Arizona POTN get together?

[ScottDR]

Thought I'd post two of the 30 I put up:

Full moon with sun rising behind me:

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii96/ScottDR/Imperial%20Dunes/_MG_6985.jpg

And got esses?

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii96/ScottDR/Imperial%20Dunes/_MG_7128.jpg

Once again, any feedback is appreciated! http://s262.photobucket.com/albums/ii96/ScottDR/Imperial%20Dunes/

[ScottDR]

Nice shots Brian and Hatch! Someday I hope I can tag along and pick up some pointers.

[Hatch1921]

Really nice shots Scott. Looks like a scene from the Middle East. I really like the first shot. Nice work!!!

You are welcome to join me on a shoot anytime. I will keep you posted... next time I go out I will let you know. :)

[Hatch1921]

Brian... stay away from my tree!!! :)

Another shot from this morning. What I enjoyed was working on the image for about 20 mintues... she had many stray hairs from the windy conditions... after the 20 mintues I was supposed to save the shot as a print and as a web image... I saved only the web version. :( I get to edit this one all over again. ROFL!! Time to call it a night. :)

Golden reflector used in the shot...
Hatch

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2075/2484756725_2af731d563_o.jpg

[BrianAZ]

That shot/pose is all yours, Hatch. My shots there came out with some really ugly shadows. I guess I need to have a professional reflector holder, like you did. :)

I'm really looking forward to seeing your gelled flash shots.

[Hatch1921]

That shot/pose is all yours, Hatch. My shots there came out with some really ugly shadows. I guess I need to have a professional reflector holder, like you did. :)

I'm really looking forward to seeing your gelled flash shots.


I did have a seasoned professional on the reflector. :) Many thanks! Sorry to hear the shadows are there... any chance of pulling them out some with the shadow/highlight filter in PS?

The gel shots... YIKES!!! LOL Not so hot... I will send on over tomorrow. A little scary... ROFL


Come to think of it... did I hold the reflector or did Mom? LOL :D

[BrianAZ]

I did have a seasoned professional on the reflector. :) Many thanks! Sorry to hear the shadows are there... any chance of pulling them out some with the shadow/highlight filter in PS?

The gel shots... YIKES!!! LOL Not so hot... I will send on over tomorrow. A little scary... ROFL


Come to think of it... did I hold the reflector or did Mom? LOL :D

I don't know who was holding it, to be honest. I know I was getting tired because it should have been relatively easy to see those shadows if I was paying attention.

Sorry to hear about the gel shots. I kinda figured they would have problems. Usually if you are going to use artificial light on the background, it is a good practice to use some on the subject as well. I was going to mention it to you, but I got into a conversation with Mom, and got distracted. I was really mostly interested in seeing how my background was going to look, but I needed a subject for reference. I'll know what to do better next time.

[Hatch1921]

http://www.thecameracorner.com/wordpress2/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/spring-program-2.jpg


Off to bed... catch up with you later Brian.

Hatch

[disneydork06]

Brian, love that last shot with her hand under her chin. she totally looks like elisha cuthbert in that shot.
Scott, those are great shots. I love the first as well.
Hatch, nice job on the stray hairs. I have no patience for that kind of stuff. one reason why photojournalism seems so interesting to me is that I can leave all that crap in the photo or else ethically it's just right to doctor such a photo :-P lol

[FlyingPhotog]

REBATE .. REBATE .. REBATE


Damn,

I knew I jumped the gun on the 40D too soon...*SIGH* :rolleyes:

[BrianAZ]

UGH!!!! My 85 L is only 4 days old, and now they come out with a $125 rebate?

[Hatch1921]

UGH!!!! My 85 L is only 4 days old, and now they come out with a $125 rebate?


LOL well... you could send it back... under 30 days? Buy another one and save the $125 less shipping?

This is just how my luck works out as well...
Hatch

[Kristy]

WOW! Beautiful shots Briand and Hatch. Looks like the outing was a huge success. Loving the shots. :)

And Scott... Your desert photos are awesome! I would be afraid to get sand in my lens... amazing and beautiful!

[disneydork06]

Damn,

I knew I jumped the gun on the 40D too soon...*SIGH* :rolleyes:

UGH!!!! My 85 L is only 4 days old, and now they come out with a $125 rebate?

LOL well... you could send it back... under 30 days? Buy another one and save the $125 less shipping?

This is just how my luck works out as well...
Hatch
you guys are too funny...i won't even look at the thing cause I know it will just make me a bit sad :-P especially since I can't afford anything new for awhile :-P

[JmprSteve]

Did a workshop over the weekend, the model is Noelle who was fun to work with.
Experimenting with the Black and White conversion with Photoshop Elements 4 (my work pc).

[BrianAZ]

Beautiful.

[JmprSteve]

Thanks Brian
I forgot to mention the lighting setup,basically a two light setup.
Main was in a medium sized soft box camera left (iso 100 s/s 125 f11), the hairlight was a shoot thru umbrella (iso 100 ss 1/125 f16) shot at 1/125 at f14.

Should have shot the umbrella as a reflector, had some light spill on the models left shoulder.

[FlyingPhotog]

Since the theme of the month seems to be pretty girls, I'll play:

One Light Source with a huge scrim (ie Sun behind high overcast...)
40D + 70-200 ISO 100 @ f/2.8
Minor eye sharpening and not much else. Just liked the spontaneous smile. C&C at will...
(PS...Does she look a bit pinkish/magenta to anyone else? Something in my work flow is yielding garbage looking sRGB and I can't seem to neutralize it. Adobe RGB on screen and printed is perfect... I dunno...)

[EDIT: The one on the left is the original in sRGB. The one on the right is in Adobe RBG. On my end, the Adobe RGB version matches what I see in CS3. Screw sRGB, I'm posting in Adobe RGB from now on...]

http://www.pbase.com/image/96968317/original.jpg http://upload.pbase.com/image/96976062/original.jpg

[Hatch1921]

A good review .... RadioPoppers
http://www.dreamtimeimages.com/blog/2008/05/11/radiopoppers-review-a-trial-by-fire-field-test/


I will post about the great photos when I get home... back to work I go.
Hatch:)

[BrianAZ]

Jay,

Yes, she does look at bit red/magenta. I noted that right away, even before I read your text. Are you capturing in RAW? What colorspace do you edit in? How are you converting to SRGB?

[Kristy]

SHe has a very slight cast... but honestly, I wonder how much of that is her natural coloring... when there is too much magenta, there is an absence of yellow. And I see plenty of yellow in this image.

She looks to be a bit Irish, which naturally has more of a reddish skin coloring.... When I have a free minute, I'll pull out some of the magenta and post it to see what I think can be done to improve it... but personally, I think it's passable. :)

[Kristy]

Okay, here goes me doing that thing I do...

Steve.. I love your image... Did a quick touch to it.. Don't be afraid to push the limits on curves and contrast when doing B&W... it really keeps them from looking muddy... I messed with it a bit and here's where I landed... Hope you don't mind. It's an excellent shot, I just wanted to give it a little kick... :)


My edit first, your original second... slight change but it works nicely.

Hope you don't mind the 2 minute fix-ups... now back to work for me... :)

[Kristy]

Should have shot the umbrella as a reflector, had some light spill on the models left shoulder.

I actually like the light on her shoulder for some reason... :) IT was a good mistake. :)

[Kristy]

And Jay's girl.. She may be slightly magenta, but hardly... Here's a quick adjustmen of selective color and pulling magenta out of the red channel and then a color balance layer adjustment as well.. bumped yellow and cyan just a teensy bit.

OF course all women like to know that we are beautiful and wrinkle free... so I did my duties to soften her facial lines just enough to keep them natural, and to keep her happy.. the camera picks up everything... things that we don't even see with our eyes.. so it's our job to minimize and beautify! :)

[FlyingPhotog]

Jay,

Yes, she does look at bit red/magenta. I noted that right away, even before I read your text. Are you capturing in RAW? What colorspace do you edit in? How are you converting to SRGB?

