Arizona POTN get together?

[Hatch1921]

Kristy,

I know it may not be any comfort, but what you are seeing, is exactly what my 6 month old 5D does. It does it with every lens I own. When I open the original image, I can definately tell that my focus point is at the very end of the DOF, or even beyond it. I really don't think it's my lenses, because they don't show this issue on my 20D.

I've come to the conclusion that I'm just going to live with it. I've gone round and round with Canon service, and just watched you go through it. In my mind, I've determined it's a feature for studio work. :) It helps me get that "out of focused background" look so much more easily.


Brian,

This (IMO) shouldn't be the case... the issue has me thinking... and of course this is just a WAG... that shooting distance is playing an issue with how you both are shooting. I shot with the 20D and loved it... making the move to the 5D I had read the DOF is shallow compared to the 20D. I had to move back some to nail more shots. So... as I just mentioned in an email to Kristy... my keeper rate is low when shooting F/4.0 and below... but... I'm not getting the results you both are producing.

Is it the cameras? The distance to subject?

We recently photographed a model and one of the mistakes I made while shooting wide open on the 70-200 is I didn't adjust my f/stop while moving in closer and closer to her... so... I ended up with just slivers of her face in the focal plane. Another lesson leared the hard way :) But... again... where I placed the focal point is where the camera focused and from that area moving outwards the image was in focus....fading off out of the focal plane. If all that jumbo makes any sense.

So... is it the camera? Defective 5d's ? Or shooting styles? Just some my .02 and curiosity...

Hatch


Terry mentions AI Servo... good call :) I use it 95% of the time...

Another helpful item... a focusing screen for lens f/2.8 and faster.... my keepr rate when up... best $35 I spent IMO.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/402221-REG/Canon_0830B001_Ee_S_Super_Precision_Focusing.html

[Guerry Dalrymple]

Brian,

Terry mentions AI Servo... good call :) I use it 95% of the time...

Another helpful item... a focusing screen for lens f/2.8 and faster.... my keepr rate when up... best $35 I spent IMO.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/402221-REG/Canon_0830B001_Ee_S_Super_Precision_Focusing.html

Hatch

You mean 95% of the time or 95% of the time shooting people?

Guerry

[Hatch1921]

The camera is set to AI Servo all the time.. I hardly ever change it off the mode. Even when shooting people... I switched to one shot mode in the studio. I never use AI focus... just me but I didn't find it useful.

Hatch

[Kristy]

Okay guys... I'm just sitting here reading this all again... and it hit me..... DUH!! I used to always shoot around f/3.5 to f/4.5 with the 20D. The sweet spot really is around f/4.5.

So somewhere along the line, I decided i need to learn to shoot wide open... and started practicing at it.... Then I bought the 5D (which really was defective... ask Hatch and Steve... the tested it with me...). And as you test a lens/camera combo. The focusing problems are most notable wide open.... so then I got in the habit of shooting wide open because I was constantly testing the freaking thing. LOL...

So now.... I realize I need my shutter at 1/160th or higher to get the sharpness I need from the shot (as I am not steady Eddie by any stretch)..... Which puts me at a wider aperature to increase shutter speed. I'd like to keep ISO under 640 in a perfect world, because I am not a fan of too much grain. I don't want grain unless I'm going B&W.....

Pixel peeping is a problem... I admit it.... but it's important because if I need to print something at 20x30... It has to be a darn perfect shot to look good enough to make the grade. So my goal is to have every shot that I produce be the quality of 20x30 print....

Are my expectations too high? Do I need to stop down my aperature? Should I step back and not shoot so close to my subject? Yes, Yes, and Yes.

Will someome please grab me by the shoulders and shake very well until this all sinks into my thick head... Or else soon I will throw away my camera to the first $20 bid on Ebay and run as fast as I can to Fry's Electronics and get me a really cool P&S camera.. got any recommendations.....?

[Kristy]

And Brian.... I hope you aren't getting those results consistently.. I just could absolutely not live with it that way.. I refuse. And the funny thing is that I never had problems with my 20D until after Canon messed with it.....

Did I say more testing to follow? Tomorrow is a new day with a new aperature setting. :)

[BrianAZ]

Kristy,

Good luck with your testing. I found that it didn't matter what f/ stop I used, it still happened. If I did stay with an aperature around f/8 to f/11 I could usually salvalge the photos. I really think it is an issue with the 5D. I initially tried one in mid 2007, but I returned it because of this issue. It was even worse than the one I have now. Let me go through some of my RAW files and see if I have some good examples. These are in the home studio with 2 300 watt modeling lights on full, and enought light so that focus isn't an issue.

[BrianAZ]

Hatch,

AI Servo doesn't help. You have to be able to actually get a focus lock initially. Those focus points are really small, and trying to line them up with a small target, like an eye, which is usually moving is a royal pain. Besides if you are shooting AI server, would you really want to use a tripod?

[FlyingPhotog]

Okay guys... I'm just sitting here reading this all again... and it hit me..... DUH!! I used to always shoot around f/3.5 to f/4.5 with the 20D. The sweet spot really is around f/4.5.

Actually, the sweet spot is going to be more between f/5.6 and f/11 but let's take baby steps here... :lol:

So somewhere along the line, I decided i need to learn to shoot wide open... and started practicing at it.... Then I bought the 5D (which really was defective... ask Hatch and Steve... the tested it with me...). And as you test a lens/camera combo. The focusing problems are most notable wide open.... so then I got in the habit of shooting wide open because I was constantly testing the freaking thing. LOL...

Nothing wrong with shooting wide open... Since everything in photography is more or less a compromise, in order to dwell in the land of "Wide Open" you must sacrifice something to the Gods of Light. In this case, it's your DOF. (Is that Zen enough for everyone?) ;)

So now.... I realize I need my shutter at 1/160th or higher to get the sharpness I need from the shot (as I am not steady Eddie by any stretch)..... Which puts me at a wider aperature to increase shutter speed. I'd like to keep ISO under 640 in a perfect world, because I am not a fan of too much grain. I don't want grain unless I'm going B&W.....

Your logic works in theory. However, it reads lilke you're painting yourself into a corner before you even pick up the camera. Too many constraints lead to too much frustration. You have lights, right? Throw enough light at ISO 800 and up (especially with a 5D) and I think you'll be suprised at how clean the images can be. The real bugaboo is noise in the shadows. If you aren't doing heavy "Low Key" stuff, it's not as bad as you might think.

Pixel peeping is a problem... I admit it.... but it's important because if I need to print something at 20x30... It has to be a darn perfect shot to look good enough to make the grade. So my goal is to have every shot that I produce be the quality of 20x30 print....

So drop your DPI down... Not every print has to be tack sharp and be printed at 300dpi. Lots of stuff gets printed big as low as 180dpi and as long as it's not being inspected at a distance of 2 inches, it's fine. Heck my default with the Canon 9000 is 240dpi.

Are my expectations too high? Do I need to stop down my aperature? Should I step back and not shoot so close to my subject? Yes, Yes, and Yes.

God, I feel like I'm on that A&E show "Intervention..." :lol:

Will someome please grab me by the shoulders and shake very well until this all sinks into my thick head...

I think that's what we're (electronically) doing...!

Or else soon I will throw away my camera to the first $20 bid on Ebay and run as fast as I can to Fry's Electronics and get me a really cool P&S camera.. got any recommendations.....?

I'll give you $25 for it hear and now. Toss in the 24-70 f/2.8 and I'll raise my offer to $35. I hear the G9 makes nice pictures... <G, D, R>

[BrianAZ]

Kristy,

I hope this makes you feel better.

Here is one of the shots I posted last (yes I know is the same tire old outfit) . ;)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b384/joeblacke/zoo/IMG_0655web.jpg

Here is a closeup of his eyes. You can see the dof is gone by the time it hits his ears.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b384/joeblacke/zoo/6222jpg.jpg

Here is a closeup of his hand/pants which are closer to the lens. You will see his hands are more in focus than his eyes, and you can even see the texture of his pants.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b384/joeblacke/zoo/6223jpg.jpg

f/ 5.6
1/200
at 70mm

I was about 10 feet or so from him, so DOF shouldn't have been a problem. I was holding the camera in the portrait position, using the focus point at upper left (10 'oclock position when in portrail orientation).

[Kristy]

Actually, the sweet spot is going to be more between f/5.6 and f/11 but let's take baby steps here... :lol:



Nothing wrong with shooting wide open... Since everything in photography is more or less a compromise, in order to dwell in the land of "Wide Open" you must sacrifice something to the Gods of Light. In this case, it's your DOF. (Is that Zen enough for everyone?) ;)



Your logic works in theory. However, it reads lilke you're painting yourself into a corner before you even pick up the camera. Too many constraints lead to too much frustration. You have lights, right? Throw enough light at ISO 800 and up (especially with a 5D) and I think you'll be suprised at how clean the images can be. The real bugaboo is noise in the shadows. If you aren't doing heavy "Low Key" stuff, it's not as bad as you might think.



So drop your DPI down... Not every print has to be tack sharp and be printed at 300dpi. Lots of stuff gets printed big as low as 180dpi and as long as it's not being inspected at a distance of 2 inches, it's fine. Heck my default with the Canon 9000 is 240dpi.



God, I feel like I'm on that A&E show "Intervention..." :lol:



I think that's what we're (electronically) doing...!



I'll give you $25 for it hear and now. Toss in the 24-70 f/2.8 and I'll raise my offer to $35. I hear the G9 makes nice pictures... <G, D, R>

Okay, so I don't know how to multi-quote the same message like you did.... see I'm just whack all around...

Anyway, yes I have lights... HOWEVER.... I am a natural light junkie! I don't want to be confined to setting up lights everytime I shoot. The whole reason I bought the 5D is to shoot natural light more effectively with the beautiful ISO handling of the thing....

