How many?

[mknabster]

How many pictures has everyone taken w/ their G series or Pro 1 camera as of now? I have the G6, and i am up to 1860 pics taken on it so far, only having it about 10 months. What about the rest of you?

[Andy_T]

About 15,000 with my G2 in 2 years, and as many with the 20D in a little more than 1 year since then. All in RAW.

And I feel that I actually take far too few images :rolleyes:

Best regards,
Andy

[SuzyView]

I've taken way over 1000 on my 10D and now about 500+ on my 20D. Nice to have digital. I have no negatives to keep track of, just CD's.

[andrewaaa5]

can you explain the purpose of this poll? not sure i understand the relevance...

[magicmikey]

I've taken about 3,000 shots on my G6 since December 2004.

Michael

[kodaker]

A little over 3100 in one year on my G6, and over 600 more with my pocket camera in the same time.

[superkully]

Might be better to have that poll scale as 'photos taken/months owned'.

But it's good to know that G-cameras have taken 15K photos. That must be one tough little mechanism in there.

[Superbaldguy]

I have shot almost 12,000 files with my G6 since October 2004.

Since February 1984, when I first started photography, I have shot approximately 250,000 images mostly with Canon gear, which includes 35mm manual and autofocus film SLR's, a few PS cams, and the G6.

I think I am an experienced photographer=)

[andrewaaa5]

can you explain the purpose of this poll? not sure i understand the relevance...

please can someone explain the relevance of this poll? i have taken 10000000000000000000000000 photos. do i win a biscuit or something?

[Bryan Bedell]

My G6 says I've taken about 10,000 shots in about a year. And three or four of them were actually composed nicely and exposed properly, I deleted the rest.

I think andrew should totally get the biscuit.

B.

[dbump]

It would be interesting to see the #shots/period of time, vs. total, for comparison. Not sure what I'd do with that info, but I'd burn that bridge when I got there. Wouldn't be that hard to write a program to scavenge that data from EXIF.
I'm averaging about 200/month.

[superkully]

Ho ho, of course the snapping vs. carefully composing was going to come up here.

For me this is quite a re-assuring thread. I've always been a little concerned with how long my little G5 was going to last.

Those teeny little aperature blades and shutter always moving in and out giving you that live preview - they work so hard.

I've taken 1,300 photos since May 2004. However, most have been deleted straight away as I've played with the controls, set the intervalometer to shoot out my front window or recently started playing with stitching.

[magicmikey]

Bryan,

Where do you look on a G6 to see the actual number of photos taken? I used the number of photos in my computer to estimate my number of shots.

Michael

[Bryan Bedell]

i sort of rounded it a lot based on what i could figure out from the manual, look in the manual, it explains it way better than I can (and still not very well)

The number on the screen shows the folder number and photo number, so you can figure it out from that, roughly. If I did my math right, I've thrown out well more than half of my photos, close to 2/3s.

[Andy_T]

Those teeny little aperature blades and shutter always moving in and out giving you that live preview - they work so hard.


You're joking, right :wink: ?

Just so nobody gets confused - There is no shutter mechanism in the G series.
Otherwise, you could not get life preview or video.

Best regards,
Andy

[dbump]

Andy, are you sure about that? I think it does have a shutter--how else would the G do its long-exposure noise reduction without a shutter? My understanding is that after the initial shot, it keeps the shutter closed and reads the sensor for the same period of time as the initial exposure, and then removes anything it read in the second, 'blind' capture that also shows up in the initial one (vast simplification, I'm sure). You can hear the shutter clicking during this process, before, between, and after the two shots. It's a different sound than the aperture blades being adjusted, I think--that's a softer sound.
The shutter is open during live preview, certainly, but notice that you also hear a click when you turn preview off--I'm guessing that's the shutter closing?

[Andy_T]

You can hear the shutter clicking during this process, before, between, and after the two shots.

... not if you set the camera to 'no sound' ... at least on my G2.
I have to admit that I don't know the G6, though I highly doubt they changed it.

I tried to look it up in the spare parts diagrams that can be accessed at http://www.f20c.com/stuff/canon/partslist/, but the only assembly figured there is the 'optical unit'.

But I agree with you that the 'long exposure noise reduction' gets me thinking as well. At least it works like that on the DSLR's.

Still, I am pretty positive (99.8% sure) that the G series (and all other digicams) does not have a mechanical shutter.
It works electronical by starting/ending readout from the sensor.

Best regards,
Andy

[andrewaaa5]

... not if you set the camera to 'no sound'

It is a mechanical sound not a 'fake sample sound' of a real shutter that can be heard.

Listen carefully even with sound set to off and you will hear something making a slight noise...

I have no idea what this sound is.

Mr Canon, can you please comment?

[dbump]

The first thing I did when I got both the G2 and then later, the G6, was mute the camera entirely. The only sounds it makes now are mechanical ones, and it definitely makes a click whenever the shutter opens and again when it closes.
I wasn't able to find any information about it (in a brief search) so I was trying to think about the noises I heard when using it, and long exposures came to mind, and that's when I suddenly realized it had to block the light somehow, for the NR algorithm. Maybe they have some other clever way to do that?
On the other hand, why not implement a shutter? It's known, reliable tech they already have.

[Andy_T]

The first thing I did when I got both the G2 and then later, the G6, was mute the camera entirely. The only sounds it makes now are mechanical ones, and it definitely makes a click whenever the shutter opens and again when it closes.

your ears must be better than mine ... when I did night shots with my G 2 and had it set to 'silent', the only thing I heard was the scraping of the microdrive...


