Sigma 10-20mm f/4-5.6 EX DC HSM - Wigma

[brecklundin]

skanter...I'm learning a bit more every day...I think I can try that. It's just a rotten location to get a pic. And trust me this is it's "good side" the background and other junk seen from any of the other directions is worse. ;)

Glad ya liked the tree. Amazingly enough the name of the street where the tree is located is, are ya ready, Cypress...see, we are not a creative people nor are we crafty, but we try hard. ;)

EDIT: Well, geeze, PS is cool...what a cleaner image!! thanks for the suggestion.

[whazzzzuup]

These were shot at 0330h with my new Sigma 10-20mm UWA. 3 studio flashes with 2 umbrellas were also used.

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h69/whazzzzuup/Picture109_filteredcopy.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h69/whazzzzuup/Picture139copy_filteredcopy.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h69/whazzzzuup/Picture108_filteredcopy.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h69/whazzzzuup/Picture124copy_filteredcopy.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h69/whazzzzuup/Picture035copy_filteredcopy.jpg

[Adamora]

Weeeeee

[brecklundin]

oh, I LIKE that one!!

[Adamora]

Glad you do. this was taken at like 5pm :0. so shutter speed limited my ventures.

[skanter]

skanter...I'm learning a bit more every day...I think I can try that. It's just a rotten location to get a pic. And trust me this is it's "good side" the background and other junk seen from any of the other directions is worse. ;)

Glad ya liked the tree. Amazingly enough the name of the street where the tree is located is, are ya ready, Cypress...see, we are not a creative people nor are we crafty, but we try hard. ;)

EDIT: Well, geeze, PS is cool...what a cleaner image!! thanks for the suggestion.

Much better!

[skanter]

I plan to test my 10-20 this weekend. Any suggestions? I was thinking a close brick wall at different apertures (open, f8, f11) at 10mm, 15mm, 20mm - then a far subject at same apertures.

Any other ideas?

[Adamora]

If you think the edges are a tad soft, Dont, the wide angle does it.

[nyy]

Just ordered a Hoya extra thin super mc cpl. Can't wait to slap it on.

[brecklundin]

nyy:

cool...I am saving for one...btw, I would recommend ROR (Residual Oil Remover) as a cleaner for your hard to clean Hoya coated filters. It's AMAZING stuff. Ya use very little and a 2oz. bottle should easily last a year for most of us...

[skanter]

Did some more shooting with lens on the street, got mixed results. I think the lens is fine, but I am unfamiliar with shooting with a SWA. A few questions:

I usually shoot with one-shot AF (350D), not sure if it matters. I assume everyting is in focus past about three feet as there is huge DOF with this lens. Does it matter what one focuses on unless close? Some of my shots of far-away scenes seem very soft. Shooting close subjects seem quite sharp. Does it matter much if one shoots at f8 or smaller?

Exposures often are over-exposed, as lens is taking in so much and I usually use small center for exposing. I assume i should use another exposure mode with this wide lens - what do you 10-20 users usually use? With so much in the FOV, what do you expose for - the brightest part?

I'll probably figure this all out with experimentation - this is an exciting lens!

Also, besides just shooting, what is a definitive test for the lens...?

Thanks in advance for replies...

[Terry_Hill]

Got my copy on Tuesday. I really like it but can't decide if its sharp as I guess I'm just not used to such a wide angle lens. Heres one of the shots I've taken since getting it for your opinions. I know its not a 100% crop but my PS skills don't stretch that far yet unfortunately.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3175/2633967179_9e19e0f016.jpg

Can't work out how to put the image from flickr in unfortunately so just the link

[nyy]

nyy:

cool...I am saving for one...btw, I would recommend ROR (Residual Oil Remover) as a cleaner for your hard to clean Hoya coated filters. It's AMAZING stuff. Ya use very little and a 2oz. bottle should easily last a year for most of us...
Where do you buy yours?

[skanter]

Got my copy on Tuesday. I really like it but can't decide if its sharp as I guess I'm just not used to such a wide angle lens. Heres one of the shots I've taken since getting it for your opinions. I know its not a 100% crop but my PS skills don't stretch that far yet unfortunately.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3175/2633967179_9e19e0f016.jpg

Can't work out how to put the image from flickr in unfortunately so just the link

Too small to tell anything. Is there a way Flickr dispalys larger image?

[skanter]

If you think the edges are a tad soft, Dont, the wide angle does it.

Corners seem soft when shooting far away subjects, sharp when subjects are closer. Does this seem normal? Even the center seems much softer when shooting subjects that are further away...

[google]

Too small to tell anything. Is there a way Flickr dispalys larger image?

You need flickr pro to see the original size.

Otherwise, to post the largest image you can, right click on the image and choose "copy image location" and paste it here.

[Terry_Hill]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3175/2633967179_9e19e0f016_b.jpg

that's better?

Flickr gives you the code below the image but rather than [IMG] tags it has [URL] tags so a quick swap and its all good

[shadowkipper]

I'm snapping this baby up in August.
A great lens for a great price on eBay.

[skanter]

I'm snapping this baby up in August.
A great lens for a great price on eBay.

Personally, I wouldn't get a Sigma lens mail-order. I've never had a good one on the first try. I just returned a totally defective 10-20mm from B&H (I live nearby). Hopefully, this one is OK.

