View Full Version : How anoying the the WP-DC 700!
MeGotsACanon
31st of July 2003 (Thu), 11:35
I've planned to use it on a boat and on skii's getting pulled behind the boat. However i was after continious shooting on my A70. To do this u need to turn the LCD off and use the viewfinder, but SOMEONE decided to cover it up for some stupid reason.
Is there any way to take it off without voiding the warrenty or make the thing leak?
FLL Diver
2nd of August 2003 (Sat), 21:41
MeGotsACanon wrote:
I've planned to use it on a boat and on skii's getting pulled behind the boat. However i was after continious shooting on my A70. To do this u need to turn the LCD off and use the viewfinder, but SOMEONE decided to cover it up for some stupid reason.
Why do you think you need to turn off the LCD and use the viewfinder?
I just used the continuous shooting mode this weekend, and I didn't have to shut off the LCD - I used it to frame the shots.
KevinG
2nd of August 2003 (Sat), 23:40
Ditto. I use continuous mode all of the time and I don't ever turn off the viewfinder. I'm curious where you got this idea.
Kevin
KevinG
2nd of August 2003 (Sat), 23:41
err, I mean I don't ever turn off the LCD, of course, not the viewfinder.
Pewterpez
3rd of August 2003 (Sun), 02:07
pg 87
http://www.powershot.com/powershot2/customer/pdf/A60A70_CUGe.pdf
But honestly, how well do you think you could frame a shot with your viewfinder while on waterskis?? ( ;) ) So I'd just aim in the general direction of whatever you want to take a shot of, take a lot of continuous shots, and bring a big card, so you'll be able to fill up as much as possible without fear of running out of space!
Just hope SOME of them turn out :)
MeGotsACanon
3rd of August 2003 (Sun), 08:36
http://www24.brinkster.com/unexplainedways/wcase.jpg
Red=Full view through viewfinder
Black=What gets blocked by the flash thing
Yellow=All you able to see thorugh it
The 2 arrows are to screws in which i'm thinking of taking off, but dont know if it will void the warrenty or make the case leak.
> Why do you think you need to turn off the LCD and use the viewfinder?
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> I'm curious where you got this idea.
The camera will shoot continuously at the speed of
approx. 2.2 images per second* (PowerShot A70) or
approx. 2.6 images per second* (PowerShot A60) (When
the LCD monitor is OFF in Large/Fine mode).
Quote from Pewterpez (http://www.powershot.com/powershot2/customer/pdf/A60A70_CUGe.pdf) page 87
AS long as i'm not going over bumpy waves i should be able to hold steady. Will find out, and if im not on skii's i'll be on a tube being towed behind the boat.
I know that it still does continious shooting with the LCD on, but i think it's because the power (or processor time?) used to light up the LCD can be transfered into taking that photo just that bit quicker and sending it to the card just that bit quicker.
I'm trying to get as many shots as quick as possible so i can blown up a series of shots and then put them all together, side by side on a big wide photo frame.
I was speaking to a guy from canon about getting the best fps on continious, and he agreed withhe LCD, but not the compact flash speed(different story)
FLL Diver
3rd of August 2003 (Sun), 12:12
I guess it pays to RTFM. :) As I had noted though, using continuous mode does not mean you HAVE to turn off the LCD.
If you're going to go to the extreme of removing the diffuser panel, you might as well remove the whole diffuser box. It's only held in place by two screws. One is over the lens port just to the right and in front of the shutter button. The other is to the right of the lens port. Neither screw penetrates the case, so you shouldn't have a problem.
Once you remove it, you will still have intrusion into the viewfinder's field by one of the anchor points for the diffuser box, and by the top of the lens port.
For the purpose you describe, you don't need the diffuser in place. It's only needed underwater where it helps combat backscatter. FWIW, the WP-DC300 doesn't have a diffuser on it.
PS - if you're using the housing in salt water, be sure to give it a good soaking in warm water after use to remove any salt crystals that may have dried on it.
Marc
Spirit
3rd of August 2003 (Sun), 12:19
MeGotsACanon wrote:
> I'm curious where you got this idea.
The camera will shoot continuously at the speed of
approx. 2.2 images per second* (PowerShot A70) or
approx. 2.6 images per second* (PowerShot A60) (When
the LCD monitor is OFF in Large/Fine mode).
Quote from Pewterpez (http://www.powershot.com/powershot2/customer/pdf/A60A70_CUGe.pdf) page 87
I shoot continuous mode all the time with my A70. It shoots faster when the LCD is off. It doesn't have to be off to shoot.
MeGotsACanon
4th of August 2003 (Mon), 02:20
fll diver: Yes it will be very salty water. Do i just soak the outside of the case or open it up and put the whole thing in underneath.