- Shooting Adobe RGB
- Editing Adobe RGB (CS3)
- Resize to 1024x on the longest side
- Sharpen to taste (usually USM but sometimes I'll use the Overlay method)
- Convert to sRGB (Soft Proofing shows no change on screen...matches original perfectly!)
- Save As .jpg (at roughly 280-300Kb)
- Upload to PBase (Magenta Color Cast Appears)
- Embed Link to POTN (Ditto)

I have to make humans look a real sickly green to get flesh tones right in sRGB. Like I said, however, my Camera -> Screen -> Printer chain is dead nuts on so I'm not gonna screw that up just to get .jpgs right.

[FlyingPhotog]

And Jay's girl.. She may be slightly magenta, but hardly... Here's a quick adjustmen of selective color and pulling magenta out of the red channel and then a color balance layer adjustment as well.. bumped yellow and cyan just a teensy bit.

OF course all women like to know that we are beautiful and wrinkle free... so I did my duties to soften her facial lines just enough to keep them natural, and to keep her happy.. the camera picks up everything... things that we don't even see with our eyes.. so it's our job to minimize and beautify! :)

Your edit looks good. I appreciate your taking the time, really! :)

One thing to bear in mind though: You're color correcting the jpg that I posted and not the RAW file. This is where my system has a fatal flaw of some kind. In Lightroom, CS3 and Bridge, her skin tones look perfectly natural. It's jpgs converted to sRGB, posted to the web and then opened in IE that look like sh*t from my end.

Everything I read says you can't do anything about it though because IE isn't color-managed so what's a photog to do? You can't go back and forth tweaking the jpg because every re-save is costs you information because of re-compression.

Maybe I'll go back and re-edit and post it again but leave in Adobe RGB. I'd rather it looked a little flat than this godawful fuscia... :confused:

[Kristy]

Your edit looks good. I appreciate your taking the time, really! :)

One thing to bear in mind though: You're color correcting the jpg that I posted and not the RAW file. This is where my system has a fatal flaw of some kind. In Lightroom, CS3 and Bridge, her skin tones look perfectly natural. It's jpgs converted to sRGB, posted to the web and then opened in IE that look like sh*t from my end.

Everything I read says you can't do anything about it though because IE isn't color-managed so what's a photog to do? You can't go back and forth tweaking the jpg because every re-save is costs you information because of re-compression.

Maybe I'll go back and re-edit and post it again but leave in Adobe RGB. I'd rather it looked a little flat than this godawful fuscia... :confused:

I wouldn't worry about it... as long as they print the way you like... right.

It's not awaful... it's very teensy slight IMO... hardly notable, and easily attributed to her natural coloring.... It's so weird how converting things can easily knock it out of sync.

Anyway, it's a cute shot, so fresh and natural looking.... and I'm loving the bokeh on it... :)

[JmprSteve]

Thanks Kristy ... I'll push the contrast more ...

Jay.. nice candid I think I remember reading somewhere about pbase shifting colors. I'll do a search on this when I get home...

As Hatch said ... back to work!

[FlyingPhotog]

NOTE: Added an Adobe RGB version for a side by side comparison in my original post...

Looks damn better to me... You?

[FlyingPhotog]

I wouldn't worry about it... as long as they print the way you like... right.

It's not awaful... it's very teensy slight IMO... hardly notable, and easily attributed to her natural coloring.... It's so weird how converting things can easily knock it out of sync.

Anyway, it's a cute shot, so fresh and natural looking.... and I'm loving the bokeh on it... :)

Thanks Kristy...

Me getting a nice, natural portrait is the photographic equivalent of the blind pig finding an acorn...

;)

[Kristy]

Thanks Kristy...

Me getting a nice, natural portrait is the photographic equivalent of the blind pig finding an acorn...

;)

:) My uncle used to say that phrase.... haven't heard it years!

Last thing from me for a while.. I have work to do....

One beautiful scene from the balcony of our condo at Cinnamon Beach. Supposedly there is a gator that lives in there, but we didn't see him.

[Hatch1921]

I can't keep up.

Jay... I'm not seeing a huge difference between the color spaces... I think the image on the left has a slight...very slight red/pink tint. But...if it was a hot day...she might be a little red. I didnt' think right away that she looked like a red hot. :) The RGB shot looks flat... I know this is common with how monitors display Adobe RGB. There is a little more yellow showing as well. Between the two...the color shifts are not huge IMO. But...we all have different standards. Not to mention... my monitor isn't calibrated. :) So... take my comments for what they are worth... :)

Cool shot Steve. I like the conversion. Kristy... your version looks like it was pushed a little far... the top/left side lost skin details. But... it could be the compression of the file and the size. A fell res shot would show more. I think something in the middle would rock!

Cool water shot. I need to get back to Florida for a little vaction... how was the weather? Starting to get humid/hot?

Good times all... back to processing photos.
Hatch

[xpsentity]

Most browsers are not color managed (they just ignore the profile), so posting in sRGB is the way to go, as it is relatively standardized across displays.

On top of that, you should see very little difference when converting from XX colorspace to sRGB.. Leaving it in aRBG is probably a worse idea than converting, as anything out of gamut will just be *really* screwy.

As a side note, aRGB may be 'better' than sRGB, but ProPhoto holds the crown of 'standard' color spaces to use. I *highly* recommend using it (as does Adobe, considering it's default in their new apps, forgoing even their own color space).

A few other notes - which color space you have selected in camera matters not when shooting raw - the only thing that matter is which color space you open and save the file in the converter. Also, soft proofing sRGB doesn't work like you'd think it does - just convert it and view it - that's how it will look on the web.

[FlyingPhotog]

Most browsers are not color managed (they just ignore the profile), so posting in sRGB is the way to go, as it is relatively standardized across displays.

Except, apparently, mine... :confused:

On top of that, you should see very little difference when converting from XX colorspace to sRGB

And I concur. I see none whatsoever.

Leaving it in aRBG is probably a worse idea than converting, as anything out of gamut will just be *really* screwy.

This is what has me scratching my head. Every possible way I can view jpgs on my computer (LR, CS3, Bridge, "Filmstrip" in My Pictures, IE Preview...) all look like the original edit in CS3. The only time my stuff looks markedly different is when it's in IE coming back off the web (PBase, Embedded in POTN or uploaded to POTN.) Zenfolio is what it is simply because those files are full-res in aRGB for printing purposes.

As a side note, aRGB may be 'better' than sRGB, but ProPhoto holds the crown of 'standard' color spaces to use. I *highly* recommend using it (as does Adobe, considering it's default in their new apps, forgoing even their own color space).

Duly noted. I need to run some images through my system totally in ProPhoto and see if I can tell any difference when they come out of the printer.

A few other notes - which color space you have selected in camera matters not when shooting raw - the only thing that matter is which color space you open and save the file in the converter.

Good nugget. Can't say I knew this...

Also, soft proofing sRGB doesn't work like you'd think it does - just convert it and view it - that's how it will look on the web.

Or not... See my note above about how things look on my end in sRGB jpg pre/post web.

Thanks for weighing in. Definately one of the best things about this group is the depth of knowledge and people's willingness to share.

Much appreciated...

[FlyingPhotog]

I can't keep up.

