnoff on the left, which leads to the falls overlook (do not cross the Little Colorado River). Grand Falls can also be accessed from Indian Road 70 (instead of 6910). This road is located 15.0 miles along Leupp Rd (5.3 miles before Road 6910). Follow Road 70 8.4 miles to the same turnoff on the left before the Little Colorado River (Roads 6910 and 70 join together just before the turnoff). I recommend driving along Road 6910 instead of Road 70. Both roads are very rough going and you will need a 4x4 to drive them. But Road 6910 is much easier going and faster than Road 70.

Grand Falls is VERY cool. Have fun with the directions. It's one of those places that you just have to 'know' how to get there. I'd go after lots of rain (You'll need 4x4, res roads are greeeat), or during snowmelt. The falls are HUGE!

If the water isn't very high, you can hike down and get up behind the falls, on the falls, under the falls, around the falls..

It's funny. There's no 'parking areas' or anything. You'll just drive till you hit the river, then down to the left there's a giant hole in the ground with a massive double step waterfall.

Pics don't do the size justice. It's massive. (http://www.flagstaffcentral.com/Subjects/Nature/Pictures/grandfalls.html)

[since76]

HOLY SMOKES! I just missed 2 weeks of updates on this thread thinking that I was setup to receive an email every time a new message was posted, but I guess not! Here I was telling Tammieo that there was such little activity on the Az POTN forum, but looks like everyone was chatting up a storm! So, what did I miss? :)

Just kidding - I quickly skimmed through 36 pages of posts and just wanted to say "Hi" to all the new members (can't remember everyone's name but I think I saw Ryan, Amanda, Blue-J, Tom, maybe another Mike?). Also Kristy, I wanted to say that I'm sorry for your loss - I know how important a pet can become in our lives. Also, I think someone asked about galleries for their photos and I will echo disneydork's advice - get on the Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/) bandwagon! :)

Now for a topic that I'm pretty sure has come up before, and many have probably had mixed feelings about, but what does everyone think of moving this conversation to Google Groups? Let me at least throw some pros and cons out there since it isn't a perfect solution but something we might want to consider because...

PROS:

Anyone with an email address can join, no Gmail account needed.
Options are available for instant email response, daily email updates, or no email updates.
No need to login to a forum, you start conversations and reply to conversations through your own email client by using a somename@googlegroups.com email address (where somename is the name that is picked for the group, in our case it could be AZPOTN).
If you use Outlook, Gmail, or any other email client that allows you to create filters, you can group and archive incoming emails from the group so they don't clutter up your inbox.
New conversations for each topic can be created so that we don't have to sort through one long thread for previous answers/questions/comments et cetera.
Google Groups uses Google's search engine so it's easy to search conversations/posts for information, keywords, and members.
Pages can be created for additional information sharing.
Photos and files can be shared directly (up to 100MB), so no need to link as long as we're not uploading huge files.
Members can opt out/unsubscribe at anytime.
It's basically a simple, lean, personal, and free forum.
CONS:

It's an additional forum to keep track of since most of you also post elsewhere on the Canon Digital Photography Forums.
For those who do not have Gmail, Outlook, or a way to setup inbox filters, you may receive a lot of emails in your inbox (that is if you choose to receive an email for every new response - see note about Google Group options in PROS if you missed this).
We're allocated 100MB of total file uploads (although you can't upload files to the Canon Digital Photo forums anyway).
So, what do you all think? Open and honest discussion is key, but please limit your expletives to 1 per sentence. :D All kidding aside though, I really think that creating an AZPOTN Google Group could actually enhance the conversation and info/idea sharing experience as using this single thread for all things photography can become quite laborious even when trying to keep up with a few days of missed conversation.

Anyone care to share their thoughts, ideas, comments, rebuttals, concerns, questions, pet peeves?

~Tomas (a.k.a. since76) ;)

Post Scriptum: If you want to see an example of what a Google Group looks like and how it works, visit the "My Other AZ Photo Group" link in my signature and go to the 'Discussions' tab located on the right sidebar.

[FlyingPhotog]

Listservers are a good idea BUT, they are not immune from the same issues you find here or on usenet. Most notably: OT Posts and thread creep.

Personally, I kinda like how this works here at POTN. I don't think we've ever been "modded" on this thread but I admit I like the fact that there is a "higher power" keeping an eye on things.

