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bpuppy
20th of March 2006 (Mon), 01:41
For those that use film or once used film, I'd like your opinion ... I'm experimenting with different film stock 'looks' using the Calibrate tab in Adobe Camera RAW. And I want to see if any of you think I'm pretty close with these or not.

Sample 1

Straight-Up

http://static.flickr.com/39/113968818_a5f3589c9c.jpg

Fuji Astia

http://static.flickr.com/19/115645804_5dfedfc468.jpg

Fuji Provia

http://static.flickr.com/43/115645935_ffd82fa511.jpg

Fuji Velvia

http://static.flickr.com/54/115646036_a3dddeaa97.jpg
bpuppy
20th of March 2006 (Mon), 01:42
Sample 2

Straight-Up

http://static.flickr.com/47/113969360_44cb24acb9.jpg

Fuji Astia

http://static.flickr.com/48/115646679_602a702a4c.jpg

Fuji Provia

http://static.flickr.com/55/115646818_24e03cb655.jpg

Fuji Velvia

http://static.flickr.com/51/115646983_d38985f137.jpg
bpuppy
20th of March 2006 (Mon), 01:43
Example 3

Straight-Up

http://static.flickr.com/46/113969309_1ca4bde3c6.jpg

Fuji Astia

http://static.flickr.com/49/115646193_6b740b58f7.jpg

Fuji Provia

http://static.flickr.com/47/115646348_295ac640c0.jpg

Fuji Velvia

http://static.flickr.com/39/115646513_efa6c5c77b.jpg
tim
20th of March 2006 (Mon), 05:54
Interesting idea. I can't comment since i've never used film, but it's a good idea. I have a few camera raw presets I use for high contrast black and white photos, and to reset a photo back to defaults. I wonder if you could do a cross processing effect as an ACR preset.

Presets like this do wonders for my workflow speed.
BLINN
20th of March 2006 (Mon), 08:30
Fugi provia seem to be close.
neil_r
20th of March 2006 (Mon), 08:40
I must have spent the equivalent of a small house on Velvia in the past. Velvia really popped the greens and reds. Yours, whilst a great effort are far too yellow.

Great idea…
rlhphotos
20th of March 2006 (Mon), 09:18
Fugi provia seem to be close.


Agreed, that was the best looking film effect out of all of them..gorgeous bride by the way.
bpuppy
20th of March 2006 (Mon), 14:00
Thanks ... anyone else?
DocFrankenstein
21st of March 2006 (Tue), 21:16
I can't see the modified picutures - only the originals.
JMAS
21st of March 2006 (Tue), 21:23
I can't see the modified picutures - only the originals.

Here too...:(
lostdoggy
21st of March 2006 (Tue), 21:25
Wut Happin'
bpuppy
21st of March 2006 (Tue), 21:29
Oops ... fixed now.
JMAS
21st of March 2006 (Tue), 21:35
Oops ... fixed now.


Thanks!
I think you loose some detail with the film versions, due to some excessive contrast (see the jacket).

The photos also become a bit to much yellow IMO.


BTW, besides that, nice photos!;)
bpuppy
21st of March 2006 (Tue), 21:46
But the question is, would I have lost that detail if I had actually used that particular film? And do you mean they have a yellow cast as compared to the actual film stocks, or as per the colour-corrected 'straight-up' version?
DocFrankenstein
21st of March 2006 (Tue), 22:52
But the question is, would I have lost that detail if I had actually used that particular film? And do you mean they have a yellow cast as compared to the actual film stocks, or as per the colour-corrected 'straight-up' version?
You can't really ask if it looks like film.

The monitor vs slide vs optical print are very different things.
bpuppy
22nd of March 2006 (Wed), 06:04
I realize ... but do you not see the benefit of being able to apply film 'looks' that are pretty close to the original to whole batches of files in one fell swoop? I do, thus my attempt to get people's impressions on how close I am.

I know I can't get it perfect, but do I have the spirit of it happening?
DocFrankenstein
22nd of March 2006 (Wed), 06:45
I realize ... but do you not see the benefit of being able to apply film 'looks' that are pretty close to the original to whole batches of files in one fell swoop? I do, thus my attempt to get people's impressions on how close I am.

I know I can't get it perfect, but do I have the spirit of it happening?
My monitor isn't properly calibrated, so anything I say won't really be valid.

Another thing that I came to understood after optically printing color negatives is that they capture more information than digital. Probably about one-two stops more than my rebel. The "foot" of the film can't be imitated with digital, because you don't have the information to put in that foot.

So, at best you can emulate some super saturated film with an S curve applied to raw. Make the foot quite steep and the highlights much less.

Then just bath everything with same saturation, color temperature... etc.
bpuppy
23rd of March 2006 (Thu), 15:04
Anyone else have any suggestions for how to get these curves looking closer to their film counterparts?
DocFrankenstein
23rd of March 2006 (Thu), 19:31
Try to run another picture on it. The one you have has lots of lightlight information.

Try one with dark tones... or a more neutral picture maybe...
lostdoggy
23rd of March 2006 (Thu), 22:00
I pickup the formula for emulating Velvia from a mag. and it have nothing to do with curves as I recall. It uses the channel mixer and it boosts the channel color's color by 140% and reducing the other colors by -20%

Here is how it would look w/ the Mag's version of Velvia Emulation:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b381/lostdoggy/POTN%20uploads/113969309_1ca4bde3c6PS.jpg