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cinci-photo
18th of March 2006 (Sat), 22:58
Here are a few pics from my 2nd real wedding. They wanted more traditional shots. Please let me konw what you think.
http://static.flickr.com/40/112712031_029954bef8_o.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/45/114435992_c920befecc_o.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/48/114435993_3c6ea553f4_o.jpg
Sledhed
18th of March 2006 (Sat), 23:43
Hey Jamey - Nice job but a couple of small things. The insets in the collages are a little small, especially the one in the church. I didn't even see it at first. Love the candle light shot. #2 could use a little more contrast. On the photo of the little girl, desaturate those eyes, she looks like she's possessed.
cinci-photo
19th of March 2006 (Sun), 08:10
Thanks Chris. Here's the problem.... I'm using two different computers. On the computer I do my PS work on, the monitor is extremely bright and contrasty. On the computer I use to post my shots, it's much less on the quality side of things. I printed out the church collage and it prints very well with the right amount of contrast. Who knows..... it's a judgement call. Regarding the eyes of the little girl.... I love her eyes. I started to convert to BW and leave the eyes as is, but I decided I didn't want to. Thanks for the comments. BTW - Jenny didn't like the church shot either.
dsze
19th of March 2006 (Sun), 10:46
Nice work. I'm not sure about the 'floating heads' in #2 though. That kind of bothers me. And if you could clone out that bright shiny silver camera behind the little girl it would help. It distracts from her face I think. I like #1, but larger inset images would be nice. You could also play with the opacities a little, maybe?
rlhphotos
19th of March 2006 (Sun), 11:50
The flaoting heads are creepy to me..and it looks like you used a small flash on the shot which provided odd lighting..its a nice shot though.
bpuppy
19th of March 2006 (Sun), 15:00
Ditch the kit lens, get a f/2.8 zoom or 50mm f/1.4 and shoot wide open with just a kiss of flash. You have a 20D so crank the ISO.
MALI
19th of March 2006 (Sun), 20:07
Picture # 1 - Collage does not work. Big picture : Nice shot. Yet, it could use some contrast and saturation. Besides, I for some reason beleive the actual ambient light was warmer, which would look a lot better.
Picture # 2 - Heads are creepy. Big picture compositon is nice. Too much flash. Since the bride and groom were stationary, you could have gone by a faster shutter without flash, which would bring in more ambient light.
Picture #3 - Kid is cute; not the picture.
MALI
cinci-photo
19th of March 2006 (Sun), 22:29
Picture # 1 - Collage does not work. Big picture : Nice shot. Yet, it could use some contrast and saturation. Besides, I for some reason beleive the actual ambient light was warmer, which would look a lot better.
Picture # 2 - Heads are creepy. Big picture compositon is nice. Too much flash. Since the bride and groom were stationary, you could have gone by a faster shutter without flash, which would bring in more ambient light.
Picture #3 - Kid is cute; not the picture.
MALI
Wow Mali, You're of tough cookie. But, that's why I post. Everyone seems to agree, #2 doesn't work.
#1 - I couldn't shoot without a flash, the church was extremely dark. I have the kit lens (3.5) and 70-300 IS which is even slower. I think this shot was already at ISO 1600 and was underexposed. I am definitely going to have to invest in a faster lens. Two problems though.... the wife and no money.
Thanks for the comments.
kawter2
19th of March 2006 (Sun), 23:19
Here are a few pics from my 2nd real wedding. They wanted more traditional shots. Please let me konw what you think.
http://static.flickr.com/45/114435992_c920befecc_o.jpg
they are a lil cheezy for my taste
MALI
19th of March 2006 (Sun), 23:39
Wow Mali, You're of tough cookie. But, that's why I post. Everyone seems to agree, #2 doesn't work.
Well, you are taking the criticism very well.:)
#1 - I couldn't shoot without a flash, the church was extremely dark.
Since this is a shot of not moving objects, you do not need fast shutter. Did you shoot this in RAW? If so, in conversion, try to keep the same ambient light temperature at the time, which I am guessing to be warmer than what it looks like here.
I have the kit lens (3.5) and 70-300 IS which is even slower. I think this shot was already at ISO 1600 and was underexposed.
If you are shooting raw, this should not be a problem since you can fix it in conversion process.
I am definitely going to have to invest in a faster lens. Two problems though.... the wife and no money.
I understand your pain. :) Been there.
MALI
bpuppy
20th of March 2006 (Mon), 00:37
I'm not sure that wife/no money is an excuse for not having a fast lens while being paid to shoot someone's wedding. I guess if the client is happy, that's all that matters, but I think almost anyone can shoot a wedding with the flash full on and a kit lens.
If you're charging people money to shoot their wedding, perhaps you need to spend said money on equipment until you have all you need. It doesn't have to be a huge expense either ... just a 50mm f/1.8 (cheap) would let you shoot in low light AND blur the background AND make a perfect portrait lens (around 85mm on your 20D and Rebel).
BLINN
20th of March 2006 (Mon), 09:03
Jamey, I for one like the images. Note the work Images. The last one is nice just not lite up right, the shadows are too harsh. The first one I really like. the main image is great. I love how you used the ambient light. Ithe side images could be a bit larger so that you can see the detail. I get the feeling this is for an album of some kind. The second picture is a bit chezzy. I would not have put their head in it at all. Here is a different version of that imge that I did last year. Keep up the good work. Remember don't take the CC to heart, we are here to help.
cinci-photo
20th of March 2006 (Mon), 22:19
I'm not sure that wife/no money is an excuse for not having a fast lens while being paid to shoot someone's wedding. I guess if the client is happy, that's all that matters, but I think almost anyone can shoot a wedding with the flash full on and a kit lens.
If you're charging people money to shoot their wedding, perhaps you need to spend said money on equipment until you have all you need. It doesn't have to be a huge expense either ... just a 50mm f/1.8 (cheap) would let you shoot in low light AND blur the background AND make a perfect portrait lens (around 85mm on your 20D and Rebel).
Thanks once again. Bpuppy - trust me.... wife/no money is an excellent excuse. The clients in this case were very happy. The wedding was a trade off. I shot their wedding, they house sat my dog for 8 days and saved me the kennels costs while I was on vacation. For this wedding I actually bought my second 420 EX flash and ST-E2 transmitter, so I would have more even lighting on the large group shots. I will be purchasing the 50mm f/1.8 as well as the 580 EX for the next paying job.
My wife hates it when I do weddings. I always have to buy more. I tell her.... you have to spend money to make money.. She hates it..... Oh well....
BLINN
21st of March 2006 (Tue), 11:04
LOL, I too am in the same boat. spend..spend...spend.
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