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Highland
3rd of August 2003 (Sun), 22:26
Ok -
So I have finally gotten the printer (i950) to match the screen. Prints come out looking amazing. They match the screen and look fantastic. BUT...
After an hour or so the colors begin to fade.
Within about 3 hours certain pictures will pick up up a cloudy greenish hue.
It happens equally with the pro paper or glossy plus.
Anyone run into this?
Don
P.S. The secret to the initial color match for me was in setting the monitor and printer to the same ICM setting - I am using Trinitron 2.2 with great results.
Longwatcher
4th of August 2003 (Mon), 08:43
Depending on what paper you are using it will take time for the ink to set. I noticed with the Canon 13x19 paper it would start out foggy and then turn sharper. Other Canon papers do different thinks, like turn pink after a couple of months. My Epson glossy papers failed the attic test, but the matte paper is still holding its own.
I am currently using Kodak Ultima paper as my favorite paper with the Canon S9000 printer (should be same ink). It is holding up good in my personal color and fade tests, its main issue so far is don't get it wet (or at least coat it a couple of times first).
I am also getting more pleased by Ilford paper, although Kodak paper is cheaper.
Office Depot paper is also not doing well in the attic test.
[All of the tests I am doing are un-scientific, but are done as controlled as I can so I can give a fair evaluation to which ever paper I choose or recommend]
ssim
4th of August 2003 (Mon), 09:34
I haven't had this problem with my i950. It is a great printer in my opinion.
I've given up on both Canon and Epson paper. Nothing specific but just didn't seem to have the clarity of Kodak paper.
I just bought some Ilford paper this weekend but haven't had a chance to use it.
If your colors are starting to fade perhaps you have a bad batch of ink. You say that certain pictures are fading, do these all have the same general color to them, i.e. alot of greens, blues.... you know what I mean.
Highland
4th of August 2003 (Mon), 10:36
Curiously pictures with the most green and blue in them suffer the worst.
I am on my third batch of ink - all Canon too.
Does Kodak make a 4X6 paper?
D
Motorsports Photo
4th of August 2003 (Mon), 10:40
Just to add my unscientific torture test...
I have a couple of sample prints from my Epson 2000P sitting on the dashboard of my van. They have been there for almost 2 years and still look like they were printed.
It sounds like paper and drying time have played a sigificant part in what you see with the Canon printer.
-Pete
ChrisNardone
4th of August 2003 (Mon), 12:22
Interesting comments about Kodak paper. Maybe I'll have to try it with my i950. I used it with my Epson 780 and it didn't fully aborb the black ink.
CyberDyneSystems
4th of August 2003 (Mon), 14:03
Canon does make the 4X6 glossy plus paper,. but Canon papers are hard to find locally.
Highlander,. what you describe in the first post seems really odd compared to what I have seen.
To my eyes the prints don't look there best untill they have dried for a few hours. For me the colors look artificial and over saturated.. and a little hazy (blended?) when they first come out of the printer. In an hour or so things are much improved.
Sort of the opposite of what you are describing?
justme_dc
4th of August 2003 (Mon), 14:25
I usually let my i950 prints "set up" for at least 24 hours before I judge them. That gives them time to dry and breathe a little bit. Mine often look less than stellar right out of the printer but a day later they are usually great.
As for a good supplier for the canon paper these guys http://www.canogacamera.com
are great with pricing and shipping I get all my paper/ink thru them.
Good luck to you.
jd_D60
4th of August 2003 (Mon), 15:52
how long do you find the prints last before showing some signs of fading (both behind glass and not)
thanks
John (who just about to receive a free i950 for some pictures in "What Digital Camera" this month)
Highland
4th of August 2003 (Mon), 16:34
fading in about an hour.
I wish they improved with age.
Don
boBquincy
4th of August 2003 (Mon), 20:36
Hmm, what am I doing wrong?
I used to use Kodak Ultima with my HP 1220 but when I bought a Canon S9000 I could not get Ultima to work well at all, not with default settings, not with Kodak's recommended settings. The ink either smears and pools up, or when I reduce the amount it just looks 'flat'.
I have had good results with Office Depot Photo Paper (my low-end paper) and great results with Ilford Classic Pearl (for framed prints) and Ilford Smooth Pearl (for unframed prints).
Canon's Matte Photo Paper is really good for greeting cards and such.
I have not seen much of a fading problem with any of these papers although I have read the OD paper is prety bad for fading. I don't leave many of my prints in a sunny place for long but a couple of them on the wall (in frames, behind glass or plastic) do not seem to be fading when compared to prints made the same time (about a year ago).
boB
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