Thanks for the intervention... We'll see what tomorrow produces..... and if anyone wants to "teach" me a lesson or 50... I'm all ears! :)

Kristy,

I hope this makes you feel better.

Here is one of the shots I posted last (yes I know is the same tire old outfit) . ;)



Here is a closeup of his eyes. You can see the dof is gone by the time it hits his ears.



Here is a closeup of his hand/pants which are closer to the lens. You will see his hands are more in focus than his eyes, and you can even see the texture of his pants.



f/ 5.6
1/200
at 70mm

I was about 10 feet or so from him, so DOF shouldn't have been a problem. I was holding the camera in the portrait position, using the focus point at upper left (10 'oclock position when in portrail orientation).

Oh geez Brian! This is UNBELIEVABLE! It is EXACTLY the same thing I have been dealing with... I mean EXACTLY! and you know what... It sucks!! And it is ABSOULTELY UNACCEPTABLE.... there is no way I will settle at that level... so hopefully my testing will prove otherwise, or else... it goes again.

I can be an anal perfectionist at times... (okay, I am woman, so give me that..) and I can't live with those results.... If I were you I'd be so not happy and Canon would be tired of me.... Let's just keep our fingers crossed... Hatch has the 5d and 24-70 Combo and it is NOT performing that way... so I know that the equipment can function properly.. and we both should not settle for less.

Send those pics to Canon and raise a little hell.... LOL.. maybe they will ban all people from the Phoenix area... They will buy us Nikon gear to just get us out of their system... Ha!

[BrianAZ]

Kristy,

One thing I forgot to mention is that it is less severe when using the center focus point without recomposing (the old bulls-eye shot). However, like you, I can't use the center focus point for portraits. The recompose is usually worse than the front focus from using an alternate focus point.

Oh, and as an FYI, I did follow Hatch's advice and get the matte focus screen. It helped a bit, but not a whole lot. It did make the viewfinder considerably darker, though.

[Kristy]

Kristy,

One thing I forgot to mention is that it is less severe when using the center focus point without recomposing (the old bulls-eye shot). However, like you, I can't use the center focus point for portraits. The recompose is usually worse than the front focus from using an alternate focus point.

Oh, and as an FYI, I did follow Hatch's advice and get the matte focus screen. It helped a bit, but not a whole lot. It did make the viewfinder considerably darker, though.

Yeah.... I've read that the center focus point is the strongest point... and MANY people us the back button focus method... and SWEAR that it improves their images dramatically... once they master it... BUT... I'm impatient... and a huge creature of habit.. I tried it a couple of times and just didn't feel good with it... maybe that's the answer for us.

On the focusing screen... I don't understand how it changes the look of the viewfinder.. it is what it is... right? I don't get how it works... so? DUH...

I'd rather have a rule of thirds screen... now that would be cool for me! LOL...

Freaking cameras... we should burn them all and take up painting or drawing. Let's all run off to a strange commune (spelling) and force ourselves to become sketch artists... If you're nice you can use pastels...

[Hatch1921]

Hatch,

AI Servo doesn't help. You have to be able to actually get a focus lock initially. Those focus points are really small, and trying to line them up with a small target, like an eye, which is usually moving is a royal pain. Besides if you are shooting AI server, would you really want to use a tripod?


AI Servo does help if you are chasing around a subject. If you are in a studio setting... on a tripod...no need to use the function.

Looking at your shots... you need a new 5D. They look just like Kristy's photos and for the money we pay for the cameras... this shouldn't be happening. We used my 5d+24-70 combo at the last show in the studio... one shot setting... and I can tell you the images are stupid sharp even shot in raw...straight out of the camera. I didn't have to shapen the majority of photos...no kidding. Again... from the shots you posted... your camera is defective. I can shoot at any f/stop...keeping in mind the distance to the subject without issue. This is the beauty of natural light and/or fast glass. I wouldn't settle for a camera that is limiting. For the $ you have invested... I would send it back.

I'm hoping when Kristy shots tomorrow at a little further distance from he subject...she will have better results...

You can use my combo anytime to see the difference... just let me know. Maybe I got lucky... but... I think they should all perform like mine to a degree...

Just some thoughts... let me know if you want some sample shots from the studio... I would be happy to send them over.

Hatch

[Hatch1921]

Actually, the sweet spot is going to be more between f/5.6 and f/11 but let's take baby steps here... :lol:



Nothing wrong with shooting wide open... Since everything in photography is more or less a compromise, in order to dwell in the land of "Wide Open" you must sacrifice something to the Gods of Light. In this case, it's your DOF. (Is that Zen enough for everyone?) ;)



Your logic works in theory. However, it reads lilke you're painting yourself into a corner before you even pick up the camera. Too many constraints lead to too much frustration. You have lights, right? Throw enough light at ISO 800 and up (especially with a 5D) and I think you'll be suprised at how clean the images can be. The real bugaboo is noise in the shadows. If you aren't doing heavy "Low Key" stuff, it's not as bad as you might think.



So drop your DPI down... Not every print has to be tack sharp and be printed at 300dpi. Lots of stuff gets printed big as low as 180dpi and as long as it's not being inspected at a distance of 2 inches, it's fine. Heck my default with the Canon 9000 is 240dpi.



God, I feel like I'm on that A&E show "Intervention..." :lol:



I think that's what we're (electronically) doing...!



I'll give you $25 for it hear and now. Toss in the 24-70 f/2.8 and I'll raise my offer to $35. I hear the G9 makes nice pictures... <G, D, R>


All great advice Jay... but... I can tell you... Kristy isn't going to shoot beyond ISO 640 ROFL ... we fight about this... even though you can't see the noise in prints... she is a little apprehensive going beyond the 640 range. I've printed shots at ISO 1600 and loved them... but... we all have different standards. Hers are a little higher than mine :)

Good stuff
Hatch

[BrianAZ]

AI Servo does help if you are chasing around a subject. If you are in a studio setting... on a tripod...no need to use the function.

Looking at your shots... you need a new 5D. They look just like Kristy's photos and for the money we pay for the cameras... this shouldn't be happening. We used my 5d+24-70 combo at the last show in the studio... one shot setting... and I can tell you the images are stupid sharp even shot in raw...straight out of the camera. I didn't have to shapen the majority of photos...no kidding. Again... from the shots you posted... your camera is defective. I can shoot at any f/stop...keeping in mind the distance to the subject without issue. This is the beauty of natural light and/or fast glass. I wouldn't settle for a camera that is limiting. For the $ you have invested... I would send it back.

I'm hoping when Kristy shots tomorrow at a little further distance from he subject...she will have better results...

You can use my combo anytime to see the difference... just let me know. Maybe I got lucky... but... I think they should all perform like mine to a degree...

Just some thoughts... let me know if you want some sample shots from the studio... I would be happy to send them over.

Hatch

Hatch,

I'd love to see some sample studio work. Hopefully you shoot raw too, so we can directly compare your raw files with mine, as the coversion to .jpg normally has some sharpening involved.

You know, now that I think about it, it might be good for you, I and maybe Kristy to get together and test some equipment. If you have a known good body and lense(s), then that can be our control. I can try your body and lens, and vice versa. We can then also swap your lens onto my body, and my lenses onto your body. That should let us nail down, without any uncertainty, whether it is a problem with the body, or the lenses.

[BrianAZ]

....and to get off topic, I'm happy to report that my next sample posting won't be of any backdrops you have seen. I won this one last week by attending a website building demo:

http://www.silverlakephoto.com/images/pdf/kotton_kandy.jpg


My little girl is going to get some cute pastel pics tomorrow!

[Hatch1921]

Hatch,

I'd love to see some sample studio work. Hopefully you shoot raw too, so we can directly compare your raw files with mine, as the coversion to .jpg normally has some sharpening involved.

You know, now that I think about it, it might be good for you, I and maybe Kristy to get together and test some equipment. If you have a known good body and lense(s), then that can be our control. I can try your body and lens, and vice versa. We can then also swap your lens onto my body, and my lenses onto your body. That should let us nail down, without any uncertainty, whether it is a problem with the body, or the lenses.


I'm up for it. We (Steve and I) did this with Kristy's camera. Steve has a good body/lens combo as well. Send me a PM with an email address you would like the raw files sent to... not a problem at all. :) I was a little surprised you were/are having the same issues as Kristy. I think her camera was a little more severe. If you wanted a nice sharp picture of your hand on your lap... that was the camera body to have. LOL everything else was way out of focus.

Congrats on the BG...very cool!
Hatch

[FlyingPhotog]

Oh geez Brian! This is UNBELIEVABLE! It is EXACTLY the same thing I have been dealing with... I mean EXACTLY! and you know what... It sucks!! And it is ABSOULTELY UNACCEPTABLE.... there is no way I will settle at that level... so hopefully my testing will prove otherwise, or else... it goes again.

Ok, now we're getting rediculous (sort of...) :)

I see no need to "Settle" in any way here...

Again, just my opinion but given the lighting, the mood, the subject, the setting... Brian's photo is perfect. I'll say it again: P - E - R - F - E - C - T...

People pay very big bucks to get photographic portraiture that approaches the quality of a fine oil painting which (IMNSHO) his photo accomplishes...!!! A photo like this, when sharpened to the extreme may as well be fingernails on a chalk board.

A photo has to have some bite, some intangible that makes you want to study it and then study it some more. Without some sense of having been made by the hand of man, a photo looses any sense of soul or feeling. Photography is about the manipulation and capture of light. NOT wrangling 1s and 0s...

I can be an anal perfectionist at times... (okay, I am woman, so give me that..)