As for taking the screws out, i'll do it after ringing canon and seeing what they think of it and the warrenty.
stduc
4th of August 2003 (Mon), 03:39
MeGotsACanon wrote:
I've planned to use it on a boat and on skii's getting pulled behind the boat. However i was after continious shooting on my A70. To do this u need to turn the LCD off and use the viewfinder, but SOMEONE decided to cover it up for some stupid reason.
Is there any way to take it off without voiding the warrenty or make the thing leak?
Why not just turn review off (menu > review > off). I'm sure it's the review that slows down continuous shooting. I don't thing that using the LCD display to see what you're taking has any effect on continuous shooting. Underwater, you're normally going to have a mask on, so I think it's quite reasonable not to be able to use the viewfinder when using the underwater case!
MeGotsACanon
4th of August 2003 (Mon), 07:08
Just had a thought!
I'll take continious photos of my stop watch with the LCD on and off, and see if they differ at all. Its the most accurate way i can think of to see how fast the shots are being taken.
FLL Diver
4th of August 2003 (Mon), 23:07
MeGotsACanon wrote:
fll diver: Yes it will be very salty water. Do i just soak the outside of the case or open it up and put the whole thing in underneath.
Just soak the outside of the camera. There's a warning in the manual against getting the inside of the housing wet. I'm not sure why. It's just polycarbonate as is the outside - maybe the some of the small metal bits inside are subject to corrosion?
I find it's best to leave the camera inside the case in order to help it sink so the whole case stays underwater. I also have a 4 inch snap bolt attached to the case, and the combined weight makes the case neutrally bouyant.
MeGotsACanon
5th of August 2003 (Tue), 03:59
If you just have a camera in it, and u put it in water does it float?
If it doesn't i'll be in strife if i drop it off the boat, will have to swim down about 10 mtrs to find it.
Ive seen 2 in water, i sank, it was a waterproof camera, didn't need a case. And the other was the same deal as the WP-DC700, and that floated, was a case.
FLL Diver
5th of August 2003 (Tue), 07:50
MeGotsACanon wrote:
If you just have a camera in it, and u put it in water does it float?
If it doesn't i'll be in strife if i drop it off the boat, will have to swim down about 10 mtrs to find it.
Ive seen 2 in water, i sank, it was a waterproof camera, didn't need a case. And the other was the same deal as the WP-DC700, and that floated, was a case.
Different strokes for different uses. :) Yes - it does float with just the camera in the case. I use the extra weight so that it doesn't float when I'm diving - I pretty much got it neutrally buoyant.
If it floated while I was down 60 feet or more, I'd lose it forever as I couldn't go and chase it as it floated up - that's why I use the extra weight of the bolt snap, as well as using it to attach it to myself.
Same as if it didn't float for you and you dropped it from the surface and it sank 60 feet.
MeGotsACanon
5th of August 2003 (Tue), 08:30
Glad to know it floats, but also if it did sink, and u droped/let go it from 60 feet, and went to 200 feet, u could have a bit of trouble chasing/finding it.
I haven't been able to have a go with ,mine, its been on order for about 5 months mabey, lost count.
Ive been reading up on how to care for it, and it says u have to remove the ring and put this lube stuff on it. How necessary is it? I mean mine might go in the water, but would get picked up again, not like im going under for an hour.
stopbath
5th of August 2003 (Tue), 11:35
Without maintenance, the seal may only keep out splashes of water, and sand.
Once the camera case is submerged, the water pressure builds up quickly, and the seal could easily leak water. This leakage could render your camera worthless.
If you are only using the case to allow you to take pictures in the snow, at the beach, or in the rain (which would normally be extremely hazardous to the A70) then don't worry too much about removing the seal and lubing it - just make sure no grit is in the seal area. If you 'may' take the camera below the surface of the water (even holding it under to take a picture underwater at the shore) then do the entire lub stuff. As water pressure builds up, the seal maintanance becomes more important.
The case is only as good as the seal. Keep the seal in top shape, and your A70 should survive the dive.
I have seen plenty of underwater gear destroyed that could easily have survived had the seal been clean, or the door properly closed!
MeGotsACanon
5th of August 2003 (Tue), 23:48
My use will be for on a boat, and ocassionally riding behind the boat, dont want to drop it in, but if it does then im protected.
So the seal wont need to be procted being in the boat, but will be for if i take a fall.
Seems like a gamble to me, how much are the replacment tubes? How many days can u get out of one?
stduc
6th of August 2003 (Wed), 03:25
MeGotsACanon wrote:
Just had a thought!
I'll take continious photos of my stop watch with the LCD on and off, and see if they differ at all. Its the most accurate way i can think of to see how fast the shots are being taken.
And your conclusion?
MeGotsACanon
7th of August 2003 (Thu), 10:35
Conclusion (http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=14968)
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