[tofupok]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3051/2334215348_f17b62c7be.jpg?v=0
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2291/2334215342_9caff936b2.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3145/2333388717_e552dda0dd.jpg?v=0

[1downfall]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3175/2633967179_9e19e0f016_b.jpg

that's better?

Flickr gives you the code below the image but rather than [IMG] tags it has [url] tags so a quick swap and its all good
thanks for reposting with the info on flickr...i did not know how to do this either....great...more pics to come!!

[1downfall]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3051/2334215348_f17b62c7be.jpg?v=0
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2291/2334215342_9caff936b2.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3145/2333388717_e552dda0dd.jpg?v=0
#3 looks great IMO......i like the PS work and the angle!

[brecklundin]

Did some more shooting with lens on the street, got mixed results. I think the lens is fine, but I am unfamiliar with shooting with a SWA. A few questions:

I usually shoot with one-shot AF (350D), not sure if it matters. I assume everyting is in focus past about three feet as there is huge DOF with this lens. Does it matter what one focuses on unless close? Some of my shots of far-away scenes seem very soft. Shooting close subjects seem quite sharp. Does it matter much if one shoots at f8 or smaller?

Exposures often are over-exposed, as lens is taking in so much and I usually use small center for exposing. I assume i should use another exposure mode with this wide lens - what do you 10-20 users usually use? With so much in the FOV, what do you expose for - the brightest part?

I'll probably figure this all out with experimentation - this is an exciting lens!

Also, besides just shooting, what is a definitive test for the lens...?

Thanks in advance for replies...

I have switched from evaluative metering to spot and switch between One Shot and AI Servo mode. I have a 40d so I am not sure what other bodies have as the next setting but I set C.nFIII: Auto Focus/Drive~"AF Mode selection method" to Multi-controller direct. This has really helped me in my image captures. but like I said this is my first DSLR and first SLR in over 30yrs so I have no clue what preceding model menu systems and settings might be...

Personally I do not think there are definitive tests for a lens beyond testing for AF functioning properly and front/back focusing. Otherwise, check for internal element goobers and then shoot stuff.

I have posted this before, I have discovered if I pic on lens and make myself use only that lens that day, it seems to be like tossing the kid in the deep end to teach him/her to swim...if the bubbles stop coming up then, well, it was just not the right copy so get another one. :p

Where do you buy yours?

I bought my ROR from Don's Camera online (http://www.donscamera.com/ROR-Residual-Oil-Remover-Lens-Cleaner-2-ounce-p/vv-ror2.htm), it was reasonable for a 2oz bottle and I had it in 2 or was it 3 days? I think it was 2-days after I ordered. I even filled my Targus lens brush & spritzer with some of the ROR so I always have it at the ready. And it takes VERY LITTLE, for smaller lenses just a quick short *poof* of the spray on the cloth then gently cleaning goes a long way.

BTW, a nice side use is I got all the body oils out of my laptop mouse pad and palm rest and also the keyboard. Plus the display looks as clear as it did new.

[brecklundin]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3175/2633967179_9e19e0f016_b.jpg

that's better?

Flickr gives you the code below the image but rather than [IMG] tags it has [URL] tags so a quick swap and its all good

Terry:

THAT IS AMAZING...I really like that shot...since I am ahhhhhtistic (as in ahhhhhh at least you tried) not artistic, I can never express why I like something artistic, I just can say I like it then hit a wall in terms of explaining why I like something. But that is a well done picture to my tastes.

[skanter]

What AF and exposure modes do you other 10-20 users use?

[HankScorpio]

What AF and exposure modes do you other 10-20 users use?
M and M.

[royv]

M and M.

Ditto.

[Adamora]

Manual...and manual xD?

[Geejay]

Usually AF and Av for me..

[_aravena]

Focus depends on subject but my camera is always set to M.

[BobbyT]

Focus depends on subject but my camera is always set to M.
Same for me.

[brecklundin]

always manual. I tried some of the priotrity modes and just feel better with full manual. But shooting mode could be dependent on each individual tastes and plan for an given capture. Of all the priority modes I usually use Tv the most after M.

[skanter]

Interesting, that many do not use AF. If one has a subject with a lot of depth (like a landscape), where do you focus - in the middle?

I'm used to using center-point AF and exposure - not good with this lens.

I'm finding that using center for exposure doesn't work well with this lens - too much bright (blown out) sky in many pics. What strategy do you use for getting a good exposure with SWA?

[skanter]

From yesterday:

http://skanter.smugmug.com/photos/325559464_9yuY5-L.jpg

[brecklundin]

Interesting, that many do not use AF. If one has a subject with a lot of depth (like a landscape), where do you focus - in the middle?

I'm used to using center-point AF and exposure - not good with this lens.

I'm finding that using center for exposure doesn't work well with this lens - too much bright (blown out) sky in many pics. What strategy do you use for getting a good exposure with SWA?

Here is a pic I posted earlier (the one I yanked out the power/phone lines from...) http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=5839724&postcount=1208

That was full sun, hazy day, spot metering, full manual mode and AF as i described earlier. It took me a while to get the hang of not blowing out the sky on every single goll-dern'd shot but I am much better at it. Basically I stop down and don't completely depend on the meter, more by feel now. I wish I had the vocabulary and experience to explain my process, but I am simply not at that level yet. I can say that I am working off of the blown photo's in the past and simply not using the same settings. This is getting me much improved results.

BTW, neither pic used a CPL and both are on the 10-20mm...