Jay... I'm not seeing a huge difference between the color spaces... I think the image on the left has a slight...very slight red/pink tint. But...if it was a hot day...she might be a little red. I didnt' think right away that she looked like a red hot. :) The RGB shot looks flat... I know this is common with how monitors display Adobe RGB. There is a little more yellow showing as well. Between the two...the color shifts are not huge IMO. But...we all have different standards. Not to mention... my monitor isn't calibrated. :) So... take my comments for what they are worth... :)

Color me cornfused... They look like night/day on my end. The left-hand image is really magenta/pink/oversaturated and the right-hand image looks 99.9% identical to what I see when I open the RAW in CS3. I agree it looks flatter but it looks 110% more faithful to what the light looked like when I shot it. Flat, difuse and softened by a high, thick cloud layer.

[FlyingPhotog]

But enough about me...

Scott: Awesome landscapes. The moonrise over the dunes is spectacular!

Brian/Hatch/JmprSteve: Outstanding portraiture work. Can't decide which I like more. The bright, spring color or the B&W film noir. Both are spectacular!!

Kristy: Looks like you had big fun in Florida. I hope your soul is refreshed and your muse renewed!

Thanks all for helping me disect this aRGB/sRGB conundrum. I'm simply efforting to present my work in as best a light as possible.

And so it goes...

[disneydork06]

steve, nice shot...and hellooooo Noelle :-D...oh, um, brightness on shoulder...doesn't bother me one bit :-)

Kristy, love the shot! I miss Florida

[ScottDR]

Really nice shots Scott. Looks like a scene from the Middle East. I really like the first shot. Nice work!!!

You are welcome to join me on a shoot anytime. I will keep you posted... next time I go out I will let you know. :)

Thank you Frank! It was an incredible experience just being there. And now that I can play with levels (both high and low) I can actually recreate what I saw. Now my next endeavor is learning how to sharpen selective areas. Thank you also for the kind offer...I'd LOVE to help out in a shoot sometime with you.

*snip*
Scott, those are great shots. I love the first as well.


Thanks Ryan!

*snip*
And Scott... Your desert photos are awesome! I would be afraid to get sand in my lens... amazing and beautiful!

Thank you Kristy! As I stated again I have TONS to learn about PP...but those 30 turned out very close to what I saw in person.

Sand? Well if Frank spent time in the Middle East he knows all about where it goes. EVERYWHERE. It was quite breezy after I walked in about a mile to that high perch and when it finally got light enough to see, my camera and lens were completely coated in sand but what I witnessed was worth it (even the border patrol agent that pulled up on an ATV agreed). Once I got back to town it cleaned right up no problem and no ill effects. Phew. But I will most likely have sand in my car forever!

Need to think of more places to make late night drives so I can photograph in the wee hours. I'll be more prepared this time and may try some exposures actually longer than 30 seconds. :)

[ScottDR]

Did a workshop over the weekend, the model is Noelle who was fun to work with.
Experimenting with the Black and White conversion with Photoshop Elements 4 (my work pc).

Steve...wow, that is a conversion? Makes me itch to start thinking in B&W again. I had my start and several years in B&W...now days it's hard to make my brain switch off the color after years of thinking in RGB :).

Well done sir!

[Hatch1921]

More shots from Sunday posted... many more to process...

Let me know what you think... beat me up.
Hatch :)
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=502331

[ScottDR]

NOTE: Added an Adobe RGB version for a side by side comparison in my original post...

Looks damn better to me... You?

Hi Jay,

It definitely looks better to me.

I noticed a similar issue when I order prints on-line. If i'm trying to pinch pennies-which I am (note, my wife is ALMOST done with her PhD...phew) Target can do a very nice low cost print option to 8x10. BUT, when ordered on-line through Shutterfly the JPG's get printed with overboosted cyan. I confirmed this by bringing in a jump drive with the very same JPG images and they come out looking very close to the original RGB's on my old school hi-res monitor. *shrug*

Theres my two pennies :).

[ScottDR]

Okay, here goes me doing that thing I do...

Steve.. I love your image... Did a quick touch to it.. Don't be afraid to push the limits on curves and contrast when doing B&W... it really keeps them from looking muddy... I messed with it a bit and here's where I landed... Hope you don't mind. It's an excellent shot, I just wanted to give it a little kick... :)


My edit first, your original second... slight change but it works nicely.

Hope you don't mind the 2 minute fix-ups... now back to work for me... :)

Kristy,

I really like what you did with the image. It looks more like true B&W film...with that slight softness to the skin tone (especially on her forehead). Geez, I think I need to learn a few tips from you in your PP work! :)

[ScottDR]

But enough about me...

Scott: Awesome landscapes. The moonrise over the dunes is spectacular!

Thanks all for helping me disect this aRGB/sRGB conundrum. I'm simply efforting to present my work in as best a light as possible.

And so it goes...

Thank you sir! Hope I helped some by confirming what you saw on your two posted images.

I need to stop playing catch-up on this thread...it appears I am filling up the last page, yikes!

Guess I'll be reading a little more often if possible :).

[JmprSteve]

Scott,
Thanks for the compliment, but still working on getting it better. I keep fighting the tendency to over-do the processing then over compensate and don't do quite enough. But it's getting better: here's the link that I used for photoshop Elements 4
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/452529/converting_digital_color_photos_to.html

My change in bold:
Open your image in Photoshop Elements. Create two layers. On the top layer go to Enhance menu, click Adjust Color and select Remove Color (I set the foreground color to black then use the gradiant map layer instead). In the bottom right corner of the program in the Layers menu you will see a box. The default setting is Normal. Select "Color" from the list. You should see a dramatic change in the image. This changed how the program chooses which shade of gray to display for each color. You can now fine tune exactly how you want the image to appear. Select the bottom layer (the one that still appears in color) and go to the Enhance menu, click on Adjust Color once again and select Adjust Hue/Saturation. Move the "Hue" slider back and forth while viewing the image and watch the shift in the picture's appearance. Once you are happy with how your black and white image looks you will want to merge the layer together.
You will need to add some contrast to your image. Go to the Enhance menu, click on Adjust Lighting, and select Brightness/Contrast. Adjust the brightness and contrast sliders until you like the results. The goal is to create good clean blacks and crisp whites. Don't go overboard or you will loose detail in the highlights and the shadows. Next you can go to the Enhance Menu, click on Adjust Lighting and click on Shadows/Highlights to adjust the contrast in the midtones. The top slider labeled "Lighten Shadows" will default with the curser halfway up the slider. Move it back all the way. If you want to lighten your shadows you can try moving this slider up a few numbers to get the right look. The next slider down will darken your highlights. Be very judicious using this slider. You want good clean whites and this will make them gray. The bottom slider is labeled "Midtone Contrast". Move it right to add contrast to the images midtones. This will make a big difference in your final image.

When you are finished making these adjustments you may want to sharpen your image a bit and then save it. You now have an image that is not "muddy" and that looks like it was shot with true black and white film.

[ScottDR]

Wow, thanks Steve! I concur with Jay as this is another example of the breadth of knowledge in this group. Time to save that post :).

[JmprSteve]

Here are two more, this time in color!!!
I'm not sure about the headshot - I pushed the exposure in Lightroom (it said I didn't blow out any area in the face) but not too sure if I pushed it too far. I like darker images so I'm not sure about this one.


The full body image was using a bare bulb hence the hard shadows!

Enough rambling... here are the images :

[Hatch1921]

Nice work steve. I really like the lighting in the first shot. Looks like you had a fun day out. I'll be in the class on the 18th... should be fun :)

[cntry]

WooHoo, Think I just scored, 30D and a 135 f/2 $320 out the door at a pawn shop, Played with it for a while and all seems good, will find out when I get time to play with it. 5790 on the counter........

[Hatch1921]

Holy smokes that is freaking awesome! Is the 135 soft focus or the L?

WOW Congrats!!!

[cntry]

L the "Red" Ring is what caught my eye :)

[Blue-J]

haha...um, what size bike do you recommend for someone that's only 5'8? fairly short legs.
I know I'm looking for something older. would love to finally have that 600cc sportbike but thanks to expensive camera equipment I won't be looking too hard. :-P prolly just want to find an older cruiser or touring bike. but yeah. we shall see if i can get one this summer. btw, what do you ride?