I CALL BULLSHIRT ... No fair copping out behind a stereotype...it does a diservice to both yourself and to us, your adoring fans... <Grin>

...and I can't live with those results.... If I were you I'd be so not happy and Canon would be tired of me.... Let's just keep our fingers crossed... Hatch has the 5d and 24-70 Combo and it is NOT performing that way... so I know that the equipment can function properly.. and we both should not settle for less.

At the risk of blashpheming, have you considered renting a D300 or D3 and Nikon's equivalent lens? If I were you, I'd be running to the nearest place to get one just to prove that it IS in fact my Canon gear and not me.

Send those pics to Canon and raise a little hell.... LOL.. maybe they will ban all people from the Phoenix area... They will buy us Nikon gear to just get us out of their system... Ha!

I hope you're using the "Royal We" as I don't intend to go down with this ship thankyouverymuch... ;)

[FlyingPhotog]

I'm up for it. We (Steve and I) did this with Kristy's camera. Steve has a good body/lens combo as well. Send me a PM with an email address you would like the raw files sent to... not a problem at all. :) I was a little surprised you were/are having the same issues as Kristy. I think her camera was a little more severe. If you wanted a nice sharp picture of your hand on your lap... that was the camera body to have. LOL everything else was way out of focus.

Congrats on the BG...very cool!
Hatch

I'd be happy to loan my 5D for your experiment as well...

[FlyingPhotog]

....and to get off topic, I'm happy to report that my next sample posting won't be of any backdrops you have seen. I won this one last week by attending a website building demo:

My little girl is going to get some cute pastel pics tomorrow!

Sweeeeet...

Looking forward to your first batch with the new BG...

[Hatch1921]

Jay...

I think the shots Brian has produced are wonderful! I wish I could produce shots half as nice. Howerver, if he is limited to using only f/8-f-11 (which is great for studio ) but...if his camera is producing the shots like Kristy's camera had produced.... I would be MAD:evil: and I would have to send it back to Canon.

Kristy...if you have a few of those shots.. from the testing session.. you should post them... horrible!!!

I smell a testing session in the works... all 5d owners should meet and test... Adam? Terry? Fogive me if I miss a anyone. I'm free this weekend... name the time and place. :)

[Hatch1921]

Brian.... shoot me an email.... I have a few raw files for your to look at... a mix...

hatch1921@.......... ..............yahoo.com remove the dots :)

Hatch

[Kristy]

Ok, now we're getting rediculous (sort of...) :)

I see no need to "Settle" in any way here...

Again, just my opinion but given the lighting, the mood, the subject, the setting... Brian's photo is perfect. I'll say it again: P - E - R - F - E - C - T...

People pay very big bucks to get photographic portraiture that approaches the quality of a fine oil painting which (IMNSHO) his photo accomplishes...!!! A photo like this, when sharpened to the extreme may as well be fingernails on a chalk board.

A photo has to have some bite, some intangible that makes you want to study it and then study it some more. Without some sense of having been made by the hand of man, a photo looses any sense of soul or feeling. Photography is about the manipulation and capture of light. NOT wrangling 1s and 0s...



I CALL BULLSHIRT ... No fair copping out behind a stereotype...it does a diservice to both yourself and to us, your adoring fans... <Grin>



At the risk of blashpheming, have you considered renting a D300 or D3 and Nikon's equivalent lens? If I were you, I'd be running to the nearest place to get one just to prove that it IS in fact my Canon gear and not me.



I hope you're using the "Royal We" as I don't intend to go down with this ship thankyouverymuch... ;)

Song clip... couldn't resist....

Artist Dido... Song, White Flag...

Well I will go down with this ship
And I won't put my hands up and surrender
There will be no white flag above my door
I'm in love and always will be.... (just not with Canon at the moment)

Okay, so this is great banter, isn't it... I hope you take some comments with a bit of sarcasm.... because that's my specialty. :)

Anyway... Jay.. I agree that Brian's shot is FANTASTIC.... is beautiful.. However, it's not up to par... You can't even see the poor boy's eyelashes, but you can see the threads in his pants... that's just downright irritating....

I feel the pain. Maybe our expectations are too high... All I know for sure is that before I picked up the 5D, and before Canon took my gear and messed around with it.. I could bank on freaking eyelashes in my shots... and I could focus spot on every single time without a doubt if I was at f/3.5 or higher....

So yeah... I could run out and rent Nikon... to prove it... but I have files on my system that are enough to satisfy me... and the gear should perform to spec... I expect it. I work too hard for my money to just toss up my hands and deal with it...

I'm sure I'm making errors this time around... wouldn't second guess it until proper testing is done.... Especially since I'm shooting full frame and perhaps that takes some getting used to and some changes need to be made.... But I also know that I shot a newborn with Hatch's gear and some DOF when using natural light was very thin... too thin, to be honest... but the focus still landed on at least one eye in those shots... not on the pillow or the bed, or the blanket.... on one eye.

So... if you focus the eye... and Zoom Browser shows the eye at the point of capture... and your LCD shows pants... a belt buckle or a hand in focus... That's a major problem.

And the copping out on the stereo-type... Naw.... that's just the dry humor that I love... I'll forgive you though.. After all you are a man, and you were just born into it by no choice of your own... ;)

Off my soap box now....

By, the by.... (did I just say that?.....) I'm up for the focusing test... Let's plan it. :)

[FlyingPhotog]

Jay...

I think the shots Brian has produced are wonderful! I wish I could produce shots half as nice. Howerver, if he is limited to using only f/8-f-11 (which is great for studio ) but...if his camera is producing the shots like Kristy's camera had produced.... I would be MAD:evil: and I would have to send it back to Canon.

Kristy...if you have a few of those shots.. from the testing session.. you should post them... horrible!!!

I smell a testing session in the works... all 5d owners should meet and test... Adam? Terry? Fogive me if I miss a anyone. I'm free this weekend... name the time and place. :)

Like I said, I have one too and I'd be happy to give it to someone to try this weekend. In fact, I'd like for someone to wring mine out. I'll be out of town from Thursday to Monday but can come get it Monday evening or Tuesday.

Just let me know...

[Hatch1921]

A few shots from this morning...

The originals are have enough motion blur in them I couldn't print the shots... they look bad. But... with the magic of resizing for web and sharpening... they look decent. I need to crank up the shutter speeds.... these little miner bees do not like to sit in one place for long. They will hover for a second or two. Good times!

Hatch

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3128/2435215735_58625e992a_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3081/2436032620_5ee633b82f_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3106/2435216015_b2a1911133_o.jpg

Canon 5D+ Sigma 180mm macro + Canon 580ex hand-held...

[BrianAZ]

So much love in here. (sniff)

Hatch,

Email on it's way.

Also, I can probably make time this weekend, especially on Sunday if we want to get together.

Jay,

If you would like to test your camera, I'm game for that. I'm in Mesa and work in North Chandler, so I'm probably not that far from you.

Kristy,

I'm going to go ahead and reset my custom function for the focus button and see if that changes anything. I'll test tomorrow.

[Hatch1921]

Photos on the way...
Hatch

[JmprSteve]

I use the back focus button/center focus and recompose and am more than satisfied with my 5D. I also use the 24-105 f4L IS.

Here is an image from lightroom with no sharpening then save for web in photoshop to get it to size to post.

This was iso 100 f4 ss 1/100 88mm, the full image and the crop on the eyes. I've seen the results from Frank's 5D.

If there is a get together to check out equipment, let me know and I'll bring my toys along.

[FlyingPhotog]

Song clip... couldn't resist....

Artist Dido... Song, White Flag...

Well I will go down with this ship
And I won't put my hands up and surrender
There will be no white flag above my door
I'm in love and always will be.... (just not with Canon at the moment)

LOL...Cute...

Okay, so this is great banter, isn't it... I hope you take some comments with a bit of sarcasm.... because that's my specialty. :)

No worries... I smell what you're cooking (speaking of stereotypes...hehehe...)


Anyway... Jay.. I agree that Brian's shot is FANTASTIC.... is beautiful.. However, it's not up to par... You can't even see the poor boy's eyelashes, but you can see the threads in his pants... that's just downright irritating....

Bear in mind, however, we're all looking at a compressed JPG so don't judge a book too much by it's web version... ;) The proof will be in the RAW file...

I feel the pain. Maybe our expectations are too high... All I know for sure is that before I picked up the 5D, and before Canon took my gear and messed around with it.. I could bank on freaking eyelashes in my shots... and I could focus spot on every single time without a doubt if I was at f/3.5 or higher....

Then you have every right to crawl deeply up whatever Canon orifice you choose...no dispute here. But if everything was sweetness and light, why'd it to to Canon in the first place? What suddenly made everything not right? Maybe there is a flaw in the 5D? Why not try renting a 1DMkIII or 1DsMkIII and see what that yields?


So yeah... I could run out and rent Nikon... to prove it...

See above regarding alternate Canon products...

but I have files on my system that are enough to satisfy me... and the gear should perform to spec... I expect it. I work too hard for my money to just toss up my hands and deal with it...

Maybe I'm not digging deeply enough into my own gear but there is something in all of this that really has me scratching my head. How (if a body or lens actually is physically out of kilter) can you get any keepers at all? If you use the same body, same lens and hit the same spot with your focus point, shouldn't all images be off by the same amount and in the same direction? All misfocused slightly deep or slightly shallow depending on whether you're dealing a front focus or back focus issue. How can there be ANY keepers?

I'm sure I'm making errors this time around... wouldn't second guess it until proper testing is done.... Especially since I'm shooting full frame and perhaps that takes some getting used to and some changes need to be made.... But I also know that I shot a newborn with Hatch's gear and some DOF when using natural light was very thin... too thin, to be honest... but the focus still landed on at least one eye in those shots... not on the pillow or the bed, or the blanket.... on one eye.