I've tried usenet and I've subscribed to a few groups via Google and both eventually decline into way too much babble. Not saying we would, but if we don't, we'd be the exception to the rule.

YMMV...

PS...Greetings from Daytona! We've been busting our humps getting ready to go on the air tomorrow afternoon but I hope to get out for some shooting on Monday and/or Tuesday when we're supposed to have a day off. Hope everyone is well. I already miss the desert.

[since76]

Listservers are a good idea BUT, they are not immune from the same issues you find here or on usenet. Most notably: OT Posts and thread creep.

Personally, I kinda like how this works here at POTN. I don't think we've ever been "modded" on this thread but I admit I like the fact that there is a "higher power" keeping an eye on things.

I've tried usenet and I've subscribed to a few groups via Google and both eventually decline into way too much babble. Not saying we would, but if we don't, we'd be the exception to the rule.

YMMV...

PS...Greetings from Daytona! We've been busting our humps getting ready to go on the air tomorrow afternoon but I hope to get out for some shooting on Monday and/or Tuesday when we're supposed to have a day off. Hope everyone is well. I already miss the desert.

Hey FlyingPhotog thanks for your input, this is the kind of info I was hoping to see since I know that the if something isn't broke, don't break it (yeah, I know I butchered it) philosophy is in effect here for sure!! As for the lurkers causing trouble on usenets, I completely agree that it's a possibility and an issue.

Just to clarify, Google Groups does give the option to assign moderators that can edit and delete conversations as they wish (and remove spammers) which in this case might not be an issue because the Google Group would only consist of AZPOTN members if it's not an issue on this thread, chances are it wouldn't be an issue on a Google Group comprised of members using this thread. Also, Google Groups allows moderation (and removal) of people who join so that would keep out any randoms trying to jump on the group and advertise their latest product for satisfying your lover in bed. :)

Anyway, just my 2 cents - any other feedback or thoughts on the idea?

[Adam B.]

Oh we've been "modded" before and well most likely be "modded" again. Once in a great while we get OT just a little.

Group pages are okay for family and things like that, but this is just a small part of something larger.

[evelasco]

How do you subscribe to this thread?

[Guerry Dalrymple]

[quote=Kristy;4868227]You aren't kidding... all these bugs, and flowers, and landscapes... they're beautiful... but I need to practice on people... :)


Kristy

If you are wanting to photograph people there is a "Fan Fest" down at the ballpak on Saturday the 9th. It goes from 9 to 4. The last couple I've worked had lots of prople, and lots of kids, playing games, getting autographs, eating and just having fun. Its free and they are letting people park in the garage free too. Figure your not a big baseball fan but there will be people there. Just an idea.

Guerry:)

[FlyingPhotog]

How do you subscribe to this thread?

Ya just did! ;)

Welcome!!

[Guerry Dalrymple]

Now for a topic that I'm pretty sure has come up before, and many have probably had mixed feelings about, but what does everyone think of moving this conversation to Google Groups? Let me at least throw some pros and cons out there since it isn't a perfect solution but something we might want to consider because...


So, what do you all think? Open and honest discussion is key, but please limit your expletives to 1 per sentence. :D All kidding aside though, I really think that creating an AZPOTN Google Group could actually enhance the conversation and info/idea sharing experience as using this single thread for all things photography can become quite laborious even when trying to keep up with a few days of missed conversation.

Anyone care to share their thoughts, ideas, comments, rebuttals, concerns, questions, pet peeves?

~Tomas (a.k.a. since76) ;)



Tomas

I'm kinda new on here but the one thing I like is the ability to share and CC photos as part of the forum. I looked at the Google thing at it just seemed less geard toward putting out a picture or two and talking about it if you want. I also like the fact that there is a bigbrother watching so to speak here that keeps in pretty clear of junk. Just my 2c

By the way Hi:D

[disneydork06]

How do you subscribe to this thread?

Ya just did! ;)

Welcome!!
I was gonna do a similar thing :-P

[Hatch1921]

Canon Sigma 105mm F2.8 DG Macro EX Lens - $275
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/pho/566462124.html

Not a bad price... if anyone is in need of a macro lens...

Hatch

[FlyingPhotog]

For those of you who like to shoot people, go check out this gallery on PBase:
http://www.pbase.com/silvano/venice_carnival_2008

One word: WOW!!!