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jseaman
13th of March 2006 (Mon), 16:33
Over the years I've used many different digital cameras and the early ones were all compacts. All of these use the "Inbuilt" lens category. Under Gear Notes what I get are lots of example photos that are actually from different cameras all thrown together under one lens. This same problem could erupt with a 10D, 20D and a 1 series all sharing the same lens. Even if they exercise safe lens sharing things still don't work right. 1.6 1.3 or full size sensors? Very different appearance of images using the same lens on different cameras.

Is there a solution that I'm missing?

I've got a good bit of stuff uploaded to a totally new site but still a lot to do: http://www.jseaman.com/ee/

Pekka
13th of March 2006 (Mon), 17:07
I don't fully understand what the actual problem is. When you put a 50mm to 10D, 1D or 5D they will produce different output. That is how it goes. In EE gear page sorts by lens or by camera, so results are grouped. Photo listing page lets you search and sort separately.

[broken record]In EE 2.0 you can easily create a virtual gallery from 1D with 70-200 and other gallery with photos taken with 30D with 70-200, if that is how you want to present your photos and equipment to public.[/broken record]

jseaman
13th of March 2006 (Mon), 19:19
I don't fully understand what the actual problem is.

I'll provide an example

A gallery consisting of 3 photos, each photo taken using a different point-and-shoot camera. Let's say they were Sony, Kodak and Nikon.

If, when viewing the gallery, you select the link "GEAR NOTES FOR THIS GALLERY" you will be presented with a page showing information about the 3 different cameras and information the "Inbuilt" lens.

Under this "Inbuilt" lens info there will be thumbnails of the photos that are used in the gallery. These are presented as examples of the len's output.

The problem is that in reality the 3 photos were taken with 3 totally different cameras/lenses. EE just lumps all "Inbuilt" lenses together.

The photographic examples should be displayed in the information about each point-and-shoot camera rather than under the lens info. (in the case of non-SLR cameras)

drews578
13th of March 2006 (Mon), 19:24
This is how I approached the same situation

Pekka
13th of March 2006 (Mon), 19:36
I'll provide an example

A gallery consisting of 3 photos, each photo taken using a different point-and-shoot camera. Let's say they were Sony, Kodak and Nikon.

If, when viewing the gallery, you select the link "GEAR NOTES FOR THIS GALLERY" you will be presented with a page showing information about the 3 different cameras and information the "Inbuilt" lens.

Under this "Inbuilt" lens info there will be thumbnails of the photos that are used in the gallery. These are presented as examples of the len's output.

The problem is that in reality the 3 photos were taken with 3 totally different cameras/lenses. EE just lumps all "Inbuilt" lenses together.

Why don''t you just add three new lenses and tag the photos to them? Like "Canon G1 lens", "Canon S1 lens"...

Lens called "inbuilt" is really a synonym for "do not display lens on photo detail info".

The photographic examples should be displayed in the information about each point-and-shoot camera rather than under the lens info. (in the case of non-SLR cameras)

They are, in EE 2.0.

drews578
13th of March 2006 (Mon), 19:38
Then i modified the info in the camera area and included the magnification factor. In order to do this find out the equivilent 35 mm range of the lens and the actual then do some math to figure out the mag factor.

drews578
13th of March 2006 (Mon), 19:39
I could not post 3 photos in one post sorry mine got split.

jseaman
13th of March 2006 (Mon), 20:07
Thanks to you both for clearing up my options!

It sounds like the situation is properly handled in 2.0 - I had considered creating new lens types for each point-and-shoot camera but was hoping there would be a better way.