The York Debout

[Dorman]

Here's a few shots I took at an old military site, they shots are rather unrelated, but all from the same location. I was tinkering with some new-to-me tools in PS, any feedback would be great. Thanks for looking!

[Dorman]

Two more...

[Dorman]

and the last two...

[Dorman]

Just a bump before this fades into oblivion...

Any feedback out there?

[Skip Souza]

Nice work. I love historical military instillations. Number three is cool.

[dpurslow]

I agree, number 3 is great

[Dimitri_V]

I agree, number 3 is great


Yes,i will go for that too,actually #3 is pretty impressive.

And one more thing...from the moderators.

Take the time to read it.


I've gotten a few PMs and seen a few comments about bumping, so I just wanted to clarify a few things, and add a few thoughts....


Thanking people is definitely NOT bumping. Bumping is when you respond to your own post with no good reason other than to get your post back to the top of the forum. That is, officially, bumping.

As an example, perhaps someone posted an image and nobody responded for a day, which places the image down on Page 2 somewhere. The original poster comes along, finds their shot ignored on page 2, and replies to their own thread saying something like "Anyone?" or "Nobody likes this?" or something relatively useless like that.

THAT is bumping, since it really serves no purpose other than getting the shot back up on Page 1.


Thanking someone is a legitimate reason to respond to your own post, since you are actually responding to someone's comment about your photo. It serves a good purpose, is a nice thing to do, and is highly encouraged since such appreciation makes the forum a better, happier place.


Please thank people, but do it with a little courtesy to the forum. As has been discussed, thanking every person in a separate post is often seen as simply annoying. It's not against the rules, but it clutters the forum. Thank a bunch of people at once, and it keeps things much neater. Even a "blanket" statement like "Thanks for all the comments!" works wonders for keeping the forum a neat, and considerate place.

I have a habit of such "blanket" statements, followed by pointed replies to particular statements or questions. So I might make a single post, thanking everyone in general and then specifically answering Tom's question, paying particular attention to Harry's insightful remark about the composition, and identifying the bird for Debbie. All in one post.


You don't have to thank everyone who replied to one of your shots - and please don't feel ignored if someone doesn't specifically thank you if you comment on a shot. A better way to thank someone would be to find one of their shots and post a reply to it. This works both ways - if you make a habit of replying to people's images then they'll start making a habit of replying to yours. Not only is this a great ego boost ( :) ) but it makes for a real give-take-share feel to the whole forum. That's the best!



Now, for More Secrets Of Sharing, or, The Art Of Considerate Bumping. (Oh boy I could get in trouble for this...)

If someone replies to one of your shots, don't thank them. Yet. Wait a while - like when your image hits Page 2. That's the perfect time to go back and thank a few people at once. Bingo - it's not a bump, you've thanked a bunch of people all at once, and it gets you back on Page 1. Your image doesn't have to stay on Page 1, it's just nice when it gets back there once in a while.

Another tip... Did you just have a good day shooting and you have a bunch of pictures to post? Take a break before you process, go to the forum and go through the images and make some comments on other people's images. Then process and post your shots and get ready for the replies because people will notice that you've noticed them. Again, a nice ego boost and you've shared some kindness on the forum.


Did you post a nice shot and find it ignored on Page 2? You have a few options. Wait a day or two, and post it again with a better, more interesting, or humorous subject to get people's attention.

Or reply to your own post, but rather than blatantly bumping ask pointed question or two. Don't say something like "How come nobody likes this?" since it will just get ignored again because nobody likes a whiner. Instead, ask a direct question about something that you feel is important. "I blew out the background on this shot a little, but do people find it too distracting? Does it ruin the shot?" or "I thought I did a good job with this composition. Do you think I should have cropped differently?"

This may be tough to do sometimes, since you have to be honest with some self-criticism, and you open yourself up to criticism from others. But you also open yourself up to a learning experience - tough maybe, but better than being ignored and never knowing why everyone ignored your shot.


OK, so those tips come close to cheating, perhaps, if you look at it like I'm simply trying to cheat the system.... So here's the final tip: Say Something! Don't just throw out "Nice Shot" posts. They're cheap, dull, and too many get to be downright rude almost. Pick something in the shot and comment on it. Really, would you rather see a post that says "Nice duck!" or one that says "Wow, you really caught the colors on that mallard perfectly!" I'll take the insightful, meaningful, pertinent comment any day.

Don't forget to "Say Something" when you post an image, too. It is *SO* boring to see a post with 3 or 4 pics and nothing else. Talk about your shots! Identify the birds, describe the 20 minutes it took to get so close, tell us about this new place you discovered, admit that you forgot to take off the lens cap and missed a shot that was SO great.... Sometimes it's not just about the pic itself, but it can be wonderful to hear the story behind it. (A lot of you "old timers" will surely remember the crazy stories I'd post with many of my shots....)

I personally love to hear about the shot as well as see it.


Lastly: Have fun!

[Dorman]

Thanks for the feedback everyone, I'm glad you enjoyed the shots! Since #3 is the favorite, what did I do right here? :)

Dimitri, thanks for the friendly warni...oops, reminder. ;) Admittedly, I didn't read the sticky/faq on posting guidelines. Patience is a virtue I need to work on I guess.hehe