Here is another pic I took in the same session:

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=529703

[BobbyT]

http://images25.fotki.com/v955/photos/9/949682/6432640/Fireworks0864-vi.jpg

http://images27.fotki.com/v1021/photos/9/949682/6432640/Fireworks0872-vi.jpg

http://images25.fotki.com/v905/photos/9/949682/6432640/Fireworks0860-vi.jpg

http://images39.fotki.com/v1229/photos/9/949682/6432640/Fireworks088-vi.jpg

[Terry_Hill]

Terry:

THAT IS AMAZING...I really like that shot...since I am ahhhhhtistic (as in ahhhhhh at least you tried) not artistic, I can never express why I like something artistic, I just can say I like it then hit a wall in terms of explaining why I like something. But that is a well done picture to my tastes.

Errrr wow thanks...........

and there was me worrying if the thing was sharp or not. I guess if it gets that kind of reaction it can't be too bad!

Thanks again as its always nice to get a complement. :lol:

[skanter]

I'm beginning to think my new copy is defective as well!

The AF distance indicator is rarely correct. When I AF on a distant object, it says 3 feet. Often the distance indicated is incorrect. Am I missing something, or is this another defective HSM???

[Adamora]

I returned my first one after screaming the managers ear off, i got a new one, works like a charm, do so yourself.

[skanter]

I returned my first one after screaming the managers ear off, i got a new one, works like a charm, do so yourself.

What was wrong with your first?

I assume the AF indicator should be accurate - am I missing something??

My first copy was totally defective - the distance indicator didn't move at all. This one moves, but is incorrect.

I'll return to B&H, but I don't think screaming at the manager will help...:cry:

[HankScorpio]

I'm beginning to think my new copy is defective as well!

The AF distance indicator is rarely correct. When I AF on a distant object, it says 3 feet. Often the distance indicated is incorrect. Am I missing something, or is this another defective HSM???
Have you really looked at the distance indicator? Like most it goes from minimum focussing distance, in this case 0.8 ft to 3 ft along most of it's travel then from 3 ft to infinity is a very tiny movement and easy to misread.

How are the images from the lens? If they are good then don't worry. Your question prompted me to look at the distance indicator on mine for the very first time. I doubt I'll look at it again as it produces very nice images.

[skanter]

Have you really looked at the distance indicator? Like most it goes from minimum focussing distance, in this case 0.8 ft to 3 ft along most of it's travel then from 3 ft to infinity is a very tiny movement and easy to misread.

How are the images from the lens? If they are good then don't worry. Your question prompted me to look at the distance indicator on mine for the very first time. I doubt I'll look at it again as it produces very nice images.

I've looked at the distance indicator very closely. It is totally incorrect. I focus on a distant object, it reads UNDER 3 feet. Sometimes it doesn't move at all when I change distances. My other Sigma lens (18-200 OS) reads the distance accurately every time.

As far as images go, I'm not sure about focus. I've taken lots of test images, most seem in focus, but with a huge DOF that is natural. I certainly don't want a lens that has a defective AF mechanism, or is not interfacing with my camera correctly.

If you could look at it the indicator again, I'd appreciate your telling me if it seems to accurately indicate the distance, taking into account the small range between 3 feet and infinity.

Thanks...

[HankScorpio]

I can't really tell the difference between 5 feet and 20 feet with mine, the movement is very small. Under 3 feet it does seem fairly dead on but over 3 feet is anyone's guess really.

[skanter]

I focus on distant buildings, 200 yards away. The indicator reads under 3 ft. Does this happen with yours?
Anyone else?

This sounds like its defective to me - do you disagree? (just trying to find out if there is any other reason). Thanks...

[brecklundin]

there should be tiny movements between 3' to infinity because that area of the scale represents a HUGE range. But still if you are using spot metering and point at something a couple hunder feet away I would hope it goes to infinity.

Here is a test you might try to see if the scale is off and the lens is still focusing or the whole thing is foobar'd...on a very distant subject that should be in the infinity range of the lens, run a test shot with AF on then turn it off and manually focus on the same target but crank the focus to infinity...see if that makes a difference in the distant object.

I have read many lenses from many different mfg's can have probs so it's not unreasonable. Still one should expect perfect functioning from a new item.

[skanter]

there should be tiny movements between 3' to infinity because that area of the scale represents a HUGE range. But still if you are using spot metering and point at something a couple hunder feet away I would hope it goes to infinity.

Here is a test you might try to see if the scale is off and the lens is still focusing or the whole thing is foobar'd...on a very distant subject that should be in the infinity range of the lens, run a test shot with AF on then turn it off and manually focus on the same target but crank the focus to infinity...see if that makes a difference in the distant object.

I have read many lenses from many different mfg's can have probs so it's not unreasonable. Still one should expect perfect functioning from a new item.

Funny, I just did the exact same test as you suggested - with weird results.

I AF on a building a few hundred yards away (which read a little over 3 ft). Then took off AF, , manually set to infinity and took the same shot (3X each).

The AF shots were in focus, the infinity shots were out of focus. :confused:

Unless I'm missing something, this lens is having focusing problems - manual and AF!

I tried it on a building a mile away -- same results!

[brecklundin]

worst case is call Sigma and see what they suggest. Or if the store where you bought it allows exchanges take it in or call them and see what they might offer as a solution.

[skanter]

worst case is call Sigma and see what they suggest. Or if the store where you bought it allows exchanges take it in or call them and see what they might offer as a solution.