Budget and fitment are the most important criteria, here, Ryan. I have ridden many; my current ride is for the ergos, and it fits me like a custom made, which is why I had to have it.

After learning how to drive on Dad's BMW R50/2, I had a Honda 450 precursor to the sport bike. Later, a dual sport, a Kawasaki KLR 650, a standard/sport bike Yamaha Seca II (if you can find a clean used one, GET IT) it is better than a sport bike, because it can't go so fast as to get into trouble but has so much grunt, and it affordable, and easy to maintain! I then had love affair for 5 years with a Suzuki Bandit 1200S (ABS edition), but a bad shoulder and two surgeries sidelined and cursed that relationship, as it was just over 500 lbs, and had a heavy gas tank between the arms that killed me after 2 hours for another 4 years. I almost had to give up biking.

Then I found this, a BMW F800S:
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f389/jmmesch/Motorcycling/1.jpg

401 lbs, gas tank under seat for a super low COG, and 50-70 mpg, 800cc. A bit pricy but for me, a prescription that let me stay in biking, because there is no upper weight, so I have no shoulder pain after 6.5 hours of riding. It is the only ride like it now, but a Honda VFR is similar. The BMW is a lot less to insure and it costs about the same as a new VFR. They even make a low, and extra low version for shorter men, and women riders. I know a few that have them and love them.

[ScottDR]

L the "Red" Ring is what caught my eye :)

WOW!!!! Congrats on that snag. Let us know how it turns out.

[ScottDR]

Here are two more, this time in color!!!
I'm not sure about the headshot - I pushed the exposure in Lightroom (it said I didn't blow out any area in the face) but not too sure if I pushed it too far. I like darker images so I'm not sure about this one.


The full body image was using a bare bulb hence the hard shadows!

Enough rambling... here are the images :

I like the shoulder peaking out in the first and it doesn't appear you blew out anything at all :). The second shot is nice with the floor diagonal (nice angle with the signature too hehe)...and it somehow works in harmony with the symmetry of her shadow. I like them both.

[Kristy]

Here are two more, this time in color!!!
I'm not sure about the headshot - I pushed the exposure in Lightroom (it said I didn't blow out any area in the face) but not too sure if I pushed it too far. I like darker images so I'm not sure about this one.


The full body image was using a bare bulb hence the hard shadows!

Enough rambling... here are the images :

Looks like you had a fun session. I agree on the highlights... they are a little bit hot, but not so much that it's a problem for me at least.

Nice work on these.. Was it a TFCD session, or some kind of workshop? I'm lost... :) (which is pretty typical of me lately.... Duh.? Huh?)

WooHoo, Think I just scored, 30D and a 135 f/2 $320 out the door at a pawn shop, Played with it for a while and all seems good, will find out when I get time to play with it. 5790 on the counter........


Geez.... that's an amazing deal! I'm going to start hanging around pawn shops if they are selling "L" lenses that cheap! LOL.... I don't even know of a Pawn Shop... You are now
the proud owner of a lucky star... I think it drifts softly above your head and leads you to amazing deals on camera equipment... Wanna go shopping on Saturday? LOL,,

[ScottDR]

LOL Kristy! I want to learn to shop like that as well...I need another 'L' in my life :). Hell, for that price I wouldn't sneeze at another 30D body.

[cntry]

Thanks all, almost put it down (to good to be true). Holly Cow I just went through the 135L thread, what a lens!! Hope it is sharp and well! Just sitting here snapping in the bed room what boken. All a fluke I might add, buddy wasn't back from lunch at the Bike shop so I ran to the Bank got some cash and stopped at the pawn shop, never looked at what else was there, might have missed the 5D, still feeling rather good though and got the Bike running to woo hoo. Kristy if I wasn't working Saturday I would surely take you shopping!

[disneydork06]

Budget and fitment are the most important criteria, here, Ryan. I have ridden many; my current ride is for the ergos, and it fits me like a custom made, which is why I had to have it.

After learning how to drive on Dad's BMW R50/2, I had a Honda 450 precursor to the sport bike. Later, a dual sport, a Kawasaki KLR 650, a standard/sport bike Yamaha Seca II (if you can find a clean used one, GET IT) it is better than a sport bike, because it can't go so fast as to get into trouble but has so much grunt, and it affordable, and easy to maintain! I then had love affair for 5 years with a Suzuki Bandit 1200S (ABS edition), but a bad shoulder and two surgeries sidelined and cursed that relationship, as it was just over 500 lbs, and had a heavy gas tank between the arms that killed me after 2 hours for another 4 years. I almost had to give up biking.

401 lbs, gas tank under seat for a super low COG, and 50-70 mpg, 800cc. A bit pricy but for me, a prescription that let me stay in biking, because there is no upper weight, so I have no shoulder pain after 6.5 hours of riding. It is the only ride like it now, but a Honda VFR is similar. The BMW is a lot less to insure and it costs about the same as a new VFR. They even make a low, and extra low version for shorter men, and women riders. I know a few that have them and love them.
that is a sweet bike! I like the boxy look to it. I got to try a klr650 but my friend who let me ride it is like 6'3 and here I am on my toes on one foot at rest on the bike :-P i don't think I talked about the bikes I had...first used a kawasaki 83 550ltd. great bike. but the gas, after the bike sitting, would just spill out of the carb and pretty much just waste my gas :-( I couldn't get it work right since then. then i got a 90 kawasaki 500ex. really nice bike. looked like a sport bike but did not have the pep. plus it was really light which wasn't that great on really windy days. felt like I was turning just to go straight down the road. :-/ but yeah, just looking for something new to ride. maybe I should just rent a harley for the weekend since I'm not old enough :-P

Thanks all, almost put it down (to good to be true). Holly Cow I just went through the 135L thread, what a lens!! Hope it is sharp and well! Just sitting here snapping in the bed room what boken. All a fluke I might add, buddy wasn't back from lunch at the Bike shop so I ran to the Bank got some cash and stopped at the pawn shop, never looked at what else was there, might have missed the 5D, still feeling rather good though and got the Bike running to woo hoo. Kristy if I wasn't working Saturday I would surely take you shopping!
Dude, that is no fair! I've seen the pics of the 135L and i really want to try one out. would be cool to see on my 1D. now we definitely need a get together so I can try out your lens :-P :evil:

[FlyingPhotog]

Thanks all, almost put it down (to good to be true). Holly Cow I just went through the 135L thread, what a lens!! Hope it is sharp and well! Just sitting here snapping in the bed room what boken. All a fluke I might add, buddy wasn't back from lunch at the Bike shop so I ran to the Bank got some cash and stopped at the pawn shop, never looked at what else was there, might have missed the 5D, still feeling rather good though and got the Bike running to woo hoo. Kristy if I wasn't working Saturday I would surely take you shopping!

It's an oft repeated dream in my world:

I walk into a pawn shop and there sits a pristine 400mm f/2.8L IS (with Collar, Case, Caps and Hood...)

ME: "Hey, how much for that old "telescope?" "
OWNER: "I dunno, what do you think is a fair price?"
ME: "Well, considering the fact that Mead (Celestron, etc) has released several newer versions of it, how's $100?"
OWNER: "Sounds good to me..."

Shortly after this, I wake up in a very cold sweat...

Someday. Oh yes, someday...

[macroshooter1970]

Budget and fitment are the most important criteria, here, Ryan. I have ridden many; my current ride is for the ergos, and it fits me like a custom made, which is why I had to have it.