So... if you focus the eye... and Zoom Browser shows the eye at the point of capture... and your LCD shows pants... a belt buckle or a hand in focus... That's a major problem.

I strongly suggest someone bring a laptop and y'all do some tethered shooting so you can see the test images on something better than the camera's LCD. It would also allow for making slight adjustments on the fly so you don't have to wait until you offload the CF card.


And the copping out on the stereo-type... Naw.... that's just the dry humor that I love... I'll forgive you though.. After all you are a man, and you were just born into it by no choice of your own... ;)

Fortunately, owing to advances in modern medicine, should I ever decide to change, it's an option... However, unlike simply changing camera brands, that kind of hardware change would:

- Be much more expensive..
- Be much more time consuming..
- Mean I'd be unable to keep my hands off myself and never leave the house to go shoot.

So I guess I'll stick with my birth gender and just learn to live with my faults... :lol:

[Kristy]

Allright.... one more peep from the peanut gallery over here...

Mister Jay...

I bought the 5D... Ups Delivered it as I was on my way out the door to shoot a body building competition... Decided to use it, so threw the box in the car and headed to Flagstaff for the weekend. During the show, I chimped... at some point and realized that my focus was off.... at chest and not on the eyes... in studio with strobes at f/8 or f/9... thought it was my lens.. (24-70) so threw on the 85mm and finished shooting... upon downloading... EVERY shot was off... pretty much. So I PS'd the eyes and spent way too much time processing.

Sent it back to Canon... and they requested my lenses.... so they tweaked the lenses to "optimize them" for the 5d... So then the 24-70 no longer focues properly on the 20D, and the 5D was still off... All in all... sent gear back 4 times... Did tripod test chart, studio test with tripod and strobe, Put my lens on other body, other lens on my body, etc it was crazy.... and finally they replaced the 5D considering it defective... and took another 10 days to replace parts on the 24-70 because the chassis was broken (previously reported as loose).... what the heck is a chassis anyway....

So now I have a new 5D and almost new 24-70 back in my posession...
After almost 5 months..... I'm gun shy to say the least.

The LCD I'm speaking of is on my Desk.. not the camera.. I'd never trust the camera LCD... I shoot RAW, I sharpen, I check Zoom Browser for focus point, etc....

I guess you get some keepers due to luck... with focal distance, plane, etc.... larger aperatures.. and a good relationship with Photoshop... LOL.

So that's the history... All I really want to know is that the gear performs to spec and I have a problem.... I'm so willing to admit user error... but if the gear is not performing.. I'd like to get it taken care of sooner rather than later... no surprises.. you know.

As for the gender change... LOL... I'll just keep laughing at your response... :)

[FlyingPhotog]

Allright.... one more peep from the peanut gallery over here...

<Snip sorded tale of woe and misery...>

Ah, thanks for getting me up to speed. I need to remember that I'm still one of the new kids on the block. Just not Joey... :rolleyes:

[FlyingPhotog]

Since were tossing up 5D images, I did a little digging to find one that was shot at f/2.8 (EF 70-200 f/2.8L IS) and that showed some skin detail in the full size crop...

No adjustments at all. Right from the camera, into Lightroom, opened in CS3 and saved as MAX JPGs...

I don't have any of the software loaded that shows exactly where the focus point is but I'm pretty darn sure I was right on his left eye. Maybe even the left corner of his left eye.

Hope these fit the criteria:

Full Frame Shot of one of my buddies taken at Super Bowl XVII:
http://www.pbase.com/flyingphotog/image/96024255/original.jpg

100% Crop
http://www.pbase.com/flyingphotog/image/96024256/original.jpg

Now I ask this seriously as Kristy's issues are beginning to cloud my judgement a bit, but does anyone see anything that doesn't look spot on?

[Kristy]

okay... let's pixel peep! My favorite game.. and then to bed...

So typically, my front focus problem lends to the lower right or left of where I focused... i this case I'd look at his lips or shirt collar. But that's just where my eye has been trained to look... after 5 months oif it... LOL...

I think it looks fine, but I'd be interested to see a bit lower. How about a tight horizontal crop....? Just on eye mid brow and then down.

Don't you have zoom browser...? It came with your camera's software bundle. It shows focus point at time of capture.

[JmprSteve]

Jay,
Nice detail and looks sharp. On a tight headshot (where the face is a majority of the image) I'm very picky about the eye sharpness. But when the eyes are less than 10% of the total image then I have to balance how sharp the eyes are in relation to the rest of the image.
What am I saying?!!? The image is junk... the 5D and 70/200 combo is worthless, but I'll give you $50 and take them off your hands!! :)

[Hatch1921]

Looks great to me... I think while shooting wide open we all have to keep in mind DOF and distance to subject. For a f/2.8 shot .... this looks great to me.

One of the bodybuilding shows we shot.. .I had to shoot ISO 1600 @ f/2.8 with the 70-200L IS... at 30 ft the subject was sharp and in the focal plane from head to toe... move me in to 10 feet away and then the DOF really starts to work against the shot...

As I mentioned previously... I made the mistake last time out...shooting the model... I had the 70-200 wide open and I moved in...up to just a few feet away from the subject and her right eye looks great... the rest of the image is OOF thanks to the wonderful bokeh the lens produces. LOL

The issue Kristy had on the last camera body was unreal. We shot Steve and with the focal point on his eye/s his lower right hand would be in focus and the rest of the shot would be oof. It was insane!!

[Kristy]

Jay,
Nice detail and looks sharp. On a tight headshot (where the face is a majority of the image) I'm very picky about the eye sharpness. But when the eyes are less than 10% of the total image then I have to balance how sharp the eyes are in relation to the rest of the image.
What am I saying?!!? The image is junk... the 5D and 70/200 combo is worthless, but I'll give you $50 and take them off your hands!! :)

LOL...

Wanna pixel peep.... see here... straight from camera converted from RAW...
but you gotta view at XL or original to see detail.. and Smuggy is SLOW.... http://ksnyderphoto.smugmug.com/gallery/4369697_vsSfo#258909521_weGYM

[Hatch1921]

Were these taken with the new camera/lens combo?

[Kristy]

Were these taken with the new camera/lens combo?

No these are the old ones... just showing the point.... of when focus is off vs. when DOF is off... These are definitely a focus point issue, not shallow DOF problem.

[Hatch1921]

I about fell out of my chair thinking these were from the new camera :)

Off to bed... g'nite all.
Hatch

[Kristy]

I about fell out of my chair thinking these were from the new camera :)

Off to bed... g'nite all.
Hatch

Me too....(zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz) thanks for the commentary today everyone... :)

[FlyingPhotog]

LOL...

Wanna pixel peep.... see here... straight from camera converted from RAW...
but you gotta view at XL or original to see detail.. and Smuggy is SLOW.... http://ksnyderphoto.smugmug.com/gallery/4369697_vsSfo#258909521_weGYM

Just to keep the conversation lively...

Here's what I see when I look at each in original size, starting in the upper left and going L to R, Top to Bottom:

1) Relative to FP (Focus Point) the sharpest thing in the frame is the "R" in Princess and the sweatshirt texture near her right armpit. AF (Actual Focus) appears to be shallow but similar across the image.

2) Relative to FP, the sharpest thing in the frame are his ears and the seam of his sweatshirt which appears to be in the same plane as his ears. This time AF is deeper than FP but not by much if you consider the depth at which his face meets her hair isn't that much in front of his ears.

3) Relative to FP, the sharpest thing(s) in the frame are the Oreo Icing and the third knuckle of her left hand. AF seems to be shallower than FP but across the entire image.

4) Relative to FP, agree that the chip is sharper than his eyes, however there is hair on his head equally sharp. AF seems to be shallower than FP but the same across the image vertically.

5) Relative to FP, agree that the zipper pull is sharper than where the FP falls. Again, AF is deeper than FP. It makes sense that her foot would be sharper since you have more DOF behind your subject than in front. If the AF is deeper than FP, then more behind would be in focus.

6) Relative to FP, agree that her sweatshirt textue is sharper than the eye. However, this one doesn't miss by nearly as much as the others because (to me) the butterfly tattoo looks in focus. AF is maybe 2mm shallower than FP on this one.

7) Relative to FP, agree that the cup is sharper than the AF on the eye. IMO, this one misses the most of all examples you've posted.

So what have we learned here? Frankly, I haven't a damn clue. :confused:

Hey, I had some extra time so I thought I'd disect the evidence.

I'd be curious to hear what others see in these images. Like I said above, most do appear to miss shallow but a couple missed deep. It would make more sense to me that if a body or lens has a flaw, that flaw would manifest itself in a predictable way and not miss shallow on one shot then miss deep on the next. Or more importantly, miss shallow left, shallow right, then deep, then deep right and so on...

Sometimes I wonder if the electronic goodies we have in modern digital cameras are more of a hinderance than a help. At least with my AE-1 and FD 50mm f/1.4 (the original Nifty Fifty) I could rest assured that if it wasn't in focus, I had no one to blame but myself (or a warped film gate, bad batch of film, Sun Spots, Aliens, The Dog ate my focus scale...) :lol:

Looking forward to the results of Operation 5D Showdown...

[FlyingPhotog]

Jay,
Nice detail and looks sharp. On a tight headshot (where the face is a majority of the image) I'm very picky about the eye sharpness. But when the eyes are less than 10% of the total image then I have to balance how sharp the eyes are in relation to the rest of the image.
What am I saying?!!? The image is junk... the 5D and 70/200 combo is worthless, but I'll give you $50 and take them off your hands!! :)

From my cold dead hands.... :-P :lol:

[FlyingPhotog]

So much love in here. (sniff)

Hatch,

Email on it's way.