I might just be being a bit paranoid. Some research shows that SWAs do not always display accurate distance readings.

Could you look at yours and see if you get similar inaccurate readings?

Thanks...

[Adamora]

Post some pics people! ether it be your toes or your tomatoes! we need some pics :D

[skanter]

Post some pics people! ether it be your toes or your tomatoes! we need some pics :D

Here's some from yesterday - please comment on sharpness of copy - I'm still not sure about this one and I still have 10 days to return:

http://skanter.smugmug.com/gallery/5337705_kT8fx#326239873_DJgRF

[Adamora]

Here's some from yesterday - please comment on sharpness of copy - I'm still not sure about this one and I still have 10 days to return:

http://skanter.smugmug.com/gallery/5337705_kT8fx#326239873_DJgRF


Sharp as a Sharpner! seriously, thats a extremely good copy mate.

[skanter]

Sharp as a Sharpner! seriously, thats a extremely good copy mate.

Thanks, Adam. Is it your opinion that I shouldn't worry about distance indicator's lack of accuracy? Again, sometimes when I AF on distant buildings it reads under 3 feet. Still seems to AF OK though...

[Adamora]

unless it interferes with the actual focusing, Forget about it :D, i have a sigma thats soft at 2.8( and i do mean SOFT) but a killer at 4.5, and i still use as my walk around lens.

and the af meter could be stuck, thats it. if you see the focus actually moving then everything is fine.

Ps: try putting it on manual and moving the focus ring two and fro very fast. see if it moves. the af meter i mean.

[skanter]

unless it interferes with the actual focusing, Forget about it :D, i have a sigma thats soft at 2.8( and i do mean SOFT) but a killer at 4.5, and i still use as my walk around lens.

and the af meter could be stuck, thats it. if you see the focus actually moving then everything is fine.

Ps: try putting it on manual and moving the focus ring two and fro very fast. see if it moves. the af meter i mean.

Moves fine in manual (it looks like the "meter" is actually one of the lens elements moving, so I'm not sure it could be stuck. Then again, I know little about what's inside this thing.) :oops:

I guess I can accept that the indicator is not accurate, if others' copies do the same thing. If not, I may bring it back to B&H and have them take a look -- I live only a few blocks away.

[brecklundin]

no matter what...since you are close, wander back and ask to compare to their demo lens and see what happens. Easy peace of mind, unless of course, you cannot be trusted to walk out of the "toy store" w/o new toys...hehehehehe...

[brecklundin]

BTW, here is a work in progress I am trying to get just right. It's one of the many murals around our town that are commissioned by a special mural society:

40d, f/11, 1/200s, ISO 800, 16mm, Spot Metering

[skanter]

no matter what...since you are close, wander back and ask to compare to their demo lens and see what happens. Easy peace of mind, unless of course, you cannot be trusted to walk out of the "toy store" w/o new toys...hehehehehe...

No, I'm used to walking in and out of B&H w/o spending large sums.;)

Here's a nice tutorial on WA photography that I'm finding quite informative:

http://www.prime-junta.net/pont/How_to/m_Mastering_Wide-Angle/m_Mastering_Wide-Angle.html

[lr0868]

I used mine alot this weekend..love it!!

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y165/sfbullygirl/img_24372_92_832.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y165/sfbullygirl/img_25122_02_122.jpg

[skanter]

no matter what...since you are close, wander back and ask to compare to their demo lens and see what happens. Easy peace of mind, unless of course, you cannot be trusted to walk out of the "toy store" w/o new toys...hehehehehe...

Brought Sigma back, compared to their demo copy. Its AF seemed to be a bit more accurate, but still was off intermittently. B&H rep apologized, said I got two lemons.

Took home a Canon 10-22mm and did some comparison tests, open, f8 and f11 at 10mm and 20mm. Canon's AF meter was always exact, AF is much faster and quieter. !00% crops show Canon sharper, especially in corners (although this might have to do with Sigma copy's AF problem.) Canon had better contrast and color. However, seemed to be a bit inferior in build quality. It's lighter, which is an advantage.

My brother, who is paying for half of the lens in return for my help on a interior shoot of his house (for which SWA is needed), very generously said he would make up the difference between the Sigma and the Canon, so that I am basically getting the Canon for $250 plus some work.

The big difference between the two lenses, for me, is that the Canon WORKS with my, 350D, the two Sigmas did not. I can't keep trying new copies of sigmas (B&H won't let me) For the same price, it makes sense for me to go with the Canon. I guess I can't post pics here anymore...:(

[brecklundin]

hey, it's just great ya got something that works for you!! And a bummer there were two bad Sigma's in succession. I wonder though, if these thngs do run in batches and it's possible for some simple production issue to cause some batches to be consistenly flaky.

No matter now ya can have some fun!!

[skanter]

hey, it's just great ya got something that works for you!! And a bummer there were two bad Sigma's in succession. I wonder though, if these thngs do run in batches and it's possible for some simple production issue to cause some batches to be consistenly flaky.

No matter now ya can have some fun!!

...well, not quite. The deal is that I have to send him the lens (Long Island), then instruct him over the phone how to shoot interiors with it and an external flash (320EX). After he gets his shots, he sends the lens back to me.