After learning how to drive on Dad's BMW R50/2, I had a Honda 450 precursor to the sport bike. Later, a dual sport, a Kawasaki KLR 650, a standard/sport bike Yamaha Seca II (if you can find a clean used one, GET IT) it is better than a sport bike, because it can't go so fast as to get into trouble but has so much grunt, and it affordable, and easy to maintain! I then had love affair for 5 years with a Suzuki Bandit 1200S (ABS edition), but a bad shoulder and two surgeries sidelined and cursed that relationship, as it was just over 500 lbs, and had a heavy gas tank between the arms that killed me after 2 hours for another 4 years. I almost had to give up biking.

Then I found this, a BMW F800S:


401 lbs, gas tank under seat for a super low COG, and 50-70 mpg, 800cc. A bit pricy but for me, a prescription that let me stay in biking, because there is no upper weight, so I have no shoulder pain after 6.5 hours of riding. It is the only ride like it now, but a Honda VFR is similar. The BMW is a lot less to insure and it costs about the same as a new VFR. They even make a low, and extra low version for shorter men, and women riders. I know a few that have them and love them.

nice bike

[disneydork06]

It's an oft repeated dream in my world:

I walk into a pawn shop and there sits a pristine 400mm f/2.8L IS (with Collar, Case, Caps and Hood...)

ME: "Hey, how much for that old "telescope?" "
OWNER: "I dunno, what do you think is a fair price?"
ME: "Well, considering the fact that Mead (Celestron, etc) has released several newer versions of it, how's $100?"
OWNER: "Sounds good to me..."

Shortly after this, I wake up in a very cold sweat...

Someday. Oh yes, someday...
great dream, i like how you play it off as a telescope :-P

[FlyingPhotog]

Time once again for my monthly Desert Light Photo Group efforts.
The theme for May is "Rust"

Your thoughts are welcome, as always...

http://www.pbase.com/flyingphotog/image/97070669.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/flyingphotog/image/97070672.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/flyingphotog/image/97070674.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/flyingphotog/image/97070676.jpg

[Hatch1921]

Great shots Jay! I really like #2 and #3... The cross sections of lines in 2 make for an interesting shot and the uniformity of #3 is interesting as well. Keep up the great work. Hatch

[JmprSteve]

Nice images Jay! I really like the 4th image and the battle scars on the car. Also the side mirror ... might have to get one for my Scion :)

[Blue-J]

nice bike

Thanks, Mike. That bike and me join with a few others to travel up the twisties (as we call those curvaceous roads) to Heber, Friday (AZ 87 to 266 to almost 277), for a weekend rally of about 400 or more bikes. I am taking the XTi with two lenses, the 28-135 IS, and the 10-22 for photos. I can post a few if anyone is interested.

It does 0-60 in just under 3 seconds, stops quick with its ABS on three disks and Brembo brakes, and bends over nicely as we ease up those road to the +/- 6700 ft Heber. It is just pure fun, and I am a believer of ATGATT - all the gear, all the time; helmet, jacket, pants, gloves, boots. See ya'll.

[ScottDR]

great dream, i like how you play it off as a telescope :-P

LOL! I like how he has this dream all planned out :). Believe the dream Jay, believe the dream!

[ScottDR]

Jay,

Really like #2 & 3 as well...#1 has an incredibly interesting background color and effect. Do you recall what it was?

[disneydork06]

Thanks, Mike. That bike and me join with a few others to travel up the twisties (as we call those curvaceous roads) to Heber, Friday (AZ 87 to 266 to almost 277), for a weekend rally of about 400 or more bikes. I am taking the XTi with two lenses, the 28-135 IS, and the 10-22 for photos. I can post a few if anyone is interested.

It does 0-60 in just under 3 seconds, stops quick with its ABS on three disks and Brembo brakes, and bends over nicely as we ease up those road to the +/- 6700 ft Heber. It is just pure fun, and I am a believer of ATGATT - all the gear, all the time; helmet, jacket, pants, gloves, boots. See ya'll.
oh wow, that sounds so fun. I'm jealous :cry: I need a bike again. would be so fun to join in outings like that. I usually get to see the mmi group ride past me as they go to school or come back from school :-P you always know who they are cause of their blue shirts and they're on a motorcycle.

[disneydork06]

before i forget guys...I saw in the paper that Pulitzer prize winning photojournalist Jack Dykinga is giving a talk about being a freelance landscape photog and he's talking about the Grand Canyon. btw, it's free and is going to be at Foothills Branch Library in glendale thursday the 15th. talk starts at 7pm.
read this from yesterdays paper. wish I can go but I'm busy all day thursday. he actually also spoke at my school several weeks ago. so I hope this is helpful for someone :-) take care all.

[FlyingPhotog]

Great shots Jay! I really like #2 and #3... The cross sections of lines in 2 make for an interesting shot and the uniformity of #3 is interesting as well. Keep up the great work. Hatch

Thanks Frank. I'm happy (and relieved) to report that all four images made it through the critique session without being shredded!! Only nit picked was a suggestion by our moderator to clone out the little bit of right headlight that is poking out behind the hood on the car shot. Can't disagree with him on this one.

Nice images Jay! I really like the 4th image and the battle scars on the car. Also the side mirror ... might have to get one for my Scion :)

I'm sure you'll find this car parked in Jerome on most weekends. Maybe you could work a deal with the owner!! Thanks for the kind comments.

Jay,

Really like #2 & 3 as well...#1 has an incredibly interesting background color and effect. Do you recall what it was?

IIRC it was simply the effect of really shallow DOF (wide open on a 24-105mm f/4L as I recall) on some foliage and a purple sign in the background. Glad you like my efforts.

Really appreciate everyone's feedback on these each month. June's theme is "Water" so stay tuned!! :D

[FlyingPhotog]

LOL! I like how he has this dream all planned out :). Believe the dream Jay, believe the dream!

What the heck, right?

I've dreamt of getting published and I've dreamt of actually selling a photo or two along the way.

So far .. so good. I just have to find the right pawn shop, that's all...

:lol::lol::lol:

[Kristy]

I like your shots too Jay... The lines in them are interesting to the eye and do a good job of capturing the viewer's attention.

I like the angle on the old car... cool perspective! :) I remember you having a neat angle on that old truck at the Botanical Gardens too (or was it the arboretum?)

[Rutha73]

Wow lots of great shots posted in the lat few days!
Hatch your portrait work is fantastic! It looks like you are an old pro at it, you might have to take the "rookie" reference out of your sig!
Guerry, great shots of the kitten! amazing to see how the eyes are changing color!
Brian, your portraits of your niece are absolutely amazing! I'm guessing you have been doing this for a while?
Scott, your dune shots are great, I love the one with the moon over the dunes, color, composition, exposure, lookes like you nailed everything perfect on that one!
Steve, nice captures of Noelle! your B&W conversion looks great! I really like the color shots too! I think the head shot looks good.
Jay, nice capture! to me it looks like the photo on the left has a little boost in saturation, my monitor isn't calibrated or anything so thats all I can tell you. That smile is great, looks like you caught her in the middle of a laugh! And for your rust series, I like them all! I think there is enough headlight and fender showing on the far side of the car that it looks good without having to clone anything out. I am really liking the angle and colors of that one!
Kristy, I like the shot of Cinnamon Beach, must be nice to get up and see water for a while!
Blue-J, great shot, and nice bike! I really like the BG on that one. I sold my bike about 2 years ago, I was hearing too many bike vs. car wrecks on the radio traffic reports and i was just getting way to tense/nervous when i was on the bike to enjoy it :(

[Blue-J]

Thanks, Jake, but what's a BG? As for too many bike vs. car wrecks on the radio traffic reports, that's why ATGATT, all the gear, all the time. Do you know what a squid means in m/c speak? Ever see that rider in no gear, or cutoffs, and sneaks?