On the other hand, why not implement a shutter? It's known, reliable tech they already have.

- Cost
- another item that wears out
- Loss of live preview
- 'old school' camera technology :wink:

Best regards,
Andy

[Andy_T]

Ok, as Terrywoodenpics has pointed out in another thread (after researching it in the manual ... duh), it does indeed have a 'mechanical + electronic) shutter. Well done.

So I was wrong, you are right.
Learn something new every day.

Maybe I should get my ears inspected...

Best regards,
Andy

[magicmikey]

While I haven't researched this, I would expect that the G6 has a leaf shutter as do rangefinder 35mm cameras rather than a focal plane shutter.

[rpolitsr]

Edited to update my own post that was written offline:

As already pointed elsewhere by Terrywoodenpic, in the user’s guides for both the Pro1 and G-6 cameras you can read:

Shutter: Mechanical shutter + electronic shutter.

So there is a mechanical shutter according to Canon.

A better question may be “what is the real function of that mechanical shutter in the Pro1 or G cameras.?

I understand it will not play the same roll as the shutter curtain in a SLR or the mechanical shutter in a DSLR, but I do not know the difference.

I am searching for more information. If I found something interesting I will post here.

Regards

P.S. With the mute ON (no shutter sound in the speaker) I can hear a double mechanical ‘clic’ after pressing the shutter button all the way down inside my Pro1.

[magicmikey]

I posted some information on the other thread about shutters in the G series cameras: http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=149894

In a nutshell, apparently the shutter closes after a shot to allow the image sensor to discharge it's data in the dark. The shutter is only open if you use the LCD screen.

[marie]

i have taken 10000000000000000000000000 photos.
do i win a biscuit or something? :cool::cool::cool:

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

http://www.pbase.com/image/30353908/original.jpg

[andrewaaa5]

haha. thanks : ) and here are some ginger bread 'people' that I made for xmas... my house reeked of ginger for days.... yummy yummy... but now it is diet time!!

[marie]

haha. thanks : ) and here are some ginger bread 'people' that I made for xmas... my house reeked of ginger for days.... yummy yummy... but now it is diet time!!

yum yum
:cool:

love the smell of ginger when cooking

these look gorgeous and yummy
you done a great job
:)

[andrewaaa5]

can we have a poll regarding favourite biscuit?
the boys at Canon maybe interested in this!
...erm, from a product development point of view :)

[mknabster]

andrewaaa5, i posted this thread jsut to see what other people w/ Canon cameras have taken in photo count. It's just mere curiosity.

[andrewaaa5]

yep. no prob. it is fine, i am feeling quite sorry for sounding like an arrogant selfish ratbag : ( i have not got my G3 anymore, but on estimates from my HHD, it looks to be 20,000 jpegs stored there since 6/6/2003. Obviously, a LOT of pictures taken have been deleted... READ ON....

...erm, and excuse me for the rambling...

....SO, I also looked at the EXIF information from one of the last pictures that was taken on my G3 that was stored on my HDD. A screen grab of the Exif info. is attached. It is highlighted on the line that says 'image number' and it this is correct, it seems my G3 has taken 3727213 !! (i used Irfan View to open the picture, then pressed 'i' on the keyboard to get the 'Info' of the Picture, and then clicked the 'Exif Info*' button, and hiding near the bottom was this field for 'image number'. I checked the jpeg picture prior to this, and it was 3727212, so it seems accuarate enough...) but I cannot imagine being able to take so many pictures in such a short time, but hmm.. if it is correct, I am truly shocked! (ok, a bit more rambling now, but coincidentally, the first 3 digits (372) are the telephone dialling code for a country called Estonia, which happens to be the place I lived when I took the majority of the photos with the G3! and also the best place I have ever lived in my life...) Now that was also a suprise. I have to start getting used to all of these coincidences.....

but can some one please correct me if I am wrong regarding the 'image number' field figure as I surely have not taken three million, seven hundred and twenty seven thousand and two hundred and thirteen photos with it in approx 1050 days. That would be like 3550 photos per day (everyday!), which I cannot recall taking : ) and I do not have the manual here to check out the numbering system.

[Andy_T]

Andrew,

I'm even more intrigued by that 230-922 mm zoom on your G3 :D
So that is what you use for birding, right :wink:

Best regards,
Andy

[andrewaaa5]

Andrew,

I'm even more intrigued by that 230-922 mm zoom on your G3 :D
So that is what you use for birding, right :wink:

Best regards,
Andy

hehe. yep. i think it is the G33 from the future :)

[Doom1701e]

Zero for me, its not here yet :) :p

[dbump]

Just a quick glance at an old G2 photo (closest to your G3, just in case it mattered--but I don't think the numbering has changed, now that I think about it), and it reports:
Image Serial Number: 109-0911
That is using the old (free) Breeze Downloader, which saves the exif in a .txt, and also renames the image with the actual image #, which in this case is 911. The first three digits are the folder number. Somewhere on this board is a post detailing the folder/naming convention canon uses (and I think it's buried in the manual too). But it creates folders named 1xx, and stores around 100 pictures in each folder. The 'xx' in the folder name is sequential. So 109 will hold pictures in the 900 area. Weird, but I think it is required by the older FAT-16 format of the CF cards.
I'm guessing once you get to folder named 199, it wraps to 2xx, etc. So your 372 would roughly correspond to about 27200 pictures, which sounds reasonable--you've deleted 7000 out of 20K?
Still, a lot of pictures!