I might not get the lens back until the end of the summer...:cry:

[1downfall]

here are 2from the ocean front @ va. beach....i am trying out photobucket so let's see if this works!!
http://gi264.photobucket.com/groups/ii175/4GU45S32T2/DPP_1569.jpg
here is one form under a Trellis type wood structure. I was on my lunch break and going to the beach dressed in pants ect. i had a few looks and even more so when i laid on my back to look up for this shot!
http://gi264.photobucket.com/groups/ii175/4GU45S32T2/DPP_1572.jpg
yay...it worked...web newb!

[brecklundin]

downfall:

those are super nice! I love how the first one looks almost too perfect. To be honest it brings to mind some sort of custom cake decorations a friend of ours does as a business. She makes some things that like just so real. I know that is a weird connection but the clean lines of the first photo really do bring it to my mind.

And too funny about laying out in the sun on your back in office attire at the beach around noon. Love that sort of dedication! :)

[1downfall]

thank you! I finally took a decent shot! woot....j/k. I do appreciate the comments though.

[brecklundin]

thank you! I finally took a decent shot! woot....j/k. I do appreciate the comments though.

hahahahahaa....amen brother...I KNOW the feeling all too well. I am just getting back into the SLR end of things after being away for a good 30-yr break and have just used a Sony DSC-S70 over the past 8-9yrs. But I refuse to do it any way but manual and to re-learn all my f/stops & expousre rules. But that good photo stands out so much when you finally get one. Like I wrote I really like that first one, it's just so clean and crisp. The other does not "blow my skirt up", still the sky came out fantastic to my eyes.

[syntrix]

Here's a cropped version:

http://www.swankmonkey.com/a5/zj1_800.jpg

And a 1280 full sized of a similar pic:
http://www.swankmonkey.com/a5/zj2_1280.jpg

[Nordly]

Together with my old 20D, I loved this lens!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3008/2287288456_0cbbb30b6b.jpg?v=0

Ice Hotel, Jukkasjärvi
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2267/2326507618_569e85f74e.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2307/2281583326_532d15a8cf.jpg?v=0

[brecklundin]

nordy,

Amazing!! Gives us all something to strive for...just wonderful examples from this fun lens!!

[Yel00tlr]

Here are a couple random pictures from my weekend in NH.


http://photokurt.com/images/20080713220421_covered_bridge.jpg

http://photokurt.com/images/20080713220554_squam.jpg

[_aravena]

Some 10-20 shots from a field trip awhile back

http://www.lastshotphotography.com/img/v3/p540938324-4.jpg

http://www.lastshotphotography.com/img/v3/p827818647-4.jpg

http://www.lastshotphotography.com/img/v2/p736170851-4.jpg

[TooManyShots]

Maybe not??

http://photo.net/canon-eos-digital-camera-forum/00PtTv

I'm beginning to think my new copy is defective as well!

The AF distance indicator is rarely correct. When I AF on a distant object, it says 3 feet. Often the distance indicated is incorrect. Am I missing something, or is this another defective HSM???

[Bioshock]

And another one

title="Mountain Sky by KM Photography.., on Flickr">http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3099/2675784463_0a0363e0c3_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinmiller/2675784463/)

[brecklundin]

neat Bioshock...kinda surreal...that looks like it was a fairly long exposure. About how long? I love the way the village lights illuminate the sheer rock wall on the right...and is that a waterfall in there too?

Actually all of the shots shown on this page are super looking to me...it really is such a fun lens. I have to be in Santa Barbara all day on Friday and am hoping to get some time to take pics...

[sebr]

Bioshock, Amazing shot! I guess it is HDR. Could you give us more details...

[thievery]

Playa de Coco, Costa Rica:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3011/2671860697_29b70bc757_b.jpg

[ChromeThunder]

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r24/ChromeThunder02/Mt%20Olivet%20Cemetary/IMG_9412sepia.jpg

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r24/ChromeThunder02/Mt%20Olivet%20Cemetary/IMG_9416sepia.jpg

[Bioshock]

Bioshock, Amazing shot! I guess it is HDR. Could you give us more details...

Thanks for the complements. This one actually isn't HDR. This is an shutter speed of 34 sec at ISO 1600. I did use Lightroom 2.0 to darken the town lights exposure a little so that kinda makes it look like an HDR.

To see full meta data you can go here. http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinmiller/2675784463/meta/

It was taken from my hotel room in Lauterbrunnen Switzerland. Gotta love waking up to this view.

I do have some HDR pics of the area as well so maybe I'll post some of those. :-D

Kevin

[skanter]

Maybe not??

http://photo.net/canon-eos-digital-camera-forum/00PtTv

The Sigma was not just having problems with infinity; when i focused 10 feet away, it would read 1 foot. When I focused on a far-away subject, it would read under 3 feet. I returned it, got a Canon 10-22, it reads accurately what I focus on and I don't have to worry if I'm getting inaccurate AF.

[Alexei TND]

http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs32/f/2008/199/0/d/Luminance_by_TND_Photography.jpg


Model: Canon EOS 40D
Shutter Speed: 1/16 second
F Number: F/5.6
Focal Length: 20 mm
ISO Speed: 100

[ChromeThunder]

^ very nice shot...where was this taken?

[Alexei TND]

hotel room in italy ;D

[Busto]

I think this shot is pretty sharp, coming from this lens. No PP, just converted from cr2 to jpg in Adobe Camera Raw. (The lens hood almost touched the dog's nose.)