[disneydork06]

BG=BackGround

[macroshooter1970]

Thanks, Mike. That bike and me join with a few others to travel up the twisties (as we call those curvaceous roads) to Heber, Friday (AZ 87 to 266 to almost 277), for a weekend rally of about 400 or more bikes. I am taking the XTi with two lenses, the 28-135 IS, and the 10-22 for photos. I can post a few if anyone is interested.

It does 0-60 in just under 3 seconds, stops quick with its ABS on three disks and Brembo brakes, and bends over nicely as we ease up those road to the +/- 6700 ft Heber. It is just pure fun, and I am a believer of ATGATT - all the gear, all the time; helmet, jacket, pants, gloves, boots. See ya'll.


sounds like fun, post a few if you can. thanks

[Rutha73]

Thanks, Jake, but what's a BG? As for too many bike vs. car wrecks on the radio traffic reports, that's why ATGATT, all the gear, all the time. Do you know what a squid means in m/c speak? Ever see that rider in no gear, or cutoffs, and sneaks?

BG is short for background. I know what a squid is, I have seen more than a few down here, I wore all my gear all the time also. I was riding down 202 in July in all my gear and a guy pulled up next to me on a Gixxer 1000 in sunglasses, shorts, tanktop and flip flops and looked at me like I was crazy!:rolleyes: Just had to shake my head at that one. Then he pinned it open for some reason.

[Az2Africa]

I rode bikes for a lot of years and agree about wearing full protection. I see the guys all the time with the tank tops, flip-flops and no helmet. We used to call those guys "Organ Donors".;)

[disneydork06]

I rode bikes for a lot of years and agree about wearing full protection. I see the guys all the time with the tank tops, flip-flops and no helmet. We used to call those guys "Organ Donors".;)
if there's much to donate...

[Rutha73]

I think I remember the SQUID acronym!! I was trying to remember it all day, Stupid Quick Unprotected Imminently Dead. I am pretty sure that is what someone posted it as on the sportbike forum I used to be on.

EDIT: haha my name and password still work on that bike forum here is a nice post I found with a squid pic esportbike.com (http://www.esportbike.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139069&highlight=squid)

[scottcolbath]

With all this bike talk, I think we should get together for a ride some time...With the cameras, of course.

Maybe make a run up to Prescott/Jerome/Sedona.

S.C.

[ScottDR]

Good read on that subject:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squid_(motorcycle)

We need a group shoot soon! I'm getting an itchy shutter finger :).

[disneydork06]

With all this bike talk, I think we should get together for a ride some time...With the cameras, of course.

Maybe make a run up to Prescott/Jerome/Sedona.

S.C.
oh man...I need to get a bike now then :-P can someone give me like $2000 to buy a motorcycle?
Good read on that subject:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squid_(motorcycle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squid_%28motorcycle))

We need a group shoot soon! I'm getting an itchy shutter finger :).
I too am gettin that itchy finger...but I also need some time to relax then I can go out and shoot...

[disneydork06]

does anyone know of any "REAL" portrait studios here in the valley? or any studio? I want to work as an assistant. if they do any commercial work or not. doesn't matter.

[Hatch1921]

does anyone know of any "REAL" portrait studios here in the valley? or any studio? I want to work as an assistant. if they do any commercial work or not. doesn't matter.


Ryan,

I would start here... http://www.arizonappa.com/

Hatch

[Hatch1921]

Wow lots of great shots posted in the lat few days!
Hatch your portrait work is fantastic! It looks like you are an old pro at it, you might have to take the "rookie" reference out of your sig!



Many thanks Jake but I have lots and lots to learn. Glad you enjoyed the photos. I had a blast with BrianAZ and his clients :)

Have a fun weekend.
Hatch

[macroshooter1970]

ScottDR[/b] http://photography-on-the.net/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=5539528#post5539528)

We need a group shoot soon! I'm getting an itchy shutter finger :smile:....


oh man...I need to get a bike now then :-P can someone give me like $2000 to buy a motorcycle?

I too am gettin that itchy finger...but I also need some time to relax then I can go out and shoot...


any sugestions

[FlyingPhotog]

Hi Gang...

Here's a question for those of you who are also on PBase...

Did you get an unusually high number of hits for Thursday May 15?

Ordinarilly I'd be thrilled to get 2700 hits in one day but the more I looked at the stats for each gallery and each photo in each gallery, they seemed to be unusually evenly distributed.

Litterally every gallery had the same number of hits as did each photo in that gallery.

It just struck me as being kinda weird that the hits were so evenly distributed. At first blush, I wondered if maybe PBase had been "hacked" or "hit bombed" in some way.

Anyone else?

[disneydork06]

any sugestions
uhh, idk...we all looking to do some people shooting? or bugs, plants, scenic animals, kiddies or sports shooting? maybe just have a bbq somewhere and bring cameras? take a walk at asu campus and do some candids of passerbys? or we try and find some spot news to photograph and we all submit to a local news station/paper for fun? ooh, we should have someone do something silly (make a fool of themself) and photograph it...

[macroshooter1970]

uhh, idk...we all looking to do some people shooting? or bugs, plants, scenic animals, kiddies or sports shooting? maybe just have a bbq somewhere and bring cameras? take a walk at asu campus and do some candids of passerbys? or we try and find some spot news to photograph and we all submit to a local news station/paper for fun? ooh, we should have someone do something silly (make a fool of themself) and photograph it...

I'm watching Jackass right now for some idea's. I'm up for anything, plus i never meet all the newer people that showed up after around 5/07 or so.

[Hatch1921]

Hi Gang...

Here's a question for those of you who are also on PBase...

Did you get an unusually high number of hits for Thursday May 15?

Ordinarilly I'd be thrilled to get 2700 hits in one day but the more I looked at the stats for each gallery and each photo in each gallery, they seemed to be unusually evenly distributed.

Litterally every gallery had the same number of hits as did each photo in that gallery.

It just struck me as being kinda weird that the hits were so evenly distributed. At first blush, I wondered if maybe PBase had been "hacked" or "hit bombed" in some way.

Anyone else?

Nope... I checked and the hits were average for the month... I'm surprised people even look at the photos I have on there. LOL I haven't updated the shots in so long.

Hatch

[Hatch1921]

A really good review of the 70-200L IS if anyone is thinking of buying this lens.:)

http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/canon_70-200_2p8_is_usm_c16/

Hatch

[Kamrie]

I wanted to know which one you guys like better Color or B/W? :) Thanks!

P.s I bought a waterproof cover for my camera and got some ok shots when snorkeling... I'll post those soon!
Hope everyones havinga great day!

[Kamrie]

Some snorkeling images in Cabo San Lucas.
After much debating, i decided to buy this waterproof case for my SD600
It was awesome, no sand, water, or anything in the case.
http://www.dicapac.com/

They're not the greatest quality, the water was extermely sandy, and choppy waves.

[JmprSteve]

Kamrie,
Nice jump shot, I like the color version you posted and tried a b&w conversion from the color version. Basically, lightened the shadow on the torso, lightend the face and hair, darkened the sand. The b&w was done with a gradient map, then channel mixer adjustment layer on the background layer, levels adjustment /mask to darken the sand,
levels adjustment/mask to lighten the hair and face, added noise, sharpen using high pass, then save for web. Probably could've toned done the right leg with another levels/mask adjustment layer.

[disneydork06]

ooh, cool water shots kamrie.

[ScottDR]

Hi Kamrie,

I really like the 'jump shot' as well. I like the color one best...but Steve's rendition of B&W is great!

Looks like you got some use out of the underwater case too...good for you! Hope you had an enjoyable trip. Thanks for sharing!

I think the next group outting will need to be out of the valley. I'm melting! :)

[Kamrie]

Thanks steve! I appreciate the adjustment :)

And thankyou to ryan and scott too :) i am partial to the color as well.

Yeah the case was only like $30 which worried me, but it was a great find!


