Adobe Photo Shop 7.0 vs 2.0

[tanneuby]

Sorry, one more question. The 10D comes with Photoshop 2.0, but I already have 7.0 on my computer. Is 7.0 better or should I use the 2.0. Or does it really even matter?

Thanks again,
Rookie

[henkbos]

Version 7 has more functionality. The other one is called Photoshop Elements.

[martcol]

Yes, you actually have Elements 2.0 with the camera. It's a cut-down version of PS 7.0 Although it's "cut-down" it's still very good and regarded as one of the best entry level editors. It misses some (lots) of the powerful stuff in PS 7 but is probably quicker to load, has a much less steep learning curve and will be slightly more intuitive.

If you're used to using PS 7.0 then you might as well stick with it.

Martin

[abwhitt]

The main difference is the price! I think here in UK, Elements will cost you about £80, whilst Photoshop, about £500. You can see why they don't give you that!
Regards
Frank

[caldgrp]

Since Elements is easier to use than PS7, it would useful to know exactly what functions Elements lacks for someone who does a moderate amount of photo editing. I believe Elements does not have the Patch and Healing tools which I have found useful but could possibly live without. But what about Layers and the very necessary Curves?

[jjc26]

The one thing that Elements 2 has that 7 doesn't have is the red eye tool (unless I missed it in 7). It's a lot easier than airbrushing the red eye out.

[PacAce]

caldgrp wrote:
Since Elements is easier to use than PS7, it would useful to know exactly what functions Elements lacks for someone who does a moderate amount of photo editing. I believe Elements does not have the Patch and Healing tools which I have found useful but could possibly live without. But what about Layers and the very necessary Curves?

I wouldn't necessarily say that Elements is easier to use than Photoshop 7 since whatever function (for the most parts) Elements has works the same in Photoshop. As someone pointed out, Elements is a small subset of Photoshop 7. If you're new to Photoshop, then Elements would be a good starting point as you will not become overwhelmed with all the features that Photoshop has.

With less functions to learn, I guess I would say that Elements is easier to learn to use than Photoshop. But it's still not as intuitive as some of the other editors I've worked.

[msvirick]

For most, one expects to do with photo prints, Elements 2 is more than enough, except if you are a professional artist. I have both of them, and still use Elements. The money I spent on PS7 was a waste

[PacAce]

msvirick wrote:
For most, one expects to do with photo prints, Elements 2 is more than enough, except if you are a professional artist. I have both of them, and still use Elements. The money I spent on PS7 was a waste

If you have PS7, it's a shame you're not using it. It has a LOT of features that Elements doesn't have and some of them your can make good use of routinely even if you're not a professional, especially if you take a lot of pictures and want to edit them. I find the most useful is the Action feature which allows you to record your routine processes and apply them with a click of a button. For example, I have an action that puts in my copyright info on the image. I have another that applies USM. When creating web pages, I have one that sizes my images to the correct size and then also creates a thumbnail from the same image. Yes, all these can be done manually but when editing a lot of images, it sure makes life a lot simpler.

[DonCoon]

Two items I wish were included in Elements are Curves and Actions but overall it's a very good package.

[dtrayers]

If you're an Elements user I highly recommend you check out Richard Lynch's book "Hidden Power of Photoshop Elements 2". What you learn from the book is worth the price alone ($28 at amazon.com), but it also comes with some addon software that adds support for actions, curves, and color separations.

Granted, the functionality it addes to Elements isn't as easy or clean as with PS7, but for the price it's well worth it, IMO.

[DonCoon]

dtrayers wrote:
If you're an Elements user I highly recommend you check out Richard Lynch's book "Hidden Power of Photoshop Elements 2". What you learn from the book is worth the price alone ($28 at amazon.com), but it also comes with some addon software that adds support for actions, curves, and color separations.

Granted, the functionality it addes to Elements isn't as easy or clean as with PS7, but for the price it's well worth it, IMO.

Agree. I've got it but........... I wish Adobe hadn't obviously crippled Elements by leaving it out.