Rebel XT, 10 mm, f/4, ISO 400, 1/250 sec., handheld, no flash.

http://i38.tinypic.com/vp7p8g.jpg

100% crop.

http://i36.tinypic.com/140el8j.jpg

[TooManyShots]

Let me add few of my collections:


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3171/2674877459_f5c71daa22_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vracing/2674877459/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3203/2675696428_ccdde725b8_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vracing/2675696428/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3097/2674876903_d5033f16e0_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vracing/2674876903/)

[korie83]

I posted this in the landscapes forum as well, but I figured I'd post it here also since its my best shot since getting this lens, which is awesome btw!

This is at 20mm f/11 20sec ISO-100, cropped slightly, and minimal PP.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3130/2692985339_803bc7e717_o.jpg

[Adamora]

i suggest you make it smaller before anyone steals it and puts it up as a wall paper in a paid site.

[korie83]

i suggest you make it smaller before anyone steals it and puts it up as a wall paper in a paid site.

Great point, downsized it a bit and added a quick signature

[VDMTom]

http://vdmphoto.smugmug.com/photos/337059073_U7yVG-L.jpg

[Savphoto]

Canon 10D
f/16
ISO-400
1/125th

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3158/2637680003_3ea78caa89_o.jpg

And another one. This one I took before I knew what I was really doing with photography...
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3170/2586555968_082d8037c8_o.jpg

[Alexei TND]

http://fc06.deviantart.com/fs31/f/2008/204/7/3/Pier_by_TND_Photography.jpg

[noodle_snacks]

First couple from my garden:

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/8929/img988678mw1.jpg

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/5461/img9899900901bd9.jpg

[ragtop88]

Wow, thats quite a garden. Fabulous pictures!!

[moedizzle]

I just finished going through all 87 pages, and came to the conclusion this lense would be my next lense. As a matter of fact I just finalized my order :)

[ragtop88]

Here's one from a recent trip.....still trying to get used to working with this lens (and my camera for that matter) so I know the exposure is slightly off but I couldn't get the rocks under the water visible enough without sacfrificing a little on the top side.....:(
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3063/2669462347_ca5e32125d_b.jpg

[HankScorpio]

I couldn't get the rocks under the water visible enough without sacfrificing a little on the top side.....:(A graduated neutral density filter is the tool for that job.

[moedizzle]

You might like to try purchasing a circular polarizer filter, as it will cut down on the glare of the water and expose the rocks beneath the water a little more if used correctly.

[thievery]

A few from Playa Garza, Costa Rica:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3195/2695870607_a3a1f5be7b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3249/2695870491_394745274b.jpg

[Busto]

Very cool, thievery! I especially like the first one.

[tommy52]

very beautiful photos, i also own a copy of the 10-20 but it has very heavy vignetting.
and i also dont think its as sharp as the photos seen here... do you think there could be something wrong with my copy? or maybe i am just not focusing properly?

[thievery]

very beautiful photos, i also own a copy of the 10-20 but it has very heavy vignetting.
and i also dont think its as sharp as the photos seen here... do you think there could be something wrong with my copy? or maybe i am just not focusing properly?

let's see an example and we'll be better suited to address your concern

[dinanm3atl]

Good shots in here.

[ChromeThunder]

Just a smidge of saturation added...

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r24/ChromeThunder02/Photography/IMG_9737format.jpg

[binliner]

Just bought one of these, thanks largely to this thread... here's one of mine...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3171/2699592132_bd76a4a331.jpg

[_aravena]

The 10-20 is soon to be no more so I'll have to splurge with it and post some photos up.

Just a few fun shots for now.

http://www.lastshotphotography.com/img/v2/p281184182-4.jpg

http://www.lastshotphotography.com/img/v3/p461023935-4.jpg

http://www.lastshotphotography.com/img/v3/p442715113-4.jpg

[TooManyShots]

My trip to an abandoned hanger, sort out.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3009/2698998547_fbfdc5bc5a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vracing/2698998547/)

I believe this is the only way in. Yeah, I would go in there...:)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3041/2699814854_9379c19944_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vracing/2699814854/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3051/2699815160_d6b3e3ac40_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vracing/2699815160/)

A prototype engine. :)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3277/2698998887_6904eb11bf_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vracing/2698998887/)

Someone parked their boat here...
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3122/2699814442_893aa039f9_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vracing/2699814442/)

[pr0digal]

I am totally in love with this lens! Here are a few from me:

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/6186/img8734pa7.jpg

The good old Kimballs Walkway
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/9248/img9412dn0.jpg

The mini-golf falls!
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/9976/img9422eg1.jpg

I will play my game beneath the spin light
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/5791/img9491ww3.jpg

He glows (maybe I overdid the processing :/)
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/6374/img9525lv6.jpg

Chili's Parking Lot
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/1466/img9551wy5.jpg

Attempting to capture lightning
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/4192/img9569gz9.jpg

Good friends stick together
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/3954/img9572uw5.jpg

[tommy52]

prodigal- awesome photos man... 1 question, whered you learn your pp?

[pr0digal]

prodigal- awesome photos man... 1 question, whered you learn your pp?