Also, I can probably make time this weekend, especially on Sunday if we want to get together.

Jay,

If you would like to test your camera, I'm game for that. I'm in Mesa and work in North Chandler, so I'm probably not that far from you.

Kristy,

I'm going to go ahead and reset my custom function for the focus button and see if that changes anything. I'll test tomorrow.

PM me and we'll try to hook up. Hopefully, I won't forget the damn camera...

:)

I have to deliver a print to the office over at the Chandler Airport so maybe I can kill two birds with one trip.

Lemme Know...

[disneydork06]

Anyway, yes I have lights... HOWEVER.... I am a natural light junkie! I don't want to be confined to setting up lights everytime I shoot. The whole reason I bought the 5D is to shoot natural light more effectively with the beautiful ISO handling of the thing....
All great advice Jay... but... I can tell you... Kristy isn't going to shoot beyond ISO 640 ROFL ... we fight about this... even though you can't see the noise in prints... she is a little apprehensive going beyond the 640 range. I've printed shots at ISO 1600 and loved them... but... we all have different standards. Hers are a little higher than mine :)

Good stuff
Hatch
anyone else find this funny of Kristy? you got the camera for great natural light and iso handling yet you won't go anywhere beyond 640? :-P sorry, just had to mess with you.

[FlyingPhotog]

anyone else find this funny of Kristy? you got the camera for great natural light and iso handling yet you won't go anywhere beyond 640? :-P sorry, just had to mess with you.

'Bout time you showed up...

Wimp! :p:lol:

(Stones busted while you wait... Just one of many services available.)

Did a hit and run through Flag the other day. Pictured you furiously arranging photos into a portfolio... :D

Did you make your presentation yet?

[disneydork06]

'Bout time you showed up...

Wimp! :p:lol:

(Stones busted while you wait... Just one of many services available.)

Did a hit and run through Flag the other day. Pictured you furiously arranging photos into a portfolio... :D

Did you make your presentation yet?
LOL, I was partially furiously arranging my photos into the port. It was getting a little hectic getting all my pics ready for being printed then making sure they were all cropped to the right size (I actually forgot to do several of them :-/) and then also finding out that I forgot to clean off the dirty dirty bg. oh, and I made the decision just a day before to add some space to my photos so you can actually see the model in the photos and not crop off heads and feet. AHHHH...But, i did get it done in time and turned it in this past monday. I'm gonna post up my updated photos onto flickr here tomorrow after my presentation. I have a teacher that is a friend on my flickr so I'm gonna keep it a bit of a surprise of which photos I chose for my port.
I just hope I wake up in time tomorrow for me to shave and get all my clothes ready. we have to dress up like it's for an interview. I think I will try my slightly larger jacket. hope it works out okay for tomorrow :-P

Oh, and thank you all for filling up this thread. it has been empty for awhile but now I have to take a break before I had read the rest of the new posts that i've missed. thanks to this portfolio being due I've been a little absent here on potn :-) hope everyone is doing well.

[FlyingPhotog]

Knock 'em dead man!! We're all pullin' for ya!!!

[Az2Africa]

We're cheering for you Ryan!!! Hope it goes great.:D

[macroshooter1970]

break a leg DD

[disneydork06]

haha, thanks guys. It shouldn't be too bad. I get to show off all the photos that I've worked my butt off. they should look good :-P I talked to one teacher and he said he gave a lot of high marks the other day. hope he does the same with todays group.
Oh, just to show the what some of us are coming up with for projects, check out my roommates work at his website jtdphoto.com
the thing he worked on is called nike spectrum on his portfolio drop down. or here's the link :-P
http://jtdphoto.com/#a=0&at=0&mi=2&pt=1&pi=10000&s=0&p=0
hope it works. anyways, this guy won a scholarship just recently. so lucky, he got all this stuff from elinchrom. I'm jealous. anyways, gotta do some other work before I leave for my classes for the day.

[Hatch1921]

Messing around this morning in the garage...


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2141/2437306462_40898ed674_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2028/2436487461_9f06e64db8_o.jpg

580ex camera right fired with a pocket wizard... 5d+Sigma 180mm macro... tone/tint in raw...

Good times... now I need a shower... funky smelling from all the fruity smoke. LOL

Hatch

[FlyingPhotog]

Messing around this morning in the garage...
580ex camera right fired with a pocket wizard... 5d+Sigma 180mm macro... tone/tint in raw...

Good times... now I need a shower... funky smelling from all the fruity smoke. LOL

Hatch

Did you put a wet towel under the door jam? ;):-o

Case of Twinkees for Hatch, please!!

Very nice work, of course. So you didn't gel the flash at all? Just twisted the digits in post? Gonna have to mess with this myself some day. What'd you use for a smoke source?

[Hatch1921]

Did you put a wet towel under the door jam? ;):-o

Case of Twinkees for Hatch, please!!

Very nice work, of course. So you didn't gel the flash at all? Just twisted the digits in post? Gonna have to mess with this myself some day. What'd you use for a smoke source?


ROFL!!! I smell like I just left a head shop... nothing wrong with that of course... but... I got all the smoke and no munchies. LOL

No gels... just tweaked in raw... temp/tint changes.

Here is one with a little more Photshop work applied...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2304/2437556866_1f9493d108_o.jpg

I used a elaborate setup... garbage can to brace the garage broom against... tape for the incense... gallon paint can holding a broom handle...which held my black jack I had in a stoarge box... and I fired away. LOL

157 shots... 5 worth keeping... I think for round two I will try reflecting more light back at the smoke... All in all... good times when you are bored stiff.
Hatch

[FlyingPhotog]

^^^ Very Cool...

Now, did you mirror any part of this in post or was it naturally this symetrical?

[Hatch1921]

No... mirrored image... then I masked the top half to blend it for a single focal point... I think that is what I was shooting for LOL ... then I toned it and that was about it...

Looks like... a pair of bunny heads on the lower half.... an alien head on top... top left/right... monkey heads... ? ROFL ... can be anything you want it to be I suppose. LOL I should have put a warning... anyone on mind altering drugs... do not view. LOL

Hatch

[FlyingPhotog]

Might wanna alter that disclaimer to include shooting while on mind altering drugs as well... ;)

[Hatch1921]

HA HA HA HA!! Very true :) It was hard to shoot these than I thought it would be... trying to focus on moving smoke in low light... not much fun. I'm going to try a couple of sets of incense buring next time... more smoke... it might have an interesting effect... no telling. :)

[Hatch1921]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2045/2436837433_c8538354cc_o.jpg

Last one of the day... again... just messing around in Photoshop.

Hatch

[BrianAZ]

Love the smoke pics!

[BrianAZ]

Kristy.........

New background, new clothes, and a new model (sorta).

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=5390479#post5390479

[disneydork06]

sweet smoke shots! love the reflected on you made. looks like some person lower torso, with ovaries or whatever it is...

[Kristy]

Cool smoke shot Hatch.... I've been wanting to try that for a long time.. I bought this triange shaped insence almost a year ago now and it continues to sit in my house... Wonder where I put it...

Anyway, AWESOME work as usual! So that's what people with no kids do when they have a day off work, huh? Nice.... :)

Okay, so if anyone has 8 minutes to spare.. have a peek here and feel free to tear it apart.... It's a slideshow, takes a few minutes to load, so be patient if you want to check it out. This is pretty much my "place" and the thing I love about doing what I do. Not the best pics I've ever taken, but I hope to have captured a mood just the same.. a memory, a moment in the life.... preserved. Know what I mean...

Here's the spot... hope it works... http://ksnyderphoto.smugmug.com/gallery/4786707_JFwN4#284133590_LpLyF

[Kristy]

Hey Ryan... how'd the presentation go today?

[FlyingPhotog]

While Hatch was going "Up In Smoke" .. I was chasing Birds, Bees and also getting way carried away in CS3...

Green Heron fishing near Gila Springs fountain (40D + 100-400L IS)
http://www.pbase.com/image/96063035/original.jpg

Busy Bee in my front yard (5D + 100 f/2.8 Macro)
http://www.pbase.com/flyingphotog/image/96063764/original.jpg

An image from Ryan's neck of the woods (40D + 17-40 f/4L)
http://www.pbase.com/flyingphotog/image/96065334/original.jpg

[BrianAZ]

Great photography Kristy. I just choked up when I saw the pictures of the baby and his dad in B/W. The music was just perfect.

[Hatch1921]

sweet smoke shots! love the reflected on you made. looks like some person lower torso, with ovaries or whatever it is...

Many thanks Ryan :)

Hatch

[Hatch1921]

Cool smoke shot Hatch.... I've been wanting to try that for a long time.. I bought this triange shaped insence almost a year ago now and it continues to sit in my house... Wonder where I put it...

Anyway, AWESOME work as usual! So that's what people with no kids do when they have a day off work, huh? Nice.... :)

Okay, so if anyone has 8 minutes to spare.. have a peek here and feel free to tear it apart.... It's a slideshow, takes a few minutes to load, so be patient if you want to check it out. This is pretty much my "place" and the thing I love about doing what I do. Not the best pics I've ever taken, but I hope to have captured a mood just the same.. a memory, a moment in the life.... preserved. Know what I mean...

Here's the spot... hope it works... http://ksnyderphoto.smugmug.com/gallery/4786707_JFwN4#284133590_LpLyF


Thank you kindly :) just trying to fight the boredom :)

Nice work on the baby shoot!!! You almost made me like kids...almost. LOL I liked the last shot of the show... keep up the great work. :D

[disneydork06]

Hey Ryan... how'd the presentation go today?
It went alright. got asked a question I wasn't too prepared for, but I thought I had kind of explained it in the beginning. a teacher didn't like my plastic holders for my pics. he also didn't like that I put, what I thought was my best pic, as the last pic...but I had also put the 2nd best photo first. but it all went alright. a lot of my peers like my photos so that helps me out a lot. Anyways, i will post them up on flickr here soon and post some of the better shots on here soon.