I agree with a trip out of the valley... coming home to 103 degree weather is a bummer :/

[disneydork06]

oooh, so a trip up north is warranted here? so we talking like Jerome or prescott? or further up like camp verde or even flagstaff? the weather update on my phone said flag will be 54 degrees this friday...

[macroshooter1970]

i didn't even know it was over 100 today.

[disneydork06]

it's going to be another 100 degree today too...

[Cascavel]

Cool shots Kam. I too like the color photo the best but the B&W is still nice. The underwater shots came out nice. I gave that a shot down in St Thomas and St. John's but I didn't have the patience for it. The snorkeling was really awesome though.

I heard someone mention a group ride/ photo trip. That would be cool. My bike is just collecting dust in the garage.

[Guerry Dalrymple]

Here are some shots of a pair of Gila Woodpeckers nesting. I shot them from my truck windo using a Kirk window mount wiith the 40D and the 300 f4. Because of the steep angle I had to shoot at I couldn't use the view finder. I used the Live View and the programed back focus button. I don't care for the color of the sky in the one sitting on top. I'd like some CC please. What
would make them better?








http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd296/WheelchairShooter/IMG_0758Gila-Woodpecker-web.jpg

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd296/WheelchairShooter/IMG_0767Gila-Woodpecker-web.jpg

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd296/WheelchairShooter/IMG_0821Gila-Woodpecker-web.jpg

Thanks

[macroshooter1970]

it's going to be another 100 degree today too...


it feels good out there finally.

[Hatch1921]

Great shots Guerry. I really like the catchlights in the eyes. The last shot... the sky...doesn't bother me... I dig it.

Well done!
Hatch

[ScottDR]

Guerry,

Terrific shots! I agree with Frank...great sky color on the third shot. The top two photos sky color is normal while shooting closer to the horizon in the desert IMO.

The second one seems just ever so slightly washed out...not anything to worry about.

Nicely done!

[JmprSteve]

Guerry,
Well done .. The sky in the third shot reminds me what the sky really looks like. The third one is my favorite!

[BrianAZ]

Hey Folks,

I have to give some big thumbs up to Canoga Camera. I've dealt with them quite a bit recently, buying a 5D, and several L's, tripods, ballheads, etc. Well, 10 days ago, I bought an 85L. Yesterday, Canon starts an instant $125 rebate. I called Canoga, and they are going to reimburse me the $125. That is pretty good service, IMHO.

[Larry Conley]

Guerry,
Great Shots! I would be hard pressed to take and get those results with a T-Pod let alone from a car window! You asked how you can do better?....IMHO "Just take MORE!"

[FlyingPhotog]

Man, you go away for a couple of days and you get to do a lot of catching up...

Kamrie: I like where you were going with the jumping shots but I have to give a thumbs up to JmprSteve's edit. We weren't seeing your smiling face much in your B&W version.
Very cool underwater images. An alien world with which I am definately not familiar.

Guerry: Wow those are sharp images. Increadible details. Great catch in #3 with a beak full of seeds. Your birding images just keep getting better and better! As for the sky color in 1 and 2, you probably could do some tweaking with either "Selective Color" in Photoshop or with the color sliders in Lightroom (if you have either...)

Brian: Glad you had a good experience with Canoga. While I'm still kicking myself for not being just a little more patient in getting my 40D, Canoga did right by me last year when they failed to update their website regarding a Pixma 9000 rebate. They credited me the difference on that deal. They're aces in my book, too.

And finally, here's a little something I whipped up while trying to make a silk purse image out of a sow's ear photo:
(Note: Despite my earlier color rendering issues, this is correct... These were Dodge-Red cones, not safety orange...)

http://www.pbase.com/flyingphotog/image/97304260/original.jpg

[disneydork06]

nice shots Guerry. I like the clarity of the shots as well.
and Jay, love the shot. the dof is nice and the red really pops. nice work.
I just got my camera in the shop to get its sensor cleaned. here's to hoping for little to no pp needed when I shoot at high iso again.

[azphotos]

Wow! Some really nice shot folks! Thanks for sharing.

[FlyingPhotog]

This was originally a rather basic B&W conversion from a couple of years ago that I think I did in PS Elements.

I decided to go back and take another crack at punching up the contrast plus a few other tricks via LR and CS3.

Like? Hate? Change?

http://www.pbase.com/flyingphotog/image/97367813/original.jpg

[Larry Conley]

Jay
I love the image esp in B&W but I am a little confused on the position of the sun and the shade..I know I am a novice in here...but I'm trying to figure it out. otherwise it's a great photo!

[macroshooter1970]

This was originally a rather basic B&W conversion from a couple of years ago that I think I did in PS Elements.

I decided to go back and take another crack at punching up the contrast plus a few other tricks via LR and CS3.

Like? Hate? Change?




Nice shot, I miss Santa Fe.

[BrianAZ]

Two really nice shots, Jay. It isn't easy making something interesting out of a bunch of traffic cones.

[Kristy]

Two really nice shots, Jay. It isn't easy making something interesting out of a bunch of traffic cones.

Yep, I agree... :) Jay has such an awesome eye for the angles and lines in this type of work. Very nice. :)

[ToferPhotography]

Jay
I love the image esp in B&W but I am a little confused on the position of the sun and the shade..I know I am a novice in here...but I'm trying to figure it out. otherwise it's a great photo!


I also like it.. but the sun / shadows don't seem to "make sense" ?

[FlyingPhotog]

It's 1pm sun that is directly above and behind me.

Look at the divergent shadows being cast by the ends of the beams that make up the ramada over the entrance.

Notice also that the shadow angles match for each direction that the rain spouts are pointing:
- Down Right for the spouts pointing right
- Down Left for the spouts pointing left

Here's the original:

[JmprSteve]

Jay,
Thanks for the explanation, the more I looked at the image the more confused I got on where the sun was.
Nice compositions with the cones and the crop on the building.

[ToferPhotography]

Thanks Jay, hope you didn't take it as a crack on the shot... just the shadows were blowing my mind :)

http://www.tellmewhereonearth.com/Web%20Pages/Humor/Humor%20Photos/H11.JPG

[Kristy]

Thanks Jay, hope you didn't take it as a crack on the shot... just the shadows were blowing my mind :)




Yeah... I think he had all of us a little confused on that one.... I'm still trying to figure it out in my mind even though he explained it.... DUH!! ;)

[Hatch1921]

Awesoem shots Jay! You do have an eye for patterns/angles. The B&W shot... I would print it large and hang it on the wall. Fantastic conversion!
Hatch

[FlyingPhotog]

Tried to multi-quote everyone but I guess [quotes] count as image tags so it won't let me do all of them in one reply.

So, I'll just say Thank You to everyone who weighed in. Glad you like my latest efforts. Very gratifying to say the least.

[macroshooter1970]

Anyone shooting macro this Sat

[FlyingPhotog]

Anyone shooting macro this Sat

Entirely possible but unfortunately, if I do, it will be in North Carolina...

Coca Cola 600 weekend...ugh. Do they really need to run the extra 100 miles?

[disneydork06]

Nice shot Jay...but how could people not tell where the position of the sun is, I mean it's as plain as day! J/P folks! :-P but yeah, I really like the b/w conversion there.

as for macro saturday, I won't be able to. I got a graduation party to go to and also a wedding later that night to shoot and also enjoy my time there...just as soon as i remember to pick up my camera on friday morning from photomark :-P

[disneydork06]

Entirely possible but unfortunately, if I do, it will be in North Carolina...

Coca Cola 600 weekend...ugh. Do they really need to run the extra 100 miles?
lol, ya know I really don't get nascar...nothing like f1 racing, or bike or even drifting...we're the only country to have this sport.