Thanks!
I am mainly self taught when it comes to PP and I am sure as you can tell from some of my photos I go from a dark style to a stark style. I am influenced by what I see here and in various places around the web and from my cousin (www.distortedperspective.com). I do all my PP in Lightroom, which I find to be an amazing program. I download and apply presets, but I don't stop there. I tweak the settings to fit the image in my mind. For me, its trial and error when editing my images. I am glad you like the result!
-pr0digal

[tommy52]

Thanks!
I am mainly self taught when it comes to PP and I am sure as you can tell from some of my photos I go from a dark style to a stark style. I am influenced by what I see here and in various places around the web and from my cousin (www.distortedperspective.com (http://www.distortedperspective.com)). I do all my PP in Lightroom, which I find to be an amazing program. I download and apply presets, but I don't stop there. I tweak the settings to fit the image in my mind. For me, its trial and error when editing my images. I am glad you like the result!
-pr0digal
lightroom?.. so no ps cs?
crap.. i dont got lightroom.. guess need to go find it :rolleyes:
your type of style in pp i found the most attracticting to my eyes.. how does the end product look when print them?

[pr0digal]

lightroom?.. so no ps cs?
crap.. i dont got lightroom.. guess need to go find it :rolleyes:
your type of style in pp i found the most attracticting to my eyes.. how does the end product look when print them?

Everything you see there (aside from the watermark) was done in LR. Its been a while since I have printed a photo (my printer is in storage at the moment), but from past experience it looks pretty good. I will have to do another print test just to double check. With the student discount, lightroom is pretty cheap!

[roentarre]

Seriously, Ethan. You are a very talented photographer!

[LowriderS10]

I tried the Sigma back-to-back with the Canon 10-22 at a shop and wow...love the Sigma...it was a tiny bit wider and much sharper...I'm ordering one as soon as my tax return's here ;)

[pr0digal]

I shall play again (and thank you all for the comments), a nice HDR render from a horse show a friend and I shot recently.

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/8920/img04872and10moretonemady4.jpg

[AndreyD]

This is my contribution with that great lens!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3261/2661751288_e21cbc25d2.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3270/2627201143_a98ac0d977.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3091/2573315954_89a592fb02.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2135/2520288395_c9ca4a6960.jpg

[theague]

Just bought this lens this morning. Those of you that own this lens, what CPL are you using? Any success in using the normal (non-slim) ones and not having vignetting at 10mm?

[_aravena]

No vignetting for me. Great lens, I'm still debating on selling it. Just got the 10-17 in today! Whole different kinda wide!

http://a262.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/123/l_c9e8147ce6b1d098cadd1feb2dcb8b3d.jpg

[AV6Scott]

I use a Hoya circular polarizer. It's the one with the purple paper in the case. I don't have any vignetting problems with it or the UV filter on.

[theague]

No vignetting for me. Great lens, I'm still debating on selling it. Just got the 10-17 in today! Whole different kinda wide!

What's the 10-17?

EDIT: Nevermind, Tokina fisheye. ;)

[theague]

_aravena, just saw the image for the first time. Not sure if you added it or if that was there the whole time and wasn't loading.

Is that with the siggy or the tokina? What CPL do you use, specifically? Extra credit for a link. ;)

[_aravena]

Oh that's the Tok. I don't typically use a CPL but the one I have is from a guy on ebay, under treasuresale. Great prices and nice glass actually. Very cheap but the UV I have is just as good as my Hoya on my 70-200.

[ragtop88]

This is my contribution with that great lens!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3261/2661751288_e21cbc25d2.jpg



Ahh, what a cool subject!! I like this one. The trusty mosin nagant!! Any close up shots on these ones? (i know not for the 10-20 thread!!)

[jcladigital]

Love this lens so much! At first I was not so impressed......but if you use it for what it is, it is an awesome lens.

[jcladigital]

Here is one more shot with the great siggy 10-20mm....a car was leaving.....nice light trails.

[Matt Peters]

Couple of my more recent shots with this lense!

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg8/matt-peters/_-15Medium.jpg

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg8/matt-peters/_-17copyMedium.jpg

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg8/matt-peters/Untitled-1Medium.jpg

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg8/matt-peters/_-15Medium.jpg

[CTM]

I love this lens. It gives alot of versatility to candid shots!

http://www.tmtytj.com/images/park/resizeIMG_3494.jpg

[AV6Scott]

I got my Cokin P-series filter holder and a 2 stop hard edge, and 3 stop soft edge graduated ND filters earlier in the week. Went to try them out and love the results from them. Still learning exactly how to use them though. I guess I'm supposed to meter without the filter, then put the filter in and take the picture, but I'm not sure. Here's a couple results from it though.

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/8830/60469708gu0.jpg

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/893/62934754zs8.jpg

http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/5892/21oy0.jpg

[royv]

I just love this lens and its focal range. The 10mm is a must-have, this lens is therefore atleast 60-70% of the time on my camera, I love it.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3290/2720876602_3733b882b1.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7369492@N04/2720876602/in/photostream/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3132/2720051085_16a3071f30.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7369492@N04/2720051085/in/photostream/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3250/2719295883_b20c416c96.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7369492@N04/2719295883/in/photostream/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3126/2719289369_fb56861da9.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7369492@N04/2719289369/in/photostream/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3003/2720118908_a52dc86814.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7369492@N04/2720118908/in/photostream/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3028/2719291963_d216154f2b.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7369492@N04/2719291963/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3239/2719285367_b07b297488.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7369492@N04/2719285367/in/photostream/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3121/2720106310_1ab8646682.jpg?v=0 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7369492@N04/2720106310/in/photostream/)

[royv]

One more:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3108/2719321107_32ed34d2cd_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7369492@N04/2719321107/sizes/l/)

[BobbyT]