Jay, great photo of Monte V. You should see it at night when it's lit up. some nice night shots there.

[disneydork06]

Kristy, I like what I've seen in the slideshow but, I've already seen like 3-4 today and one of them was like 15 min long. this one seems just as long, sorry :-/ idk, I think if it was shorter in length you would keep more attention. oh and I'm not a big fan of those ken burns effects. kinda takes away from the photo when you zoom a way you don't want it too...but that's just me.

[Cascavel]

Wow some awesome photos here lately. Well actually almost always. Cool shots of the smoke Hatch and Jay that Green Heron turned out great!

A quick question for anyone that's traveled to St Thomas in the Virgin Islands. How safe do you think it would be to bring my camera gear along. I really want to take all my stuff with me but I am scared to death of something happening to it.
Obviously I would keep it with me at all times possible but I would guess that the hotel (blue beards castle) should have a safe to keep it in if I had to go say snorkeling or something right?
Any thoughts?

[FlyingPhotog]

It went alright. got asked a question I wasn't too prepared for, but I thought I had kind of explained it in the beginning. a teacher didn't like my plastic holders for my pics. he also didn't like that I put, what I thought was my best pic, as the last pic...but I had also put the 2nd best photo first. but it all went alright. a lot of my peers like my photos so that helps me out a lot. Anyways, i will post them up on flickr here soon and post some of the better shots on here soon.

Jay, great photo of Monte V. You should see it at night when it's lit up. some nice night shots there.

Atta Boy on your presentation. I have to think it's very difficult to be too critical in a photography curiculum (sp?) since you're dealing in individual interpretations.

Aside from Exposure*, WB, Focus, Framing (look space, not chopping off limbs, headroom, etc) there can't be much that the individual student isn't well within his or her right to defend and justify.

(*Following Ryan's exploits got me to thinking about the couple of B&W film classes I took "back in the day" and students today have an unblinking "judge and jury" to deal with that I never did... The Histogram. The Digits don't lie...)

Thanks for the comment on the MV... The original was just a nice snapshot whcih meant it was perfect for the "Little Photoshop of Horrors..."

[Hatch1921]

5D + 24-105 on Craig's list...
$2700

Hatch
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/pho/652209973.html

[FlyingPhotog]

Wow some awesome photos here lately. Well actually almost always. Cool shots of the smoke Hatch and Jay that Green Heron turned out great!

A quick question for anyone that's traveled to St Thomas in the Virgin Islands. How safe do you think it would be to bring my camera gear along. I really want to take all my stuff with me but I am scared to death of something happening to it.
Obviously I would keep it with me at all times possible but I would guess that the hotel (blue beards castle) should have a safe to keep it in if I had to go say snorkeling or something right?
Any thoughts?

Man that's such a tough call...

You want to be able to get the best possible shots from an exotic location but you probably don't want to stress over your gear while you're trying to unwind...

The easy (but not cheap) solution would be a G9 and an underwater housing. Then you've got the best of both worlds. 12Mp, Digic III and you can take it snorkling to boot...

Have you talked to your insurance broker about a policy rider specifically for your gear? And, is it in force outside the 50 states? USVI is a territory but I'd still want the fine print deciphered for me...

Like I said, tough call. Good Luck... :D

[azphotos]

Ryan - Glad all of your hard work is paying off!

Hatch - Ohhhh smoke! Nice. Now get out your Ravi Shankar Albums!

Flying Photo - Heron looks good and the pp on building is nice effect.

Here is the new gear that arrived. A Beach Rolly. Lets you haul your gear and take a load off and even has a little sun shade while you wait for that perfect shot. Very well built and engineered German product. It is light and folds up quite small and wheels have a ring clip and come off in a second.

[FlyingPhotog]

Cool photo buggy...

Can you hang your gear on the back while sitting down on the front?
Does it balance ok with gear on the back if you get up?

[azphotos]

Cool photo buggy...

Can you hang your gear on the back while sitting down on the front?
Does it balance ok with gear on the back if you get up?

Thanks. No. You do not want to get up while gear is hanging off the back. It is an excellent question. The balance is way off. The unit is super light, but quite well built. You can lift the whole thing with your finger. A small tarp would serve the purpose to set gear beside you. Also useful for those macro shots lying on your belly!

[Kristy]

Kristy.........

New background, new clothes, and a new model (sorta).

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=5390479#post5390479

Love the New BG Brian! Awesome work there! I commented on your thread too.. :) Your little girl is sooooo cute!

Great photography Kristy. I just choked up when I saw the pictures of the baby and his dad in B/W. The music was just perfect.

:oops: Thanks.... If I can evoke some sort of emotion, then I feel fufilled... even if the shots aren't perfect... and even if I didn't get all the ones I wanted...

Babies are tough clients! :)

Nice work on the baby shoot!!! You almost made me like kids...almost. LOL I liked the last shot of the show... keep up the great work. :D
We all know you "like" kids... . but we also know you don't want one living in your house... so be a terriffic Uncle... :) Oh and thanks for the kind words... You know I appreciate it...

Kristy, I like what I've seen in the slideshow but, I've already seen like 3-4 today and one of them was like 15 min long. this one seems just as long, sorry :-/ idk, I think if it was shorter in length you would keep more attention. oh and I'm not a big fan of those ken burns effects. kinda takes away from the photo when you zoom a way you don't want it too...but that's just me.

No worries... just put it out there. It's about 8 minutes total... This is what I show the parents prior to looking at the hard copy proofs.... I always do a sit down proofing/ordering session... more personal than just posting pics on line...

Who's Ken Burns.. and what's the effect...? Ignorance is Bliss... But do tell, so I can know if i need to make changes.... Movement of the slides? I go back and forth on that.... I think movement makes it come alive.. but can easily be overdone... I start with an automated random movement, and then make adjustments to soften the effects...


Here is the new gear that arrived.

That is a flipping cool toy you have there... :) There are so many toys to choose from... sometimes it's overwhelming. Looks like you'll be traveling in style from now on. :) Enjoy!



Hey Jay.... Great shots as always... Nice and sharp on the bird... and you're challenging Hatch to a Macro Showdown, I can tell... great shot!
I always love your street shots. I was just reading about that hotel in the paper and wanted to go and shoot it... so it's extra nice to see that someone actual did! :)

[FlyingPhotog]

Hey Jay.... Great shots as always... Nice and sharp on the bird... and you're challenging Hatch to a Macro Showdown, I can tell... great shot!

I always love your street shots. I was just reading about that hotel in the paper and wanted to go and shoot it... so it's extra nice to see that someone actual did! :)

Thanks Kristy! :D

- Green Heron: Damn near stepped on him first. Very calm bird. Really happy with that particular image. Birding isn't something I've tried very often but I can see where people enjoy adding different species to their captured list.

- Challenging Hatch: I don't think he's sweating. He's still our resident "Macro Man..."

- Hotel: Like I said, it was a nice snap but needed something to give it some "umph..." I like how it turned out. It looks even better on PBase because the top of the frame just fades into the background.

If anyone's interested, I added some more shots from the bomber visit to Chandler Muni over at:
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=492108

[disneydork06]

ken burns effect: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Burns_Effect
kinda hard to explain but here it is.

some favorite shots of final edits that I showed for class.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2108/2437397857_8efe83b3e4.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3154/2438218130_10e8172e75.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2163/2438217800_d99ee08276.jpg?v=0

and then I just noticed I picked photos where the girl isn't looking at the camera...so one more...
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2267/2437403183_024c7f73d5.jpg?v=0

[Kristy]

NIce work Ryan... :) The first and third are my favorites. :) I love the pink gel in the first one.. :)

[Kristy]

For fun.....

Traversing the backyard... Big George came out of hiding, so one of his babies decided to have a ride around.... (with a little help from our peanut gallery here).

:)

[Hatch1921]

HUGE PHOTO GARAGE SALE SAT APRIL 26 (CENTRAL PHOENIX)

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Reply to: sale-654981831@craigslist.org
Date: 2008-04-24, 2:22PM MST


Ok, for weeks, I have been bragging about this garage sale. EVERYTHING is priced to sell!!!

There is Broncolor Grafit A2, Broncolor Opus 2, Pulso F2 heads and 2 satellites. Check B&H and you will know what it is!! BARELY USED...OVER $17K SPENT.

Also TWO Comet 3200 packs, a 2400 pack, 6 2400 heads, 2 3200 heads, scoops, speedrings, and NINE head extensions. FEEL FREE TO TEST ALL OF IT!! Buy some or all!!!

Hensel 1200 porty plus 2 heads, chimera speed rings, extensions, etc.


Over 20 rolls seamless $5-$10 a roll. EVERY IMAGINABLE COLOR!!

Mole Richardson "soft" hot lights

Fresnel lights (for parts or refab) Including a few with the original hand carved glass!!!

A LARGE Fresnel that has been converted to hold a Normon P-2000 head. (bring your pack and feel free to test...I have no way to test this anymore)

Darkroom equipment...4X5 hangers,

and tons of props....ladders, kitchen stuff, small trampoline, Winston Cup uniforms, trunks, basket ball hoop (use for a Charles Barkely shot!)

Way too much to list....

YOU HAVE TO COME BY AND SEE!!!

TajMaPaul Studios 2222 E McDowell Phoenix, AZ 85006 (behind Photomark)

Jennifer 602-273-7985

[disneydork06]

so what is this? all of a sudden I don't post for awhile and you guys chat away, then when I start posting again it slows down? :-P j/p with ya'll. hope everyone is having a great friday. did some night shots last night. will try and post some today before I leave for phx.

