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jlambe
13th of August 2003 (Wed), 20:19
Hi and thanks in advance for the help.
Just bought a Canon A70 and tried it out at the Zoo. I was lucky enough to arrive when the keepers had camels out for a walk and took a few shots. I have been able to use the clone stamp tool to remove the keepers / shadows and the harness around the camels face. It now appears the camel was loose at the time the photo was taken. While still experimenting with both camera and Adobe I would like to remove the camel entirely and place it into a more natural scene. Possibly a picture downloaded from the net. Any ideas on how to do this. As I say I am just experimenting and the lessons I learn will be of use for future projects.
John.

Conk
13th of August 2003 (Wed), 20:54
There are a couple ways of doing this. One is from the use of a secondary software called Procreate Knockout.
The second is by tracing your image with the lasso tool or the magnetic lasso tool. Feather the edges to 1 pixel and cut out the image. Paste and clean up your edges zooming in. The second way does require time a steady hand lots of Patience and practice.
There are different ways of removing a subject but these are two of the best known to me. Everyone with photoshop experience seems to have their own technique.

jlambe
14th of August 2003 (Thu), 03:26
Thanks for the help. I will try the lasso method. Also checked the link to your pics. Love the owl photo.
John.

henkbos
14th of August 2003 (Thu), 05:50
By doing this you will obviously violate the copyright of the owner of the 'natura' environment pic'.

NOT COOL!!

jlambe
14th of August 2003 (Thu), 21:50
Not up to date on legal issues but I was under the impression that pictures available freely for download and not listed as copyright you had the freedom to use adjust etc as long as you were not using someone elses work and claiming it as yours or your use of the picture caused them loss of royalties etc. My intention was for personal use to experiment with the features available on Adobe Photoshop and not for publication or for mioney making ventures etc.
As I say legal issues are not my area of expertise so maybe someone else can shed light on this?.
John.

monkey44
17th of August 2003 (Sun), 11:18
RE: Copyright issues...

I happen to be a journalist, and rely heavily on copyright law to protect my words and images...

However, I also believe that once something is published, whether in print, video, or on the web, individuals have the right to use that image for individual purposes... that is, personal use.

So, cropping, cutting, learning with, sharing with others, manipulating the image, is okay. As long as it remains personal use. Once that image is again made public, or sold, or used in a income-producing project, even if the image is peripherally income producing (as in ad copy, including non-profit organizations), then you will violate copyright and must refrain.

jlambe
17th of August 2003 (Sun), 12:15
exactly the point I was trying to make but not worded so eloquently as you have. The pic I downloaded was for personal use as a means of learning to use software and experiment with a variety of techniques etc.
John.

msvirick
17th of August 2003 (Sun), 20:56
Coming to the orignal question.
I have tried the lasso tool but find I need a very steady
hand. Another method is more easy and as follows.
Go to Filter...then..extract. Draw a simple outline..then go to OK. Clean the image. and add it to a layer of background you like.
With little fooling you will soon be a master.