[disneydork06]

I heard someone mention a group ride/ photo trip. That would be cool. My bike is just collecting dust in the garage.
so I just read this...If you need some help getting that bike out of the garage for a bit I can help you out and take it for a spin sometime :-D

[FlyingPhotog]

lol, ya know I really don't get nascar...nothing like f1 racing, or bike or even drifting...we're the only country to have this sport.

<BUZZER>

Canada
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CASCAR

NASCAR has been to Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxAfyj8cgpM

;)

[disneydork06]

wow...nascar in japan...totally didn't see that especially with the vehicles they have there. not many of our "imported" cars there...I can see them mainly as an asian market cars

[FlyingPhotog]

wow...nascar in japan...totally didn't see that especially with the vehicles they have there. not many of our "imported" cars there...I can see them mainly as an asian market cars

It was an exhibition race run (IIRC) after that season had finished...

Somewhere, I have a program from that race that another technician who went over as part of the TV crew (graciously) gave me for my collection.

[ToferPhotography]

i am still to this day amazed just how popular NASCAR has become.. i mean you turn left and go in circles :lol:

[Cascavel]

so I just read this...If you need some help getting that bike out of the garage for a bit I can help you out and take it for a spin sometime :-D

Have at it!! It may be a little slower than your used to though. ;)

[joeb1]

i am still to this day amazed just how popular NASCAR has become.. i mean you turn left and go in circles :lol:

Yeah... I occasionally drag race. The saying is "If you can turn, you're not going fast enough." :)

[scottcolbath]

oh man...I need to get a bike now then :-P can someone give me like $2000 to buy a motorcycle?


I'll let you take my KTM for a spin some day. We can run from Wickenburg up to Jerome for something to eat, and bring the cameras of course.

You need long legs though. The seat height is 38". Can you swing it?

PM me if you're interested.

S.C.

[Rutha73]

Kamrie, looks like Cabo was a blast, I'm liking the jumpshot! those UW pics are great too, makes me miss scuba diving :( The pic that is straight down makes me a little dizzy!
Steve, nice conversion, looks good with the shadow lightened so you can see Kamrie's face and smile!
Guerry, great shots of the Gilas! To answer your question of what would make them better, I would say PRINT THEM and hang them on the wall! I think they are awesome!
Jay, you have a great eye for photography. I wouldn't have looked at cones and thought about a shot like that! And the Santa Fe shot, Stunning. Everything about it, the crop, the light, the angles. When I saw the original I was amazed at how you picked that one part to crop into! I would have gotten a pic of the whole thing and called it good!

As for NASCAR in Japan, they have a car n the cup now, the Toyota Camry is on the track now. And if Disney is out of town and anyone wants thier bike dusted off and ridden, give me a call! I didn't want to sell mine, but did 2 years ago because i didn't want to pay for it and insurance on it.:( I would be up for some macro work this weekend, I don't think the wife has filled our schedule yet. Does anyone else here shoot guns too? I haven't gone to the range in a while and am getting an itchy trigger finger.

[disneydork06]

Have at it!! It may be a little slower than your used to though. ;)
sweet. how many cc is the bike? but really, my bikes weren't fast at all...if anything they weren't fast enough :evil: my first bike had the tach top out at 85mph. but yeah, let me know I will give it a spin :-)

Does anyone else here shoot guns too? I haven't gone to the range in a while and am getting an itchy trigger finger.

ooh, what range do you go to? I don't think I'm too far from ben avery's. It's fun to shoot some guns but when I was in Flag we just went out far from the city to shoot out there. I would actually like to go to a range and hit some actual targets other than some pop cans :-P but yeah, my dad has some guns that I think needs some time out at the range :-) i'm sure we're gonna have to clean them first...

[Rutha73]

ooh, what range do you go to? I don't think I'm too far from ben avery's. It's fun to shoot some guns but when I was in Flag we just went out far from the city to shoot out there. I would actually like to go to a range and hit some actual targets other than some pop cans :-P but yeah, my dad has some guns that I think needs some time out at the range :-) i'm sure we're gonna have to clean them first...

I like to find places out in the desert where I can shoot innocent targets like melons and stuff that gives a good reaction to getting hit with a bullet. Ben Avery is about 45 mins away from me, I am close to Usery Pass (about 15 mins) and I go to Caswells for an indoor range.

[disneydork06]

I like to find places out in the desert where I can shoot innocent targets like melons and stuff that gives a good reaction to getting hit with a bullet. Ben Avery is about 45 mins away from me, I am close to Usery Pass (about 15 mins) and I go to Caswells for an indoor range.
nice, what kind of guns do you have?

[Rutha73]

nice, what kind of guns do you have?
a couple of pistols (.22, .25, 9mm, .40, .45, .44), couple of rifles (.22, 7mm WSM, .30-06) and a few shotguns (mostly Mossbergs). What do you have?

[macroshooter1970]

a couple of pistols (.22, .25, 9mm, .40, .45, .44), couple of rifles (.22, 7mm WSM, .30-06) and a few shotguns (mostly Mossbergs). What do you have?


ever take pictures of exploding melons or anything. how do you like the 40 cal, I've been thinking about getting one?

[Rutha73]

ever take pictures of exploding melons or anything. how do you like the 40 cal, I've been thinking about getting one?

That would be fun and messy! How would you set that up? Anyway, The .40 was one of the first pistols I bought and it is my carry gun (I have a CCW). I like the .40, but I would suggest trying out some of the popular calibers to see how you like the recoil of different calibers.

[jbdavies]

ever take pictures of exploding melons or anything. how do you like the 40 cal, I've been thinking about getting one?

That would be fun and messy! How would you set that up? Anyway, The .40 was one of the first pistols I bought and it is my carry gun (I have a CCW). I like the .40, but I would suggest trying out some of the popular calibers to see how you like the recoil of different calibers.

My handgun is a .40... I love it. I've shot my brothers .45 and 9mm also... but the .40 just feels right to me.

Anywhoo... Hello, I also live in Arizona. lol :D

[macroshooter1970]

That would be fun and messy! How would you set that up? Anyway, The .40 was one of the first pistols I bought and it is my carry gun (I have a CCW). I like the .40, but I would suggest trying out some of the popular calibers to see how you like the recoil of different calibers.

not sure, I'd like to try it some time. I've owned many hand guns different cal and shot guns. Currently own a 9mm, just been thinking about a .40

[macroshooter1970]

My handgun is a .40... I love it. I've shot my brothers .45 and 9mm also... but the .40 just feels right to me.

Anywhoo... Hello, I also live in Arizona. lol :D


another new person snuck in, almost didn't see you. how's it going?

[jbdavies]

another new person snuck in, almost didn't see you. how's it going?
lol I tend to just lurk around and make people feel uncomfortable. ;)

Pretty good! You?

[FlyingPhotog]

lol I tend to just lurk around and make people feel uncomfortable. ;)

Pretty good! You?

Oh good...

Now I gotta remember to duck over here too... :rolleyes:

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Welcome to the AZ corner of POTN...

[macroshooter1970]

lol I tend to just lurk around and make people feel uncomfortable. ;)

Pretty good! You?

im good, just bored taking pictures of stupid things here at home.

[jbdavies]

Oh good...

Now I gotta remember to duck over here too... :rolleyes:

<j/k>

Welcome to the AZ corner of POTN...

Hahahaha... yeah, sorry. I tend to bring it with me wherever I go. lol

And thanks! :)

im good, just bored taking pictures of stupid things here at home.

Hmmm.... know how you feel... I'm bored... but don't really feel like taking any pics... :confused:

[FlyingPhotog]

Jay, you have a great eye for photography. I wouldn't have looked at cones and thought about a shot like that! And the Santa Fe shot, Stunning. Everything about it, the crop, the light, the angles. When I saw the original I was amazed at how you picked that one part to crop into! I would have gotten a pic of the whole thing and called it good!

Thanks for the very kind words. It's very gratifying to know when an image has made an impact.