[FlyingPhotog]

<Crickets>

[xpsentity]

A quick question for anyone that's traveled to St Thomas in the Virgin Islands. How safe do you think it would be to bring my camera gear along. I really want to take all my stuff with me but I am scared to death of something happening to it.
Obviously I would keep it with me at all times possible but I would guess that the hotel (blue beards castle) should have a safe to keep it in if I had to go say snorkeling or something right?
Any thoughts?

All risk insurance is incredibly cheap. I have 10,000$ in coverage, 0 deduct, all risk, 100$/year standalone from State Farm.

I can drop my bag in the ocean and they buy me all new stuff. Get some and don't worry about it.

[disneydork06]

<Crickets>
Thanks Jay!
...thanks...

[FlyingPhotog]

Thanks Jay!
...thanks...

Aw c'mon now. It was kinda funny...

Your capstone shots look great. Were your models fellow clasmates or did they give you the freedom to go recruit your own?

Did YOU pose for anyone? ;)

[disneydork06]

HA! me pose? I still have the weight gained from when i had surgery. as soon as I can get out there and play my sports again I don't see it going away which means no photos from me. A friend did use guys in his port but this guy had some nice abs. jealous of it...actually I think I'll head to the gym right now and work on that :-P

but thank you, my models were all fellow classmates that I actually know, so i still had to recruit these girls....and I'm still a single guy :-( but I really didn't want to mix business with pleasure here...well i did but I didn't want that...uh, yeah.
SO, how was the weather in phx? I missed out on going cause I fell asleep. I have so much work to do this weekend for some projects. Lots of writing to do by me...

Oh, and it was a little funny :-) just a little

[disneydork06]

so jay, I will see your monte v pic:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3114/2442712371_38d8c6795d.jpg?v=0

and raise you a weatherford/charlies shot:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3278/2443540916_f2009be89d.jpg?v=0

so here are some night shots from a couple nights ago.

[FlyingPhotog]

Nice.

I don't have my images with me on the road but I'll call your Weatherford when I get back from Talladega. I'll raise you another landmark as well...

[azphotos]

That is a flipping cool toy you have there... :) There are so many toys to choose from... sometimes it's overwhelming. Looks like you'll be traveling in style from now on. :) Enjoy!


Thanks Kristy. This came about due to the difficulty of trying to carry water, no hips, and a camera bag along with a cranky back that needs a sit down every now and then. Will get a test run outside of Tucson tonight with a little astronomy equipment and photo equipment. Gonna try some night shots, no flash, for the first time in 30+ years.

The tort. and hitchhiker is quite cute.

Ryan nice girly shots. How come you have so many looking down?

LMAO " so jay, I will see your monte v pic: <snip> so jay, I will see your monte v pic: <snip> and raise you a weatherford/charlies shot:":lol:

[macroshooter1970]

ken burns effect: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Burns_Effect
kinda hard to explain but here it is.

some favorite shots of final edits that I showed for class.






and then I just noticed I picked photos where the girl isn't looking at the camera...so one more...


nice.....when is the final grade and graduation party?

[AZTBS]

I spent all day making "chum" to feed my fish for the next six months. I didn't think those are the kind of shots you'd all want to see, but I was just popping in. Good thing my post doesn't smell like my house.

Here's my photos to share of historic Flagstaff. I can't remember the name of the hotel. It is on the corner directly across from the train station with the tiny covered parking lot:

1 - need fresh air, get neighbor's wall:
http://www.projectbat.com/potn/flag1.jpg

2 - bathroom too small? It looks like they scratched away with a chisel by hand to make this door clear the toilet so you could even get in. Check out that clearance!
http://www.projectbat.com/potn/flag2.jpg

Of course when the door was closed, it meant there was a nice little window to look out in to the room. :)

[disneydork06]

Thanks Kristy. This came about due to the difficulty of trying to carry water, no hips, and a camera bag along with a cranky back that needs a sit down every now and then. Will get a test run outside of Tucson tonight with a little astronomy equipment and photo equipment. Gonna try some night shots, no flash, for the first time in 30+ years.

The tort. and hitchhiker is quite cute.

Ryan nice girly shots. How come you have so many looking down?

LMAO " so jay, I will see your monte v pic: <snip> so jay, I will see your monte v pic: <snip> and raise you a weatherford/charlies shot:":lol:
yeah...idk. but that's just a little piece of my capstone final. the rest are posted on my flickr. they just happen to be some of my faves.
nice.....when is the final grade and graduation party?
I think i am done with my finals on wednesday afternoon. and graduation is on the 10th...I might be having a party up here cause this friday is the last day before finals week, my bday, end of school year and grad party :-P
we should have a photo outing in honor of my graduation? yeah? we should go somewhere on the...17th? anyone?

[macroshooter1970]

we should have a photo outing in honor of my graduation? yeah? we should go somewhere on the...17th? anyone?

I have to work on that day, I work every other sat now.

[disneydork06]

darn it...then next saturday?

[FlyingPhotog]

We should go somewhere on the...17th? anyone?

Wish I could come play Ryan but I'm in my 10 weeks of Hell right now with the TV day job.

No breaks in the racing schedule until I'm done after Chicago in July.

Allow me to offer my heartiest congratulations and best of luck with where ever your heart takes you out here in the "real world." I hope it involves cameras and copious amounts of cash!! :D

Jay

[FlyingPhotog]

OBTW...

I may be getting a photo or two published in the Richmond (VA) Times Dispatch...

They're doing an article on our chief spotter (guy who help the Producer and Director find good side by side racing action around the track...) and they needed a photo or two of him "on the job" to run with the article.

I shot him this morning and forwarded the images so if they like 'em they'll run them. Can't post them until after they run but I'll add them to the old "Scenes From The Road" gallery on PBase later in the month.

Just sharing the good news...

[disneydork06]

Thank you Jay. I hope copious amounts of cash is in my near future too :-D
also, congrats on the possibility of getting published. I always get excited to see my work in print. even if it is just a student newspaper :-)

[BrianAZ]

someone is selling a 5D if anyone is interested.

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/pho/658585666.html

[Hatch1921]

I hope eveyone has had a fun weekend. I'm way behind on the posts. Congrats Ryan for your school project. I enjoyed the photos. :)

Cool looking cart Geoff :)

Way to go Jay on the possibly published photos :)

We had a family shoot this morning... fun group! Here is one of the shots... he is about to move on from being an 8th grader to a big freshman. :)

The poster frame idea down to the font was copied from Scott Kelby's site. He was kind enough to mention the font... I liked the look... the rest is all me. ROFL

Many more shots to process... I liked how this one turned out.

Kristy...Steve... I will pull the shot if you think the parents might browse POTN. :) :)

Good times! Back to processing...
Hatch

Canon 5D/Canon 70-200L IS @ f/2.8 1/500th a sec

Kristy and Steve have a good eye for where great light might be... no flash... natural light bouncing off the concrete.
http://www.azproimage.com/webphotos/df.jpg

[Hatch1921]

This ad gets me all excited thinking about going in to the photography business full time. :)

ROFL
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/pho/658382703.html

Hatch

[jafrknb]

very nice shot hatch...
you going pro? if so congrats...

[BrianAZ]

VERY nice shot Hatch.

[Hatch1921]

very nice shot hatch...
you going pro? if so congrats...

Many thanks! I'll always be a rookie... but...one that charges people money. ROFL

Thanks again,
Hatch

[Hatch1921]

VERY nice shot Hatch.


Thank you very much Brian. Glad you enjoyed the shot. He was an easy going kid...easy to pose and work with. Good times! Hatch

[disneydork06]

nice find hatch. great photo and dof.

[Hatch1921]

nice find hatch. great photo and dof.


Many thanks Ryan.

:)
Hatch

[Hatch1921]

Another shot from yesterday...

5D / 70-200L IS / F/2.8 / ISO 400 / 1/2000 a sec ( should have dropped the ISO down... but... ISO 400 hardly produces any noise)

Natural light...

I like how the eyes look... Kristy held a white reflector to open up the face a little.

http://azproimage.com/webphotos/df2.jpg

Any and all comments welcomed...
Hatch

[disneydork06]

yup, we can definitely see the reflector. and all this talk about noise. you shouldn't be scared of it at all. even if you dropped to iso100 you'd be shooting 1/500. wow...maybe you should have. j/k! anyways, if you're considering of blowing this image up a lot you shouldn't worry much about it. btw, decent skin for a teenager? or fake :-P

[Hatch1921]

yup, we can definitely see the reflector. and all this talk about noise. you shouldn't be scared of it at all. even if you dropped to iso100 you'd be shooting 1/500. wow...maybe you should have. j/k! anyways, if you're considering of blowing this image up a lot you shouldn't worry much about it. btw, decent skin for a teenager? or fake :-P


You can't see the noise in the shot... I was just saying the shutter speed was a little nutty. :) 1/2000th is a little much... this was resized from an 11x14... it is a little sharp...the eyes anyway from the resizing.

Skin...decent or fake? Well... if you have to ask... I did my job. ROFL I touched him up... skin smoothing but nothing like I would for a glam shot. Healing brush for the complection... a little cloning/dodging/burning....

All in all... not a ton. Looks like more that it is...again...I think that is compression from the resize... the original you still see skin pores and detial....

Thanks for the comments.
Hatch

[disneydork06]

skin looks good. just saying that its such a clean face for a soon to be high schooler :-P wish my face was that clear when I was a frosh in hs. where was this location?

[Kristy]

Cool Shots Frank... Here are a couple that I liked.... I'm not sure about the processing on the second shot.. might be better with black and white, but I'm not sure what I"ll do with it at this point...