Some from the abandoned Mansfield Reformatory
http://images40.fotki.com/v1248/photos/9/949682/6519050/Mansfield0847-vi.jpg

http://images41.fotki.com/v1253/photos/9/949682/6519050/Mansfield0854-vi.jpg

http://images41.fotki.com/v1264/photos/9/949682/6519050/Mansfield0864-vi.jpg

http://images37.fotki.com/v1258/photos/9/949682/6519050/Mansfield0866-vi.jpg

http://images40.fotki.com/v1261/photos/9/949682/6519050/Mansfield0870-vi.jpg

[BobbyT]

http://images40.fotki.com/v1250/photos/9/949682/6519050/Mansfield0865-vi.jpg

http://images40.fotki.com/v1241/photos/9/949682/6519050/Mansfield0876-vi.jpg

http://images37.fotki.com/v1200/photos/9/949682/6519050/Mansfield0885-vi.jpg

http://images41.fotki.com/v1267/photos/9/949682/6519050/Mansfield0890-vi.jpg

http://images41.fotki.com/v1243/photos/9/949682/6519050/Mansfield0895-vi.jpg

[TooManyShots]

Going Down
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3187/2721352440_3347a4538f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vracing/2721352440/)

Pano
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3127/2720528971_407486e862_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vracing/2720528971/)

Bring Down the Oxygen
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3037/2720528533_f00de36e1b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vracing/2720528533/)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3226/2721420974_b51b0d8ff4_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vracing/2721420974/)

[BobbyT]

http://images40.fotki.com/v1261/photos/9/949682/6519050/Mansfield0893-vi.jpg

http://images37.fotki.com/v1258/photos/9/949682/6519050/Mansfield0883-vi.jpg

http://images40.fotki.com/v1260/photos/9/949682/6519050/Mansfield08108-vi.jpg

http://images41.fotki.com/v1247/photos/9/949682/6519050/Mansfield08120-vi.jpg

http://images41.fotki.com/v1243/photos/9/949682/6519050/Mansfield08141-vi.jpg

[TooManyShots]

Very freaky. :) Nice shots.

[BobbyT]

Thanks. It was a very cool old building to check out.

Love the shot of the oxygen tanks in the rusty cage.

[Busto]

http://images41.fotki.com/v1243/photos/9/949682/6519050/Mansfield08141-vi.jpg

What a great image! Is that a row of pews, like those you see in a church?

[BobbyT]

Yes that is correct sir. This was in the prison chapel, or what remains of it. I had a friend help me light paint the area with 2 LED flashlights to get the blueish hue. And the light in the window is from the outdoor lights.

[Busto]

How nice of you to share how you went about taking the photo. Thanks! I think you should print that photo.

[BobbyT]

Oh no problem. I had to have help with the light painting. There was only so far I could move with the shutter release cable in hand.

I will be ordering a large print of it for the winter. The colors will be nice to see when everything is gray outside.

[ChromeThunder]

01
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r24/ChromeThunder02/Photography/IMG_9749format.jpg

02
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r24/ChromeThunder02/Photography/IMG_9730format.jpg

03
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r24/ChromeThunder02/Photography/IMG_9708format.jpg

[BobbyT]

Love #1

[ChromeThunder]

thanks...your shots above are impressive as well

[Bioshock]

Few more from me. :-D

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3251/2718363987_50367e7182.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinmiller/2718363987/)




http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3235/2718357709_64febd6851.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/kevinmiller/2718357709/)

[VincentPeete]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/Slammed96GT/Downtown/DSC_1474.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/Slammed96GT/Downtown/DSC_1486.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/Slammed96GT/Downtown/DSC_1487.jpg

1st post :D

[_aravena]

The last shots with my 10-20 before I sold her :(

http://www.lastshotphotography.com/img/v1/p888303308-4.jpg

http://www.lastshotphotography.com/img/v1/p603939936-4.jpg

and some shots from a wedding but I'm not completely done with those. :D

[moedizzle]

Pics I took at the Nisei Car show. I love this lens

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3160/2772202023_dc40d0ae53.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3030/2773049790_a5f8de16e2.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3232/2772202199_a64660a18a.jpg

[Ol' Jalopy]

:)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3264/2782998588_63b5bf9e64_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3134/2782288487_44e40a35f5_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3055/2782998184_ba244d1840_o.jpg

[DStanic]

Well I got my lens a little over a week ago, I LOVE IT!! Most fun I've had with photography in a while. The colors are amazing!


This one is JPG shot with "landscape" picture styles. (I know it's not level):oops:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3022/2780553636_66d676357e_b.jpg


This is my first HDR attempt using photomatix. My monitor isn't calibrated so I don't know how good it looks.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3114/2774536482_e02be9aa57_b.jpg





Question: Does this thing need SLIM filters? I'm looking to buy a C-PL and would rather get a cheap one if vingetting is not an issue.

[HankScorpio]

Question: Does this thing need SLIM filters? I'm looking to buy a C-PL and would rather get a cheap one if vingetting is not an issue.
Yes it does need a slim frame at 10mm and it's never a good idea to buy cheap filters anyway as you may as well smear grease on your lens.

[Adamora]

Yes it does need a slim frame at 10mm and it's never a good idea to buy cheap filters anyway as you may as well smear grease on your lens.

You mean Grease is bad for it :O?

[dpar]

I`m in love with it

[thievery]

Manuel Antonio, Costa Rica:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3276/2803563746_6725f88495.jpg