working color space for G3 in PS?

[wmskaggs]

I have read that the Adobe RGB (1998) is the best color space to use in Photoshop. However, my G3 images are embedded with the sRGB IEC61966-2.1 color space instead.

Should I leave my images with the embedded color profile or convert them to Adobe RGB (1998) when opening them in PS?

Thanks in advance,


Martin

[sdommin]

wmskaggs wrote:
I have read that the Adobe RGB (1998) is the best color space to use in Photoshop. However, my G3 images are embedded with the sRGB IEC61966-2.1 color space instead.

Should I leave my images with the embedded color profile or convert them to Adobe RGB (1998) when opening them in PS?


It's true that Adobe RGB (1998) has a wider color gamut. It's aimed at professional use (publishing, etc.).

For web work or regular printing at home, you can safely stay in the sRGB color space.

[jazcan]

O.K., I'm really dumb when it comes to this. Can someone please explain the sRGB and RGB thing?
I've heard that images should be converted to sRGB colorspace for the web. I only have photoshop LE that came with the G3.
How do you know Martin, that your images are sRGB?
I do notice that when I work with images in photoshop they look brighter and not as flat as when I post them on the web.
Is there a program other than the full version of photoshop that will allow me to convert to sRGB?

Thanks

[PacAce]

jazcan wrote:
O.K., I'm really dumb when it comes to this. Can someone please explain the sRGB and RGB thing?
I've heard that images should be converted to sRGB colorspace for the web. I only have photoshop LE that came with the G3.
How do you know Martin, that your images are sRGB?
I do notice that when I work with images in photoshop they look brighter and not as flat as when I post them on the web.
Is there a program other than the full version of photoshop that will allow me to convert to sRGB?

Thanks

Try looking in your version of photoshop and see if there's something like "Color Setting" under the "Edit" drop-down menu. It might be as simple as "no color management", "partial" , or "full color management" or as complex as allowing you to select the different types of color spaces. Since I don't have Photoshop LE installed I can't tell you which one it is but I'm sure that you have some kind of color management capability with the LE, too.

[Bean]

After messing around with all this color stuff for over a year, this is what I came up with. First of all, I don't think I have ever seen anything from Canon stating that it uses Srgb, although I believe that it does. I don't use ZoomBrowser, and maybe the Canon Software adds sRGB profile to the EXIF data. I use Breezebrowser and the pictures are not tagged. I have compared ADOBE RGB and sRGB and there is a little difference especially with the reddish colors. All the rest are very close. Knowing this I know tag all pictures with sRGB and I changed my PS working space to sRGB. Now this is where ADOBE RGB with it's larger color gamut comes in. If you are going to extensively edit the picture and change anything with the colors, you might want to convert to Adobe RGB because of the larger color gamut. I am finally at peace with sRGB. I was always wondering if I should convert, not convert etc. There are also ways to create your own color profile for the camera, and some profiles out on the web, but this is for another day.....

[PFlor]

The only benefit I know of converting to AdobeRGB is if you will be printing your images on your personal printer. But for online prints or web use it would be best to stick with the sRGB color space.

[nsxpower]

G3 captures images in sRGB, so by using Adobe RGB as you color space you will gain absolutely nothing ... to have a wider gamut the images need to be captures in Adobe RGB, which is why on 300D/10D/1D/1Ds you can select the color space you want to use. So simplify your life and use sRGB in PS.

[jazcan]

Unfortunately, In photoshop LE I don't think I have the option of sRGB. Although my images may be captured in sRGB, if I manipulate them at all in photoshop and then resave, they are saved in RGB.
If anyone knows how to get around this, let me know?
Does Photoshop elements let you save in sRGB?

Note: Even when I upload an original image from my cam to the web, it still appears different on the web than in photoshop. It always looks brighter in photoshop. If the image was originally saved by the cam as sRGB then why does it look different?

[teflon]

jazcan wrote:
Note: Even when I upload an original image from my cam to the web, it still appears different on the web than in photoshop. It always looks brighter in photoshop. If the image was originally saved by the cam as sRGB then why does it look different?


hey, what web browser do you use? It could be the way IE dithers pictures or it might be that you're displaying your picture on a white background but in PS you view on a neutral grey.. etc.. many things might be at work here.

[Bean]

teflon wrote:
jazcan wrote:
Note: Even when I upload an original image from my cam to the web, it still appears different on the web than in photoshop. It always looks brighter in photoshop. If the image was originally saved by the cam as sRGB then why does it look different?


hey, what web browser do you use? It could be the way IE dithers pictures or it might be that you're displaying your picture on a white background but in PS you view on a neutral grey.. etc.. many things might be at work here.



Windows does not display or use color profiling and as far as I know, none of the browsers do either. With PS your are looking at the picture with an sRGP profile, but on the web it is not profiled. Try choosing No Profile in PS and see if it is the same.