Second shot is Frank's pose... I just clicked the button. Cool idea Frank! :)

I didn't do very well on composition with this session, and my focus was off on many.... **sigh** Never ending story....

[Kristy]

One more for fun...... Feel welcome to hit me with whatever criticism... At this point I can take anything you have to dish out... Tear it apart if you want to.

[JmprSteve]

kristy,
like them all, the 2nd shot needs something.... maybe darken it or more grudgy...

[FlyingPhotog]

This ad gets me all excited thinking about going in to the photography business full time. :)

ROFL
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/pho/658382703.html

Hatch

ROFL X 2 ...

Now this is what I call "Truth in Advertising..."

Ha!

[macroshooter1970]

darn it...then next saturday?


haha, I work this Sat, but May 10th would work. I really want to get out and shoot some macro now that I have so much time off.

[Hatch1921]

Those are horrible!!! Throw away the camera Kristy... you can't shoot.. ROFL COME ON!!! Those are great. I like the first shot... the second shot with the cool pose set up from the "I saw that on a video and stole the idea guy" is pretty cool. The processing as Steve mentioned is a little flat or it's just missing something. The 3rd shot is going to have his mother worried... he look 18 and ready to go on a date or 3. HA hA! I like the tone/pose/processing of the shot. Very nice!

Keep up the great work.



I had to post the link Jay... I got the feeling they had a slight chip on their shoulder. ROFL

Hatc h

[FlyingPhotog]

I had to post the link Jay... I got the feeling they had a slight chip on their shoulder. ROFL

Hatch

Gee, ya think?

Can you say "burnout?"

I find it interesting that they aren't burning the two real bridges though because they blame "Snot nosed kids and bitchy brides" but not "overly aggressive/intrusive parents or Mother's of Bride's..."

Sort of leaves a door open as it were...

[FlyingPhotog]

To Hatch + Kristy...

Dunno why you two don't go into business together...you're like two halves of the same brain...

Super portraiture by both!! Well Done...

[Kristy]

I can go into business with Frank if he will give me his lens.... Look what his lens can do... minimal eye sharpening and f/4 close up.... **sigh** wanna trade??

[disneydork06]

haha, I work this Sat, but May 10th would work. I really want to get out and shoot some macro now that I have so much time off.
haha, I wish but I graduate that day in the afternoon at 2pm so I will either be celebrating or packing all my stuff getting ready to move back to the valley.

[macroshooter1970]

haha, I wish but I graduate that day in the afternoon at 2pm so I will either be celebrating or packing all my stuff getting ready to move back to the valley.



well dang man

[FlyingPhotog]

Found this in an antique shop in Prescott...

Aerial of Jerome taken in November of 1904!

[FlyingPhotog]

...and if you believe it, I've got a mine to sell you!!

Just playing in Lightroom...does it even look "old?"

(I did, however, shoot the photo...)

[Az2Africa]

Nice Jay.
Here's something you don't see every day in Chandler. I was coming home from a movie and spotted these guys playing.
Edit: I always shoot RGB and forget to convert to sRGB to post. Thus the washed out look.:rolleyes:

267219

[BrianAZ]

...and if you believe it, I've got a mine to sell you!!

Just playing in Lightroom...does it even look "old?"

(I did, however, shoot the photo...)


I was wondering what kind of aircraft they would use in 1904. I believe the only thing available would be a hot air baloon.

[disneydork06]

Nice Jay...1904. elevation is fairly high there. it does have it's "old" look. :-)

[FlyingPhotog]

I was wondering what kind of aircraft they would use in 1904. I believe the only thing available would be a hot air baloon.

That's almost Wright, Brother... ;)

[FlyingPhotog]

Nice Jay...1904. elevation is fairly high there. it does have it's "old" look. :-)

Thanks. Shot it enroute from Prescott to Sedona...

[ToferPhotography]

I was wondering what kind of aircraft they would use in 1904. I believe the only thing available would be a hot air baloon.

yeah i was like... 1904 ... right :lol:

Congrats on the project Ryan and nice photos Kristy and Hatch.. those bees a couple pages back... amazing as always!

[Hatch1921]

Nice shots Jay. Nice PP as well. :)

Might be useful to some?
http://www.calumetphoto.com/store/sandisk2for1/?t=usenews042908&a=EWAYUS

Hatch

[disneydork06]

ooh, that's a nice deal there hatch. wish I had money to get some

[disneydork06]

so I told a friend about that deal you have there hatch. then he showed me this:
http://www.calumetphoto.com/item/IM20634/

[FlyingPhotog]

Gonna have to make room on the shelf for #5... We won another Emmy for NASCAR!

http://www.pbase.com/flyingphotog/image/62911871.jpg

[Blue-J]

Wow, Jay,

Impressive indeed!

Congrats!

[disneydork06]

nice jay! congrats

[FlyingPhotog]

Wow, Jay,

Impressive indeed!

Congrats!

nice jay! congrats

Thanks!!

Now to start working on the Pulitzer!!! :lol:

[Larry Conley]

That's almost Wright, Brother... ;)

lets see if I remember my history ...Dec 17, 1903......

[Kristy]

Cool shot of Jerome... It does look old.. now you just need to scratch it up to make it look like it's been folded in someone's nightstand for the last 50 years... LOL. :)

An Emmy! Wow! That's pretty exciting....

Always something interesting to see around here. :)

CONGRATULATIONS on finishing up Ryan!! We should all get together soon... Maybe at the latter part of May or early June...?

[ToferPhotography]

congrats Jay!

I have a friend in Seattle that works for a local TV station and it was strange the first time to walk into their place and see one there too.. since you always think it's the big boys/girls who get them!

[FlyingPhotog]

lets see if I remember my history ...Dec 17, 1903......

Yepper...

Cool shot of Jerome... It does look old.. now you just need to scratch it up to make it look like it's been folded in someone's nightstand for the last 50 years... LOL. :)

Ooooh....good suggestion. I'll have to work more on my aging techniques.

An Emmy! Wow! That's pretty exciting....

This would be #5... As excitting as it is, all I have to do is visit a friend of mine's home (he's in the business as well) where he has 18 now...

congrats Jay!

I have a friend in Seattle that works for a local TV station and it was strange the first time to walk into their place and see one there too.. since you always think it's the big boys/girls who get them!

Hmmm... I think I just got damned with faint praise (?) :lol:

At any rate, we've won five Emmys in eight years. Pretty good batting average I'd say! ;)

[Az2Africa]

Congratulations Jay. You gotta be very proud!

[FlyingPhotog]

Congratulations Jay. You gotta be very proud!

Almost as proud as I am for this:

http://www.inrich.com/cva/ric/sports/autoracing.apx.-content-articles-RTD-2008-04-30-0095.html

(Note the photo credit...) :)

[ToferPhotography]

Almost as proud as I am for this:

http://www.inrich.com/cva/ric/sports/autoracing.apx.-content-articles-RTD-2008-04-30-0095.html

(Note the photo credit...) :)

Congrats!! :mrgreen:

[FlyingPhotog]

Congrats!! :mrgreen:

Thanks!!

I'd have to say April was a pretty good month:

- Photos Sold
- Photo Published
- Added 40D
- Added 5th Emmy

Yeah, pretty good month... :D

[Hatch1921]

Thanks!!

I'd have to say April was a pretty good month:

- Photos Sold
- Photo Published
- Added 40D
- Added 5th Emmy

Yeah, pretty good month... :D


Congrats on a fantastic month! The Emmy is huge!!!

How much fun are you having with the 40D?




If you all would like to look at a few shots from the last photo session we shot... please look here... http://azproimage.com/jacob/

Steve and Kristy captured some amazing shots... they are not in this gallery :(

Please allow the "Active X" script... the Flash gallery was created in Light Room and IE throws a fit with the security settings.

Looking for any/all feedback... good, bad, or ugly :)

The slideshow goes pretty quick....

Thanks for looking.
Hatch

[FlyingPhotog]

Congrats on a fantastic month! The Emmy is huge!!!

It's nice to get the nod from your peers. The FOX broadcast of the Fiesta Bowl (the Boise State 'Statue Of Liberty' play game...) also won an Emmy but we're trying to figure out whether or not us technical types are elegible for that one too so I may have doubled up.

How much fun are you having with the 40D?

Love the 40D. It's making me actively look for things that benefit from the high FPS and it's ability to follow focus is amazing. My (ahem) older eyes appreciate the larger LCD as well.

Holds up much, much better under aggressive cropping in post, too...

[Hatch1921]

Great to hear about the 2nd possible Emmy. Keeping the fingers crossed for you.

I need to think about a second body... just to have if the 5D were to die on me. Who knows if there will be a 5DII in the future. The only issue I have with the 5D is the AF tracking of moving objects/subjects really lacks. My 20D would run circles around it! If... big if...Canon would improve the AF tracking on the next gen 5d or 6d or whatever it will be... I would buy on in a second. I love the look of the photos the 5D gives... combine that with some speed... and you have the best of both worlds IMO.

Hatch

[FlyingPhotog]

If you all would like to look at a few shots from the last photo session we shot... please look here... http://azproimage.com/jacob/

Steve and Kristy captured some amazing shots... they are not in this gallery :(

Please allow the "Active X" script... the Flash gallery was created in Light Room and IE throws a fit with the security settings.

Looking for any/all feedback... good, bad, or ugly :)

The slideshow goes pretty quick....

Thanks for looking.
Hatch

Gorgeous work...

IIRC, Kristy mentioned that these were all done in open shade with bounced sunlight? The lighting is fabulous. It's warm without being too orange and it's increadibly even. No harsh shadows or blown highlights...

Bravo and Brava...